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April 01, 2006

Jill Carroll Open Thread

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1 Back to issue a mostly full and humble apology to Jill Carroll and her supporters on Jawa. Said she was a Hajib wearing, Ann Arbor/America hater, blah, blah, blah. Easy for me, when she has guns aimed at her head. Sorry, Jill. You look good in jeans and no head gear, and I reserve all judgment until you've had a burger and a beer.

Posted by: Jaibones at April 02, 2006 02:31 AM (wes5d)

2 A search of Jill Carroll's Christian Monitor articles show a lack of outright moonbat activity. However, lets not forget that her careless actions in setting up a meeting with the venerable, or shall I say Sunni politician crossed the line of journalism independence by telegraphing her actions before hand, in violation of several policies. Question, can one become a moonbat merely because of their selfish actions in a war-torn country? And by selfish I mean, lets not forget all those troopers who were looking for her ass, going on raids, conducting patrols, when they could have focused their efforts elsewhere? How many soldiers/marines patrolled the Anbar province on a dark, Baghdad night, looking for Carroll's noble ass, when they could have been focused on insurgents or bomb-making material. Thanks Jill!! Glad your home moonbat by implication or not!!!

Posted by: capster at April 02, 2006 02:50 AM (IARJ7)

3 The bitch is a fraud.

Posted by: Filthy at April 02, 2006 04:43 PM (AvsR8)

4 For someone held captive for 3 months, she sure came out looking healthy. I smell a rat. Not buying her story.

Posted by: Bunkergurl at April 02, 2006 07:53 PM (MgtKq)

5 Thanks for having some sense Bunkergurl; at least I know I'm not completely alone, but that makes just a few of us who can see the truth.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 03, 2006 06:44 AM (0yYS2)

6 Ah the Monday Morning quarterback wingnuts. What is so interesting is how the so called Patriot right addressed Carroll's situation upon her release. The disgusting sexual fantasies with which they framed their remarks. To all the fellows who indulged themselves imagining pornographic humiliations, I say get off your butts and go to Iraq. Become journalists or fight for your country. Then come back and talk about how someone whose friend and colleague was murdered and she held captive for months was a traitor. As an American citizen, I am disgusted with the whole lot of you.

Posted by: barryology at April 03, 2006 07:42 AM (jXKBW)

7 Dressed in traditional garb worn by Islamic women, Christian Science Monitor Free Lance reporter Jill Carroll appeared on television after being released by her Islamic captors after nearly 3 months after being taken hostage by an Islamic Terror group called Â“The Vengance BrigadeÂ”. DonÂ’t get me wrong, I am extremely happy that Carroll was released, but being the inquisitive Jew that I am, I find myself highly suspicious of her story and of her being a hostage. Arab men, Islamic men in particular donÂ’t exactly hold women in very high regard. Under the Taliban in Afganistan, women were forbidden from holding jobs and going to school. Thoughout the Arab world, women are forbidden from leaving the home without a male family member. Honor killings occur frequentlyÂ…Why was Jill Carroll treated with more respect then most Islamic women? Was she really being held against her will or was this a stunt by a Left wing peacenik trying to exploit the Left wing mainstream media for her own purpose? I feel that these are questions that need to be asked. Jill CarrollÂ’s Â”kidnappersÂ” had set a Â“final deadlineÂ” of Feb. 26th for their demands to be met or else they would kill her. The deadline came and went, yet 32 days later she was freed. It would be the second deadline set by her abductors, who have repeatedly said they will kill Carroll if the United States does not release all female prisoners it has in custody in Iraq. Why suddenly did Islamic men all of a sudden care about women prisoners? Why not their comrades that are behind bars for terrorist activities? According to Amnesty International, women in the Arab world deserve more respect and dignity. They are discriminated against and their potential and capabilities are usually ignored. In the home and in the community, in times of war and peace, women are beaten, raped, mutilated and killed with impunity. In past videos featuring Americans who were being held hostage and later executed, they were shown wearing orange jumpsuits. Why was Jill Carroll allowed to dress in a traditional Islamic outfit worn by Arab women?. Several Islamic groups called for her release and were condemning her capture. Where was their cries for help when Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg and Paul Johnson, all of whom were later beheaded by the monsters who kidnapped them? The Muslim world stood silent. But alas, the pleas and the calls for release were loud as hell for Jill Carroll. Why? Am I the only one who questions this? Is she a pawn for the peace movement or possibly a person that has fallen to the Stockholm Syndrome? Let me know. Email me roguejew65@sbcglobal.net and let me know what you think. In the meantime, I am happy that Jill Carroll is on her way home to her family, but I still have to wonder. Did she fake her own kidnapping?

