October 27, 2005
Dhimmification Denied
Stein hoist to uber-kafir
Patrick for this:
TAMPA, Fla., Oct. 26 (UPI) -- A Florida school district has decided that students will get no religious holidays from school after a debate over which religion should get the days.
Hillsborough County School Board members approved the 2006-2007 school year calendar with only three holiday days off -- Labor Day, President's Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day, the Tampa Tribune reports.
Ahmed Bedier of the Council on American-Islamic Relations had hoped for a day off of school for the Muslim holy day of Eid Al-Fitr, which marks the end of Ramadan.
Bishop Chuck Leigh of the Florida Council of Churches said the board made a mistake in not granting the Muslim holiday.
But school board attorney Tom Gonzalez told the board that it was wrong to close the school for any religion.
Students who miss class for a religious holiday will not be penalized.
Wow, I was all set to do a throwdown on this school district, because at first glance it appears that they're inconveniencing everyone just to appease CAIR. Typically, that's how these things tend to work. See: 10 Commandments monuments, et.al.
But then I took a look at my kids calendar for school, where no CAIR member dare to tread, and here are the single day holidays:
Labor Day
Martin Luther King Day
President's Day
Memorial Day
So I thought, hm, they've axed Thanksgiving to appease CAIR, but then I dug out the (PDF alert!) school calendar mentioned in the article, and there it was.
What about Christmas? Still off, because it falls under the politically correctly monikered Winter Break.
So, we can give this school district kudos for telling CAIR to shove it, albeit in an offhand way. All they did was put out a press release saying that they're going to keep the same days off that they did before, but, by adding the religious angle, they get CAIR off of their backs.
There is a dark side to the tale, however. I took a look at the calendar for (PDF alert!) this school year, and compared it to the one for next, and there was a single day holiday eliminated.
Veterans Day. (if you're wondering about Memorial Day, a look at the calendar shows these schools let out before then)
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DId u even read the story? The school, which has a large muslim population, asked the board to recognise Eid, since it recognises christmas and 2 jewish holidays. Fair enough, ud think but this being america, the school decided to rescind ALL religious holidays instead of giving muslim students whats they deserve.
Posted by: Jason at October 28, 2005 05:41 AM (vTwkU)
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Jason, I don't know what story you read, but I read four accounts of this and never once saw any particular school mentioned nor a "large Muslim population" in any one school or the district itself. Sources, please.
Kids and teachers have had Christmas holidays and Easter holidays for many decades. Then they were forced to name them "Winter Break" And "Spring Break" so as not to offend anyone. Now some want to add more holidays to the curriculum. Next, the Wiccans will want something like "Gaia Day" off, or the Buddhists will want their own "New Year's Day" off. The ACLU and other groups have fought long and hard to keep religion out of it and now the Muslims want to add religion back to the mix. Do you think the ACLU will fight it? I doubt it.
CAIR has been trying to get the government to release an actual statement recognizing Islam as "one of the world's great religions" and this is just a backdoor attempt to get it done. Is the ACLU against this? Haven't heard a peep.
It's time to just leave well enough alone. They said no student will be punished for taking their religious holiday off. I think that's enough.
Posted by: Oyster at October 28, 2005 06:26 AM (YudAC)
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Of course I read the story, but you apparently didn't read the post.
Like Oyster said, if come in and make these assertions, you need to provide some links.
Posted by: Vinnie at October 28, 2005 06:55 AM (Kr6/f)
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Jason, the only think 'slamotards "deserve" is a one-way ticket back to 'slamotardistan and a boot in the ass when they get there, and a warning not to return under penalty of death. If they want to take a holiday honoring their pedophile prophet, let them take it at Christmas or Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 28, 2005 07:39 AM (0yYS2)
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It wont be long until we wont be celebrating anything except some muselum holidays all becuase of the jerks that run the school boards and the secular idiots at the leftist ACLU
Posted by: sandpiper at October 28, 2005 08:29 AM (aoHRB)
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Veterans Day next year falls on a Saturday. And I would rather that my sons attend school on Veterans Day. Then they get to hear from actual Veterans and meet the true heroes in our community.
Posted by: Bullshark at October 28, 2005 08:32 AM (/E1+1)
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I think the progression of your thoughts and feelings beginning with outrage and ending with taking a deeper look at the issue is a typical one. I was also angered at this story but there are some very important questions that do need to be dealth with the most relevant being - When does a traditional judeo-christian nation like ours have enough diversity that we have alter our traditional view of religious holidays? If half the country converted to Islam would we hold on to our Christian government sponsered holidays just for the sake of tradition?
