October 11, 2004
Indiana Jones Moment
Remember that scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Dr. Jones is teaching and the one student has 'love' and 'you' on each of her eyelids? I had a similar experience today--only the 21st-century-post-MTV-way-dirtier version of that.
Comments are disabled.
Post is locked.
Querry: When a female student does something like that, what is the proper response? (keeping in mind that the Prof. is happily married and looking to stay that way)
UPDATE: Just to clarify, I am wondering how to handle the situation--NOT WONDERING HOW TO GET SOME ACTION W/O GETTING CAUGHT!!!!!! Yes, I'm sort of flattered. But I'm also embarassed, sickened, worried that when the chick forgets to take her lithium I'll find a dead rabbit on the stove, etc.
Posted by: Rusty at
05:09 PM
| Comments (40)
| Add Comment
Post contains 123 words, total size 1 kb.
1
Pass her off to your single pal Professor Chaos -- he'll know what to do with her.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at October 11, 2004 05:22 PM (23yc1)
2
Bless her - she'll be wonderful once she grows up, but don't go near her without a bargepole or gun!
You may need to punch some sense into her in the meantime but I'm sure if she has the gall to do something like this she's probably extremely attractive and spoilt, in which case she's probably too high maintenance to bother with and after a free ride, probably likely to lose her looks in 10-15 years and be no good for cooking and cleaning, ie no good for anything.
But what would I know...
Posted by: steve39 at October 11, 2004 05:37 PM (kjYIz)
3
Well, you have to ask yourself - WWID (what would Indy do)?
I say, get on the float plane and head for Mongolia, chap. No-one's found that Arch yet, that we know of, unless of course you're an Ethiopian Jew - they've got it hidden way, someplace.
If that doesn't work. Ask yourself the next best question - WWHD (What would Han do)?
He would probably share some advice he received from a friend of his and suggest you pretend she's your sister.
Posted by: Editor at October 11, 2004 05:47 PM (adpJH)
4
Let me sub.
Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer at October 11, 2004 06:20 PM (DHwcf)
5
Next time it happens, grab a fellow student to act as a witness, have the gal do it again so that student can see it, then sue her ass back to the stone age charging sexual harrassment.
Posted by: ccwbass at October 11, 2004 06:27 PM (zyEPb)
6
yeah - what the hell was the bitch thinking?
Posted by: steve39 at October 11, 2004 06:42 PM (kjYIz)
7
WWID... strangely, I once had a similar experience involving hotpants and Mayan pyramids.
Posted by: Ghost of a flea at October 11, 2004 06:52 PM (zKp0a)
8
I'd actually be super inclined to agree with some of the harder-line approaches. Not only is she engaging in behavior which, when all is said and done, could morph into something resulting in your censure or termination, but also damage your marriage. It's not necessary that you do anything at all to cause a bad outcome - she's crossed a line into territory in which her allegations and immaturity can result in accusations you'll have to defend yourself against.
Furthermore, by allowing her to continue this kind of behavior by not putting a stop to it now, you're also teaching her (or at least allowing her to continue to think) that her vagtina is a weapon that she can use to manipulate people.
Seriously, you don't need to sue her ass, but bring her up on charges and have her transferred to another section. Anything less exposes you to professional risks, and moreover you have an obligation to her as a professor to not allow her to continue this behavior.
Or, on the other hand, you could just send her over my way.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at October 11, 2004 06:52 PM (hIdkY)
9
you're also teaching her (or at least allowing her to continue to think) that her vagtina is a weapon that she can use to manipulate people.
He's not teaching her that. Women know it already.
Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer at October 11, 2004 07:17 PM (DHwcf)
10
Rusty, here's a sobering reminder of how important it is for you to be very, very careful and kill the issue before it even has a chance to get momentum. Be a hard ass if you have to.
Posted by: ccwbass at October 11, 2004 07:24 PM (mTeKZ)
11
Students have "advisors" correct? Usually Department Heads that help them with their schedules, achieving their goals, handle problems they might have? I would suggest speaking to her "advisor" or "counselor" or whatever and letting them know you are having a problem with her and have them talk to her. You could sit in on the session if you wanted to but to remain anon, go through her advisor and if that person can't straighten out the problem, see if she can be switched to another class.
You could also be your smartass self, grab a kleenex, walk up to her in class and tell her you don't appreciate this kind of stuff in your classroom and will not tolerate it and make her wipe it off right there in front of everyone.
End her or anyone else like her before they can take another step.
~Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 11, 2004 09:11 PM (D39Vm)
12
Degrading her seductivity in a non-sexual way works from what I've heard. I think Indy mentioned something to that girl about some dirt on her eyelids that she might want to wash off and she went running.
