July 21, 2005
Prime Ministers' News Conference
Here's a followup to the timely entries from Howie and Mad Dog Vinnie. British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Australian Prime Minister John Howard spoke. The following is a paraphrasing of the news conference.
(Blair) I met with the police commissioner. We just need to act calmly. We hope to get the rest of the transport system up and running as soon as possible.
(Howard) Australia sympathizes with and supports the British people. Terrorism is the enemy of all free people.
The response of emergency services in London and Great Britain have been quite remarkable.
Reporters to Blair:
Question: What would you say to those who would not want to go into London?
"It's important that we keep to our normal lives."
Question: Who is responsible?
"The police are best to let you know who is responsible. Terrorist attacks are meant to frighten people. It's important we react calmly."
Question: Do you feel your policies have put us in this position?
The people responsible for doing this are responsible for this situation.
The roots of this are deep. Terrorist attacks go back over 10 years. What they want us to do is say we're responsible. The people that carry out these attacks are the terrorists.
Update at 11:22 EDT
Investigators apparently have found that the explosive device used on the bus in today's event is similar to that which was used in the terror bombings on July 7.
From Sky News:
There has also been an incident on a bus in Hackney, East London.
Police are reportedly examining a rucksack left on the top deck.
Tube stations at Warren Street, Oval and Shepherd's Bush have been closed.
Chemical searches at all four sites have proved negative.
Armed police officers have entered University College Hospital in Bloomsbury close to Warren Street station.
An internal memo to staff at the hospital warned them to be on the lookout for a black male, possibly of Asian origin, about 6ft 2ins tall, wearing a blue top with wires protruding from the rear of the top.
Across London, a man was arrested at gunpoint by armed police at the gates of Downing Street.
In summary, the investigation continues and, from my perspective, it seems to be a botched operation on the part of the terrorists.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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Their guy got arrested in Pakistan and the other in Egypt is still being held last I heard (even though Egypt says he is innocent, they still held him). Without their guidance they probably tried to make do and go ahead with their limited knowledge and botched it.
Of course, it's just a guess.
Posted by: Oyster at July 21, 2005 12:26 PM (fl6E1)
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More Explosions in London: Psy-ops in Progress
Watson and Jones| July 21 2005
"In the early confusion about what is actually happening in London, several things are already clear.
- This immediately stalls questions about the first bombing. The mainstream media were finally beginning to highlight the fact that the government's official story did not fit together. This takes those issues off the front pages.
- This further promulgates the fearmongering and creates a pliable public that is willing to accept draconian anti-terror laws. They are trying to turn us into Israel, with an alert or a bombing every fortnight.
- On the very day that the Patriot Act is due to be renewed, Bush can use the alert level to grease the skids and bully Congress into re-authorizing the bill.
Related: Bush sees London attacks as reason for Patriot Act
Some early reports from the scene of the incidents are very interesting.
BBC reported that one of the individuals' rucksacks exploded and he looked surprised and dismayed. Who is planting these devices in people's luggage? Or are these people copycats?
Sky News reported that Tony Blair was already in a crisis meeting in an underground bunker which overlapped with the alert. Another case of preparing to 'control' the chaos as it unfolded?
Sky News also reports Blair was set to meet with MI5 and MI6 as well as Secret Service later today. This suggests Blair's schedule was planned ahead of time to coincide with these incidents.
There are already 'Atta passport' type stories of Arabs planting the bombs and running away and being chased by members of the public. This immediately creates the psy-ops storyboard that this is the work of Al-Qaeda."
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 12:49 PM (3D/yw)
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Question: Do you feel your policies have put us in this position?
Are you sure this wasn't a NYT reporter? Sounds more like an accusation than a question.
Posted by: Oyster at July 21, 2005 03:13 PM (fl6E1)
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Uh Greg the UK doesn't have a Secret Service it has the Security Service also known as MI5, mind U I'm not saying you're fill of shit and don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by: Mike at July 21, 2005 07:43 PM (CEUV/)
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More News From London
Fox:Sky News TV reported that police were searching for a man with a blue shirt with wires protruding. Officers asked employees to look for a black or Asian male, 6 feet 2 inches tall, wearing a blue top with a hole in the back and wires protruding.
