Dean Esmay has his new Iraq Update. Dean really digs for the news that just is not negative enough to make the MSM. For those in Iraq who want civil war take a quick peek at DeanÂ’s graphic today. Is it really worth the cost? Ours cost us dearly. DonÂ’t doom your nation to a repeat of what we experienced.

Dean Esmay : Why can't some people just say, "you know what, now that we're in it we want to make sure we win--what can we do to actually help make that happen?" There are plenty of ways you know.

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Today is 3.14--International Pi Day. Mmmmm, pi. more...

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Today Iraq hung 13 people convicted of fighting against the new government there.

Yahoo News : The Cabinet announcement listed the name of only one of those hanged, Shukair Farid, a former policeman in the northern city of Mosul, who allegedly confessed that he had worked with Syrian foreign fighters to enlist fellow Iraqis to kill police and civilians. "The competent authorities have today carried out the death sentences of 13 terrorists," according to the statement.
It said Farid had "confessed that foreigners recruited him to spread the fear through killings and abductions." A judicial official said the death sentences were handed down in separate trials and were carried out in Baghdad. "The 13 terrorists were tried in different courts and their trials began in 2005 and ended earlier this year," an official of the Supreme Judiciary Council said, speaking on condition of anonymity due to fears of reprisal from insurgents... ...Capital punishment was suspended during the formal U.S. occupation, which ended in June 2004, and the Iraqis reinstated the penalty two months later for those found guilty of murder, endangering national security and distributing drugs, saying it was necessary to help put down the persistent insurgency.
Death sentences must be approved by the three-member presidential council headed by President Jalal Talabani, who opposes the death penalty. In the September executions and again in the Thursday hangings, Talabani refused to sign the authorization himself but gave his two vice presidents the authority.

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Yes this week we can all use a shot of good news and The Vonski delivers a boat load for us today and most every Friday. Just a sample for you: Vonski

• Soldiers from 1st Mechanized Brigade, 9th Iraqi Army Division, along with Soldiers from elements of 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment and 4th Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, conducted a combined operation to provide much needed medical care to a local Iraqi Sunni community, relieving tensions in the area while simultaneously fostering hope in a unified Iraq.
Approximately 85 local civilians showed up for free medical treatment. They formed a single line and were ushered forward to the waiting medical personnel. Two medical professionals saw the customers with the support of several medics.

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1 Good news from Iraq? next you'll tell us about a Unicorn sighting!

Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 12:05 PM (CcXvt)

2 No but I thought I hit some guys dog the other day. Turned around to go back and tell him. Got there and...it was the fox!!! Actually seen several foxes and coyotes around they are coming back around my neck of the woods. See a few more every year. Parvo really hit em hard a few years back. One fox has a den right across the field from my. She a purty little thing. I'd like a pup can I get you to reach in there and get me one?

Posted by: Howie at March 03, 2006 12:08 PM (D3+20)

3 yeah, but it's "Bush" who's stifling our liberties, bwahaha!

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 03, 2006 12:13 PM (8e/V4)

4 I'd like a pup can I get you to reach in there and get me one? What do you think we have Greenpeace / PETA for? They're useful for attempting to protect animals who's sole nature is to kill, or maim them. Like that "Grizzly Adams" guy they made a movie out of, who's remains were fished out of a steaming pile of Bear feces and placed in a ziplock bag. He was "protecting" them.

Posted by: dave at March 03, 2006 12:26 PM (CcXvt)

5 Thanks for the link, Howie! Dave, your last comment reminded me of a joke I saw. The Pope took a couple of days off to visit Alaska. He was cruising along in the Pope Mobile when there was a frantic commotion just at the edge of the woods. A helpless Democrat, wearing sandals, shorts, a "Save the Whales" / "Bush Lied" T-shirt and a tree hugger hat, was screaming while struggling frantically, thrashing around trying to free himself from the jaws of a 10 foot grizzly. As the Pope watched horrified, a group of Republican loggers came racing up. One quickly fired a 44 magnum into the bear's chest. The other two reached up and pulled the bleeding semiconscious Democrat from the bear's grasp. Then using long clubs, the three loggers finished off the bear and two of them threw it onto the bed of their truck while the other tenderly placed the injured Democrat in the back seat. As they prepared to leave, the Pope summoned them to come over. "I give you my blessing for your brave actions!" he told them. "I heard there was a bitter hatred between Republican loggers and Democratic environmental activists, but now I've seen with my own eyes that this is not true." As the Pope drove off, one of the loggers asked his buddies "Who was that guy?" "It was the Pope", another replied, "He's in direct contact with God and has access to all God's wisdom." "Well," the logger said, "he may have access to all God's wisdom but he sure doesn't know anything about bear hunting!" "By the way, is the bait holding up or do we need to go back to town and grab another one?"