Posted by: Jeremy at October 28, 2005 08:36 AM (lto3D)
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Jeremy,
We don't have any state sponsered Christian holidays anymore. That has been done away with. Do you see a reason to start that again?
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 28, 2005 10:40 AM (rUyw4)
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"When does a traditional judeo-christian nation like ours have enough diversity that we have alter our traditional view of religious holidays?"
We've already reached that point. While individually we have not altered our views, as a nation we have. Hence the politally correct non-mention of "Christmas". As Easter falls on Sunday, and most people don't work on Sunday anyway, the only other ones are Good Friday, which is not as widely recognized in the workplace, and Christmas Day. And it depends on what business you're in as to whether you get ANY holidays of ANY kind off.
But, you missed the point entirely. This is school. Remember? Where no religion is supposed to be mentioned? You know - "Winter Break" rather than "Christmas Vacation" and all that? Now they want another day declared off for "religious purposes" when we're not supposed to have religion in our schools. So what do we do now? Abolish winter break because one day out of two weeks is a Christian holiday? Or shift it so that Christmas Day is not in that two week period in order for a minority not to be offended?
As they said, "Students who miss class for a religious holiday will not be penalized." This is the respectful thing to do - not declare another holiday for religious purposes which a majority of students will not be celebrating as they are not Muslim.
Posted by: Oyster at October 28, 2005 04:08 PM (fl6E1)
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Simple fact: the majority of people in this country celebrate Christmas in one way or another, be it religiously or commercially. If you held school on those days it would be a waste because no one would be there. And I teach, so trust me, those teachers that didn't get approved for personal days would be calling out sick. I'm also aware of a county in a neighboring state that has off for the Jewish holidays of Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, because of the large Jewish population among students, but also staff. The fact that they wouldn't have enough substitutes, warrants those days off.
As for holidays, who can I complain to that I no longer have off for Columbus Day? I remember as a kid spending a week before talking about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. Now he's a murdering bastard and the students don't know anything about him. Oh well, at least when they did away with the Columbus Day holiday around here, they gave back the Veteran's Day holiday.
Posted by: Maureen at October 28, 2005 05:04 PM (ny5O/)
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And , hey! What about Festivus for the rest of us?
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A Little Help, Please
Who is this "Harry Etmyers" that everyone keeps talking about?
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I don't know either.
Just talked to one of my fishing partners. His $800.00 home at Eden Isles (Slidell, La) sustained major water damage. So he moved to one of his condo's (that happened to be empty) on Lake Huron in Michigan. Fema send him $2,000.00 to help with his relocation. They also sent him $2350.00 for addition rent expenses. Let me see here. He moves from his beautiful home on the water in La. to his condo on Lake Huron and the tax payers pay the bill???? He also lost a fancy moter coach. His moter coach, boats and home are fully insured and the guy has millions. Way to go Fema.
The Fema employees brought from out of state at great expense have to travel 45 minutes to work from the tax paid for motel they are staying in. They also get meals paid for. They are working 66 hrs per week. NOW GET THIS. They are paid at an overtime rate for the 2 1/2 hrs per day they drive to work buddied up 4 to a car. THE WORKING PEOPLE paying the bill don't get paid overtime for sitting in traffic or driving long distances to work.
The idea behind FEMA is good. The actual management is horrible.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2005 01:34 PM (M7kiy)
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not to threadjack, but:
Greyrooster, I was watching some of the people in queues for Water and bags of Ice on CNN. Now bare in mind that this was a little over forty-eight hours after the Hurricane -- people actually had the nerve to start attacking FEMA saying that they did not provide enough water or Ice.
Why is it in todays society people feel like the Government should be their wet nurse? With all the warnings about the Hurricane they couldn't buy enough bottled water, fill water containers or even their bathtub? couldn't have stocked a cooler with ice?
You'd almost think we lived in a nation of "Old Mother Hubbard's" that don't have enough Food, or Water to survive 3-7 days?
I personally don't rely on the Government for anything in my life, and I sure wouldn't be relying on them to provide me food/water/shelter in the event of a natural disaster. I'm not why some people don't take responsibility for their own wellbeing.
Posted by: dave at October 27, 2005 02:06 PM (CcXvt)
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Isn't he a pitcher for the ChiSox?
Threadjack: The gov't can't be a nanny, more like a spiteful schoolmarm... And I'm pretty sure your buddy with the condos paid way more than five grand to the government in any given year. Where's the skin off your nose if he gets some back? Are you arguing that other people deserve his money more than he does?