Posted by: Chris at April 03, 2006 10:32 AM (rm2LC)

8 Did anyone notice that she was using her LEFT hand to gesture in the videos? In Arabic/Muslim culture, becasue you wipe your ass with the hand, using it is an insult on par with the American Bird salute or the British reverse victory salute (so that was what Churchill was trying to express in WWII). Anyway one thing POWs in previous wars have done when making bs propaganda is to do some type of visual or verbal sign that what they are saying is pure BS. By using her left hand, she could have been signalling that she doesn't believe a word she is saying and that it is under duress.

Posted by: Privateer6 at April 03, 2006 09:59 PM (W3MO4)

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Jill Carroll Says Video Interviews Taken Under Duress.

You might say? Good job Jill and weÂ’re glad you are safe.

AP via Yahoo : "During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. So I agreed," she said in a statement read by her editor in Boston.
"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not."... ...In the statement, Carroll also disavowed an interview she gave to the party shortly after her release. She said the party had promised her the interview would not be aired "and broke their word."... ..."At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear, I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times," she said. "Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One Â— that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military, and two Â— that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true."

I can certainly understand why Jill might have said those things. We all would too most likely. She did the right thing remember they said they would kill her it she said this after her release. Brave statement.

Another Yahoo link.

More here at the Christian Science Monitor.

Also see LGF no fooling around, In The bullpen and Captain Ed.

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1 Party pooper.

Posted by: Vinnie at April 01, 2006 09:56 PM (/qy9A)

2 Rusty, You called it guy! Thanks for putting the breaks on our cynacism. It's difficult to avoid an instinctive reaction of suspicion, after so many recent deceptions.

Posted by: Mirra at April 01, 2006 11:26 PM (F9FUD)

3 Its so easy to keep a bad taste in the mouth, especially after the previous hostages. Its still important for me to know her priorities when going there. I thought she was there to report on Iraqis suffering, ultimately because of coalition forces? I hope I'm wrong and she was just doing her job as an objective reporter but is it nuts to think that? I'm not ready to judge her a person of integrity, yet. I'm glad she's free. At least, unlike previous hostages she's beginning to set the record straight and call the bad guys (with her) for what they are.

Posted by: Javapuke at April 02, 2006 12:08 AM (NQkft)

4 I don't see why her original motives, if they were indeed motives we wouldn't approve of, should dictate whether or not people crash down upon her now. If in a couple of months she starts writing on how good the terrorists are and how bad Coalition soldiers are, and I doubt she will, then we can crash down upon. As Howie said, now isn't the time and most of us would have said the same things if we thought that would be our ticket out of a box and back to freedom. There have been questionable hostage cases in the past, some that Rusty and I have disagreed upon. This case though, at least in my opinion, was legitimate and from the onset it was clear it was a ransom case. Why are more of the "peace sells" kind taken hostage? I don't know, but I assume it is largely because they are the type that seem to think their opinions are better protection than Marines. Sadly they continue to learn the hard way that our enemies don't care if they agree with them or not, they hate them because they are American and not Muslims. The CPT hostage ordeal is a prime example of that. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think I'd go around Iraq without protection speaking the word of Jesus Christ. And what gives with all the open threads? Has Rusty turned Duncan Black on us?

Posted by: Chad Evans at April 02, 2006 12:50 AM (uimQk)

5 Well, apparently you can fool some of the people all of the time. So her pre-kidnapping diatribes against America were caused by duress too, then? She just realized that nobody gave a shit about her when the world didn't cry over that Christian Peacekeeper dude when he got the chop, so she decided to de-camp while the opportunity was viable. She'll do a book deal, and possibly a made-for-TV movie, and her captors will be freedom fighters while the soldiers who were looking for her will be scum-of-the-earth types. Moonbat is as moonbat does.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 01:30 AM (0yYS2)

6 Dr Rusty, You were right, I was wrong. Sorry, Jill; based on years of conditioning by your fellow Ann Arbor America haters, I was willing to sell you out in a heartbeat. IM: join me in reserving all other judgment until she has had a Bud or two...

Posted by: Jaibones at April 02, 2006 02:35 AM (wes5d)

7 I must admit that I was one of the cynics. I think I was just tired of these hostage frauds. For instance, in the Sgrena case, Italian magistrates are investigating a US soldier for murder, in the case where the Italian agent was killed. And, get this, attempted murder for the wounding of terrorist fundraiser Sgrena. In my opinion, she should be the one on trial. I thought there were some parallels between Sgrena and Carroll. That clearly is not the case. Carroll is not Sgrena.