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6 No I'm just afraid the little vixen will be in there and eat my arm off.

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Operation Enduring Service helps convert obsolete military vessels into disaster response ships. Details here and here.

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Following up on that last bad news post, here's a great source for good news about our military in general.

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When Saudi security forces learned the location of the al-Qaeda cell that perpertrated last weeks attempted bombing of oil facilities, the order was given and carried out.

Herald Sun News : Security sources said that according to their information the suspects holed up in the Al-Yarmuk quarter of Riyadh, who battled police for an hour after being surrounded in the early morning, were linked to the Abqaiq attack.
"Five armed wanted men were killed today," a police officer said. "Large quantities of arms and explosives as well as material destined to prepare car bombs have been seized."
The suspects "used grenades in a bid to flee but they were prevented in doing so. The clashes are over. The (suspects') lair was assaulted and we killed those we found there".

Al-Zaqueery’s “Buddy” caught too.

Yahoo News : Iraqiya named the man as Abu Farouq and said he was captured with five others in the Sunni insurgent stronghold of Ramadi, west of the capital.
It said Abu Farouq al-Suri, previously unknown to the media, was captured by the Wolf Brigade, one of several counter-insurgency units operating within the Shi'ite-run Interior Ministry but accused by Sunnis of targeting civilians in their community.

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A Few days ago Mohammed Shtawi swore he would never be caught and prosecuted for his terrorist activity against Israel. He was just as right then as he is dead now.

Yahoo News : One of those killed Thursday was identified as Mohammed Shtawi, a top Al Aqsa fugitive. On Wednesday, Shtawi told an AP reporter that earlier in the day soldiers surrounded his hideout for five hours, but he and several friends slipped away. "They will never catch me," he said at the time.

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Normally, Derbyshire is a tad glum for me, but I can't disagree with this.

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See the weekly roundup by Vonski here.

Rick : What with all the focus being spent on the Vice President accidentally shooting someone, it is no wonder the mainstream media chose not to write about all of the good that is happening over in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh, I nearly forgot, they never write about any positive coming from that region

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Remember that scene in Ghostbusters, where the sexcretary hits the alarm, stands up, and yells "We got one!!!"

Rusty, I think I have just found something even more elusive than a ghost. More elusive than our shared dream of a fatwa...

...A true moderate Muslim.

That is why my first allegiance is to this country. Without its freedoms and protections, my faith would be something much smaller. That is also why my dream has always been one of a pluralistic, democratic society where all religions and people can feel welcome. Islamists, from the radical to the moderate, would argue that in their dream the will of the majority and the Islamic state become one. What instilled my intense love for the United States from a young age was that our democracy has a Bill of Rights that upholds minorities, prevents oppression by the majority, and keeps religious scripture out of government — the antithesis of Islamism.

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Michelle Malkin has a list of 25 ways to ignore Joel Stein and support our troops.

All of them are worthy, and I wholeheartedly support her effort.

So I'll give you Number 26. If you really, really want to support our troops, and you are of the proper age, then by all means, sign up and join them.

No, I'm not making some sort of "chickenhawk" argument here. I do not look down on people who haven't enlisted. It's none of my business how you plan your life. Not only that, the home front is every bit as important to the success of this war as the fighting fronts.

No big deal, really, just something to consider.

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Sunni insurgent groups join together to run Al-Qaeda out of Anbar Province in Iraq. Via The Australian News :

"There was a meeting right after the bombings," one Ramadi resident said, speaking anonymously for fear of reprisals.
"Tribal leaders and political figures gathered to form the Anbar Revolutionaries to fight al-Qa'ida in Anbar and force them to leave the province.
"Since then, there has been all-out war between them."

Last week, three local Islamist groups around Ramadi - the 1920 Brigades, the Mujaheddin Army and the Islamic Movement for Iraq's Mujaheddin - met to distance themselves from their fellow Islamists in al-Qa'ida.

The statement condemned "armed operations which target innocents" and affirmed "a halt to co-operation with al-Qa'ida".
In a further sign of the rifts emerging within Iraq's insurgency, Zarqawi has also stepped aside as the head of a new council of radical groups in favour of an Iraqi, according to a posting on a website used by al-Qa'ida.

