March 21, 2005
Bush Signs Schiavo Bill, Case Goes to Federal Court (UPDATED)
President Bush has signed a bill aimed at keeping Terri Schiavo alive. Bush signed the Bill at 1:11 a.m. after an extraordinary all night session of Congress. The bill gives federal jurisdiction in the case by Terri's parents to keep her alive.
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Meanwhile, how is this further degenerating her condition? No food OR water for three days...
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 21, 2005 09:04 AM (x+5JB)
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What I want to know is why are we spending Federal dollars on a clear cut Florida Issue. The U.S. Congress (House and Senate) I believe are clearly out of line. The only good thing I can see about this going to the Federal level, is it makes the lazy bourgeois
Bush get off his duff and get back to work.
Posted by: Butch at March 21, 2005 11:00 AM (Gqhi9)
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Now we have a good reason to ask President Bush to step down.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 21, 2005 11:04 AM (PEKrh)
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Enough already. There are so many other things that are more important. Where are the Congress members to make sure to protect innocent children from predators? Where is Congress when it comes to giving our soldiers the best that money can buy to protect themselves? Terri Schiavo case has been in court for years and now all of a sudden it is of interest to them? What's wrong with this picture? This case should be a state issue and not a national issue. Congress is playing politics with this issue. Shame on them.
Posted by: GC at March 21, 2005 12:00 PM (m1Vsj)
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I thought how satisfying it would be to have control over the feeding tube of Barney Frank and that cold bitch Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
After giving it more thought, I realized I'd give in and feed them after a couple of hours. I would be overcome by guilt and my personal beliefs would prevent me from doing any real harm.
Well it's over 3 days now. Those two are on thier 2nd meal of the day while Terri is starving in pain.
Liberals use the word "HATE" as a substitute for arguement. I can think of no more approiate word to describe their actions in this tragedy.
Posted by: Brad at March 21, 2005 12:15 PM (NzgK/)
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Rusty, I take issue with several of your points.
First of all, I'd be pleased if you would identify for me any
instance in which Congress has passed a law that grants to a single individual standing to sue in federal court that was not included in 28 U.S.C.1251 et seq (let alone to an individual who has no legally recognized right to do so on behalf of a mentally incompetent person who has a legal guardian).
Second, while I am not inclined to agree with Professor Tribe (on practically anything), I am willing to recognize (at least) that portion of Constitutional precedent that includes among an individual's rights "the right to be left alone." I do not believe it is irrational for an individual to prefer not to be kept alive under certain circumstances. That's why living will legislation exists -- so that such "irrational" decisions should be honored. I do not equate those instances with this one, but you do recognize that Ms. Schiavo has a court appointed guardian (the "other person") who (presumably) has her best wishes in mind.
Finally, I disagree with you that Congress's move here is simply "the normal functioning of checks and balances."
What Congress has done is, in this special circumstance, passed a federal law that grants two people standing who, under federal law and Florida law (and probably every other state law in the country) do not have that right.
This is a classic "means - end" analysis. Those who ardently support the end -- the protection of Terry Schiavo's status as a living being -- support the means being utliized to (attempt to) do that.
I do not, because I am not one to justify the means being used.
If Florida law does not provide the parents of a mentally disabled emancipated adult with standing to seek emergency judicial relief that is contrary to the wishes of the adult's court-appointed guardian, then the Florida legislature has all the power necessary to pass its own statute.
And if the U. S. Congress makes a practice of statutorily granting individual people standing in such "special circumstances," I for one can think of plenty of horrific implications.
Posted by: wavemaker at March 21, 2005 12:42 PM (36XNK)
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I'll work backwards
It's simple, means do sometimes justify the ends. Everything depends on both the means and the ends. The ends here are tangibly horrific, the means are only marginally intriguing legal arguments.
I don't really buy the slippery slope argument. Maybe this could lead to abuses by Congress, maybe not. What is certain is that if Congress did nothing something horrible would have happened (and still might)
#2 point well taken. I disagree.
#1 can't. Don't have time.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 21, 2005 01:18 PM (JQjhA)
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"If Jesus were alive today, Karl Rove would kill him"
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2005/1096
Posted by: greg at March 21, 2005 03:43 PM (/+dAV)
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People -- like Wavemaker -- who think that Congress does not have authority to intervene in the Schiavo case have conviently forgotten the 14th amendment to the federal constitution of the United States.
