When I was in D.C. for Jawapalooza East I kept seeing this BORF tag everywhere. So I says to Leopold Stotch, "Who's BORF."

"Dude, you are so out of if."

I guess I'm not cool. Anyway, uber-tagger BORF is about to get sent to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. I don't think they have conjugal visits where BORF is going..... more...

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi forces thwarted a triple suicide attack on Baghdad's Green Zone government compound on Thursday, killing two bombers before they reached a checkpoint and capturing one alive, a U.S. military spokesman said.

Police guarding the checkpoint spotted what they identified as a suicide bomber driving toward them during the morning rush hour, Brigadier General Donald Alston said. They opened fire, and the bomb went off before reaching the checkpoint.

Two other bombers, strapped with explosives, then ran toward them but were gunned down. One survived and, after an Iraqi explosives expert defused his bomb, was taken into custody.

Crud, I have to get back to work. Discuss amongst yourselves.

ETADPU - Ok, back. Two observations that amazed me about this story.

MargaReuterville actually printed good news about Iraq
Google News actually put it on the front page (though probably gone now).

I am hereby dubbing these 3 terrorists as "Islamotards." An Islamotard is a sort-of-but-not-quite-there Jihadi.

They join their other Islamotard brethren:

Richard "Close Cover Before Striking Match" Reid.
John "Walker, Taliban Ranger" Lindh.
Jose "The Toxic Avenger" Padilla.

And many, many more.

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Apparently, the terrorists who escaped from the Bagram detention center are now in the southern part of Afghanistan.

From Reuters:

Four Arab al Qaeda militants who escaped from a heavily fortified U.S. detention center in Afghanistan this week reached a Taliban haven safely on Thursday, a spokesman for the guerrilla movement said.

"The Taliban found and recovered four al-Qaeda mujahideen (holy warriors) this morning," Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi said from an undisclosed location.

Hakimi, whose information has often proved unreliable, declined to say where the escapees were, but added: "They are far away from Kabul. They are safe and now taking rest."

The Pakistani-based Afghan Islamic Press news agency quoted another, unnamed, Taliban spokesman as saying the men were in the south of the country. "They are alright. They had some bruises to their feet ... they are being given medicines."

Anyway, the escapees have been named and they come from four different countries, Syrian Abdullah Hashimi, Kuwaiti Mahmoud Ahmad Mohammad, Saudi Mahmoud Alfatahni, and Libyan Mohammad Hassan.

In the same report, a member of the Taliban leadership council, Mullah Dadullah, told Al Jazeera television that the group possessed anti-aircraft weapons and was seeking to obtain even more powerful arms.

Would it be possible to get spokesman Hakimi back on the line for a lengthy chat?

Companion post at Interested-Participant.

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Thought I would take a few minutes and open for discussion this item. It seems some in Iran are not taking the elections there lying down. Most people expect that since that election the minimal reforms and freedoms there will be reversed. LetÂ’s not forget that in their society speech can get you killed or imprisoned. Here we pretty much get to speak our minds. There dissent can be deadly.

"WASHINGTON - As Tehran University students clashed with police in Iran yesterday during demonstrations demanding the release of political prisoners, President Bush, from Washington, joined the growing movement calling for the release of dissident journalist Akbar Ganji."

Dr Demarche has a good post on the fact that not everyone enjoys the freedom to speak that we have. And it don't come cheap as earlier posts today show.

Also Pejman Yousefzadeh apparently an Iranian national who bloggs thanks President Bush for supporting Akbar Ganji.

For those of you out there who hate our President I ask you one thing. Do you really think the islamofacists would allow you to speak such things about the President of Iran should you find yourself there tomorrow? The fact that you can read my speech is a fairly recent development. Not too many years ago all of our speech would have been below the radar. Silenced by the powers that be to keep us in our place. Now it's as easy as clicking post.

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[UPDATE 7/15--El Nashar arrested in Egypt]

Two more suspects identified in the London bombings. Add visas given to Middle Eastern professors and graduate students to my list of immigration reforms. One of the suspects is a college instructor, Magdi El-Nashar from Egypt. [UPDATE: Suspect also went to graduate school at North Carolina State. Scroll down for info...] Also, co-author Mike Pechar reveals the identity of London's fourth mass-murder--and he's Jamaican. This means he was not the son of Pakistani immigrants, as the other three were, and that he was a most probably a convert to Islam. I'm thinking a few puffs of the ganja would have been a good thing in this guys case. Never heard of a Rasta terrorist before......

Lindsey Germaine, Jamaican-born, lived in Buckinghamshire.

[UPDATE: He is not the mastermind, only a suspect] According to other sources. A chemistry instructor at Leeds University has been implicated as the possibe as the mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings, but the fact that the bomb-making materials were found in his apartment puts him squarely at the center of the conspiracy.] The way the article is written, it sounds as if he may have been a graduate student but I'm not sure how the British University system works exactly. The Sun:

A CHEMISTRY lecturer linked to the Leeds bomb factory was being hunted last night by cops trying to trace the mastermind of the 7/7 atrocity.

Egyptian Magdi El-Nashar, 33, rented a flat at 18 Alexandra Grove in the suburb of Burley.

The lecturer — also taking a PhD biochemistry course at Leeds University — vanished days before the London outrage.

He is thought to have returned to Egypt, where al-Qaeda have a strong base.

At least two of the suicide bombers who caused the carnage have been connected to the flat, 200 yards from Leeds Grand mosque.

Forensic experts were searching the house in which the flat stands yesterday — and are thought to have found explosives. Anti-terror cops are also trying to trace ANOTHER suspected prime mover of the London attacks.

POLICE believe they have identified the man who planned the London bombings.

It has also emerged that one of his recruits - Edgware Road bomber Mohammed Sadique Khan - was a teaching assistant in a Leeds primary school.
The leader of the terrorist cell is believed to be in his 30s and of Pakistani origin. He arrived at a British port last month and is understood to have left the country the day before four suicide bombers murdered at least 53 people.

Security sources believe he has been involved in previous terrorist operations and has links with al-Qa'ida followers in the US. It is believed he visited the bombers in Leeds and identified targets. Security chiefs say he is also likely to have schooled his recruits on how to trigger their rucksack bombs almost simultaneously.

UPDATE: Tim at Opinion Bug and Confederate Yankee tell me that Magdy el-Nashar also studied at NCSU in Raleigh, NC. Do you think he dropped out because the local hotties at the Releigh Hooters offended him? Via Opinion Bug this from NBC-17:

An Egyptian-born academic being sought by London police as part of their investigation into last week's terrorist bombings spent a semester at North Carolina State University, school officials said Thursday.

Another UPDATE: So, a college professor/grad student (haven't sorted that one out yet--any Brits care to help distinguish?) is at the center of the conspiracy to murder civilians and terrorize London--pretty bad. IT. GETS. WORSE. Malkin on freakin fire--Government funded youth center hub of jihadi activities, tie group together. Your tax dollars at work!

And yet another update: It looks like he was a graduate student who also lectured. Something I am all too familiar with. DC Examiner:

In a statement Thursday, Leeds University said el-Nashar enrolled in October 2000 to do biochemical research, sponsored by the National Research Center in Cairo, Egypt. It said he earned a doctorate May 6.

"We understand he was seeking a postdoctorate position in the U.K.," the university said. "His visa was updated by the Home Office earlier this year. He has not been seen on the campus since the beginning of July.

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Good news from Iraq. It looks like we may have got the man responsible for the murder of Egyptian Ambassador Ihab al-Sherif. That's two al Qaeda cell leaders caught in the last week. Off with their heads!

AP:

The U.S. military on Thursday announced the capture of two key members of Iraq's most-feared terror group, including one suspected in the kidnap-slaying of an Egyptian envoy and attacks on senior diplomats from Pakistan and Bahrain.

Khamis Farhan Khalaf Abd al-Fahdawi, known as Abu Seba, was arrested last Saturday following operations in the Ramadi area west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a statement.

He was accused of involvement in the abduction and killing of Egypt's top envoy in Iraq and attacks on Pakistani and Bahraini diplomats earlier this month.

"Seba served as a senior lieutenant of al-Qaida in Iraq, and is suspected in attacks against diplomats of Bahrain, Pakistan and the recent murder of Egyptian envoy, Ihab Salah al Din Ahmad al-Sherif," the U.S. statement said. "Al-Qaida ordered the attacks against Arab diplomats in an effort to reduce support for the government of Iraq according to a military spokesman."

Another al-Qaida in Iraq lieutenant, Abdullah Ibrahim Mohammed Hassan al Shadad, or Abu Abdul Aziz, was captured Sunday, the command said. It said Abu Abdul Aziz was a top lieutenant of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and served as operations officer for the group.

The statement said Abu Abdul Aziz was cooperating with coalition forces.

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You ever wonder why moonbats like Farrakhan can keep a national profile? It's because they have corporte sponsorship. Not always directly, but indirectly. It seems that the Jew-hating lunatic spoke at a Jesse Jackson event last year sponsored, in part, by Toyota.

