August 15, 2005
Iraqi leaders sign constitution (sort of)
CNN is reporting that the Iraqi constituiton has been accepted leaving two issues to be resolved by parliament.
Those issues as of this AM were to what extent various regions would have local power in a federalist system. The other was to what extent Islam would be part of the new government.
Updated : CNN has full story now.
Nasar al-Rubaie, a member of the committee drafting the document, said the document would be handed over to the 275-member National Assembly late Monday for a decision on the two unresolved issues -- women's rights and self-determination. Jalaldin al-Saghir, a Shiite member of parliament, said the same thing but refused to identify the two remaining issues.
Updated again: It seems the national assembly has asked for 7 to 10 days to review this draft. If the issues are not worked out the assembly will dissolve itself and the whole thing starts all over.
The committee drafting the document had asked for an extension after it failed to reach a compromise by Monday's deadline after months of talks. The new deadline is August 22. Without the extension, the government would have dissolved, requiring new elections in December and starting the process again. Two Shiite officials told The Associated Press earlier Monday that Iraqi politicians had agreed on a draft constitution but delayed a decision on two key issues. The president's office told CNN no such deal had been reached.
Also here on ABCNEWS.
Yep fast is not always good. So now we get seven to ten more days. I've noted that in this part of the world no one agree's until the last minute. Well they've found some more minutes. I expect this will go on right up until the 22nd possibly until the early hours of the 23rd.
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Some people are freaking out about the fact that there will undoubtedly be some deference to Sharia law in their constitution. I don't know why they're so surprised. I've been saying for some time now that it's inevitable. I think we need to reserve opinion until we know three very important things. To what extent women's rights are preserved, how their citizens will be treated in their courts and of course how they do on basic human rights for all.
Regardless, it will be leaps and bounds better than Saddam's "the-rules-are-what-I-make-them-today" way of governing.
We have to remember too that when our Constitution was written there were little or no rights for minorities, women or the powerless, slavery was A-OK, domestic abuse was routinely overlooked and the only people who could vote were property owners. These are a few things we've taken a couple hundred years to overcome. Iraq will already be ahead of us at their beginning.
Posted by: Oyster at August 15, 2005 01:30 PM (fl6E1)
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This is great news. Good luck to them.
Posted by: See-Dubya at August 15, 2005 01:33 PM (2XbYL)
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We also need to remember that the Bill of Rights came a year later. I am curious if the Turkish constitution has similiar 'shout outs' to Sharia. Anyone know?
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 15, 2005 02:59 PM (jPCiN)
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Re the update--we took a while with those federalist papers and such getting it all worked out. So if they need another week to get it right before they get a vote on it, sounds good.
Defense Guy--Attaturk was all about secularizing the Turkish state, and I'd guess he got to the Constitution as well.
As far as this goes its a lot about what people think it means. Britain and Sweden have official established churches, but they're pretty secular societies.
Posted by: See-Dubya at August 15, 2005 03:50 PM (2XbYL)
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My bet is that they will not reach a decision and everything will start all over again. Hate to be a pessimist, just a gut feeling.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 15, 2005 07:15 PM (TBvsM)
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