Scotland Yard said there have been two arrests, one at Downing Street and one at greater Scotland Yard, but officials are stressing the arrests may not be related. There will be a police briefing at 12:30 p.m. EDT.
Also:
There was also an incident at 10 Downing Street, where the British prime minister's offices are located. Two police officers trained their guns on a man before leading him off the premises; his shirt was unbuttoned in the front.
Suggestions are being made that this may be a "copycat" style incident.
Yup, just another isolated incident.
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"Sky News TV reported that police were searching for a man with a blue shirt with wires protruding."
Protruding from where? Ouch!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 07:18 AM (x+5JB)
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Four minor explosions reported in London
Sketchy reports are coming in from London that several minor blast have occured one on a bus and the rest in outlying areas of the London tube system.
The BBC is reporting the exposions were detonators only and lack the exposives needed to cause heavy damage. However there was some panic and there are reports of people being trampled trying to evacuate. Also reports of men threatening to blow themselves up and one man reported running from one of the trains just after the like I said minor explosion. The windows on the upper deck of one bus were blown out. Some lines have been closed. This attack came about midday in London. This is a developing story. Guest posters feel free to update this thread I will check back about 12:00 cdt. Also so far one minor injury had been reported.
Also see this story from sky news which has some more details including that police were also using chemical protection suits. It's not known at this time if that was just a precaution or if there was some other reason. I'm sure as the day goes by we will have a better idea of what has occured in London. My support goes out to all Brits.
Update:
An initial chemical search of all four sites has proved negative sky news is reporting.
The BBC reports that:
"Tests for chemical, biological and radiological weapons proved negative".
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CBS says armed police entered a hospital, thoughts being
that a bomber injured by a detonator explosion sought refuge
there.
MPS says this is a serious event.
Posted by: Tim at July 21, 2005 08:39 AM (OmwdG)
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MPS confirms four bomb explosions or attempted bomb explosions.
BBC says man injured at Warrent Street station may in fact be a bomber.
Posted by: Tim at July 21, 2005 08:50 AM (OmwdG)
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Wait, wait, don't tell me... it was the damned Amish again, right? No? Well, must've been the JOOOOOOOOS then.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 08:50 AM (0yYS2)
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at July 21, 2005 09:41 AM (LNA9X)
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Stupid muslims have nothing better to do.These terrorists are very dangerous until they are caught and put in slammer,then they cry like cornered weasels.They blame it all on west,and dont even know that wahbbism was taught before Israel and the U.S were even in existence,morons,these ragheads are a blight on civilization.(notice how they hate U.S.-Britain but live freely in those places and attend our universities)damn suicidal morons.
Posted by: philo at July 21, 2005 09:50 AM (yzz1Z)
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dave listens to elevator music, while awaiting Gregs new theory of innocent muslim lambs implicated by American/UK/Israel threeway psyops!
Posted by: dave at July 21, 2005 10:06 AM (DO6vD)
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Threeway psyops? I get all humid just thinking about it... Ooh, be-have!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 10:38 AM (0yYS2)
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Note to Spain:
Notice the Brits have not raised their hands in surrender like you and the Frogs?
Liberals always surrender.
Posted by: Ob Snooks at July 21, 2005 10:43 AM (yBHNA)
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Actually Ob, while many, if not most, Brits are liberals, they are still Brits, and Brits don't go down without a fight. Maybe they will finally start waking up to the awful reality of the 1984 existence they've been living.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 10:56 AM (0yYS2)
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This job is too amateurish to be an al CIA da operation. Everyone calm down!
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 11:02 AM (3D/yw)
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Oh but greg what if they just made it look crude to throw you off dude. Sorry I could not resist.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 11:16 AM (D3+20)
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"Amateurs," maybe. But terrorism, nonetheless. Some may want to downplay this. Pakistan's President might have some good
advice.