Posted by: tee bee at October 27, 2005 03:01 PM (q1JHF)
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Welcome back, Greyrooster, if you haven't seen my comments on another thread. Glad to know you're better than ever, what with your new plumbing and all.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 27, 2005 03:08 PM (rUyw4)
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tee bee:
Reality called, and left a message it reads "I'm missing you."
I bet you think the two thousand dollar debit cards were a good idea too?
Posted by: dave at October 27, 2005 03:22 PM (CcXvt)
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How come Jeb isn't on tv bawling his eyes out at the disaster that is Florida? How come I don't hear about no Lootin or people being picked off roof tops?
No rapes or killins or 2000 debit cards... No Geraldo loosin his shizzle on tv?
What's up wit dat?
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 27, 2005 03:37 PM (5ceWd)
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Filthy,
That logic you're using will lead you to the subject that cannot be discussed in a rational way in America: RACE.
Good luck, because it needs to be addressed.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 27, 2005 04:01 PM (rUyw4)
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Jesusland joe
Race may be too broad - personally think it has more to do with class - and I don't mean socio-economic. Remember - the images we all saw were essentially confined to one urban area (NO)with a rather sleazy and seemy reputation to start with.
Posted by: hondo at October 27, 2005 05:02 PM (ymtSt)
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Hondo,
I have to agree that NO is rather seemy and sleazy, no doubt about that, but I have been to most major cities in the US, and they all have that same problem in microcosm.
We can discuss class all we want, but the fact that you dodged the "race question" confirms my original statement. If you discuss it in a rational or irrational way, you will still be labeled a racist, while a black man can get on national television(C-Span) and call for the extermination of the white race from the entire Earth and we don't even hear a hiccup out of the MSM.
Why is that, Hondo, or anyone else out there. Why?
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 27, 2005 06:49 PM (rUyw4)
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ah, the race card, the p\oker equivalent of a royal flush.
Once bought into play by a black person, during discussion of an issue; you're officially on notice you're a bigot.
Posted by: dave at October 27, 2005 09:23 PM (CcXvt)
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Jesusmonger Jehosephat - beast-eaters anakinomymous has selected you as purveyor of the disgusting mothball mouth perky pills.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at October 27, 2005 10:43 PM (msD7v)
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I like perky pills and take them regularly. Strawbery is my favorite flavor. DSM is a dumn ass.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 28, 2005 05:05 AM (rUyw4)
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I'm a bigot Dave; I hate stupid people and think they should all be neutered and sent to work in some salt mines somewhere, and the fact that there is a higher incidence of stupidity among some demographic groups than others is in no way a fault of mine.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 28, 2005 07:54 AM (0yYS2)
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Beheading Terrorists Killed in Mosul Raid of Safe House.
Good news, the last time we saw this guy he was personally helping to behead people. IÂ’ve inquired about which specific beheadings this now very dead man was involved in. When I find out IÂ’ll pass that along to you. We got his buddy too.
CENTCOM:An al-Qaeda terrorist cell leader who personally assisted in at least three videotaped beheadings and his assistant were killed during a Coalition raid of a suspected safe house in Mosul Oct. 22. Nashwan Mijhim Muslet (aka Abu Tayir or Abu Zaid) was a senior operational al-Qaeda in Iraq terrorist cell leader who operated specifically in the Mosul area. His cell was known as the primary beheading cell for Abu Talha, the al-Qaeda in Iraq Emir of Mosul who was captured in June, 2005, and Abu Zubayr, second in command to Talha and later Emir of Mosul after Talha was detained. Zubayr was killed in August, 2005.
Good riddance I can only hope it was a slow and painful death and he was very aware he was dying the whole time. Click for photos of his ugly mug and his buddy below.
more...
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This makes my day! Goodbye you rotten bastard, and burn in hell. Sorry for the language, but nothing else seemed appropriate.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 27, 2005 09:59 AM (rUyw4)
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My congrats to the the guys who took out these pieces of trash. I guess it's true what they say: what goes around, comes around........in the form of a 5.56 NATO round to the cranium.
Posted by: Graeme at October 27, 2005 10:03 AM (JrY7w)
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One by one they all come down, no different than other organized crime.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at October 27, 2005 10:58 AM (/lpvu)
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My GOD!!! thats my neighbors boyfriend.... U ASSTARDS!!!!!!
Posted by: King Kong at October 27, 2005 11:40 AM (0uVqr)
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Yaaay! Al Reuters is lacking another "journalist."
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at October 27, 2005 12:05 PM (Lq/X7)
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Who says you can't use violence to attain peace?