Maybe Toyota ought to forget the middle man and just hire ol' Farrakhan to be their spokesman? The cars should be a big seller in the Middle East. The National Policy Center's press release on Toyota's idiocy is here.

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There is another article up at Our Life discussing the Center for Purposeful Living.

This story is from an anonymous source and is certainly one of interest. I highly recommend reading it when you get the chance.

If you haven't had time to read my first article on this subject then please try and make the time to read it, The Cult that is Human Service Alliance and the Center for Purposeful Living.

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Pfc. Eric Paul Woods

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1 Now I'm really mad! That man died for a pack of lies told by Blair and Bush. He was sent to Iraq against his wishes, ordered to do things he didn't want to do and was ruthlessly killed by nationalist/jihadi thugs. What are the troops doing over there anyway? Seems the locals keep killing them at the rate of two a day. Is it worth it that three-year old boys grow up fatherless because of BUSH? I say hell no and all you chickenhawks who cheer on this bloody spectacle are guilty of blood treason and should be down low ashamed of yourselves! All you Klansman Roosters and Gimps and Thanoses and assorted thuggish genocidal fantasizers should join the goddamned army or shut the hell up!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 05:47 AM (ScqM8)

2 P.s. Klanrooster - knock it off with your goddamned grunting death threats and "raghead hunts" - all hot air from a raggedy man. You too "America cleansing" Gimprobulus Necrophilious - stick to your strange games and leave the Muslims alone. There's been enough killing without you numbnuts adding to the toll.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 07:24 AM (ScqM8)

3 "Why would any mother who has felt the pain of her sonÂ’s needless death want any more bloodshed and heartbreak? I donÂ’t want any other mothers, American or Iraqi, to go through what I am going through. The only way to honor my sonÂ’s death and to make it count for something is to bring our troops home, NOW!" Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif. is founder of Gold Star Families for Peace, www.GSFP.org There are plenty of heroes right here at home trying to end this madness. http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=57691

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 08:10 AM (0PbLu)

4 Did this mother think her son was joining the Weeblos? Did she think that there was absolutely no chance her son might be killed in battle, doing his job? What does she think the guns are for? Endless drill for...something? If she's against any son or soldier ever dying, I wonder if she tried her damnedest to prevent him from enlisting to begin with. I truly feel bad for her, but I think she's blinded by her grief.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 08:19 AM (x+5JB)

5 YBP - no, Cindy Sheehan is FRIGGIN MAD because her son who had good intentions was sucked into a war BASED ON A PACK OF LIES. LIES told by Bush and Blair. She lost her son to absolute cold-hearted bastards who love oil more than human life.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 08:57 AM (ScqM8)

6 Here, here!

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 08:59 AM (0PbLu)

7 P.S. write Cindy Sheehan if you chickenhawk mf's dare - she will make you wish you were subject to Greyrooster's wild mountain boar treatment by the time she is done verbally frying your greasy asses in the fire of her wrath.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 09:01 AM (ScqM8)

8 DSM: To say her son was "sucked into a war" doesn't show the man much respect. It makes it seem like he was some dipshit who was in the wrong war at the wrong time instead of a patriotic soldier fighting for his country's interests, whether its for oil, to oust Saddam, or to kill terrorists. Do soldiers choose whether they want to fight or not? He was being obedient to the Commander-in-Chief, something you fail to grasp. And harrassing his grieving, misguided mother is not the prudent thing to do.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 09:13 AM (x+5JB)

9 Greg: I won't expect a "Here, here!" from you.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 09:14 AM (x+5JB)

10 It's impossible to honor even the fallen dead, as Leftists politicize even that. Is there anything that a Leftist won't politicize? You're disgusting.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 09:25 AM (8e/V4)

11 YBP, Soldiers, their parents and the rest of us, do not expect that they will be required to fight in wars founded upon lies. They deserve better. And when they come home, they have every reason to expect that the VA will provide care as needed. They earned it. When our government lies to us, they have broken the social contract that binds us and they deserve to be replaced by a new government. Coming on the heals of the 4th of July, a look at the Declaration of Independence might be in order: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to Alter or to Abolish it, and to Institute New Government" Here, here! (For YBP)

Posted by: Greg at July 14, 2005 09:29 AM (0PbLu)

12 There is no point in even trying to rebut Downing Street Memo. He is oblivious to fact that he insults both your intelligence and that of every single serving member of the armed forces with his transparent lies. Unlike DSM, the members of the military and their families are literate. This means we can READ. We can READ Congress' resolution authorizing force, in which they quoted many reasons for going to war, not just WMDs, among which was clear and convincing evidence that Saddam was financing, harboring, and training terrorists. The resolution also mentions the presence of al Qaeda in Iraq BEFORE THE WAR. But DSM doesn't want you to remember that men like Sen. Rockafeller and John Kerry also made that argument on the Senate floor. Imagine that... We can also read the SSCI report and the British Butler report. Their conclusions are quite interesting - namely that NO ONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION LIED. But DSM doesn't want you to know that either. Because he's an asshat.

Posted by: Cassandra at July 14, 2005 09:29 AM (eKdAq)

13 Carlos:'It's impossible to honor even the fallen dead, as Leftists politicize even that.' And you don't, Carlito? What is the purpose of this string? Did you politicize 9-11? Did we ram through the Patriot Act on the basis of politicization? And on and on. You have only one eyeball, your right eyeball. Try facing backwards for a few seconds. YBP:'And harrassing his grieving, misguided mother is not the prudent thing to do.' The mother has her own political organization. She WANTS my support and YOURS!

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 09:36 AM (0PbLu)

14 cassandra, You seem to think that DSM and I are Democrats. We are not. We see the Republican and Democratic parties as a venomous two-headed serpentine organism. We pissed and moaned when Clinton was president just as you did. But now, when Bush is president you betray yourself. Hypocracy thy name is cassandra and carlos, etc.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 09:42 AM (0PbLu)

15 And you don't, Carlito? What is the purpose of this string? greg, no, I don't. And the purpose of this string is to honor the fallen dead. No further comments are necessary.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 09:42 AM (8e/V4)

16 Greg et al.: The soldier obviously choose the path of joining up and going to war rather than "Alter or to Abolish it, and to Institute New Government." As for the mother wanting my support, she ain't gonna get it, because I think she's very wrong.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 09:43 AM (x+5JB)

17 No further comments are necessary. You don't control the commentary Carlos. YBP:'Greg et al.: The soldier obviously choose the path of joining up and going to war rather than "Alter or to Abolish it, and to Institute New Government." He expected that his government would not lie to him. They did. I've grown weary of this subject, we're going around in circles now. Let us honor the dead and the living. No more lies.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 09:48 AM (0PbLu)

18 The you should STFU greg, because the lies are coming from you.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:03 AM (jPCiN)

19 >>>"You don't control the commentary Carlos." Yes, I do. You may continue to post, as I have now allowed you to do so.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 10:04 AM (8e/V4)

20 Hey Carlos, I think YBP sums up the problem when he honors the dead soldier by calling him a "dipshit". Nice, very nice.

Posted by: Max at July 14, 2005 10:08 AM (HFKAk)

21 "To say her son was 'sucked into a war' doesn't show the man much respect. It makes it seem like he was some dipshit who was in the wrong war at the wrong time instead of a patriotic soldier fighting for his country's interests, whether its for oil, to oust Saddam, or to kill terrorists." Max: Comprehension skills issues? Read the post again.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 10:29 AM (x+5JB)

22 Ahem..... Note the fact that people who may disagree with the President and Mr. Blair fight and die every day for all of us. This man deserves respect and Honor for that just like everyone else. I know some of you believe the entire war was built on lies. This brave man did his duty. See just like the other thread it's not so much about supporting the government it's about the people. Brits who may have disagreed with the current situation were murdered by terrorists. They do not distinguish between liberal and conservative or Libertarian, they see Kufar. I've not noticed the terrorist saying if we stop they will, in fact I am pretty much sure they will find another excuse to kill. Maybe not lies but maybe a case of doing the best you can and being wrong on a couple points. This assumption that it has some evil motivation bothers me. I don't trust the government any farther than I can throw it but it's all we have and we are at war. Like it or not or how it started to support those on the left side who are fighting you have to support the man they work for. You disgrace their sacrafice for our right to voice dissent or agreement. Talking about lies and attacking the President does not get anyone home any faster. Not even those who agree with you but have chosen to do their duty. Also to expect total truth and openness from any government is infantile. Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other kinds of government. Easy greg big fella. Carlos: WTF? angry: a crock of crap if I've ever read one. My condolences to the Family of this man and my thanks for their sacrafice so that we can all make fools of ourselves. Cassandra : Amen.