As for the Florida legislature, Wavemaker, they have repeatedly tried to protect Terri Schiavo, but they have stupidly allowed the Florida judiciary to stop them.
This is a republic, not a judgacracy! Elected legislatures are supposed to rule here, not judges.
Furthermore, to argue, as Wavemaker does, that this is an "the ends justifies all means" case is absurd. We are talking about an innocent woman's life here. Anyone who doesn't see that the potential murder of an innocent person demands drastic action is seriously fucked up in the head.
The fact that Wavemaker refuses to consider the clear evidence that Terri's court-appointed guardian -- the husband who has abandonned her for another woman -- does not have Terri's interests at heart shows that Wavemaker doesn't care to have a serious consideration of the issues in this case. He simply want to see the brain-damaged Terri done to death.
Posted by: David at March 21, 2005 04:52 PM (aOdhJ)
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Oh come now David, don't be hysterical.
First of all, let me assure you that I am no "moonbat." To the contrary, I served six years in the legislature as a conservative Republican and had a 100% pro-life votiing record --- so let's drop the hyperbole, take a deep breath and chill. Not everyone who disagrees with Congress's action in this matter is a looney left pro-abortion wacko. Keep trolling the blogs on the right --- you'll find plenty of disagreement on this issue --
The Florida legislature tried to "protect Terri" by passing a stupid law that gave the Governor standing to seek relief. If they'd have passed a law that permitted the parents of any mental incompetent, emancipated adult to seek judicial relief over the objections of the incompetent adult's legal guardian, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I haven't "conveniently forgotten" anything -- I didn't say "they don't have a right" to intervene," I said that I don't agree with what they did. Then you characterize my "ends-means argument as "fucked up in the head" but conceded that the ends (taking drastic action to prevent the potential murder of an innocent person) are justified by the means (supporting Congress's action).
"Serious consideration of the issues." Get a grip.
Posted by: wavemaker at March 21, 2005 07:55 PM (2GyMB)
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David, Here's a link to Volokh Conspiracy that, if you can read it and understand it, might permit you to see my point:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_03_20-2005_03_26.shtml#1111444673
Posted by: wavemaker at March 21, 2005 08:03 PM (2GyMB)
March 18, 2005
Congress Moves to Save Terri Schiavo's Life (UPDATED: The Murder Has Begun)
3:20 PM: IT HAS BEGUN
Terry Cries when told she is about to be murdered.
My infant son seems to have about the same mental capacity as Terri. I dare any one of you to try starve him to death......
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Death by starvation. But we must be concerned that killers go to their deaths without pain. What a bunch of bullshit.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 18, 2005 08:21 AM (CBNGy)
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So give her husband the option to call Dr. Kevorkian. Make sense to me.
Posted by: Chris Short at March 18, 2005 09:24 AM (0ipwp)
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The Nazis euthanized their handicapped.
Posted by: Carlos at March 18, 2005 09:46 AM (8e/V4)
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The Nazis also built the Autobahn. End highway construction now!
Posted by: Wine-aholic at March 18, 2005 12:53 PM (Wsn+K)
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Yet another example why you filthy infidels are not fit to live. You kill the sick & infirm.
So my brother muslims make the woman wear a burka and we chop heads off pimps and drug dealers and we throw rocks at adulturers and sometimes we whip and hang rapists but youuuuu..... you take a poor sick woman and you starve her to death like a dog forgotten in a kennell.
You are the scum. Try chopping heads off your pimps because it is much better than killing a sick woman in cold blood.
Posted by: FILTHY ALLAH at March 18, 2005 12:56 PM (yBHNA)
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Cold blooded murder.
Posted by: Brad at March 18, 2005 01:01 PM (NzgK/)
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Dear Lord:
Please strike down and cast into hell the demon that removes this poor woman's feeding tube. Thank you Jesus.
Amen.
Posted by: obsnooks at March 18, 2005 01:01 PM (yBHNA)
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Dear Lord,
Please say that you have better things to do (such as your ongoing fight with unadulterated evil in its most malevolent and threatening forms) than to get really, really concerned about this muddy issues where both sides have developed arguments that simply aim to one-up each other and claim a moral high ground. Thank you, Jebus.