Posted by: California Conservative at July 21, 2005 11:39 AM (cnO1R)
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The libs in England consider themselves English First and degenerate libs second. Unlike the filthy French and Spanish.
Libs in America will surrender when the USA is finally attacked again. Kerry will want to negotiate and call for "understanding"....Same with Pelosi, Reid, Klinton and the rest of the loonie left.
Thank God for Bush and his giant swinging balls.
Posted by: Ob Snooks at July 21, 2005 11:54 AM (yBHNA)
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Howie,
You made a very good point. Coming on the heals of 7/7, a minor 'attack' has a much bigger impact than it would have otherwise. I'm going to stick with my contention that 7/7 was a pysop and that today's attack was a coordinated 'reinforcing' psyop.
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 12:22 PM (3D/yw)
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greg:
I would expect no less of you my conspiracy loving poster. Have a good one.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 12:31 PM (D3+20)
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Howie,
There's more. Everything said about 7-7 is total bullshit. Same goes for 9-11. Please read the following two BBC articles.
I. UK boy wrongly labelled as bomber
The boy confused with London bomber Hasib Hussain
Evidence showing that all three of the London bombers of Pakistani descent visited Pakistan last year has been thrown into doubt.
A photograph of a passport purporting to show bomber Hasib Hussain was in fact that of a 16-year-old British boy with the same name.
"I first saw my photograph on Channel 4 [news] and I was terrified," the boy told ARY.
"I didn't want people looking at me saying, hey, you are supposed to be dead," he told ARY, "or someone saying that there goes the London bomber."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4704427.stm
This reminds me of 9-11. Four of the supposed hijackers are still alive and yet the FBI still shows the pictures of the 4 men. Please read the following BBC article.
II. "Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Waleed Al Shehri left the US a year ago, he says
Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.
The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.
Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.
His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.
Hijacking suspects
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi
Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami
Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour
Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi
Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.
He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.
But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco."
read more at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 12:41 PM (3D/yw)
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Ahh shows that not everything is always right no doubts about Atta right?? Since parts of him were found in NYC on a rooftop. hell I can't tell one arab from another either. Especially by names.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 12:53 PM (D3+20)
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ah that settles it then, it must have been a CIA/Israel op, including auto-piloted planes using remote control, demolition and Israeli spy "furniture movers".
Wait. Doesn't that detract from the fact that if the Government did the operation, they would already know exactly whom was supposed to have died, who to blame, and whom to "disappear"?
Posted by: dave at July 21, 2005 12:56 PM (DO6vD)
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Howie:'Ahh shows that not everything is always right no doubts about Atta right?? Since parts of him were found in NYC on a rooftop.'
Howie,
You sure about that bro? That's news to me. Do you have a citation for that?
As I recall, by some miracle, Atta's passport was found in immaculate condition 2 blocks from ground zero. I'm so sure! Can you say 'planted evidence'?
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 03:52 PM (3D/yw)
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I'm not sure about my own ass right now. I've been being attacked attempts to send me viruses or is that virusi hell I don't know. I'm about to stop ever talking to anyone ever.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 04:01 PM (D3+20)
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Obsnooks/Filthy/Earl Dittman/Angry Blackman:'Thank God for Bush and his giant swinging balls.'
You've got to be joking. The guy let a male whore spend the night at the Whitehouse, over and over, so he could watch Laura getting long-stroked. Who knows, maybe he let '8 inch cut' fuck him up the ass. He's bicurious, just like you and Earl Dittman.
Clinton was a piece of shit, but at least he wasn't a fucking Homo.
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 04:05 PM (3D/yw)
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Greg how did you know I've been you know staying at the white house. All I can say is like mother like daughters I like. Jealous ???
It's a joke people.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 08:14 PM (D3+20)
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Howie,
I'd bitch pork her too.