Posted by: Vulture 6 at October 27, 2005 02:48 PM (XmJvb)
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Anyone who says violence doesn't solve problems simply doesn't know how to properly apply violence.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 27, 2005 03:10 PM (0yYS2)
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IM,
As a character on one of my favorite Sci Fi TV shows once said, "There are few problems in the Universe that cannot be solved by the application of a brick to the head. Difficulties arise when you don't have a big enough BRICK or you can't find the right HEAD. The Devil is in the details."
Posted by: Brian B at October 27, 2005 03:54 PM (rGfpg)
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Man, I wish I could have been the one on the trigger when that went down. A round to each kneecap. Wait five minutes...A round to the genitals. Wait five minutes...Then finish up with Buckwheats and watch them contort until they go meet the 72 male camels waiting for them in "paradise". Sorry...these cowards really get me stewed. And I eat too much red meat. And...
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at October 27, 2005 05:52 PM (CtVG6)
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You and me both brother.
Posted by: I am Jill's nipple at October 27, 2005 06:18 PM (0yYS2)
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10785.htm
Posted by: Route Irish at October 28, 2005 02:27 AM (Eh9tH)
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Our own opinions aside, who the fuck cares about wether or not the UN agrees with the war in Iraq anyway, Irish? The UN is a bunch of limp-dick, irrelevant cowards who would rather sit around and wait until after the genocide, disaster, or terrorist attacks to do anything about it. They don't know the meaning of preemptive. Just ask the people of Rwanda, Somalia, the Eastern Block...etc. We should get out of the UN right now. They can stick those blue helmets up their asses. Oh, and the French should be speaking German if you want my opinion on that too.
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at October 30, 2005 07:44 PM (CtVG6)
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Jack, before you pump then full of lead, there is something I would like to seen done to them first. Have a priest, baptism them a Christian, give them their last rites and tell them now they are not going to Muslim Paradise, but to Christian Hell. I'd love to see the look on their faces.
Posted by: Drifter at October 31, 2005 04:24 AM (PvN9G)
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And for the icing on the cake: wait a couple days after their death to bury them (instead of burying them inside of 24 hours as per Muslim tradition), bury them facing the west face down (ditto), stick a broomstick up their asses and include a bottle of Jim Beam, a dead hooker, a huge joint, and a freshly ass-wiped copy of the Quran in the ditch with them.
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October 26, 2005
Jawa Hath Ith Privilegeth
One of the joys of being a Jawa Report poster is being on the inside, being in the know, ever mindful of the fact that yes, one day, I may too become an
anonymous high ranking official who asked not to be named.
And the icing on the cake is being the blogson. Being the blogson gives me access to Rusty that even Howie can only dream of.
What is the point of all this? Well, I have excellent news. Because of my special relationship with my blogfather, I am the only blogger here who has seen the fruits of his labors, the sweat of his brow, the baby that he is soon to deliver with all the pain and agony that birthing a masterpiece entails.
I have the first page of the first chapter of the book that Rusty is putting his final touches on, and I have been granted permission to post it here.
So without further ado, because he who hestitates, well, you know the rest...
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without further ado . . .
:-)
Posted by: AStext at October 27, 2005 12:35 AM (iaPPX)
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Oh for Pete's sake. You had me going.
And, Route Irish, get your own blog.
Posted by: Oyster at October 27, 2005 05:28 AM (YudAC)
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Soon to be a literary masterpiece ranking with the works of such other masters as Gore and the Clintons.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at October 27, 2005 05:28 AM (R3FcZ)
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So what other perks does blogson have as opposed to Paduan beotch. I really gotta make a blog one of these days.
Posted by: Howie at October 27, 2005 09:22 AM (D3+20)
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 27, 2005 09:57 AM (5ceWd)
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Howie...this is pretty much the extent of the perks.
Glad you dropped in, Filthy, I'm working on something just for you!
Posted by: Vinnie at October 27, 2005 10:01 AM (Kr6/f)
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This is almost criminal. That looks exactly like the picture my 10 year-old drew for me back in the 1st grade that still graces my frig. I say plagarism, Rusty, plagarism. I knew I should have copyrighted that darn drawing.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 27, 2005 10:08 AM (rUyw4)
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New banner for the rainbow coalition? j/k.
Posted by: Venom at October 27, 2005 11:22 AM (dbxVM)
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I think we need to appoint a special counsel to investigate the top-secret leaks coming out of the Sandcrawler. As Imperial leader, I promise to fire any person involved in the Jawa-Plame-Gate.
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October 11, 2005
New deal on Iraq's Constitution
After futher talks a major Sunni party has agreed to support a change to the Iraqi constitution that would allow ammendments next year rather then the eight year ban on ammendments that was in the last draft.