Posted by: Kate at April 02, 2006 04:19 AM (QKJeY)

8 She was on their side before she got kidnapped, so I don't give a good flying rat's ass about her one way or another. She slept with the enemy, so in my book she's a traitor, and it's too bad they didn't give her the chop too.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 07:37 AM (0yYS2)

9 But IM people fuck up. Could be a life changing experience maybe? She has value. Not let's see what she does with it now.

Posted by: Howie at April 02, 2006 09:29 AM (D3+20)

10 IM, yes, she's a moonbat, but a conservative is nothing but a moonbat who got mugged by reality. Jill Carroll got mugged by reality. There may be hope for her yet.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 02, 2006 10:13 AM (8e/V4)

11 Perhaps we should send a list to the terrorists of whom we all agree should have there heads chopped off.

Posted by: john Ryan at April 02, 2006 12:20 PM (N+r4D)

12 No probably we shoul dnot advocatebeheading anyone no matter how much they might deserve it. Like he guy that confessed to what was it 116? He deserves it but being civilized he should probably just be hanged or shot after a fair and speedy trial of course.

Posted by: Howie at April 02, 2006 08:44 PM (D3+20)

13 Jesus H., I can't believe this. You guys are falling all over yourselves to apologize for a traitor. I have no hope anymore, so I'm preparing myself for the downfall of our nation, which shouldn't be long when even "evil neocons" refuse to call a spade a spade. The moonbats have won the propaganda battle, but it will be a Phyrric victory, because when the muslims and illegals take over, then even their most aredent apologists will be rounded up and killed off. At least that's some small consolation.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 03, 2006 06:43 AM (0yYS2)

14 I would have rather Jill said warÂ’s not my thing IÂ’ll help in the effort in my own way.. Caring for the Iraqi people is good. We need people like Jill and CPT in a way. You canÂ’t win just by war along you have to work with the people. While is with they had not been so naÃƒÂ¯ve and said silly things before hand. She kind of had just who is the bad juys mixed up. No liberals have a place in this war if they want it. What better example of the evil as a liberal like her comes along and they turn on her too. Bad bad press for the enemy this time. IÂ’m sure a lot of people would rather she did not go and cost the man power and intelligence to look for her. But surely some things were learned in the process and when she is debriefed even more will/was learned to tie in with that. I would rather Jill not have got herself into that but like Vinnie says we fight for her right to be a fool too. If she feels she must, she must. LetÂ’s just hope she doesnÂ’t get a wild hair again and the rest learn a good lesson. I don't agree with what she said before but whqat happened sure pust one hell of a dent in that line of thought.

Posted by: Howie at April 03, 2006 07:57 AM (D3+20)

15 I don't agree with everything you said, IM, but you are right about the lack of courage of convictions I see developing on the conservative side. You see, you can't be popular with the press, the Hollywood types, the CofC types, the soft liberal and conservative stooges, or even the hard Left. I see this all the time with parents now trying to be friends with their kids rather than being a parent, which requires control and guidance for children. I think that our country may be lost. I see very few even willing to fight these illegals who come into our country and then proceed to tell us what to do. Between the Democrats, who wish to use this horde to gain power, and the lazy ass Republicans who use this illegal labor for ill gains, I believe this to be an alliance that destroys our nation.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 03, 2006 08:55 AM (rUyw4)

16 As usual JJ, you're right on the money. You're welcome to join me in my fortress in the mountains when the time comes, but apologists shouldn't bother, because food, shelter, and ammo will only be for those with the guts to fight.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 04, 2006 08:33 PM (0yYS2)

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Where I Rebut Jeff Goldsteing AGAIN

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OMFG

Not only is this ridiculous, did you see the shoes he wore to the Oscars?

Atrocious! Get the man some proper footwear!

And that tie! Tres gauche, darlings.

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Jawa Issues Fatwa

As most readers know, your Sith Master recently entertained the prospect of a new job. Imagine the thrill of interviewing for a more challenging and rewarding position only to be let down by being rejected. Denied with a simple, "We're sorry. We've chosen someone else." Okay, fine. Brush it off. Life has its ups and downs and there'll be other opportunities.