Posted by: Howie at July 14, 2005 10:46 AM (D3+20)

23 My condolonces to the family of this brave man. His mother can say whatever the hell she wants during this horrible time for her.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:53 AM (jPCiN)

24 Yeah, spelling isn't always my strong suit. PIMF.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:54 AM (jPCiN)

25 You piece of shit leftards just need to be taken out and shot.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 11:19 AM (0yYS2)

26 I have read almost all the entries and comments made to this article and let me tell you I'm disgusted with how there are so many bleeding heart liberals people there truly are in the US. Why don't you get off these chat places and do your duty to your country and sign up and fight the cause. There is always going to be War in the world and unfortunately death is what comes with it. It truly doesnÂ’t matter why this war is being fought by the USA or any other country for that fact, whether it is based on "lies" or truths I would say a good portion of our military over there believes in the cause and the people back home need to shut up or put out. And yes this is coming from a proud Marine Corps wife whose hubby is due in the Sandbox in the next couple of months. Yes we do have children. When someone joins the military they do know that there is always a chance that they will die due to combat. I for one hold my head high and I still will if it's God's will to take my hubby's life while there. I'm so sick of hearing and reading all these blogs about Bush and any other persons that are responsible for this war. Just shut up and move on this is life in the world. Deal with it.

Posted by: Rebecca at July 14, 2005 11:46 AM (6W0U9)

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Posted by: Rebecca at July 14, 2005 11:49 AM (6W0U9)

28 One more thing that i forgot to add. I'm truly sorry for this woman's loss and for her child she is in my prayers

Posted by: Rebecca at July 14, 2005 11:50 AM (6W0U9)

29 Hmmm. All Quiet on the Left Front.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 12:44 PM (x+5JB)

30 I have to disagree with Greg and DSM, I do expect our government to "always lie" to us. That is why I believe we should let them meet as little as possible. We all know that lawyer's lie, and that most of Congress are lawyers, lawyers = liars, Congress = lawyers, Congress = liars. As for anyone who "volunteers" to join the military, they gamble with their lives when they do. As long as the CnC says go, then they have no choice but to go. So although I honor the sacrifice of the service member, I can not condemn Bush for it. But I also think, like that of Greg, that we do owe all service members, past, present and future, services and care from the VA. As for those who are drafted, which has not been done for awhile, they may have a claim against the government who drafts them. the VA. co

Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2005 01:40 PM (Gqhi9)

31 Ignore the "the VA. co" Did not see that sneak in.

Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2005 01:54 PM (Gqhi9)

32 Greg, DSM, YBP, I volunteered. 6 Years in the Marines to show for it and never regreted a moment. (Well except for the marriage). Nobody goes in expecting to die. But they did go in, unlike many, who still stand on the side, and cast dispersions. Respect the honored dead. It is the civilized thing to do.

Posted by: Kstumpf at July 14, 2005 08:59 PM (aJzE5)

33 "Respect the honored dead. It is the civilized thing to do." Kstumpf: Please quote me where I have done otherwise.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 15, 2005 06:48 AM (x+5JB)

34 Kstumpf, We may of not joined thinking we would die, but I know that when I joined (once in the Army and once in the Marine Corps), that there was a chance I could die.

Posted by: Butch at July 15, 2005 07:33 AM (Gqhi9)

35 All you asshats screaming "CHICKENHAWK, GO SERVE" need to immediately report to Baghdad as HUMAN SHIELDS since you're so "concerned" about Iraqis and our troops (allegedly). Maybe you can volunteer to jump on IED's or tackle suicide bombers to protect those you're so worried about. Or hell, how 'bout volunteering to wear a bomb vest and go to the WH or Pentagon and prove how committed to the cause you are. Any volunteers?

Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 15, 2005 09:12 AM (8DwXG)

36 Such into war? Not knowing what was going on or what could happen. That would make a pitiful sodier at best. I always knew why I was there. My son knows why he is there. Honor, duty, morals. Shame some would go to war without knowing these values. Who failed to teach them? I taught my children. When my children and many of the neighborhood children reached a certain age/time. I always spent some time with them. The were fixing to leeve boyhood and become men. So we sat down over a cold beer and discussed what every boy should know before he can become a man. They all understood, this like responsibility, protecting those less fortunate that you. The code of manhood thats says those THAT CAN MUST. Because those that can't can't. You know what you have inside and what you must to with it. It guess some missed that speech. Pity. I always seen to it that many of the local boys didn't miss it. None of the local boys sidestep there duty to their family, communities and country. Some have died, some have been wounded rather bably. A bunch of blow hards from other places may have in there thoughts but they have never seen the honor and respect our returning soldiers get. After the parties are over a good job is assured and certain other things are majacially done. You ACLu, liberal, America hating, Bush haters son of a bitches would'nt understand. Because you havent got it in you hearts. Never been here. Just a bunch of nerds behinds a keyboard. Remember. The Gregs, Butches. Downing Street Morons on this blog are human trash. Losers all their lives and would like you to followe that loser cowardly pick up the pieces dialogue. They deserve death. As this Islamofacist terrorist cowartly thing continues more and more patriots will call for their deaths. We will take care of them. Much sooner than anyone believes. It is up to you young men to do what real Americans have been doing for centuries. Kicking ass for America. Go do your job with pride. We got your back. This time for sure. I know this America boys always do well.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 18, 2005 11:36 PM (CBNGy)

37 Downing Street Moron: Gotcha: Candyass

Posted by: greyrooster at July 19, 2005 01:01 AM (CBNGy)

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OK, so who didn't fall in love with the Parminder Nagra character in Bend it Like Beckham? (If you didn't you're feakin' gay, man.) She's now a regular on ER, by the way. I know she's precisely the sort of tomboy that used to get my heart thumping when I was a ne'r-do-well kid in HS and College. (I mean, girly girls are "OK," but give me a girl who can kick a football or run a 100 meter dash any time.)

So having become susceptible to English Pakistani culture through such a sympathetic portrayal it's not all that comforting to see cute Jess's extended family as the perpetrators of the recent London bombings. [Note: Jess's family were Sikh rather than Muslim, as a reader embarassingly points out. See updates below for thoughts on how this changes the thesis.] And I imagine it's no easier for my UK brethren, who must have been similarly enthralled. I do not think that Islam is, by definition, a pathological religion. But I think some elements of Islamic culture might be pathological, and there is a "dirtly little secret" that is rarely discussed, except by an old friend of mine on a new blog called Jefferson State. An excerpt that's liable to ellicit a fatwa [with commentary]: more...

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My grandfather, a Marine killed in the Pacific theatre during WWII, is buried in the Punchbowl. He and his fallen brothers are joined by five heroes of the Afghanistan campaign. I am thankful for their sacrifice and proud of their service. God speed and rest in peace.

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1 Their deaths mean something. The quote 'every man dies, not every man truly lives' comes to mind when I think of the fallen dead.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 09:57 PM (8e/V4)

2 Better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know neither victory nor defeat.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 10:59 PM (0yYS2)

3 Semper Fidelis encapsulates what we all think ...

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at July 13, 2005 11:54 PM (oldnN)

4 Does this include all the Iraqis who got killed from the PACKS OF LIES that Bush told?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 05:49 AM (ScqM8)

5 My Grandfather was shot in the neck in WWII, but survived. His brother, my Great Uncle Percy Stevens, died in the Battle of the Bulge. My g-g-g-g-great grandfather, Josiah Hatcher Baugh, was wounded in the thigh in the Battle of Cowpens in the Revolutionary War. He never had the bullet (musket ball?) removed and died in later years. Two other ancestors were instrumental in capturing two miscreants who ran amok killing people and robbing them immediately after the Civil War and hung them in Mississippi. We have many interesting ancestors.

Posted by: Oyster at July 14, 2005 05:55 AM (YudAC)

6 War kills and is good for NOTHING

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 14, 2005 08:58 AM (ScqM8)

7 "War kills and is good for NOTHING" Well, it's good for KILLING.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 09:16 AM (x+5JB)

8 Words kill as well. I have some Yin for your Yang DSM, If you continue to grind your blade,on the stone of hatred, the edge will be come a dull as your wit. War stopped Hitler, Saddam, Idi Amin, Musolini, Tojo, The Ottoman Turks, The Mongols, Huns, and even Moslems. The fear of losing war halted the spread of Communism, and Keeps China in check. It also ended the genocide in the Balkans. In fact, it is the threat of the horrors of war that enable people to consider peace before war.