Sing it with me! GTFO GTFO GTFO my province Beotch!

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Various news sources report that al Qaeda's #1 man Ayman al-Zawahiri, is dead. One more Islamofascist prick dead. Dead. DEAD! I'd say it's definitely true, except I don't want to jinx it (knock on lots of wood).

Since Osama bin Laden is either dead, out of the loop in a cave, or meditating in Africa, this would be the most important al Qaeda kill to date.

To quote Ice Cube, today was a good day. Indeed.

Red at Scared Monkeys cautions that these reports have proven false in the past. True. But I have a good feeling about this one (fingers crossed).

UPDATE: AL Jazeera Zawahiri is "VICTIM" of U.S. attacks. Reports 30 dead, claim U.S. military denying involvement.

ABC News:

A U.S. airstrike in Pakistan targeted al Qaeda's No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri but it was unclear if he had been killed, CNN quoted U.S. sources as saying on Friday.

Ayman al-Zawahiri, the No. 2 figure in al-Qaida, was the target of a CIA-ordered strike that killed at least 17 people in Pakistan, according to broadcast reports.

At this time, it is unclear whether al-Zawahiri is among the dead in a remote tribal village named Damadola along the border with Afghanistan

U.S. officials told NBC News on Friday that American airstrikes in Pakistan overnight Thursday were aimed at the No. 2 man in the al-Qaida terror organization — Ayman al-Zawahri.

One official said intelligence indicated a strong possibility that Zawahri was in the Pakistani village at the time of the airstrike, but there is no confirmation that he was killed.

Pakistani officials say U.S. aircraft, apparently CIA Predator drones, fired as many as 10 missiles at the residential compound.

A CIA airstrike on a building in Pakistan may have killed Osama bin Laden's most-trusted aide, sources said.

The building where Ayman al-Zawahiri was thought to be is in Damadola, a small village near the Afghan border.

There has been no confirmation that al-Zawahiri was killed in the attack Friday. However, sources say there was intelligence suggesting he was in the building at the time of the strike.

Pakistani officials were at the scene of the strike, trying to determine if Al-Zawahiri was killed.

A doctor in the area told The Associated Press that at least 17 people were killed in the attack, but other witnesses at the scene said the death toll was higher.

Pakistan's The News newspaper said the dead had been buried after a mass funeral led by Maulana Faqir Muhammad, a cleric wanted for giving shelter to suspected al Qaeda members.

UPDATE: Daily IntelBriefing reminds us that an F-16 fighter wing was just dispatched to the area. Reports seem to speculate that this was a CIA hit, using a drone, but if 10 bombs were dropped that doesn't seem likely. See our Jan. 10th post Military Readying for Air Strikes in *undisclosed* Southwest Asian Country Update within an update via his moongodishness' Link Mecca. NY Times (emphasis mine):

"I was awakened from deep slumber by the noise of the drone and then, together with thousands others who too had been woken up by the plane's noise, saw jets targeting the area," he said. [ie, it wasn't the drones that fired the missiles if this can be believed] "One plane circled the area and dropped illuminating flares and the other planes fired missiles. There were loud explosions."

He said the planes' [plural] targets were three houses, all belonging to jewelry dealers. "The houses have been razed to the ground," said Mr. Rashid, who said he had visited the scene. "There is nothing left. Pieces of the missiles are scattered all around. The impact of the explosions have been huge. Everything has been blackened in a 100-meter radius."

REACTIONS

Lord Blogfather: Pushing Up Daisies?

Jawa sith apprentices agree, Keep your fingers crossed.

Paduan learner says: Keep your fingers crossed.

Yipes! from Vinnie: Associatedantiamerican Press in Full Denial mode, therefore, increasing the likelihood that it may be true.

Little baby jawas: good news if true

Satan, meet thy next bitch. (via Vinnie)

More Zawahiri information that you can shake a camel's turd at. (via Malkin)

Lord, please!!!

I hope that al-Zawahari and other al Qaeda members are now finding out that the 72 virgins are instead 72 fat sows with no teeth, bad halitosis, and a strong resemblance to the offspring of Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan or Ted Kennedy and Barbara Streisand. Heh.

I hate to see that women and children were killed and if there is to be a justification for their tragic deaths, it is that Zawahiri met his death as well. Sad, but true.

Even if we missed him, we got others

Has he gone to join the martyr farm?

Hopefully he's dead this time, permanently!

GOOD - letÂ’s hope it is al-Zawahiri

Personally IÂ’m not going to celebrate until DNA testing comes back positive

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease let it be true.