But today, guess what? Back channel scuttlebutt has it that your blogging mainstay and candidate was rejected for an academic position because he is a conservative. In fact, the rumor is that The Jawa Report was specifically mentioned as an indicator of your Sith Master's lack of appropriate liberal credentials. Realizing The Jawa Report reflects conservatism and conservatism in academia is tantamount to having the Eboli virus, there was no chance from the get go.

Blogging anonymously provided no protection because someone leaked to the university administration the information about your Sith Master and The Jawa Report. The administration recoiled and totally disregarded such things as qualifications and capabilities. Being a conservative is a deal-breaker in academia.

Therefore, The Jawa Report officially issues a fatwa declaring a war of words against the leaker who is also a blogger. People are already investigating. A field of suspects is being narrowed and you will be found soon. So, declare yourself, you stinking vermin, and let the games begin.

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1 Oh I just said something to the university as a joke. The only reply I got was that they didn't believe they actually interviewed Pat Buchanen.

Posted by: Chad Evans at April 01, 2006 03:31 PM (uimQk)

2 Dr. Shackleford, As always, I will turn my bow in the direction of the sound of cannon fire. A sailor can rarely go wrong if he brings his ship alongside the enemy. Standing by for you to identify a target as hostile. A humble brigantine are we, but standing by to lay aside the scurvy dog. No quarter.

Posted by: CDR Salamander at April 01, 2006 03:48 PM (YEJjq)

3 If that's the case Rusty, you're better off without that job and the morons that would have come with it.

Posted by: Graeme at April 01, 2006 04:34 PM (IhVC3)

4 There is no diversity when it comes to academia. I learned that in the early 90s when a prof made clear his thoughts about the 'evil' Republicans. I used his bigotry against him by spewing such things in a paper that I didn't actually believe and he gave me an "A" for the class. As a student, I fought back the only way I could. Rusty, I hope you find the jerk and bust this wide open.

Posted by: RepJ at April 01, 2006 04:35 PM (y6n8O)

5 Rusty, as we say in Texas, a good old fashioned ass kicking is in order.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 01, 2006 04:44 PM (rUyw4)

6 >>>Realizing The Jawa Report reflects conservatism and conservatism in academia is tantamount to having the Eboli virus, there was no chance from the get go. That's curious. I thought Liberals celebrated diversity.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at April 01, 2006 05:02 PM (8e/V4)

7 Horrible news. I'm so sorry Jawa

Posted by: pka at April 01, 2006 05:04 PM (UA1kS)

8 Yeah,kick some ass, Doc.

Posted by: See-Dubya at April 01, 2006 05:37 PM (Zozmz)

9 I think that really sucks...what kind of a world are we living in. Can you sue? Suing seems to work for everyone else. I think the University needs to be put on notice that they shouldn't discriminate against someone just because they hold conservative political views. It's a free country, isn't it?

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at April 01, 2006 05:42 PM (aH6Zf)

10 Wait, does this mean when most liberals talk about a right to privacy, they really mean some else (like abortion)? I'm shocked.

Posted by: Capp at April 01, 2006 05:45 PM (XgLFc)

11 Have you considered a place like Liberty University? They're relatively unknown, but their debate team is ranked #1 in the country (Harvard is #14). I don't know the caliber of school you currently work at, or was applying to, but you might want to consider some alternative, non-big name schools. Domino's Pizza owner Tom Monaghan just opened Ave Maria University in sunny Naples, FL. It's new, and I'm sure they're searching for a few experienced, qualified professors.

Posted by: Rob at April 01, 2006 06:21 PM (BHl1d)

12 Actually, Harvard dropped to #33 overall. Liberty is still #1. http://www.whitman.edu/rhetoric/ndt/index.htm

Posted by: Rob at April 01, 2006 07:11 PM (BHl1d)

13 Sucks. I'm an academian myself, but since I teach a skills-based course at an obscure school where few qualified people apply, no one seems to really give a rip about my politics. Still, I know how political and backstabbing it can be at schools. Again, sucks, and BTW, I'm new to the blog and don't even know you're real name so it wasn't me. Heck, you could be Dale Gribble for all I know (and just how did his alter-ego ever get a Phd., anyway?)

Posted by: David at April 01, 2006 07:15 PM (wZLWV)

14 Excuse me, "...were applying to...".

Posted by: Rob at April 01, 2006 07:16 PM (BHl1d)

15 You can't get an academic job because of your beliefs, but the unrepentant Taliban ambassador with a fourth-grade education is recruited into Yale for diversity reasons. Go figure.