Ahhhh-men. Let's eat.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at March 18, 2005 01:20 PM (Wsn+K)
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Wine Boy. What is happening to this chick is Pure evil. She is being murdered.
If we had not fed some iraqi prisoners and they starved to death, there would have been hell to pay. But, it is okay to starve this broad to death because A. She can't talk and B. She aint so hot no mo.
Scott Peterson will die a more reasonable death than this chick.
Dear Lord: Please smite those that need to be smotted. He who pulleth the tubeith, get whackith.
Posted by: Obsnooks at March 18, 2005 01:26 PM (yBHNA)
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Isn't the past tense of "smite" "smotten"???
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 18, 2005 01:35 PM (JQjhA)
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Rusty: Only if you have mooched from thine neighbors hut.
Posted by: obsnooks at March 18, 2005 01:41 PM (yBHNA)
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Ah, but I am a-ok with some Iraqi prisoners starving to death. Hell, I figure they would starve to death anyway, so we just act as the hands of Fate. And secondly, I actually favor killing hot chicks more than killing not-so hot chicks. The reasoning is very complex, and requires a few advanced degrees in calculus and forensic science/criminal justice to understand, so I will not elaborate further. Besides, the quicker I die, the quicker I get to be re-born into a snail or something. Rockin'!
Posted by: Wine-aholic at March 18, 2005 01:50 PM (Wsn+K)
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Wine- Since you put it that way.....I agree.
Posted by: ObSnooks at March 18, 2005 02:00 PM (yBHNA)
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http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html
petition to recall judge greer.
The MSM is calling it a right to die case.
Wrong. It's a right to murder case.
Posted by: nospam at March 18, 2005 02:33 PM (nTEvo)
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The tube is out! It will take Terri TWO WHOLE WEEKS to die naturally. Is this humane???? Goddamn, murderers get to die with more dignity and quickly with no pain hardly at all.
This is bullshit. It's murder. There was a young woman who just woke up from a 20 yr. coma last month...they said there was no hope for her too!!!! They cannot explain how or why she came out of the coma!!!!
No one starved Christopher Reeve to death....that means all the mentally handicapped people who can't think for themselves or feed themselves should die too????
Posted by: Laura at March 18, 2005 03:13 PM (L3PPO)
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My 2 month old cousin acts just like Terri does now. Maybe i should stop feeding him.
I only pray that Jebus will rain fire on those responsible for the murder of this poor helpless woman.
Dear Lord: Send this POS Judge a case of ass blisters.
Posted by: Obsnooks at March 18, 2005 03:19 PM (yBHNA)
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My Gran lays in bed all day and she looks like she is in a coma. Does this mean I can stop feeding her?
Once they Kill Terri, who will they kill next? The 2nd one is always easier-
Will it be your mother?
Posted by: Dirty Allah at March 18, 2005 03:22 PM (yBHNA)
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I had a case of ass blisters once. Let me warn you -- while popping/lancing blisters may be good on other parts of the body, it only causes problems in the ass region. I couldn't do the 'Booty Shake' with Jeff "COCK" Gannon at the local club for a week afterwards.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at March 18, 2005 03:22 PM (Wsn+K)
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"My 2 month old cousin acts just like Terri does now. Maybe i should stop feeding him."
Don't be silly. One of the differences between your cousin and terri is the outlook and chances of change in their condition.
Posted by: actus at March 18, 2005 03:27 PM (Eg4/w)
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Terri could wake up.
Those who murder this woman will be judged by God. Then they will pay.
Posted by: obsnooks at March 18, 2005 03:33 PM (yBHNA)
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She certainly can! If she were truly "brain dead" she would NOT be able to breathe on her own..she is brain DAMAGED, a big difference...so we are judging what the quality of life is now? Another Hitler?
My infant son was fed with a feeding tube. Terri is too...she is NOT on a respirator...BIG DIFFERENCE. Her brain is TELLING her to breathe!!!!
I don't understand why Schiavo couldn't take that mil and be done with it, start his new life, and leave Terri to her parents' care.
Posted by: Laura at March 18, 2005 03:36 PM (L3PPO)
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just keep praying....... screaming by all is doing nothing to make the powers to be understand such a thing as compassion ...
hmm, what if this were Judge Greer's daughter ??????