God I hope we got him... and find out what happened to Ben Laden too!!!!!!!!!

al-Kaboomiri

Do cats go to hell with Zawahiri?

these guys have a way of not being quite as dead as we think they are

If we got him, this hurts. Hurts bad.

The world should be so lucky on this Friday 13th as to finally nail this dog of dogs

even if it is a false alarm, the idea of Ayman spread thinly over a substantial surface area is a pleasing one indeed

It always struck us as odd, that people like Ayman al-Zawahiri encouraged others to become martyrs, but they themselves were in never a great hurry, often hiding among innocents.

If true, Yipee! If not, it's a matter of time.

rot in hell you son of a bitch

Tin foil patrol: US intelligence people may have decided that Zawahiri has been making too much noise and that starting a rumor that he may have been killed will hurt his charisma at least in the short term.

"it's time to bring them home." --John Murtha

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1 Dang, thought I had the JR scoop on this. I even checked to see if anyone had posted before I did. Oh well, that's the way the blogosphere bounces.

Posted by: Vinnie at January 13, 2006 07:33 PM (Kr6/f)

2 Going by our recent track record of targeted killings like this, I have serious doubts that we got him...

Posted by: Ariya at January 13, 2006 07:46 PM (uxW3N)

3 Shut up, Ariya, it's been years since I had a good bottle of Perrier Jouet. So you just shut UP! ;-)

Posted by: Vinnie at January 13, 2006 07:47 PM (Kr6/f)

4 Maybe they got Dean at the same time

Posted by: Filthy at January 13, 2006 07:48 PM (uxn8Q)

5 Hope I can be first in line to piss on his grave.

Posted by: greyrooster at January 13, 2006 07:58 PM (AWtJU)

6 I just reported the same on my blog. Let's keep our fingers crossed Bush has kept his promise to bring those responsible for Sept. 11th to justice, dead or alive. If it's true, it's a good day to be American, regardless of political affiliation.

Posted by: Mad Man at January 13, 2006 08:01 PM (K6g1B)

7 Sounds good - wait and see. Doubt if site is accessible and would require being secured first. Body recovery/identification is a bitch - especially if its grounded up chop meat - ID is a bitch - DNA, Dental and Medical records, fingerprints are great - if this was Las Vegas ala CSI - but its not - its bumfuck nowhere and we don't exactly have these records on all the 6 billion people on this planet. Nay sayers like Ariya want a recognizable body & documentated proof beyond a shadow of a doubt - they are either being deliberately cute or totally ignorant of the reality on the ground in a distant combat zone. Ignore him - if proof available it will be found - otherwise wait for videos and recordings and analyse them for authenticity and time lag. How many years did it take to prove Hitler was actually dead?

Posted by: hondo at January 13, 2006 08:05 PM (3aakz)

8 That big old maggot infested bump in the middle of his forehead made for a whopping good target!!!

Posted by: Wendy at January 13, 2006 08:14 PM (NE9xf)

9 Fiday 13th -- Unluck day fo Ben Ladin and Al-Zawahiri deep-cover reports out of Pakastan suggest both Ben Ladin and Al-Zawahiri killed on Friday - 13 Jan 2006. break a mirro for me, too!! cc

Posted by: Marine 'til I die at January 13, 2006 08:21 PM (JV1Qy)

10 Remember, he is the bad guy. No whining from liberals about due process, his feelings, his family, his disability, his whatever, or why we need to get to the root cause of his problem. He and his demented philosophy are and were just as corrupt as Joseph Stalin, Marx, Japs in WW II, Hitler, Mousolini, et al. One more, UBL !

Posted by: Chief RZ at January 13, 2006 09:12 PM (Fqid7)

11 Just be dead. I guess this makes pervert Zarqawi #1 unless UBL jumps up from limbo. One down. I was wathing the airstrike story today there was a lot of whining at fist that we crossed to border & hit a house. I was wondering what it was. Good deal.

Posted by: Howie at January 13, 2006 09:21 PM (D3+20)

12 Oh, they'll whine. And whine and whine. Ted Kennedy the girl murderer and Jessie Jackson, the thief will both claim Bush is a bad guy for giving us our revenge. Only the she monster Clinton bitch will keep her stupid mouth shut. That is if it's not allready full of you know what.

Posted by: greyrooster at January 13, 2006 09:24 PM (AWtJU)

13 Hahaha.. it'll be pretty funny if it's true. Al Qaeda's main man reduced to a dirty village in the middle of bfe, and then taken out by CIA aircraft. Score!