Posted by: greg at July 22, 2005 05:17 AM (3D/yw)
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Greg: Uh, when are confessions held again over there?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 07:17 AM (x+5JB)
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Greg the traitor who claims to be a good catholic is once again back to the liberal thing of butt fucking and such. True colors are hard to hide.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:37 PM (CBNGy)
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On 'It's Not only about Iraq'
Islamic terrorism is all because of Iraq, right? So, the problem is simple, the Islamists are only carrying out a troops-out movement, they're only demanding nothing more than a withdrawal from Afghanistan and Iraq and justice for the Palestinians?
If you buy this line, you must have never asked yourself "if Al Qaeda cares so much about Iraqi civilians then why is it killing so many of them, including children, through suicide bombings?" Or "why did the Madrid cell that staged last MarchÂ’s train bombings continue to plan attacks, even after SpainÂ’s new government had begun withdrawing from Iraq?" Why the bombing of a nightclub in Bali?
We conservatives should avoid hiding our heads in the sand and thinking that Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism, because it does. As Jonathan Freedland suggests in his article appearing in the Bahrain Tribune Daily, "Iraq’s connection to the London bombers is the obvious one: it has served to anger and radicalise a generation of young Muslims across the globe." However, Freedland reminds those that think it's all about Iraq, that "those who monitor Islamism in Britain say that the big surge in growth of extremist groups came not after 9/11 or Iraq but in the mid-1990s – with Bosnia serving as the recruiting sergeant. In the same period Chechnya, Kosovo and Israel-Palestine all came into play – again predating Iraq."
Iraq has been used as a rallying point for a plan that al-Qaeda was following with or without Iraq, and the terrorism was already occurring long before Iraq. All of us on both sides of the political spectrum need to recognize the role of Iraq in terrorism, but by no means is it all about Iraq. And damn it, there is never an excuse for terrorism in the mind of a rational human being. But, of course, we're not talking about rational human beings, we're talking about Islamofascists - Muslim extremists seeking to force all non-believers into submission under Islamic domination and rule, and under Islamic law.
From Freedland we are offered a credible explanation of what the Islamofascists are after, one that even the anti-war/anti-American mentor, Juan Cole, agrees with. Freedland suggests that "central to al-Qaeda's ideology is the "reint in Spain, Morocco, north Africa, Albania, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Middle East, as well as Pakistan, Indonesia and the Philippines." Al Qaeda' agenda predates and goes beyond Iraq. It seeks to end all western presence in those lands it deems Islamic, and place those lands "under Islamist rule as part of the yearned-for caliphate." It seeks to have all of these lands (perhaps only part of Spain), under the rule of Islamic law and the caliphate.
Rule all these lands under Islamic law and a long yearned-for caliphate? As Freedland concludes, "What it adds up to is a more mixed picture than either Blair (or the Bush administration) or the anti-war movement has allowed. Iraq has played a key part – of course it has – in angering large numbers of young Muslims, pulling them towards an extremist message once confined to the lunatic fringe. But that message is not only about Iraq, Afghanistan or even the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza – and we delude ourselves if we think it is."
But you say that Freedland is wrong, and the anti-war left is right, it's all about Iraq. So let's hear what Juan Cole, an anti-war mentor, a liberal Islamist-loving, anti-American, U of Michigan professor, has to say about the matter in the following excerpts from his piece, "Bin Laden's Vision Becoming Reality:"
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If Al- Quaeda loves the Irarqi people, why are they killing so many of them? Because they love them to death.
Posted by: DWC at July 21, 2005 08:20 AM (Suv/B)
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Yeah, muslims are full of love like that.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 08:52 AM (0yYS2)
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Even Juan Cole can get something right once in a while. However, his dissertation is done with all the passion of a wet towel. Just facts and data is how he sees it. He doesn't seem to understand that we don't want a f***ing caliphate. That's why we fight.
He comes from the same mold as so many people in one respect. That being - he secretly thinks that no matter what happens, somehow he'll fare better than others for his wit and cunning. Everyone who wishes for communist rule, a caliphate or any of those social ideas that are put forward by every kook with a pencil thinks that it won't be as bad as it most certainly will be.