Posted by: Kstumpf at July 14, 2005 09:38 AM (GImrl)

9 DSM is a childish git who adds nothing. Isn't it way past time to ban his ass? This is the 2nd 'memorial' thread I have seen him pissing on today.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:10 AM (jPCiN)

10 Rusty, I'm all for freedom of speech, as you know, but may I suggest a policy of banning people who shit in memorial threads like DSM and greg are doing.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 10:17 AM (8e/V4)

11 No one is pissing on memorial threads. How dare you suggest so.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:14 AM (Y6Yy8)

12 Carlos:"I'm all for freedom of speech, as you know, but may I suggest a policy of banning people who shit in memorial threads like DSM and greg are doing." How did I dishonor the dead? By quoting a grieving mother who lost her son? My hope is that we can reduce the number of war dead to zero. In so doing, I honor our soldiers and humanity. You disappoint me today Carlos. You've gone rabid on me. It must be the Texas sun. Have a drink. I'm stinking drunk on vodka. Let me fill your glass so we can drink to better times.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:24 AM (Y6Yy8)

13 Perhaps it's none of my business because this isn't my blog, but I too have to wonder why one who blatantly demands reasoning and respect while they insult you and shit on your carpet doesn't get banned. Just an observation. No offense, but I honestly have enjoyed most of the time I've visited here and wish to thank you for your hospitality. Yet, I'm thinking of going elsewhere for "reasoned" discourse even if it's dissenting. This has really gotten out of hand and way too much time is wasted countering Greg's and DSM's constant badgering and inanities that escalate into disgusting insults about mothers and sisters. I get a little peeved at a couple other people here and wish they'd tone down their talk a bit, but at least they're simply giving an opinion, not spreading known lies, wild conspiracies and blatant disrespect for just about everyone.

Posted by: Oyster at July 14, 2005 11:36 AM (fl6E1)

14 Lostrova(?), Chin Chin, Salute, Down the Hatch, Here's Mud in Your Eye, One for the Road, I'm Even, Let's Get Odd, Roll Another One, etc.! "Can't we all get along", The Prophet, Rodney King. Gluteus, I'm going to kick your dainty ass, from here to Dallas. How do you find the pussy on the morbidly obese Gluteus Maximus? Roll him in flour and look for the wet spot.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:42 AM (Y6Yy8)

15 When I was banned, Rusty posted on the subject of Muslims bleeding sheep by slitting their throats while they were still alive. Oyster replied, 'I think I'm getting sick'. Having run cattle for many years in Texas, I went to Oyster's blog and made an innocent post, declaring him to be a 'city slicker' and explaining that when cattle are butchered, they are knocked out with a pneumatic piston, raised up by their hind quarters aND their throats are slit so they can be blead while their hearts still beat. Any farm boy knows this, just ask Howie, he'll tell you. It's the same thing for pigs. Oyster freaked out, claiming I was 'polluting' his web site. He clearly over reacted. I think he's a Vegan. Pay him no mind. Oyster, if you don't like my posts, don't read them. Have a stiff drink and chill out.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 11:53 AM (Y6Yy8)

16 "My hope is that we can reduce the number of war dead to zero." In times of war, this would be difficult indeed. I would say that your goal is to have this war called a mistake and cease to be (along with Bush). BTW, olive or onion in that martini?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 12:26 PM (x+5JB)

17 greg, you don't show up at a funeral and start ranting to everybody how the guy died for nothing and how he was just a big dupe. You would be kicked out on your ass-- jst as you should on a thread to commerate the fallen dead.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 12:35 PM (8e/V4)

18 Greg maybe boozing and blogging don't mix well. Greg can at times be reasoned with and has been banned before. Many of you fall for his bait and try to argue with him and then well it all goes to crap. For sure if he gets too ornery he will loose my support as well but as a long standing character here I've cut him some slack. I've stuck my neck out for him twice now and so has YBP. I think he has very little slack left. If greg chooses to get himself banned again his mission will suffer because he will have no place to express it. I don't disagree with you Carlos on this one just took me a few tries to see where y'all had went. Now angry there is no reasoning with him even if you are nice but he demonstrates his foolishness well enough on his own without the rest of us having to point that out. If you see comments that are "over the line" and deserve to be taken down email me or Rusty. Carlos the only thing that has been bothering me about you is the R rated spelled out profanity. Others take the time to put it in code. Greg has been and always will be greg. To argue with him is just not going to work. Also for angry I would hate to go through my whole life angry. Got to suck to be you. You will never change a single mind with that drivel you post. Entertain maybe but actually accomplish anything no. So far today some strong comments. Some stupid ones. Some may have been a bit off for the thread they were on. Pretty normal. greg is worrying the heck out of me I sense he lacks inhibition today. Please greg put down the booze or the keyboard one or the other. And yes butchering is gross that is why I avoid it at all costs if I can but greg has the process pretty much down. Don't foget to tie off the rectum before you gut the whole deal carefully. Yuck good eatin but hard work. You tend to appreciate a cow or pig more while eating if you knew it and cared for it killed it and butchered it. Ours are like big ass pets until freezer time. Greg has been warned I hope he gets it but it's up to him. We have all bent over backwards for him. If he chooses to disrespect our hospitality and continue I'm sure Rusty will pull out that banning sabre.

Posted by: Howie at July 14, 2005 02:14 PM (D3+20)

19 dude, if the blog moderators, or even fellow bloggers are bothered by profanity I have no problems whatsoever with that. I'm not emotionally attachment to my potty mouth. I'll spell it in code. Re commerative threads, it's my opinion that they should be politics-free zones, like funerals. If we Americans can't agree even on that then I truly weep for this country.

Posted by: Carlos at July 14, 2005 03:19 PM (8e/V4)

20 Carlos--Not quite sure which comments Howie was referring to. I don't think that you were the one who wanted to roll IM in flour, were you???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 03:28 PM (x+5JB)

21 referring to me IM:'You need your guts spilled, you subhuman scumbag. Posted by Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 02:46 PM

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:13 PM (j6I6j)

22 Referring to me IM:'You piece of shit leftards just need to be taken out and shot. Posted by Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 11:19 AM

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:16 PM (j6I6j)

23 RUSTY YBP HOWIE OYSTER Please see my 2 previous posts. Given that IM threatens my life at least twice a day, maybe you can cut me some slack for wanting to "roll IM in flour". Let's be fair please.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:21 PM (j6I6j)

24 Greg, How can you do this to me? I thought we were at least non combatants towards each other. But now I see you want to start polluting my home town. greg: "Gluteus, I'm going to kick your dainty ass, from here to Dallas." If you are going to kick his ass, have the decency to do it all the way up to Lubbock. It stinks up there already due to the slaughter pens.

Posted by: Butch at July 14, 2005 04:34 PM (Gqhi9)

25 Butch, I can see why you would be offended. As we say about pollution, "Don't Mess with Texas". Is Oklahoma OK (no pun intended)?

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 04:39 PM (j6I6j)

26 i just found this site a few days ago and wanted to see more of it until i posted. but i really can't think of much to add to any threads because, well, things seem to get slightly off topic. no, they usually don't even refer to the topic at all. but that's okay. i have to say that i kind of like how easy it is to push buttons just by a few sentences. i'm drawn to all the "greg drama." which is probably because my b/f's name also happens to be greg. so i tend to side with you (greg) at the end of your guys' arguments. so that's not really logical, but true all the same. and i see you may be in danger of getting the boot from this site, so i invite you and all your friends to come play at http://mostembarrassingmoment.com/forum/index.php. the site name may be misleading, or uninteresting for some, and i have to warn you that there are i think a large number of younger kids (10-??), but there is a forum on that website devoted to just "chit-chat." the chit-chat is usually more mature in content. But i think they need some more opinionated people on there to argue. so maybe i'll see you there...

Posted by: terra at July 14, 2005 06:09 PM (llDmc)

27 just want to add that the site i listed has no educational value. news reports, found on this jawa site, are few and far between on the one i mentioned. i don't want to mislead anyone.

Posted by: terra at July 14, 2005 06:30 PM (llDmc)

28 "the site i listed has no educational value." Perfect for you Greg, exchanging ideas with lots of "younger kids (10-??)"!!! She wants you, Greg.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 06:41 PM (zL3KD)

29 My above post was done in jest. Although I disagree with Greg on the WOT, Bush, etc., I wish him health and happiness. And a change of opinion on the WOT, Bush, etc.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 14, 2005 07:03 PM (zL3KD)

30 greg you on I want to show everyone a trick

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 14, 2005 07:07 PM (D3+20)

31 YBP I see you are on

Posted by: Howie at July 14, 2005 07:10 PM (D3+20)

32 I've been lurking for some time and don't post very often but I will say this, Greg, I rarely agree with you on ANYTHING but at least you have something more substantive to add then BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED or some variation thereof. (IMHO), However, DSM reminds me of the BUSH LIES ass clown, show up, throw up a variation of the same tired thought and move on. Fact of the matter is, you don't like Bush, you probably don't like conservatives, hell for all I know you hate puppies and kittens, but we got your point the first thousand times you said it. What I'm saying is if you have a cogent point, please share it, you might change some minds or at least provoke a thoughtful discussion. Otherwise, it's just annoying and eventually turns into another barrage of back and forth insults. Though for sheer entertainment value, sometimes they're fun.

Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 14, 2005 08:32 PM (IpG/2)

33 I'll tell you all a little secret about greg: greg almost always always responds in kind to how he is treated with little exception. Treat him well and you'll get the same.