Posted by: MidnightSun at January 13, 2006 09:58 PM (Rs5sH)

14 I'd be happier with Kennedy.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 13, 2006 10:19 PM (0yYS2)

15 I want Zawahiri's rifle. What is all that stuff on the forearm? A grenade launcher, perhaps.

Posted by: jesusland joe at January 13, 2006 11:37 PM (rUyw4)

16 Never mind, people, Zawahiri was just seen pumping gas into his pink cadillac at a truck stop outside of Glenwood, IA. See the Weekly World News for updates.

Posted by: Vinnie at January 13, 2006 11:46 PM (Kr6/f)

17 I wish but I doubt he was there. Ayman is unfortunately alive and well. I bet Ayman is laughing at us from his hideout.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 14, 2006 07:51 AM (5E0ex)

18 False alarm, folks. The self-loathing Libs got their wish. He's not dead.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 14, 2006 11:24 AM (8e/V4)

19 Yes, unfortuantely the psychopath is still alive. I knew all along he was.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 14, 2006 12:12 PM (5E0ex)

20 No zawahiri still alive, cia had "bad intelligence" yet again, but hey not all is lost the US military incinerated up to 30 innocents, including women and children, i am sure their relatives will be ok with this and not join the "terrorists". good job fighting terror indeed. ya cant just kill people and figure they are backwards because they cannot understand your oppulence...Bush and his supporters are only making the situation worse. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 12:23 PM (X4Dyg)

21 LOL, Maxmimus is going to love fucking with you. While I am a moderate and support Bush. He could do a better job catching Osama, Ayman and Zarqawi. This blast did kill a lot of civilians. And Ayman is laughing at us. This wouldn't have happened if Clinton had killed Osama when he had the chance.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 14, 2006 02:16 PM (5E0ex)

22 I thought one of the only countries that had Zawahiri's dental records would have been Egypt, where he was incarcerated as a dissident (I believe shortly after the assassination on the Egyptian President.) unless those have already fallen into the hands of the CIA I wonder how soon the CIA could tell his body was not amongst the dead? Do we have his DNA on file? it might be to early to be making an assumption he is not dead. It is unsurprising that women and children are amongst the dead, their culture much like our own, keeps their family close. It is however unlikely Zawahiri would have done this, because he already had one family members killed in a bombing of his residence. Greenlighting a drone strike like this, by the CIA is bad practice these guys are notoriously unreliable, as are their sources. This sort of action should be done by CIA special operations [CSO's] who could engage and ensure civilian casualties are at a minimum. Mistakes in intelligence is only going to make sure Pakistan no longer authorizes any action in it's boarders, and we already have a strained relationship with them as it is. Ernie, I'm glad you are not disappointed he is dead or anything. I'm sure if he was confirmed you would have been here posting joyously? I didn't think so.

Posted by: dave at January 14, 2006 03:04 PM (CcXvt)

23 He is disappointed. He's just upset innocent civilians died. Collateral damage is unavoidable in war. I wish those civilians didn't die but it happened. I never thought Zawahiri was dead. The bastard is too smart. We will never get him. I hate the fact he got away. He's as slippery as an eel.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 14, 2006 04:07 PM (5E0ex)

24 again you fail to notice how a drone aircraft firing on civilians is a WAR CRIME. The USA, had it been anyone else doing this, would call this a WAR CRIME. But agfain, the tactical strategies of the Bush admin are counterproductive and is making the terrorist problem much worse. Every one of these civilians killed now has very angry reltaives hell bent on martyrdom. now about "being disappointed" or not about zawahiri means nothing to me. Al Queada is not a hierarchical centralized unit that runs everything, but an ideology. Kill zawahiri wont mean much about stopping terrorism. Alos, i know in the SAfe ole USA i am much more likely to be killed by a teenage girl talking on the cell phone while driving or being murdered by a handgun from a good american citizen (about 17,000 per year i might add) rather than an agent of osama. so in short i dont quiver in fear all day long as Bush wants us too, sorry, but statistics and probabilities do matter. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 04:11 PM (X4Dyg)

25 george ramos, would you accept your argument if it was put forth from al queada regarding 911 "oh well, collateral damage happens...." ididnt think so. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 04:13 PM (X4Dyg)

26 If the CIA is inept, as they surely are, then we have none other than Dhimmi Carter and Bubba Klintoon to blame, as they were the ones who systematically gutted the CIA, and both should be shot. Hell, I'd pay any price to be on the trigger for either of them.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 14, 2006 04:33 PM (0yYS2)

27 again you fail to notice how a drone aircraft firing on civilians is a WAR CRIME. Please show me the text of which you speak, as far as I know it is only a war crime when civilians are specifically targetted directly -- knowingly. please only quote convention articles not any DU interpretations etc. I'll be glad to read, and thus educate myself if I have made a misunderstanding. Thanks!