Posted by: Timbo at April 01, 2006 07:45 PM (u6zaV)

16 I tried to resist they tortured me but finally after many hours of continuous strippers all over me begging and begging and rubbing and rubbing I said it, "Dale Dribble!!!!"

Posted by: Howie at April 01, 2006 07:59 PM (D3+20)

17 Dude, it was Reynolds. He didn't want any blogging competition at UTK.

Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes at April 01, 2006 08:40 PM (XNuZO)

18 As a Democrat and a graduate of the ultimate northeastern liberal university, in Massachusetts no less, allow me to extend my apologies on behalf of the left (whom I really don't speak for because I'm more of a centrist but I digress!) What was done to you was an outrage. Colleges are supposed to be places where debate occurs, and where ideas are debated. It's pretty tough to get that done with one side under-represented. The blogger who leaked your ID should be ashamed of themselves, but at the end of the day, it's the university that should be hanging its head, because the leak should not have mattered. Keep on keepin' on, Dr. R.

Posted by: JoyReid at April 01, 2006 09:08 PM (o1EiK)

19 It will be a sweet day when we can finally hang these scumbags from the very windows of their ivory towers, and it can't come soon enough. I just hope I can get enough rope when I need it; I think there'll be a run on it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 01, 2006 09:52 PM (0yYS2)

20 Why are the left so mean spirited, bitter, back stabbing and full of bile? Is it because they are losing nearly every argument? Have they always been this way? My best to you. My own experience is that everything happens to teach us a lesson, and we ARE stronger after the lesson.

Posted by: Counter Revolutionary at April 01, 2006 10:39 PM (Hr52v)

21 Damn Rusty, that's lame as hell for them (the University) and the rat to do. Stay strong, keep applying, your future success will be like wet farts on the nose of the leaking blogger.

Posted by: MidnightSun at April 01, 2006 11:50 PM (bHQwL)

22 No worries there, IM, I've been stockpiling for years, just waiting... Rusty, obviously this was not the place for you. Good thing you found out BEFORE you signed a contract. You're place is still out there, waiting... for its time.

Posted by: Sly2017 at April 02, 2006 01:44 AM (UADHi)

23 Bite me.

Posted by: CDR Salamander at April 02, 2006 09:45 AM (YEJjq)

24 Here's my reaction. Piece of crap.

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at April 02, 2006 03:14 PM (AxdDu)

25 Must have been Debbie!

Posted by: Sonic at April 02, 2006 08:51 PM (Gsn6c)

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Jawapalooza In Sin City

I'll be in Vegas in early June to attend this.

I won't have time to meet any fellow bloggers though. I'll be too busy either listening to the fine roster of speakers or handing out pamphlets to the tourists on the Strip. Although I may take in a show.

Sorry.

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1 Isn't that when the US Army will detonate the 700-ton bomb?

Posted by: enzo at April 01, 2006 06:44 AM (7BIKb)

2 They'd better be careful or Chimpy will have the CIA turn the JOOOO-built earthquake machine loose on them, or maybe a tsunami or hurricane. In the desert. Yeah, he can do it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 01, 2006 06:47 AM (0yYS2)

3 I don't know, Rusty, that convention sound more like a pukefest to me. But on the bright side you can bone up on your math skills counting all the lies told by that panel of "experts".

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 01, 2006 08:52 AM (rUyw4)

4 Hey JJ, this is kinda OT, but is there any good quail shooting in your neck of the woods? I'm planning a fall quail safari, so I'm open to suggestions.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 01, 2006 09:24 AM (0yYS2)

5 No, IM, the quail have been decimated by fire ants and habitat destruction. The last quail hunt I went on was in Kansas. They were plentiful during my younger days, and I enjoyed hunting quail and doves both. Times have changed for the worse, IM. A real shame.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 01, 2006 10:32 AM (rUyw4)

6 Well that sucks. I remember there used to be lots of quail and grouse habitat here too, but not much anymore. We have tons of geese, doves, and turkeys, but I don't eat geese or doves, and you don't wingshoot turkeys. I guess I'll have to go to one of those big Georgia plantations and pay the price.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 01, 2006 10:36 AM (0yYS2)

7 That errr.. sounds like uhhhh... fun... You know... the kind of fun like... say... sticking pencils up one's urethra...

Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at April 01, 2006 10:38 AM (3smJS)

8 Damn LC! I just got up - turned on the computer - and went straight to Jawa - and the 1st thing I see is this IMAGE you just painted in my mind! Uuurrrgggghhh! Thanks a lot Cannadian buddy!