Juan Cole hasn't told us anything that we don't already know or couldn't learn elsewhere from someone who truly
understands more than just
some historical fact. Someone who doesn't separate these facts from
human philosophical history. For to do so is irresponsible.
Posted by: Oyster at July 21, 2005 11:43 AM (fl6E1)
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Wretchard at the Belmont Club discussed this issue and I have seen other discussions as well.
The war in Algeria had much of the same Muslim on Muslim violence, in fact IIRC it was the majority of the violence.
The terrorists are trying to show two things to Ali Ahmed Mohd Fahed Abdulla Al-Calamansi (i.e. Joe Sixpack). First the coalition and the emerging Iraqi government can not fulfill a government's first priority. The protection of the citizenry from violence.
The second is if you cooperate this is what happens to you.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at July 21, 2005 12:39 PM (6rdFl)
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It is truly amazing how many people have an IQ lower then mayonnaise.
Does no one realize that the reason the United States was attacked, was because of stereotypes religious extremists had of the western culture. It was all about not having tolerance for other cultures.
And yet it this thread we see both stereotyping and intolerance. Suicide bombers and terrorists are not a representation of the Muslim religion. The shear ignorance of so many is mind blowing. Do you criticize the Catholic religion when a catholic physco murders someone? Does that mean all Catholics are murderers ... of course it doesn't ... just like when a Muslim extremist blows someone up it does not mean all Muslims are terrorists.
If you still don't get it yet ... you are truly lost.
Posted by: IamCanadian at July 21, 2005 03:29 PM (dbvnL)
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"Suicide bombers and terrorists are not a representation of the Muslim religion. The shear ignorance of so many is mind blowing."
You're referring to Moslems, right?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 07:59 AM (x+5JB)
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IamCanadian: Well I see Canadians are still dumb asses. Everyone knows that all muslims are not terrorists. We also know that all terrorists are muslim. You ignorance is mind blowing. When the rag head bastards that Canada is mindlessly importing start blowing canada up then you Cannucks have a right to say something. Until then shut up and tell your army to continue to hide from the terrorists muslims in Iraq. America and the Brits will continue the fight for the nutless others.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 03:57 AM (CBNGy)
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why are you so scared of a few men? shows whose got the balls huh?
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The Face On The Milk Carton
She doesn't know who she is...do you?
"Her name is Sophia Marleen Michl, she is now in Germany with her relatives."
Thanks Linda
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Her name is Sophia Marleen Michl, she is now in Germany with her relatives.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/tsunami/lostgirl.asp
Posted by: LindaSoG at July 21, 2005 05:15 AM (UMgGR)
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Good news! What a precious little girl.
Posted by: Oyster at July 21, 2005 11:23 AM (fl6E1)
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Yeah, good news. I thought it was Improbulus' daughter and sister.
Sorry, that was crass, even by my very low standards. But I hate that that Improbulus!
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 03:56 PM (3D/yw)
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Egyptian Duplicity: Vacation Post
In the time it took to write this post, Egypt could have denided that it's citzens were involved in at least three acts of terror. Becaus as we all know, Egyptians never are involved in terrorism. Especially not al Qaeda linked terrorism.
Lying pieces of shit.
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Suicide bombers are reprehensible bastards, ye they keep coming and coming. Atta's dad said he would "do everything within his power" to promote it. What the hell happened?
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 21, 2005 06:34 AM (ScqM8)
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Uh, DSM, did you just wake up and realize that muslims are trying to kill innocent people for no other reason than their sick religion?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 08:54 AM (0yYS2)
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Not news - "Uh, DSM, did you just wake up and realize that muslims are trying to kill innocent people for no other reason than their sick religion?"
They have been at it for 1,100 years, And Bill Clinton and Gen W.Clark helped them .
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 21, 2005 10:59 AM (Z6yVb)
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Jawa Vacation: Day 1-2
Hey all, I made it to
Kalifornia. It's still here. Seriously. All of it. The land of my birth.