Posted by: Jeremy at October 11, 2004 09:42 PM (JYeBJ)
13
First of all...you tell a better version of the story.
Posted by: Christopher Cross at October 11, 2004 10:27 PM (0hh5k)
14
Make her yr llama-yipping luv-puppet, dump the wife & kids, trim yr chest hair, discover the world of alpha-hydroxy cosmetics for kewl-dudes-of-a-certain-age, drink yrself into an emotional Abu Ghraib, don't get invited to yr daughter's wedding, mainline Cialis
You only live once.
Posted by: jeff at October 11, 2004 11:04 PM (2GS2C)
15
Take notice of her behavior, but don't respond to it in any significant way. See how far she is willing to go. If she asks for your help after class, then you just might have to play hide the sausage with her. But be prepaired to use a condome and take notes from Kobe Bryant's recent legal side show.
Posted by: xraymike79 at October 12, 2004 01:14 AM (UhA4c)
16
xraymike79, I cannot condon your mispelling of condome.
Posted by: ccwbass at October 12, 2004 01:30 AM (W0Vmg)
17
So what was your response Dr RS?
Posted by: qpr jon at October 12, 2004 06:36 AM (Mz9dT)
18
I like Cindy's answer about the advisor and just keep in mind that she probably grew up without a father.
Posted by: Jane at October 12, 2004 07:18 AM (hoo48)
19
I have to agree with Jeff and those on the FP* circuit. Its the simple facct that most women are attracted to rough on the edges FP's. You never see the hotties of the world hanging on to the arms of pre-sandwich Jarod's or the needle neck accountant behind the hornrimmed specticles ... we see them chasing the Indy's of the world. So I think you should follow your soul: It is content and doesnt require a "llama-yipping luv-puppet" and pimp her off to the TA's (poor soul's need to see some action!), or some other poor prof. who is suffering lack of FP action. Then revel in your office chair looking over your new domain of power pimping.
*Fellow Pervet
Posted by: Salamander at October 12, 2004 07:28 AM (W2YA6)
20
No response yet. I will have her in class again tomorrow. I'm going to try the John Kerry GWOT 'plan' first. You know, ignore it in hopes that it will become less of a nuissance over time. If that doesn't work I'll follow the Kerry Iraq 'plan' and call a meeting or something with some organization or another. If that fails, I might follow the John Edwards 'plan' and sue her ass. If all that doesn't work--I'm leap-frogging the Bush doctrine and going right to Cheneyville: Nukular bombs!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 12, 2004 08:32 AM (JQjhA)
21
Rusty!!
Noooo!! That's the whole problem is that this can't be counted upon to go away the way you want it to. Strike first with formal action, simply to save your ass! If you go in now, then you've got the upper hand, and if you were heavy handed, well, so it goes.
On the other hand, if this sits and festers, there's a real, real possibility you may find yourself up on harrassment charges.
This is ABSOLUTELY not the time to cede the initative and let this loon dictate the agenda. Don't worry about making her feel bad, or creating a scene. Worry about the climate of guilty until proven innocent that goes along with much of the sexual harrassment arena.
Bring it up to her advisor, and start creating a paper trail. God forbid this go anywhere stupid, but you want to start building your documentary defense. Right. This. Instant.
If nothing lese, it will do wonders to shore up your stock with Mrs. Rusty if you clearly and vehemently take the high road on this one.
BRD
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at October 12, 2004 08:54 AM (9X/fX)
22
Hmm. So are you suggesting a tactical first strike, or maybe an Anticipatory Retaliation????
;-)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 12, 2004 08:56 AM (JQjhA)
23
Now you're reading me - preempt before there's an imminent threat. 
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at October 12, 2004 09:01 AM (9X/fX)
24
Talking about your concerns in the blog and being clear that you are not interested is a great first step and may be all that is necessary. Beyond that I wouldnÂ’t meet alone for office hours or something. Being alone with her at anytime would invite speculation. On some level this compromises your ability to teach her I imagine.
It is an incredibly unfortunate reality that situations like this have to be taken so seriously these days and not treated like the silly crushes they are. I would think your school would have a stated policy and guidelines about how you handle this. But frankly from where I sit in almost any direction you have a potential mess.
Confront her and she could get upset or angry and accuses you of not treating her professionally in class.
Ignore her and you run the risk of her accusing you of something down the road.