Posted by: Hoiwie at July 14, 2005 09:08 PM (D3+20)

34 Howie: I think people should treat others as they want to. All the cards on the table. Honest, whether that means being rude or otherwise. If they step over the line, Rusty or you or another designee can step in, but I think all admonitions should be public, not private.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 15, 2005 06:45 AM (x+5JB)

35 Greg, OK is ok. I went to Army boot camp there and never liked it since. And because it is hell, according to the song "Never been to Spain", I feel it would be good.

Posted by: Butch at July 15, 2005 07:43 AM (Gqhi9)

36 Greg's a lunatic and his politics aren't worth a dime, but he's gentle as a lamb if you don't flame him.

Posted by: Carlos at July 15, 2005 10:01 AM (8e/V4)

37 Let it be known that Carlos is not a flamer.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 15, 2005 10:34 AM (x+5JB)

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Today, there are two main sources foreign born Islamist radicalism in the West. The first are political exiles who take advantage of Western tolerance for dissent--even dissent which advocates overthrowing the very liberalism which has generously given them refuge. The second are imams (Muslim clerics) brought to the West to lead congregations of economic immigrants and who bring with them all the social baggage of their native societies--disgust for Western society, conspiracy theories, antisemetism, anti-secularism, and a belief that the ills of the Muslim world can be laid squarely at the feet of Western Imperialism, etc.

Ending both sources of radicalism only requires minor adjustment to present law and, in the end, could prove instrumental in preventing further 7/7 type attacks.

Tony Blair today asserted that he would deport radical Muslim clerics from Britain. A bold move from a country which has historically tolerated the purveyors of hate. It should be remembered that it was from England that an exiled Karl Marx was free to give words to an ideology that would eventually kill tens of millions of people. He fled the corrupt and authoritarian Prussian state to find refuge in the Progressive British one--and then promptly advocated overthrowing both.

For too long those that promote evil ideologies have sought refuge in the pluralism and tolerance of the West. While the term 'political refugee' conjures up images of brave reformers persecuted by totalitarian regimes because of their love of Western style liberalism, the truth is that many refugees are forced into exile because they advocate replacing the current totalitarian regime of a given country with a new form of totalitarianism.

Such is the case with radical Islamists from all over the Middle East who are persecuted for their advocacy of replacing the corrupt secularism, militarism, Arab socialism of present regimes with far worse governments patterned after Afghanistan's Taliban or The Islamic Republic of Iran. Many of these exiles find refuge in the West and under present legal standards they certainly meet every definition of political refugee. In the West these radical purveyors of hate ideology find the resources to give voice to their totalitarian visions.

For instance, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammed was forced to flea his native Syria and found refuge in Great Britain because of his association with the Muslim Brotherhood and his support for replacing the secular Baathist regime in Syria with a religious one. According to this Los Angeles Times article, thousands of these refugees blend in with the large Muslim community of England's working class neighborhoods--the vast majority of whom came seeking economic opportunity. Among the immigrant community, these radical refugees find sympathetic ears, raise money, propagandize, and serve as intermediaries to the world-wide Salafist jihadi network.

It is time for Western countries to stop granting political assylum to those that wish only to destroy us. more...

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I don't necessarily disagree with Rusty's suggestion that Bush fire Carl Rove, but think the timing of firing him now, before there's any actual finding about what he did and primarily in response to the oversell of the scandal by the opposition, would be bad politics. Unlike many people, I haven't been especially impressed with Rove as a political consultant. I don't, for instance, think he did a very good job of managing the 2004 campaign. There's no reason that campaign ought to have even been close, and I think the blogosphere did the yoeman's work of countering the viciously biased drumbeat ofthe mainstream press and that ultimately led to a Bush victory. Rove had nothing to do with that, and if anything he made the task of the bloggers even more difficult. So strictly speaking Rove ought to have been fired ages ago. And the only reason I can think of that he'd still have the confidence of the President, is bad judgment.

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WaPo:

Syria Urged To End Islamic Jihad Support

WASHINGTON -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is insisting that
Syria end its support for Islamic Jihad, the Palestinian group believed
to be responsible for killing four Israelis Tuesday in a suicide
bombing.

That's about as likely as these:

N.O.W. Urged To End Radical Feminism Support

PeTA Urged To End Animal Rights Support

Greenpeace Urged To End Environmentalism Support

Dr. Rusty Shackleford Urged To End War On Terror Support

You get the picture.

And why are we urging Syria when we can make Syria?

Also posted at Vince Aut Morire.

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Leftards always cry racism whenever we point out the fact that while not all Muslims are terrorists, almost every terrorist is a Muslim. As if Muslim was a race. Just to please our leftard readers, I bring you news of a lilly-white terrorist teenager. Better click the link to see the punchline.

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Two SCOTUS nominations this year. Mark. My. Word. Flap is following the details.

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Most of what Muslims call backlash is of the sticks and stones variety or things necessary to protect us from terrorism. This is not. This is very, very, very bad. Disgusting, if true. Guardian:

A Muslim man has been beaten to death outside a corner shop by a gang of youths who shouted anti-Islamic abuse at him, the Guardian has learned.
Kamal Raza Butt, 48, from Pakistan, was visiting Britain to see friends and family. On Sunday afternoon he went to a shop in Nottingham to buy cigarettes and was first called "Taliban" by the youths and then set upon.

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1 I have my doubts about the story. Not necessarily that they didn't beat him, just about the details of the story.

Posted by: Editor at July 13, 2005 01:24 PM (adpJH)

2 "I was speaking out against senseless violence. Burning mosques down and beating people up in the night seems like a criminal hoodlum acts and beneath any civilized government. Mosques? Close 'em down. If the Brits want to deport Moslems for security or safety reasons, it should be done in an orderly matter, using force only if necessary--kind of like, 'No offence, but your presence here is no longer wanted, and you are not safe. No hard feelings. See ya.' I'm talking about the non-violent chaps here--not the rabid terrorist supporters who denounce the very country in which they live. They can be sent on a small raft back to whence they came." The above was my post from a few days ago. This incident, if true, just makes everyone look bad.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 13, 2005 01:42 PM (x+5JB)

3 This is terrible. And who do I blame? The muslim community themselves. Organize a fucking march, you idiots. Show the radical islamists (and racist anglo-saxons) whose side you're on. Until you do that, you will be eyed with suspicion, and in some cases beaten. If there is a backlash it's your own damn fault cause till now we've heard only crickets chirping or qualified "condemnations" of terror.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 01:42 PM (8e/V4)

4 No offense, Carlos, but your post is akin to Muslims who say "9/11 was bad, but it's because of what Americans have been doing around the world." Basically, it's attempting to deflect the blame. Should the Muslim community march in protest of these jihadist scum who perpetrated these acts? Absolutely. But, it's not their fault that this guy was beaten to death. A crime is a crime.

Posted by: Venom at July 13, 2005 01:49 PM (dbxVM)

5 No, Carlos. You sound like them. This man's killers are at fault.

Posted by: Oyster at July 13, 2005 01:51 PM (fl6E1)

6 I might sound like them, but I'm right and they're wrong. That's the difference. And by saying I "sound like them", you are implicitly agreeing with me that they're doing something wrong-- which is my basic point. We don't view muslims suspiciously because they're muslims, we view them suspiciously because we doubt their loyalties.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 02:01 PM (8e/V4)

7 "I might sound like them, but I'm right and they're wrong. That's the difference." Haha, impeccable logic. sigh.

Posted by: Venom at July 13, 2005 02:03 PM (dbxVM)

8 >>>""I might sound like them, but I'm right and they're wrong. That's the difference." Venom, it is impeccable logic. I'll deconstruct it for you if you like-- something that SOUNDS like another is not necessarily the other.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 02:06 PM (8e/V4)

9 Tragic and completely reprehensible. The idea that when A commits an act of evil against B, the best course of action is to take it out on C is part of the reason we are in this mess to begin with.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 13, 2005 02:13 PM (jPCiN)

10 True, but something that SOUNDS like the other usually is the other. Taking that kind of attitude is the same kind of apologist bullshit we heard from some members of the Muslim community after 9/11 where we heard "Yeah, it's sad, but don't look at us to blame. It's America's fault that their cities were attacked." It's really not that hard to understand: Terrorist scum were responsible for 9/11. Vigilante scum was responsible for this.

Posted by: Venom at July 13, 2005 02:14 PM (dbxVM)

11 At least they didn't saw his head off and put it on the f-ing internet.

Posted by: Filthy Allah at July 13, 2005 02:19 PM (yBHNA)

12 >>>"True, but something that SOUNDS like the other usually is the other." That may be true, and I may even be wrong at times, but illogical? NEVER. I will join the rest of the blog in condemning this senseless act. But it is clearly in the best interests of the muslim community to make their loyalties as clear as day in the next few weeks and months.