Posted by: desertmom at March 18, 2005 03:42 PM (TRCgV)
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Interesting that you link to my post without comment one way or the other. But thanks for the traffic.
Like Bill, I have questions that neither side can answer. I'm just praying for Terri.
Posted by: Brian B at March 18, 2005 03:55 PM (CouWh)
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Another thing....some people are respirators NEED them to breathe and would certainly die if taken off them, who are NOT brain dead, damaged, whatever....they may be in a slight coma, or have ephysema, asthma, whatever. Since they too cannot speak for themselves, are we to disconnect everyone from any machine???
Kidney dialysis, oxygen depdndent, pacemakers, hell, let's kill everyone who cannot function without a machine.
Posted by: Laura at March 18, 2005 03:59 PM (L3PPO)
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Some people claim that Terri is in a coma. She isn't, because she is awake.
Some people claim that Terri is brain dead. Impossible, because she isn't on any machines. The only "machine" she has is a feeding tube in her abdomen since she can't eat. She is brain damaged, not brain dead.
Some people claim that Terri will not be starved to death; she will just be "allowed to die" by being "denied nutrition". Yep, it's just like the euphemisms used for abortion. Make no mistake: TERRI IS BEING STARVED TO DEATH.
Some people claim that this is a family decision to be made between husband and wife. That may be so in a termination of treatment case, but food and water is not medical treatment. This is EUTHANASIA, pure and simple. Terri is being actively killed by being denied basic nutrition.
Some people claim that Michael Schiavo should have the decision to make, euthanasia or no, because he is Terri's loving husband. Loving, huh? Would a loving husband have put Terri's beloved pet cats to sleep after her brain injury? Would a loving husband date other women, become engaged to another woman, and father two children with this other woman, an act of adultery by any standard? Would a loving husband MELT DOWN TERRI'S WEDDING RING to make it into another piece of jewelry? Would a loving husband deny Terri the right to see ANYONE, including her parents, her brother, and even her priest to give her the Eucharist, an extremely important Holy Sacrament to Catholics like Terri? Would a loving husband refuse to allow Terri to have any rehabilitation? Would a loving husband refuse to allow Terri any chance to try eating food, instead opting to starve her to death when it's possible that she could swallow food if they tried to feed her? Would a loving husband refuse to allow Terri to receive even the most basic of care - the brushing of her teeth - resulting in some of her teeth becoming rotten? NO.
Posted by: JWL at March 18, 2005 06:12 PM (mEufb)
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HE IS A B#$!&*D HOPE HE ROTS IN HELL!
Posted by: sparky at March 18, 2005 06:23 PM (F1nba)
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JWL--Don't get too Catholic here. Greyrooster, Brad, and I have already been banned to another planet by bigots--from the Left.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 18, 2005 07:17 PM (naWNm)
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YBP
lol you betta be careful wot ya say you might upset someone:0)
Are you trying to start another war of words?
Posted by: sparky at March 18, 2005 07:27 PM (F1nba)
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YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT - IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW, CONACT ME - I'VE SAID ENOUGH HERE ALREADY.. IT'S NOT MURDER AND I CAN PROVE IT - IT'S DYING WITH DIGNITY; SHE'S OUTLAST KAREN ANN QUINLIN. WHAT TO KNOW THE TRUTH, EMAIL ME.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 19, 2005 12:46 AM (PEKrh)
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AND SHE IS NOT BEING STARVED TO DEATH BUT SHE IS GETTING SYMPATHETIC CARE. 20 YEARS IS WAY TOO LONG.
CINDY
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at March 19, 2005 12:48 AM (PEKrh)
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JWL: I was totally neutral until reading your post. Most posters merely applied there owns beliefs to every situation. After reading your posts I must say I agree 100%.
Sorry Cindy! You just haven't convinced me. I do understand what you are saying. What if we had a million people like this lady? Then many of those crying to keep her alive would be screaming "do the humane thing and let them go".
One thought for everyone. I have no knowledge of how much it costs to keep this lady alive. Two years ago I was in the hospital for 4 months. The bill $734,000. That did not include the bill for the surgeon of my choice for 5 operations. Could the money be used better? In the end, isn't that what it comes down to. Could this lady be transferred to her parents home for care?