Posted by: dave at January 14, 2006 04:48 PM (CcXvt)

28 Great post.... I sure the heck hope we got him along with some other top MUJA...... AubreyJ.........

Posted by: AubreyJ at January 14, 2006 05:26 PM (84Xxa)

29 Well: Now U.S citizens and U.S have to hunker down because this will bring a mayor hit, as a retaliation, what a sad way of life.

Posted by: Dan at January 14, 2006 05:31 PM (Tfvvl)

30 dave, you really think the US KNEW that there werent civilians in that group of "terrorists" they fired at, or they didnt care? reality will help you. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 06:09 PM (X4Dyg)

31 Is that your way of saying you know of no such conventions? Bravo. See ernie, I gave you a chance to prove your point, and do so factually. I see you cannot. now head back over to DailyKos, chicken little.

Posted by: dave at January 14, 2006 07:14 PM (CcXvt)

32 read the geneva conventions dave. but no, this isnt my way of saying that killing civilians is a war crime, it is saying that the US military doesnt care. this is obvious. and yes your trite little arguments have led to the deaths of 100,000 iraqis 2200 US soldiers and cost the USA 1 trillion dollars (stiglitz) Take that to the bank. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 09:10 PM (X4Dyg)

33 and the very fact i have to mention that killing civilians, without care, is at the very least unethical and you cannot "get it" says much about you. do you need a piece of paper to say killing is wrong? i kno, i know, in your violent and trite littel world of inadequacy killing is a part of duty. sorry you have no soul...and we wonder why america is fucked. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 14, 2006 09:12 PM (X4Dyg)

34 >>>and the very fact i have to mention that killing civilians, without care, is at the very least unethical ernie. Was it unethical that civilians were killed when we assaulted Fortress Europe and drove the Nazis back to Berlin? Lots of civies killed. Tons of them. They died by the boatload. Unethical? No? I guess that pretty much shoots your tired Leftwing memes to hell.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 14, 2006 09:59 PM (8e/V4)

35 Poor Ernie, now he has to fall back to personal attacks because he cannot back up his rhetoric. Carlos: Hitler is ernie's idle. There isn't a dictator he wouldn't support over America. Ernie: Show me specific section(s) of the Geneva convention or Hague convention that states that killing civilians that were not the intended victim, is a war crime? This isn't DU if you're going to say it, back it up.

Posted by: dave at January 14, 2006 11:31 PM (CcXvt)

36 >>>sorry you have no soul Sorry you have no brain. Honest....you have no brain.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at January 15, 2006 01:48 AM (8e/V4)

37 dave, you just dont get it. its not about law, its about your honor. obviously this concept escapes you. Now, if you need an intl agreement to tell you that collateral damage is wrong then we have nothing else to talk about. Sadly, given death threats to my life on this blog, i have to report it because i ahve a feeling thsoe making the threats are real dangers to their communities (i think they are committing violent crimes, they sound insane). so i have to turn in this blog for direct threats over the net, sorry didnt want to, but i have to, ITS MY PATRIOTIC DUTY. improblimus maximus needs to be checked on i have a feeling with his temperment he is committing crimes near his home. so anyway dave, i wont be back. sorry the fun and debate had to end, but when people start opening perosnal threats of death over the net...that is a crime...and i m not going to worry about addressing the exact stature for that, i will allow the appropriate authorities in court deternmine that. bye all, thanks for the debate while it lasted. ernie

Posted by: ernie at January 15, 2006 04:09 AM (X4Dyg)

38 Al Qaeda is not a legitimate army. They simply love killing Americans and any other person who collaborates with them.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 15, 2006 08:44 AM (5E0ex)

39 Al Qaeda is not a legitimate army. They simply love killing Americans and any other person who collaborates with them. They don't care about innocent people dying.

Posted by: George Ramos at January 15, 2006 08:45 AM (5E0ex)

40 No Ernie, You don't get it. You didn't say "It's a crime against humanity" or "civilian casualties make the baby Jesus cry" you said it was a "war crime" [with emphasis I might add.] That is a very specific charge, that pertains to international law, and the American people. Now you're magically saying it's about "honor", before it was about me being unhuman -- I think if you read my first thread, I am against air strikes, and drones ran by the CIA in particular because of their unreliable nature and the threat to civilians. Next time when you charge the Government with a "WAR Crime" you'll have the balls to follow it through, and quote an article -- however I feel it will be the first time you've ever read either articles on the ethics of War, just to attempt to tarnish America -- I believe you called yourself a Patriot once? [A Marine first?] both sound hollow now.