Posted by: Carlos at July 13, 2005 02:20 PM (8e/V4)

13 Venom If the man who was attacked had been spouting off about how the terrorist were justified, then your point is right on. However, by all accounts the man was in the wrong place at the wrong time and paid for that 'sin' with his life. There is no excuse for it, and those that did it should have to pay for it with their own lives as well.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 13, 2005 02:31 PM (jPCiN)

14 Let the Brits sent these people away by law, but peacefully and humanely. "Right" doesn't need to resort to human vandalism.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 13, 2005 02:36 PM (x+5JB)

15 DG, Uh, isn't that the point I made? I think I stated that there was no justification for what was done.

Posted by: Venom at July 13, 2005 02:44 PM (dbxVM)

16 Earlier this morning I saw this posted as an AP story. It might have pulled, as I could no longer find it to reference. It is hard to say whether this was done due to misinformation or ???

Posted by: RomeoDelta at July 13, 2005 02:45 PM (AHaCg)

17 Perhaps, if you can, you should provide a video link to it, so we can see the enemy. Sheesh.

Posted by: Professor Peter Von Nostrand at July 13, 2005 02:49 PM (h9w01)

18 Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that this man in some way actually had ties to the bombers? Yes, yes... I know that Pakistan is a big country and all, but 3 of the identified bombers were from Pakistan, and this guy just happens to be visiting family during the time of the massacre? I highly doubt there's a connection, but an interesting thought nonetheless.

Posted by: RomeoDelta at July 13, 2005 02:52 PM (AHaCg)

19 As ye sow, also shall ye reap. The harvest is ready for gathering now, and muslims are finding they have planted fields of thorns. May they choke on them.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 03:02 PM (0yYS2)

20 Jesus Christ, Just because the guy was a Pakistani doesn't mean he had any ties to even Islam, let alone the bombers. I went to two CofE schools in England, and it was full of Pakistani kids, so it doesn't even mean he was Muslim because he was from Pakistani. talk about ignorant.

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 03:10 PM (fsJ2z)

21 Dave, Ignorance involves not realizing the probability that my idea is incorrect. I, on the other hand, CLEARLY stated that I found the possibility of a connection to be unlikely. In my mind, it is you who are the ignorant one... as you either did not fully read, nor grasp the full concept within my comment. And, I'd prefer if you didn't address me as Jesus Christ in the future. I'm not fit to tie his sandals. ~RD

Posted by: RomeoDelta at July 13, 2005 03:15 PM (AHaCg)

22 actually in your mind, it sounds like all people with brown skin might be evil Muslims -- won't you be surprised.

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 03:17 PM (fsJ2z)

23 Yeah, Dave. Chill.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 13, 2005 03:18 PM (x+5JB)

24 Dave, Now who is stereotyping whom? I think you'll find that you are barking up the wrong tree when it comes to accusing me of racism or religious bigotry. Want to try a different game? You'll likely come up empty there too, so I'd recommend you take YBP's advice and chill. ~RD

Posted by: RomeoDelta at July 13, 2005 03:23 PM (AHaCg)

25 stereotyping? sorry, did the guy that wrote: "this guy just happens to be visiting family during the time of the massacre?" "Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that this man in some way actually had ties to the bombers?" because the person beaten was from Pakistan just accuse me of sterotyping? You' would have wrote the same thing right if he was White and from Berlin right?

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 03:26 PM (fsJ2z)

26 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/nottinghamshire/4680891.stm

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 03:40 PM (fsJ2z)

27 All right, kids. Don't make me come over there.

Posted by: Oyster at July 13, 2005 03:44 PM (fl6E1)

28 Dave, I'm a card-carrying, flag waving, bleeding heart registered democrat liberal, and a friend of Romeo's. While we don't see eye to eye on all political issues, we both agree that the right to freely express opinions is a value we hold dear. You might be interested to know that Romeo is not racist, nor is he lacking in intellect or communication skills. He is a well educated, eloquent and balanced individual--who also happened to work and live in the Middle East! So your accusations of racism are very off the mark. I take his "what if" commentary as nothing more than that, a "what if", much like my current musing, "What if it was sunny and hot this weekend and I could spend extra time weeding my garden?" Have a great day! Cheers, happygardeningmama

Posted by: happygardeningmama at July 13, 2005 03:46 PM (AHaCg)

29 This string delineates the Jawa Community along two clear lines. Those who have sympathy for the man who was murdered and those who find joy in his death. The latter lineage, are no better than the description they attribute to Islam, i.e., it is a fundementally flawed religion. Your attitude leaves no room for reconciliation, which is the only possible way to end this madness, short of the total annihillation of humanity. I'm certain, that like the former lineage, there is a strong core with whom we can find common ground in the Islamic community. This will be our salvation. The first step is to be more even handed in dealing with the Israeli/Palestinian situation. From this step will shine the beacon of peace.

Posted by: greg at July 13, 2005 03:48 PM (OiV6y)

30 I'm sorry my comments must have been REALLY off the mark if he needed someone to come over here and tell me he's not a racist. Feel free to apologize, I have nothing better to go by that his own words, you evidently know him better so let's just say he's not a racist if it makes everyone concerned "happy".

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 03:54 PM (fsJ2z)

31 Bullshit greg, you hate Jews and are always willing to believe it was them instead of muslims who murdered people. The only common ground that muslims have in mind for us is the grave, dhimmis like you included.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 04:08 PM (0yYS2)

32 Be nice to greg you know what an effort it was for him to be so reasonable. Greg is right there is a perception that the US always goes with Israel and let's Palestine suffer. While me may scold Israel in private when they thumb their nose at us a public scolding or two might help dispell that perception. Example: some times the US works it's butt off trying to make a deal. There is a certain element in Israel that does not want peace just more expansion. Just Just about the time we get close to making progress boom they bulldoze a house or carry out an assisination at just the wrong moment. I don't often support Palestine since I watched them Cheering the WTC. But not to look a Israel with a critcal eye is not right either. Greg goes overboard with it in my opinion but that's greg's mission. We need to make the US wag Israel's dog not he other way around. While the war in Iraq seems to have taken a lot of the attention from this issue it stands to reason that until Palestine and Israel come to an agreement there will be problems. Maybe since the spotlight is off that issue right now they can quietly make some progress there. For sure there is plenty of guilt on both sides. I just don't think we should always support Israel no matter what. I think that bombing there the other day was the terrorist trying to get attention back. Maybe the war on terror is just the thing to get peace there. Unlikely but I think there is more hope now than in a long time. I put it at about 80/20 palestine/Israel but for sure Israel should rightfully get some of the blame. The concept of Israel looking our for Israel and not the US is not all that far fetched. We look out for them a lot more than they look out for us.

Posted by: Howie at July 13, 2005 04:38 PM (D3+20)

33 Well Said Howie

Posted by: Sparky at July 13, 2005 04:45 PM (F1nba)

34 Oh and I havent heard anything about this story over here. If its true then it is terrible but that could happen here to me walking down the street with my children. It could have nothing to do with reprisals and more to do wth the yob culture that is overrunning this country.

Posted by: Sparky at July 13, 2005 04:49 PM (F1nba)

35 I fully agree with Rusty. The vigilante violence referred to only hurts the cause of reason. There's plenty of room for vigilance, but we really don't need any vigilantism right now. I also agree with the commenters who denounce any blaming of the victim. We can all discuss positive steps the Muslim world could take at another time. I don't know who this Pakistani man was, but he probably didn't deserve to get beaten to death, and he certainly didn't deserve to get beaten to death simply because he was Pakistani. This man's killing was wrong. Period. The people responsible should be severely punished. Period.

Posted by: Eman at July 13, 2005 04:51 PM (c/4ax)

36 Sparky: personally, I wouldn't walk around in the Meadows in Nottingham either, but it wasn't a surprise to me to see reprisals of this nature occuring.

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 04:57 PM (fsJ2z)

37 A few more beatings and Muslims may be properly deterred from visiting! He who does not take up arms against Jihadism is by default a Jihadist. I am looking forward to more instances of Muslim homicide bombers waking up bovine Europeans who shrink from the Kulturkampf we must fight.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgan at July 13, 2005 04:59 PM (u9usz)

38 I hate this freaking keyboard.

Posted by: Howie at July 13, 2005 05:03 PM (D3+20)

39 Dave Im not surprised either I may not agree that this is the best way forward but I would like to see the Muslim community coming forward and letting the authorities know of anyone who is spouting their hate in the mosques they are the only ones who can help us tackle the problems but will they? The sad state of affairs is that until people in this country see some movement in this direction this is the sort of stupidity we can expect. Greg Will we be seeing you eat a little humble pie in respect of your post that they were british,they were but they were british MUSLIMS

Posted by: Sparky at July 13, 2005 05:25 PM (F1nba)

40 "The sad state of affairs is that because people in this country will see only trivial movement in this direction, this is the sort of inevitable, visceral response we can expect." Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgan at July 13, 2005 05:45 PM (u9usz)

41 GREG OOPS watch those crumbs your getting them all over the carpet! Hugh thank you I think

Posted by: Sparky at July 13, 2005 06:09 PM (F1nba)

42 Until muslims come out in force to expose and eject from among them extremists, terrorists, and their supporters, they must all be considered enemies. When they start turning in the jihadis then they can expect safety, until then, they are all enemies.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 06:44 PM (0yYS2)

43 IM: http://www.blackfive.net/main/ They have pictures of Iraqi's that marched against terrorism on July 5th, next question -- Why haven't we heard about it from the press?