As for me. Let he go quickly. I have no desire to spend what I have earned in an attempt to prolong my life when like wouldn't be worth living. Better to leave the kids something.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 19, 2005 08:11 AM (CBNGy)
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Shit. Nazi thing again. Why not Vlad the impaler?
Posted by: greyrooster at March 19, 2005 08:14 AM (CBNGy)
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Another thought just struck me. If a baby raping killer is arrested we put him on suicide watch to save his life???????????
Ah screw it. It's too screwed up to ever make any sense.
For the record. The Klan does not believe in suicide watch for baby raping killers. We believe in giving them a rope and telling them we'll be back in 30 minutes.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 19, 2005 08:21 AM (CBNGy)
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Cindy,
I have followed this tragedy for some time. Recently , Terry's parents took out a full page add in a Conservative Catholic newspaper called "The Wanderer". In in they detail all of what JWL says and more.
Michael Schiavo's conduct has not been neglegent, it has been abusive.
His denial of basic dental and hygine care for his "wife" makes no sense unless you believe as I do that he is a sub human (one of 4 I had the displeasure to hear speak yesterday).
In the absence of a written document, I truly do not understand how the State can put this woman to death, a horrible painful death.
Why is turning her care over to her parents not the best option? She would get the spiritual and physical help she needs.
If this was one of my girls, you would see a sceen like Rodney King with 20 cops,tasers and knight sticks a beatin my dumb ass before this scum pulled the lifeline out. I just do not understand how someone can insist on her death. Just makes me sick.
Oh the other 3 subhumans...David Gibbs, the attorney who can now get that new BMW 7 series after the check clears. Henry Waxman the disgusting member of congress and Ron Wyden, the tree huggin senator from Oregon. Ron would kill Terry in a New York minute, but fight to the death to save a ponderosa Pine.
Posted by: Brad at March 19, 2005 08:38 AM (ywZa8)
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The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get. I don't mind killing. I have killed before. BUT. If the woman must die. Why slowly? By starvation. Shit if it's best for her that she go. Do it quick. Our courts have left rational reasoning behind. The result of liberalism?
I took an old dog to the vet. The vet put him to sleep in my arms. Quickly and without pain or anxiety for $90.00. I volunteer to pay the $90.00 so this woman doesn't have to suffer. What if whats left in her brain realizes what is happening? Starve for weeks.
I don't know. I'm not a doctor. But I do know this.
My 20 yr old daughter is a nurse. She has a 19 year old patient who went into a drug induced coma. He breaths thru a tube in his throat and eats thru a tube in his stomach. My daughter tells me she often sees him crying to himself at night.
So can a doctor that runs through the ward in 10 minutes tell what is happening?
Posted by: greyrooster at March 19, 2005 08:40 AM (CBNGy)
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You would change your mind if you heard the gal on Sean Hannity's radio talk show! This woman had a stroke in her brain, and could not do anything....her mind was trapped inside her paralyzed body for 70 days...doctors told the husband to give up....after 70 days, she started coming around.
There was also a woman who woke up from a coma after TWENTY YEARS, also was supposed to be a hopeless case! No one could explain how this could happen. It could happen to Terri too. She will slowly die from dehydration. Murderers die quicker and with more dignity.
This is a right to murder, not a right to die.
Posted by: Laura at March 19, 2005 09:02 AM (L3PPO)
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This is a family matter and Terri is being used as a political pawn. If you read her medical history you would find that she has no brain activity. She has no QUALITY of life, but lots of people want to force QUANTITY on her...who thinks this is living? How many of us would want to "live" this way? Not I!
Posted by: GC at March 19, 2005 05:30 PM (m1Vsj)
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Without something in writing, the courts should be keeping her alive! That's why a living will is sooo damned important...something could happen at any age! Without a living will, they have no other choice but to keep her alive, why they allowed the tube to be removed is beyond me.
Posted by: Laura at March 19, 2005 06:04 PM (L3PPO)
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greyrooster-usually I agree with you (to some degree) but what is your point. should you have just been let to died instead of using the $734,000? what happened anyways? you got your cock caught in a pto or what.