Posted by: dave at January 15, 2006 09:11 AM (CcXvt)

41 >>>you said it was a "war crime" [with emphasis I might add.] Words/terms have no meaning to the Left. They are used purely to further their agenda, even if it means wringing every last drop of truth from those words. Look how they have taken words/terms that we all once agreed upon and turned those words on their head so that they have become all but useless-- like "fascism", "nazi", "torture", "gulag", "war crimes", "hate", "tolerance", "extremist", etc., and the list is growing.

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Is bin Laden dead? I've no idea. Let us pray that this time the reports turn out to be true. Michael Ladeen reports over at NRO (hat tip: Ron):

And, according to Iranians I trust, Osama bin Laden finally departed this world in mid-December. The al Qaeda leader died of kidney failure and was buried in Iran, where he had spent most of his time since the destruction of al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The Iranians who reported this note that this year's message in conjunction with the Muslim Haj came from his number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri, for the first time.

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Somewhere, an ABC News executive is weeping quietly. UN flags at mainstream media headquarters are flying at half-staff, and an Apple falls in the Gray Lady's orchard (profit yes, prophet no). There is no joy in Leftville, for the numbers don't pan out.

And now, a few results from the recent ABC News poll taken in Afghanistan [emphasis added]:

77 percent of Afghans say their country is headed in the right direction — compared with 30 percent in the vastly better-off United States. Ninety-one percent prefer the current Afghan government to the Taliban regime, and 87 percent call the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban good for their country. Osama bin Laden, for his part, is as unpopular as the Taliban; nine in 10 view him unfavorably.

Eighty-three percent of Afghans express a favorable opinion of the United States

Eighty-three percent of Afghans express a favorable opinion of the United States overall, similar to the 87 percent who call the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban a good thing.

85 percent of Afghans say living conditions there are better now than they were under the Taliban. Eighty percent cite improved freedom to express political views. And 75 percent say their security from crime and violence has improved as well. After decades of oppression and war, many Afghans see a better life.

Nine in 10 Afghans support girls' education and women voting, three-quarters support women holding jobs and two-thirds support women holding government office — remarkable in a country where the Taliban so thoroughly repressed such rights.

Eighty-three percent rate their overall living conditions positively, and ratings are nearly as high both for local schools and the availability of food. Just more than seven in 10 likewise say their security from crime and violence is good.

Also posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.

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Yes my pet name for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi but I’m not the only one who wants him dead now. Today there were massive demonstrations in Jordan calling for Mr Zaqueery to quote “Burn in Hell”. Now there is one group of chanting protesters I can agree with. Early in the year it was apparent after the bombings in Egypt that Al-Qaeda in Iraq’s methods caused political problems for them. Mr. Zaqueery must have a short memory for now he has bombed Jordan. Moslems even those who sympathize with the cause or the root cause can no longer deny the pure evil of the Al-Qaeda doctrine. Even Palestine whom Al-Qaeda claims to be helping finds itself today a victim of the terrorists who kill in a cowardly random fashion. Coupled with protests in Morocco last week it is now apparent that the war on terror will be won. Both our pressure and the pure evil of their tactics have put the writing on the wall. The harder they try the more people hate them including peoples all over the Middle East. The world is shrinking every day for Al-Qaeda soon they will be history.

Palestinians murdered by Al-Qaeda this week CNN:

Officials from other governments, however, were among the dead. Four Palestinians, including Maj. Gen. Bashir Nafeh, head of Palestinian military intelligence, died in the blast at the Grand Hyatt, said chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat. Also killed was Col. Abed Allun; Jihad Fattouh, the brother of the Palestinian parliament speaker; and Mosab Khoma, Erakat said. The four were on their way back from Cairo, Egypt, he said, adding his condemnation of the attacks.

Way to go moron yeah you Zaqueery you rat bastard son of a thousand dogs.

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He saved the Indonesians the trouble and as far as I know the 27 raisins donÂ’t count when you blow yourself up to avoid capture. Nope no raisins for you Mr Azahari Husin maybe if you had been Japanese and used Saki and a sword, looser!!!! Mr. Husin has been pursued relentlessly by Indonesian police and had been quite slippery barely escaping several times. Today his luck ran out.