I wouldnÂ’t say anything to the girl but instead consult whoever counsel is for your school. (A lawyer who is a personal friend may be even better, lawyers are helpful at preventing stuff in situations like this) You arenÂ’t the first Prof to have this happen and you wonÂ’t be the last. I worry though when I watch stuff like thisÂ…. http://academicbias.com/bw101.html
Posted by: James at October 12, 2004 09:13 AM (rP4OC)
25
Yeah, I'm way in favor of the preemptive strike plan. I once dated a girl that only lasted for a week. It ended when she shared a story regarding her ability to manipulate men and her top trophy was the principal of her junior high, whom she had "seduced" and then manipulated the system to cause trouble for him. It was her plan all along. She thought it was funny and exciting.
PREEMPTIVE STRIKE, DR.!
Posted by: Editor at October 12, 2004 09:19 AM (uurD1)
26
Just a bit of advice...unless she's crazy or has an unhealthy competitive streak, almost nothing will deflate that girl's sails like a mention of how crazy about your wife and how lovely your children are - in front of the entire class. Not to rub it in, but make sure she knows. That should nip it in the bud right there. That and maybe change your policy this semester if necessary to only answer emails or something, by way of meeting with students. On account of you're so busy. Make something up, and make your boundaries clear. You have that right.
And I like the idea of talking to her advisor, leaving a paper trail, etc. Women that age can act horribly if they perceive they've been jilted.
Posted by: willow at October 12, 2004 10:17 AM (+vY9/)
27
You could also be your smartass self, grab a kleenex, walk up to her in class and tell her you don't appreciate this kind of stuff in your classroom and will not tolerate it and make her wipe it off right there in front of everyone.
Now that's even better...
Posted by: willow at October 12, 2004 10:19 AM (+vY9/)
28
Just remember Homuth's Rule: "Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are." It has worked for me, when I've had the presence of mind to heed it.
Unfortunately Homuth doesn't have a rule about how to say "no thanks" to such a person. I'm sure you'll work it out.
Posted by: Demosophist at October 12, 2004 10:30 AM (KVEF9)
29
Like I said, speak to her advisor, report it, and if she has anything anywhere, make her remove it in class, like I said above - it's the right way to handle the situation. Do Both.
~Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at October 12, 2004 12:11 PM (D39Vm)
30
Rusty....
Deal with it as though she were the North Koreans threatening to nuke you....
Preemptive First Strike.
CYA, Rusty, CYA
Just my $.02
Posted by: Reef Rockin at October 12, 2004 12:51 PM (HyUKo)
31
Oh, did I misspell condom. Guess I was thinking of that german website.....http://www.condome.de/condome/index.php
Posted by: xraymike79 at October 12, 2004 02:30 PM (UhA4c)
32
In the case of the Indiana Jones thing, I would have stopped the class and asked the girl, in front of the whole class, what she had written on her eyelids.
I don't know exactly what this girl is doing but if it is something similar then embarrassing her to hell and showing that you don't give a damn should get the message across.
Posted by: Red Devil at October 12, 2004 04:21 PM (XZCCz)
33
I would make darn sure that someone of significance knew about this so that in case this girl kicked things up a few notches so that it is known that you were not instigating or participating.
Some kind of paper trail/preemption is vital in these kind of situations.
Posted by: Steven Taylor at October 12, 2004 07:05 PM (eKc2g)
34
You are the teacher she is the student. Therefore your duty is to masterfully teach. Her action requires an appropriate reaction on your part. It means that the true nature of the offer must be appropriately determined. Joke? Honest crush? Malice?
Posted by: mathmantom at October 12, 2004 10:11 PM (SlnIr)
35
My buddy Charlie is here with me. Charlie doesn't have a computer. Says he doesn't need one of the Dern contraptions. However, Charlie being the thoughtful fellow that he is, wants to know (WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE)?
Posted by: greyrooster at October 15, 2004 09:27 PM (CBNGy)
36
I am trying to start my own blog and I'm trying to learn how this works.
My site looks like this
http://slots-guide.com
Posted by: slots at August 18, 2005 09:34 AM (lr625)
37
I found your site while searching on Yahoo for examples of blogs.
My site
http://roulettefinder.com
Posted by: roulette at August 18, 2005 09:34 AM (lr625)
38
Just wanna say hi to you after reading your blog.
Please visit me
http://crapsadvice.com
Posted by: craps at August 18, 2005 09:34 AM (lr625)
39
I found this wonderful site that helped me a lot!
I have started this website
http://bingoplaying.com
Posted by: bingo at August 18, 2005 09:34 AM (lr625)
40
Just what I was looking for. Great joy!
Here is another nice site
http://www.sportsbookworld.com
Posted by: sportsbooks at August 18, 2005 09:34 AM (lr625)
35kb generated in CPU 0.0173, elapsed 0.1045 seconds.
118 queries taking 0.096 seconds, 283 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
118 queries taking 0.096 seconds, 283 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