Posted by: dreamer at March 19, 2005 10:52 PM (bgoXf)
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Seems Bush is doing something to sign something into legislation. Maybe the tube will be reinserted here soon.
Posted by: Laura at March 20, 2005 10:51 AM (L3PPO)
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Dreamer: The point is that if 4 months in the hospital cost $734,000. How much would 20 years cost?
What happened? In February 2002, I was shot in the stomach by two would be muggers in New Orleans, La. Why? Because I refused to "give it up". Meaning my wallet. I wasn't using my eyes behind my head and got trapped while getting into my car parked on a side street. This was two blocks from Bourbon Str. in the heart of the Quarter (tourist section). Lesson learned. Even when in the company of two tough young bucks shit can happen.
The result. One mugger shot in leg twice and still escaped, only to be caught later at a hospital. Now he's doing life in Angola State prison. The other was never apprehended but was killed by one of his "brothers" in a drug deal 1 month later.
Gun shot wounds are hell but I was lucky until the hospital gave me a infection during the first operation. The infection turned L1, L2 and L3 to mush in only 9 days. This resulted in four more operations to rebuild my back. Bone grafs from both hips (I wouldn't agree to cadaver bones) and a couple of pounds of steel and good as new. But no fun. Since they had to open up both sides for bone graf material. Open up my back to replace various parts this left me without any side to lie on. Remember my stomach already had a hole in it big enough to stick your fist into. Had to heal from the inside out and took 6 months to close. Had to sit up for 6 months in leather chair, as no side left to lay on. The bone infection required two anti-biotics at a time, 7 days a week, 24 hrs a day for 3 mos. Which means you cannot eat as all the good bugs die with the bad bugs.
Moral of story. (1)Do not leave your Smith & Wesson under the seat of your car. Better to be caught with it than without it.
(2) When going into operating room ask Emergency Room medical staff if they have washed their hands recently. Believe me the infection was a lot worse than the bullet.
(3) Going 6 months without beer and sex is hell.
(4) Locals from the getto can do what the cong couldn't.
Anyway all is now well and stronger than ever. Does back work? Try pulling in a 150 Lb yellow fin tuna.
To overweight people. Wish to lose 65 lbs in 4 months? Get shot in stomach. Works every time.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 21, 2005 07:19 AM (CBNGy)
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Forgot to mention that during this mess. I died twice, only to be brught back by some genius in critical care.
Moral: Don't give up on this lady. You never know. The experts had my family out selecting a casket.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 21, 2005 07:25 AM (CBNGy)
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Apologies to David Gibbs,attorney for Terri's parents.
Meant to slam Terri's (Husband's) attorney.
Posted by: Brad at March 21, 2005 09:42 AM (M7kiy)
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Seems there are conflicting reports as to Terri's "cognizance" (spelling?). The husband says there is NO response, and the parents say she smiles, laughs, and follows them with her eyes!!
Why is the husband so adamant about pulling the plug on her? He's already fathered two kids with the girlfriend, why doesn't he wash his hands of it and let the parents care for her? Without something in writing, legally, the courts SHOULD intervene on Terri's behalf!
And if not, why do they have to let her slowly die? Bring in Kervorchian and let her die quickly and painlessly, if she's got to go. Even animals are treated with more dignity.
The husband says this is a personal matter and that the courts should stay out of it...oh yeah? So, if I kill my husband because I find out he's cheating on me, I am justified in doing so, because it's a personal matter and the courts should leave me alone??
It's not a personal matter to end someone's life!!! Kudos to Bush for cutting short his trip and flying back to Washington to help out.
Posted by: Laura at March 21, 2005 12:27 PM (L3PPO)
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Although it pains me to say it “again”, Chicken Little is right that society is so stupid that we will humanely put an animal out of their misery but we will allow our fellow men, (and women), to die an agonizing death. If there is no hope, then lets stop the suffering as mercifully as possible.
As far as the situation with Terri is concern, I believe that this should be a Florida affair. I am sure the Florida's state government and judicial system is quite capable of handling the matter. My personal opinion, I think that Michael should of taken the million and handed over all rights to TerriÂ’s parents. Let him start a new life, which is exactly what he has already done.
Chicken Little, all I can say is what a waste of $734,000. Maybe if the genius in critical care new what a racist pig loving Klansman you are, maybe you would of not been so lucky. Well, we can always hope that the 3rd time is a charm.