CNN: The Australian-educated Azahari is accused of being a mastermind behind the deadly Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005Â… Â… Azahari Husin, a Malaysian in his late 40s, was believed to be the bomb expert for the Islamic terror network Jemaah Islamiyah, and to have written its bomb manual.

Dead manÂ’s profile on TKB but his business has been taken care of.

Filthy seems pleased.

When informed of the passing of Mr. Husin my Aussie cube mate said, “Cool!”

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1 Shouldn't that be 'Another one turns to dust'?

Posted by: CUS at November 10, 2005 12:18 PM (bbXZq)

2 Oh, I see his picture now, what a nerd! You're right, no raisins for him. Perhaps brimstone, but no raisins.

Posted by: thirdee at November 10, 2005 12:24 PM (ZK4ZU)

3 Somewhere in hell: "Dammit Abdul! I told you that wasn't the light switch! That's the last time I hire family."

Posted by: Graeme at November 10, 2005 12:50 PM (B1/IN)

4 "The Australian-educated Azahari..." It looks like multiculturalism is paying off quite nicely for the Australians. And the French. And the Belgians. And the Germans. And the Danes. And the Swedes. And... uh, let's see... ummm, oh yeah! The Americans!

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 10, 2005 01:11 PM (0yYS2)

5 I don't get it! 72 virgins? I mean .. what's the big deal 'bout virgins? No experience - over-rated .. we've all been 18 once - been there - done that - so what! nothing particularly special as I recall. and 72 of them? Now that's pure ego and stupidity! And you can only be a virgin once! What are we talking about here - 72 badda bings .. then what? Even at one badda a day that's a relatively short time in paradise! Hey Mo! Do the math! Now if it was a half dozen Dallas Cheerleaders and an eternity on a beach in Mexico with an endless supply of Coronas - maybe I would understand.

Posted by: hondo at November 10, 2005 02:36 PM (Jvmry)

6 It's raining men Hallelujah it's raining men, Amen It's raining men Hallelujah it's raining men, Amen

Posted by: dave at November 10, 2005 03:21 PM (CcXvt)

7 I guess they're into virgins because a girl who has never seen a naked man will be less likely to laugh.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 10, 2005 03:55 PM (0yYS2)

8 A nerd such as this guy would need to kill himself to find satisfaction, as his love has probably only been the bestial or inflatable kind....which reminds me of a joke I heard today... A guy walks into a sex shop and asks for a blow up doll. The shopkeeper asks him if he would like a Christian one or a muslim one. "What's the difference?" asks the guy. The shopkeeper replies "You will need to blow the christian one up but the muslim one blows itself up."

Posted by: Jester at November 10, 2005 04:54 PM (QKZX5)

9 HA!

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 10, 2005 05:48 PM (0yYS2)

10 This could also potentially be a bad thing. It's great that another one bites the dusts, but by this I mean that we knew who this guy was and pretty well had him contained from conducting/planning another attack as big as Bali. The way these terrorist cells and networks work is that there are anywhere from 2-5 terrorist "waiting in teh wings" to take over said dead guys job. It works the same way in Iraq and Afghanistan. The difference between Iraq/Afghanistan and Indonesia is that we have the intelligence assets to identify the next guy in Iraq/Afghanistan, the Indonesians are quite as quick about identifying the next would be Azahari. Again, cheers to another less than contributing human being ending his life, but there are more out there and we know less now of who they are...

Posted by: Wild Bill at November 11, 2005 07:55 PM (9IXq3)

11 Bill, by your logic, we should leave them all alone and just watch them as they go about their business. When we kill one "mastermind", that means that a second stringer has to take his place. Then a third stringer, then a fourth, et cetera ad infinitum, until they run out of "masterminds". It looks already like they've used up their best and brightest, and I use the terms loosely, and are relying on idiots like Zaqueery, who has only managed to turn more muslims against him than to him. We are winning, and one of the ways we are doing so is by killing the enemy. Duh.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 12, 2005 09:20 PM (0yYS2)

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Al QaedaÂ’s recent kidnapping and threat to Murder two Morroccan hostages has resulted in massive protests in Morocco. Gateway Pundit has the story.

Thousands marched through Morocco's biggest city on Sunday to protest Al-Qaeda's decision to kill two Moroccan hostages in Iraq. Holding banners and chanting "Muslims are brothers. A Muslim does not kill his brother" and "Yes to freedom, No to terrorism and barbarity,"

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