Posted by: hondo at April 01, 2006 10:44 AM (StM4D)

9 Hey Joe, What are you doing with that Niger yellowcake document in your hand? I'm goin' down to expose my old lady, I caught her messin' 'round with some more WMD plans.

Posted by: MidnightSun at April 01, 2006 11:54 PM (bHQwL)

10 Sorry Hondo, it just seemed almost as pleasant as attending these events in Las Vegas.

Posted by: LC CanForce 101 at April 02, 2006 12:57 AM (3smJS)

11 Hey Joe, What are you doing with that Niger yellowcake document in your hand? I'm goin' down to expose my old lady, I caught her messin' 'round with some more WMD plans. Posted by MidnightSun at April 1, 2006 11:54 PM

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 01:31 AM (0yYS2)

12 Hey Joe, What are you doing with that Niger yellowcake document in your hand? I'm goin' down to expose my old lady, I caught her messin' 'round with some more WMD plans. Posted by MidnightSun at April 1, 2006 11:54 PM Well. All rightey then.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 01:32 AM (0yYS2)

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She Never Was All That Hot Anyway

I just don't admire Angelina Jolie anymore. Really, she's just doesn't do it for me any longer.

Besides, she's not really good gay, she's only part-time good gay.

It's time to get past superficial things and admire the true champions of good gay.

Mmm....Rosie O'Donnell....

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ACLU Sues in Support of 'Creative' 'Non-Threatening' Student Poet

From First Coast News in Brunswick, Georgia:

ROME, GA (AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia filed a federal lawsuit Monday against Murray County schools for expelling an eighth-grader for writing a poem on school violence.
The student, whose name was not released, was suspended and expelled last year after he showed a notebook full of poems to his English teacher, according to an ACLU statement.
"Kids are being raised in a society where there are violent images around them, not just in movies but in the news," said ACLU attorney Beth Littrell. "Their writing may reflect that and the school should not be punishing them for their creative expression unless it's truly threatening."

The poem is not included in the story, but Jay at Stop the ACLU received the poem in question in an email: more...

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1 Call me an old fuddy-duddy, but this kind of poetry for a child denotes a psychological problem. He's what, 13 or 14? How will the ACLU plead the case? That he has a right to express himself and leave it at that? He needs help.

Posted by: Oyster at April 01, 2006 07:23 AM (YudAC)

2 As long as he's contributing to the downfall of civilization in some small way, they'll back him. Liberals all need killing.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 01, 2006 08:01 AM (0yYS2)

3 And any person who would defend this little creep needs help, too. The ACLU, well, I think IM pointed out the motivation of that organization. Destroy society as we know it and remake it into what? It boggles the mind.

Posted by: jesusland joe at April 01, 2006 08:57 AM (rUyw4)

4 in high school i've written some stuff in when I was in a funk or depressed mood.. (and who hasn't gotten depressed a time or two in high school) but NEVER turned it in as an assignment.. I would hope to think that most other students could use disern that too.. if they can't or if that is the tamest poem that kid turned in, then yes, he/she could use help or a 'safe' place to talk..

Posted by: The Other Dave at April 01, 2006 08:58 AM (W0Vif)

5 Since when is school instruction limited to the 3 R's? The teaching of acceptable societal behavior and limits (threats are not acceptable or tolerable)should be supported by legal standards not reproached by them.

Posted by: justa at April 01, 2006 09:41 AM (XU9K/)

6 Imagine what would happen if someone had tried to intervene months prior with that pair in Columbine. Same story I suppose. "Truly threatening"???? Truly??? How does one quantify that?

Posted by: hondo at April 01, 2006 10:51 AM (StM4D)

7 I taught Jr. High, and I can't imagine any of my students writing something like that. It's simply not age-appropriate "creative expression." I hope the teachers aren't so LLL that they won't oppose this kids' re-admission.

Posted by: amyc at April 01, 2006 02:10 PM (d4MD5)

8 ugh apostrophe fault

Posted by: amyc at April 01, 2006 02:11 PM (d4MD5)

9 Destroy society as we know it and remake it into what? A feudal, hegemonic, communist dystopia, ran by the party, of course. I've read Marx, Lenin, et al, and the unifying theme in all their works is that Western civilization must be destroyed and replaced with a "workers paradise", wherein the few live in parasitic splendor off of the labor of the many, with no way for one of the many to become one of the few. In short, communism is a twisted form of feudalism. Socialists and muslims are the blood enemies of civilization, and must be killed if we're going to save it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 07:43 AM (0yYS2)

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