ABCNEWS:
The sides agreed to a measure stating that if the draft constitution is passed, the next parliament will be able to consider amendments to it that would then be put to a new referendum next year, Shiite and Sunni officials said. A top Sunni negotiator, Ayad al-Samarraie of the Iraqi Islamic Party, said that if the current parliament approves the measure, "we will stop the campaign rejecting the constitution and we will call on Sunni Arabs to vote yes." Some other major Sunni parties were not present at the negotiations and it was not clear if they too would be willing to reverse their "no" campaigns.
As always in the middle east if there are five seconds left there is still time.
Also here on Yahoo News.
California Conservative has the story on attempts to derail the vote this week.
Updated: The Iraqi assembly has approved the changes.
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What the hell has that got to do with the Iraqi Constitution? Jesus you libtards are such morons.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 11, 2005 05:49 PM (0yYS2)
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HEy you ASSHOLE Ghost shit talker!! I was in the Brownies as a child and you comment doesn't say much about the Brownies. Now I'm NOT at all a Bush fan...I wouldn't mind him being my neighbor though..just not ruling the country. ANYWAYS. I dind't SEE what you claim..him hammering a nail in like a little sissy boy. You know..I'm going to go ahead and NOT beleive that. He grew up on a Texas farm and even I can hammer a nail! Yes yes we know half of America isn't for Bush but why come on here and talk that shit when this article is about the Iraqi constitution. People like you make liberals out to be nutty freaks who jump at every chance to cry out INJUSTICE!!
Posted by: Melanie at October 11, 2005 06:02 PM (YQ8ff)
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What Texan would call himself menenzes' ghost? The last person to use that nick was Greg, and he damn sure wadn't no Texan. That's how this Texan sees it, and if you grew up in East Texas you were on a farm with a pond, but if you grew up in West Texas you were on a ranch with a tank. See, that's how Texas is.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 11, 2005 07:36 PM (rUyw4)
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I must have missed something. Darn.
Actually I thinking that if the constituion was rejected it might not be so bad you know kind of show that voting works and the Sunni side was not in such a big picklle as they think. I'm a bit worried that all this effort to make it go the first time might put that lesson off. I suppose is some ammendments get done next year it would help. Got to be tough for the Sunnis to loose it all and have to co-operate not that they don't deserve it but I would like to see it work. It took us quite a while to get America up[ and running for real. We often leave that part out. You know it took 400 years to go from the rejected rabble and free thinkers of europe who didn't fit to where we are now. Patience is in short suppy there and I'm not sure they can do that.
Posted by: Howie at October 11, 2005 09:48 PM (D3+20)
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What the hell happened to my last post?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 11, 2005 10:06 PM (0yYS2)
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IM got no idea I just got in at 9:00 whatever happend it was not me. Pixi Misa has been working on somtthing I think. comments have been off and on. in short I dunno.
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Ikm could have been me editing while you were posting too. Sorry whatever happened.
Posted by: Howie at October 11, 2005 11:00 PM (D3+20)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 12, 2005 08:52 AM (0yYS2)
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menenzes' ghost also disappeared, do you think we better call in those meddlin' kids?
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 12, 2005 10:02 AM (rUyw4)
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Just the hot one and the Great Dane.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 12, 2005 12:54 PM (0yYS2)
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Has either Vegas or London posted odds on the passing of the Constitution ? Always a good time to bet is when people are ruled more by emotion than by brains
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October 05, 2005
Taliban Spokesman Hakim Latifi Arrested in Pakistan
Here's some good news from
FOXNEWS.Some Pakistani officials said Latifi was arrested Tuesday, but the intelligence official said he was detained Sunday at a home in Quetta's Newi Killi neighborhood. The announcement of Latifi's arrest had been delayed because he was being interrogated about other Taliban leaders, the official said.
Latifi as you may recall is an if not accurate, common mouthpiece spouting Taliban propaganda.
Updated: Even better news.
Also see Chad Evans at In the Bullpen for news of the death of Al-Haj Othman. Leader of the islamic army in Iraq.
Hooray!!! The Jawa Report has extensive archives of the Islamic Army in Iraq's activities. Use the search MPJ with "Islamic Army in Iraq" and you will see just how good this is. Some question of the term Leader if not THE leader he was ONE.
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Filthy doesn't think that was the thing to look out for coming out of Afganistan.
A good catch but, someting better coming soon.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 05, 2005 11:54 AM (5ceWd)
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Wish they would let me interrogate him.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 05, 2005 06:21 PM (ywZa8)
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