Posted by: dave at July 13, 2005 09:40 PM (fsJ2z)

44 A good place for Pakistanis is Pakistan. End of problems now and in the future. Let us face the truth. England screwed up by allowing too many ragheads into their country. Now they have a problem. This problem will grow and grow until the Brits realize that massive deportations is the only answer. I will point out for the muslim excuse makers that the score this week in England is 52 dead and 300 wounded by the muslims and 1 dead (if true, which I doubt) by the English (Christians). And yet some seem to still make excuses for the muslims and critize Christians who have had enough.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 13, 2005 10:22 PM (CBNGy)

45 Hi Sparky: Long time. I trust you and family are fine. I have a new grandson.

Posted by: Greyrooster at July 13, 2005 10:24 PM (CBNGy)

46 Muslims marching is one thing; it could easily be a massive damage control campaign, but I will believe there's a change when they start giving up names of terrorists is supporters. I would like to see islam change, but I'm not holding my breath, but rather spending more time at the range and the gym. Like the old Arab proverb goes: Trust Allah, but tie up your camel.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 13, 2005 11:54 PM (0yYS2)

47 Greyrooster CONGRATULATIONS I hope all are well. Does he look like his Grandad? You have been MIA for a while is this why?

Posted by: Sparky at July 14, 2005 06:00 AM (F1nba)

48 Sparky: "Greg, Will we be seeing you eat a little humble pie in respect of your post that they were british,they were but they were british MUSLIMS " Sparky, next to apple pie ala mode, humble pie is my favorite. Remember, these 4 are Suspects. I hear there is a video of the 4 meeting prior to disbursing and reportedly doing the bombing. I haven't watched much TV lately, so I may be wrong about this, but I haven't seen the video or even a still photo of the tetrad. Have you? I want 1st hand evidence, not a second hand account from Big Brother. Even if such a video exists, is it proof any wrong doing? Are any of the other points of evidence proof, or just circumstantial evidence? Was any of the evidence manufactured (see the next paragraph regarding the manufactured 9-11 story). Cui bono? Blair, who was receiving great resistance in the pursuit of the passage of the new British anti-terrorism bill, will now have the bill sail through. If the bombs were designed to be detonated remotely, why not do so? It makes no sense to me. I can't imagine someone with an 8 month old baby killing himself when he could explode his bomb remotely. Apparently the man's own family had no idea that he was a 'terrorist', as they called the police to report him missing. You and others believe that these men are guilty, not because it's a slam dunk, but merely because you have been told that is the case. I remember after 9-11, we were shown a picture that was reported to be Mohammed Atta entering the Portland, Oregon airport. I never saw pictures of the other 18 entering the airports of their final departure site. According to a BBC report , 4 of the hijackers are still alive, read it for yourself: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm and yet Big Brother never corrected himself. To this day, the FBI still lists the 4 live men as being among the 'terrorists'. Why? Do they think we are that stupid? Are we that stupid? I for one am not, despite, what others on this site might say about me. I remain unconvinced.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 06:39 AM (rkHVU)

49 "A British disaster recovery consultant working at the scene of the London 7/7 bombings tells British TV and radio how they occurred precisely at the times and places scheduled in a terrorism drill he was running. July 13, 2005—The slip was showing On Her Majesty's Secret Service, broadcast on prime time TV for all Britain to see on the evening of 7/7—but almost no one noticed. It happened on a special called Target London. Rescue workers on one half of the screen, and on the other, Peter Power, a British consultant, innocently giving the game away. Can you see what's wrong with this picture? Power: Today we were running an exercise for a company . . . 1,000 people involved in the whole organization—with the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was, it was we based on a scenario of simultaneous attacks on a underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real. . . . Interviewer: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario? Power: Almost precisely. [2] Within the hour Mr. Power was on the radio, too: Power: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now. Host: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise? Power: Precisely. [3] You might need to be a paranoid 9/11 conspiracy theorist like me to understand what Mr. Power was saying, since as a normal person, he himself was surprised but not suspicious." Just like on 9-11, the 'suicide bombers' operated under the cover of a drill. Were they part of the drill? Did they think they were carrying fake expolsives? Is this why they died despite carrying explosives that could be detonated remotely? Were they patsies in a psyop like Oswald? Under the cicumstances, these are valid questions.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 07:51 AM (0PbLu)

50 Correction: Atta was supposedly filmed in Portland,MAINE not Oregon, although it makes no difference.

Posted by: greg at July 14, 2005 07:57 AM (0PbLu)

51 Venom You are of course right, and I should have read your post more closely. My apologies.

Posted by: Defense Guy at July 14, 2005 10:46 AM (jPCiN)

52 Greg remains unconvinced that muslims did this, but convinced that Jooooooos did it. He also remains a mouth-breathing moron who lives in his mom's basement.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 14, 2005 11:35 AM (0yYS2)

53 No worries. I kinda figured you weren't referring to me.

Posted by: Venom at July 14, 2005 11:36 AM (dbxVM)

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The name of three of the four misunderstanderers of Islam, pieces of inhuman shit, and current bitches to Beelzibub himself have been released. [UPDATE 7/14---fourth suspect named, fifth man thought to be ex-North Carolina State graduate student and current instructor at Leeds University....scroll down for updates] fourth unnamed suspect is presumed dead in the fiery explosion that killed dozens and sent the human-bomb straight to hell. A fifth man, presumable alive, is being sought by police. We will update this post as more information becomes available. Be sure to scroll to end for updates.

Yes, it's people like these that make me hope that their is a) an afterlife b) justice in the afterlife. Thanks to Neil Doyle, British terrorism expert and author of Terror Tracker, for helping me find the names. Sources: Fox News here and here (with thanks to Tim at Opinion Bug for tip):

Shahzad Tanweer, Aldgate bomber.--a 22-year-old cricket-loving sports science graduate. His father, Mohammed Mumtaz Tanweer, was born in Pakistan and owns a fish and chip shop near their home on Colwyn Road. Shahzad Tanweer had lived in the Beeston area of Leeds his whole life.

Hasib Mir Hussain, Tavistock Square Bus Bomber-- 19. Hussain had lived with his Pakistani born parents in the Leeds suburb of Holbeck his whole life.

Mohammed Sidique Khan, Edgware Road Bomber.-- 30-year-old married father of an 8-month-old baby. Born in Pakistan but raised in Beeston. Moved to Lees Holm in Dewsbury about five months ago. Neighbors said he worked with disabled children while his wife was involved in education.

UPDATE: Lindsey Germaine, Jamaican-born, lived in Buckinghamshire.

Two other suspects may be the fourth bomber and the fifth conspirator from SMH Australia:

Rashid Facha-- in his 20s
Jacksey Fiaz-- 30

And how do friends and relatives describe the terrorist scumbags? It's always the same thing with these people. Our popular media likes to make extremists out to be fanatics in every aspect of their lives. The truth is that mass-murderering thugs like this tend to be quiet, mind their own business, and usually show no outward evidence of religious fanaticism. They are your typical good neighbors.

Fox:

Neighbors of Tanweer in Leeds' garbage-strewn rows of Victorian-era red brick houses were apprehensive and hostile, walking fast past reporters gathered at the cordons. One warehouse worker, who would only give his first name, Saj, said Tanweer was a "good lad" and an athlete.

"He was quiet," he said. "He was religious. He went to every mosque here. There are loads of mosques here."

And how is the Pakistani community reacting to the fact that all of the human time bombs were from their community? Are they trying to root out the evil in their midsts in a comparable way to anti-Hitler Germans in America fought the German Bund?

"This is not good for Muslims," Iqbal said. "We have businesses here. There will be a backlash."

Khalid Muneer, 28, a spokesman for the Hyde Park Mosque in Leeds, said the community was surprised by the raids and police claims that the bombers may have come from there.

"That connection would surprise us all, even shock the whole community. We still think it's too early to say," he told AP, adding that Muslims in the area were not opposed to Britain.

"I've seen no calls in this area for jihad against British or American forces. You will not get that sentiment expressed around this mosque."

You don't need explicit calls for jihad when you believe in the exact same worldview as the jihadis. Your mosque preaches hatred for America and Britain, you claim Muslims are being murdered at the hands of the West, you claim a Zionist conspiracy controls the UK and is responsible for poor conditions in Muslim lands, you claim the the Anglo-American alliance is killing millions of Muslims, and that a real holocaust is being committed against your brothers around the world---yet, you say you want to change things peacefully?