Posted by: Butch at March 21, 2005 02:51 PM (Gqhi9)
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I just don't understand why this so called loving husband is so adamant about ending her life. If he had all these rights, wouldn't Terri already have expired? If he is the guardian and has power of attorney, how come her parents are able to stop him every time?
Why has this been allowed to go on for 15 yrs.? Sounds like these families are being selfish and want to win their case. OK, so let the husband give total control to Terri's parents, what's the big deal? Oh that's right....she told him she wouldn't want to be kept alive under those circumstances. How can we honor that request when there is nothing in writing to prove it? So we should just go by what he said and pull the plug? And, it's not a plug, it's nutrition, not a respirator! Removing the tube is starvation, plain and simple. We don't allow animals to die that way at the local shelters. Terri deserves more dignity than that!
Why should Dr. Kervorchian be arrested when Michael Schiavo's being allowed to kill his wife? If she has to go, I say do it with an injection, like they do the death row inmates.
The starvation method is cruel, inhumane and just wrong, morally, ethically, etc.
Posted by: Laura at March 21, 2005 04:21 PM (L3PPO)
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Getto porch monkey Butch: There will not be a 3rd time. Whenever, I see someone that looks like you on a dark street, I plan to shoot first and spend the $734,000 on a lawyer. Sorry your brother is in Angola. He was also convicted of slashing an elderly lady during another attempted brother thing.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 22, 2005 02:40 AM (CBNGy)
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You are truly ignorant or arrogant to believe that you will not die a third time. As for shooting anyone who looks like me, you have no clue what I look like chicken little brain. I on the other hand, if I so desired, could easily target all of you bed sheet dressing dirt bags and I would have a better change of sending your sorry ass to the great frying pan in the sky. At worse, I will be improving American society by getting rid of your crappy Klan brothers.
Posted by: Butch at March 25, 2005 08:29 AM (Gqhi9)
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did a quick search on "terri schiavo's cats" after seeing it on a protesters sign in a video...if what i read is true there is good reason to suspect that terri's husband was violent to her possibly causing her condition. meaning if he had been criminally charged with assaulting or abusing her he'd be praying she would survive so he wouldn't be up for murder1. terri's parents apparently offered to take her cats and michael had them put down instead. also that he allegedly lived off her income at times & couldn't hold down a job, checked up on her, etc. I used to think "why did he wait so long to come out with this she didn't want to be kept alive thing" but otherwise give her pain drugs to make her end merciful, and let her go. now i still think that re terri but i now suspect michael is trying like mad--and will probably succeed-with finishing off a murder he started years ago, and nobody can do a damn thing about it. nobody charged him with abusing terri all those years ago, and the domestic violence laws we have today probably weren't in existence when terri needed them. do the same search i did and see if you don't think something stinks.
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"My infant son seems to have about the same mental capacity as Terri. I dare any one of you to try starve him to death......" First of all, Terri has much less mental capacity than your infant son. Second, I hope when your infant son is on life support in a hospital your political enemies and religious fanatics come out of the woodwork to take YOUR decisions away from you. And third, Terri's own father pulled the plug on his mother after a WEEK, and Tom DeLay pulled the plug on his own father after less than a MONTH, so anyone who thinks they're doing this for anything but political reasons is lying to themselves. You can read about it at the L.A. Times.
Posted by: Anchorite at March 30, 2005 02:40 AM (sQYYk)
March 01, 2005
Jeff Gannon Spotted at Beirut Protest
Is this Jeff Gannon / James Guckert at an illegal anti-Syrian protest in Beirut, Lebanon? But I thought the homophobic GOP was about anything but freedom? The tentacles of KKKarl Rove's VRWC run deep. More photos from Lebanon here. (hat tip: Steve, Ace, Bill)
HINT: Check out the shirt.
UPDATE: Guckert was "a plant" by the Bush administration...!!!!
UPDATE II: Jeff Gannon speaks about his role in the Lebanese revolution. No, seriously. Here is an interview with Jeff Gannon at Lifelike Pundits.
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Now that everyone but the MSM, Sen Reid and N. Pelosi realizes that the War on terror is going very well democracy is trying to grow everywhere.
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