If the Anglo-American alliance is committing such attrocities then it would be your duty to fight them with whatever means were necessary.

Only a fool and moral idiot would believe that fighing mass-murder on a genocidal scale should only be achieved through peaceful means.

But I'm sure it wasn't a religious worldview that blames the woes of the Islam on the West that had anything to do with this. A worldview which suggests that there ought to be a single Islamic nation ruled by Islamic law. A worldview which reinforces the notion that Muslims belong to the umma--the nation of Islam--and that their allegiance is to the umma and not the host nation-state. A worldview which splits the world into the dar al-Islam, the territories governed by those who have submitted to Allah, and the dar al-Harab, or the House of War--which by definition sets up a belief system in which Muslim lands are seen positively and non-Muslim lands are seen negatively. A worldview which cannot fathom without resorting to conspiracy theories the fact that the West is so powerful while Muslim nations are so weak, given the fact that the Quran explicitly predicts the eventual domination of the world by Islam.

Nope, the ideology that is Islam had nothing to do with it. I'm sure it was, like, poverty or something.

Leeds, about 185 miles north of London, has a population of about 715,000. About 15 percent of the residents are Muslim, and many come from a tight-knit Pakistani community, mostly from Mirpur, south of Islamabad in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir. Other pockets of the community are mostly Arab....

The three suspects appear to have come from a moderately affluent sect of British society. They reportedly rode in a rental car to London, toting military style backpacks. The fourth bomber remains unidentified, but is believed to be from the Luton area northwest of London.

SHEHZAD Tanweer, Shazzy to his friends, was a cricket-loving sports science graduate whose father ran the local chip shop.

The Bradford-born 22-year-old who spoke with a broad West Yorkshire accent, boarded an eastbound Circle Line train from London's Kings Cross station a week ago, where he detonated a bomb, killing at least seven commuters...

If ever there was a family of model immigrants, it was the Tanweers. Originally from Pakistan, they had made a good life in Britain, running their Leeds fish and chip shop and living in a large detached house in the city's Beeston area, with two Mercedes cars parked outside.

They were a close-knit family of good Muslims, respected in a local multi-ethnic community of whites, Africans, east Europeans, Pakistanis and Bengalis.

Shehzad had a brother and two sisters, children of the proprietor of South Leeds Fishery, a familiar and respected figure in the Beeston community. The fish shop was open for business on Tuesday but there was no sign of its owner.

Mohamed Ansaar Riaz, 19, and Azzy Mohamed, 21, said their friend Shehzad was "the best lad you could ever meet".

They described how he had grown up in Beeston, studied sports science subjects at university and been a competent all-rounder for a local Asian cricket team. He last played only a fortnight ago.

"He was a sweet guy who gets on with everyone," Mr Riaz said. "He had a fantastic sense of humour and could make you laugh. He was also a very intelligent person. His family, like other Pakistanis, Bengalis and Iraqis around here, are 100 per cent devoted to the Koran.

"Shehzad never drank and I never heard him swear. The idea of him going down to London to explode a bomb is unbelievable; it is not in his nature to do something like that. He is the kind of guy who would always condemn extremism, like any good Muslim should. I have heard him many times in the past say such things."

Shehzad's uncle, Mohamed Azfal, said his nephew visited Pakistan last year. The family had come originally from Faisalabad.

Tanweer, whose family came to Leeds from Pakistan in 1961, had lived all his life among the back-to-back houses of Beeston, on hills overlooking Leeds United's Elland Road stadium.

Hussain attended the local Matthew Murray High School, now called South Leeds High School, and Khan only left Beeston five months ago to move to Dewsbury....

Ms Hussain said she had grown up with Tanweer and was his sister Tabsum's best friend.

"I couldn't imagine anyone in that family doing anything like this, it is really shocking.

"He [Shehzad Tanweer] used to pray five times a day, but what was he thinking?

"Nowhere does Islam tell you to go and kill yourself. It is the worst thing you can do."

Now check out this. I bet the 'mastermind' had a hooked nose, wore a little beanie, and used Arab blood when preparing the Passover matzoh.

She believes the suspected bombers must have been influenced by a mastermind outside the local community.

"There are three mosques that people go to round here and you would never hear anything like that there. I don't know anyone who thinks like that."

Her friend Uzma Rafiq, until recently a student in Leeds, said: "There must be somebody else behind this who has sent them down the wrong path."

UPDATE: Evan Kohlmann on an experience he had while visiting London.

When pressed on his point about Palestine, Faisal reiterated several times, "that's all occupied Muslim land. Every single part of it is Muslim land and it all has to be taken back by force... yes, the women have to be targeted... in Israel, we're going to target the women... if the children get killed, the Jewish children, [you can only] blame yourselves" for living on occupied land.

Perhaps what disturbed me the most about Faisal's desperate words was searching around the room and seeing dozens of eyes diligently trained on him--the eyes of young, impressionable Muslim kids. It is common in this modern era for Western youths (of all backgrounds) to worship popular rock stars or Hollywood actors and aspire to become them. Yet, for many years, the radical religious fringe has preached a consistent countermessage to young Muslims: "by virtue of your heritage alone, you are different from your peers and 'we love death as they love life.'" A minority of these youths have been raised to idolize Usama Bin Laden and Mohammed Atta in the same way that many Americans follow Johnny Depp and Bruce Springsteen. With disastrous "Muslim wars" ongoing in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of those brainwashed into following Al-Qaida now see a unique opportunity for themselves to step forward from obscurity and become famous, heroic "martyrs" of the Islamic nation, much like the 9/11 hijackers. Let noone be mistaken: the deluded suicide bombers responsible for the carnage on 7/7 are far from alone. The age of the "human cruise missile" is now fully upon us and it is likely only a matter of time before this problem crosses the Atlantic and reaches the shores of the American homeland.

But as they watched soldiers, police and journalists invade their streets Tuesday, other young neighbors seethed.

They defended Tanweer as a good man who would not have done such a thing. Some, however, came close to justifying violence in response to a perceived assault on Muslims worldwide.

"You see Palestinian kids getting killed on the street in your living room, maybe you're going to flip," said a young man who identified himself only as Shakur, 27. It is not a matter of Al Qaeda carrying out attacks, he said. "The people are doing it themselves."

The uncle of one of the suspected London suicide bombers said his family had been "left shattered" by the news. Bashir Ahmed, 65, said the family of Shehzad Tanweer, who recently studied religion in Pakistan, could not accept he was capable of the bombings."It wasn't him. It must have been forces behind him," he said.

UPDATE 7/14: A chemistry instructor at Leeds University has been implicated as the possibe as the mastermind behind the 7/7 bombings. The way the article is written, it sounds as if he may have been a graduate student but I'm not sure how the British University system works exactly. more...

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Just when it seems that it's going to be a slow news day (Rove! Rove! Rove! blah blah blah) a perusal of the news drops some gems into my lap.

Note to squealers, bleaters, and general miscreants. These are AP stories via your beloved "Faux News."

Apology Not Accepted:

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Islamic leaders and peace groups are criticizing the California National Guard for a flier posted in its headquarters suggesting the United States execute Islamic terrorists with bullets dipped in pig's blood to deny them entry to heaven.

Oh the horror! Oh, the humanity! A tragedy of epic proportions. Now the terrorists will respond with a flier of their own, thereby perpetuating the Cycle of Offensive Fliers. Think of the trees!

Open Mouth, Insert Keffiyeh:

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — A prominent U.S.-based Islamic scholar who exhorted his followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison.

Congratulations! Now you can exhort Bubba to not commit bad gay acts upon you.

This Is How It's Done:

TULKAREM, West Bank — Israeli troops reoccupied the West Bank city of Tulkarem early Wednesday, killing a Palestinian policeman in a firefight and arresting five Islamic Jihad activists after the militant group killed four Israelis in a bomb attack.

Another example of why Islamofascism is a doomed enterprise. While they murder civilians minding their own business, the military forces of their adversaries remain largely untouched, and are given license to dispatch them to Allah at will. Well, unless the adversary is France, that is.

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Well I'll tell you the low pressure center that was Dennis sure has ended that drought. Yep it started raining Sunday night and it's still misting rain right now. I Have some pretty good candiates this week. A veritible plethora of fools for your reading enjoyment.

The london bombers.

I've been reading all week how Muslims are appalled by these acts. Well here is another example of radical Islam.

Mohammed Bouyeri

"What moved me to do what I did was purely my faith. ... I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his prophet,"

And to the mother of his murder victim.

"I have to admit I don't have any sympathy for you," he said. "I can't feel for you because I think you're a nonbeliever."

Full story from Yahoo

Now for those that lead them.

Sheikh Omar bin Bakri Muhammad

Saad al-Fagih

Mustafa Setmariam Nasar aka Abu Musab al-Asuri

Jamal Zougam

All these bums are profiled at the northeast intelligence network.

Leakers that hurt the war on terror and lot's more below the break. I mean lots more. Check it out.

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