Kalifornia, uber alles (ten points for any punk-rocker-wannabe who can succesfully differentiate the major difference between the first version of the song just alluded to and the later remake).
Last night was spent at a Holiday Inn Express. Very nice. The pool was great and the people even more so for not laughing at my pasty-white skin. And you know the best part about staying at your average middle-class motor-lodge?
No European banana-slings around the water!!
Seriously, don't ever stay at a Hostel in the summer. Ever. The only thing worse than a twenty year-old German in a speedo and Birks are a 40 year-old German in a speedo and Birks.
Oh, and the difference between your upscale urban hotel and the hostel? The 40 year old German in the speedo and Birks is actually pretty thin, has a pony-tail, and has recently been bikini waxed.
If you're a red-state American, it's safer to stick with your freeway accesible motor lodge.
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I heard that song sang by a country group in Sherman, TX. I can no longer see that song's title without laughing my ass off as a bunch of cowboys trying to rap.
Posted by: Chad Evans at July 21, 2005 02:32 AM (Ievlo)
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Dead Kennedys
The first "California Uber Alles" was about Governor Jerry Brown (always smiles but never frowns)
The second was about Emperor Ronald Reagan.
The Tricky Dicky Screwdriver:
1 part Jack Daniels
2 parts Purple Kool-Aid
And a jigger of formaldehyde we got from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 21, 2005 04:02 AM (Kr6/f)
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Sounds like DK - Jello Biafra went on to rip the Bushes big time!
Biafra even attacked himself on stage.. that's dedication!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 21, 2005 06:42 AM (ScqM8)
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I've spoken with Jello, and he's an intelligent but paranoid bufoon.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 21, 2005 07:29 AM (x+5JB)
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You stayed at a Holiday Inn while on vacation? Hell, that's as American as apple pie!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 09:01 AM (0yYS2)
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How many rightISH/neocon bloggers are former punk rock kids? Seems like the percentage is way up there. Have you seen Dr. Frank's weblog (MTX)? Not too shabby.
Posted by: slickdpdx at July 21, 2005 10:55 AM (MjGRu)
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The first version was the Party song of the Socia-st Labor Party 70 years ago. Hoyta Deutchland Morgan Die Welt! I read MY STRUGGLE decades ago when and undergrad. Mien Deutch ist gut nicht!
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 21, 2005 11:06 AM (Z6yVb)
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What's Wrong With THIS Picture?
DENVER (AP) - A few weeks ago, two police cars and two animal control vehicles pulled up at the home of Stef'ny Steffan looking for her beloved 4-year-old pit bull, Xena. Seven officers hauled the animal off to the city shelter, putting her on death row. Xena became an outlaw after Denver won a court fight and reinstated one of the toughest pit-bull bans in the nation.
Since May, more than 380 dogs have been impounded and at least 260 destroyed - an average of more than three a day.
Can you name another animal that's been known to kill humans, is hunted by the authorities, when caught is locked up, but, despite its viciousness, doesn't get the death penalty, unlike these dogs?
Yup, you guessed correctly. The Wild Jihadi.
Shouldn't the dogs get the ACLU lawyers and the terrorists get put to sleep?
(note: I have no opinion on the pit bull ban in Denver. I don't live there)
Post crossed at I Am A Shameless Link Whore er Vince Aut Morire
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When will the dog pound come for Bush?
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 21, 2005 06:32 AM (ScqM8)
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just like pitbulls, Muslim terrorists are born to kill...they both are vicious animals that love to kill, maim, and cause as much pain as possible on the victim of their attack...only thing is at least a pitbull will attack you from any angle while the terrorist would rather try and sneak up from behind and the pitbull will hang on, even if you beat its ass with a bat, it hangs on till either you or it is dead.....beat the hell out of a Muslim and you have to listen to them whine about how you are abusing and oppresing them....i think both are usless animals with no true purpose on this planet but i have more pity for the dog since its only an animal being an animal...the Mulsims are humans acting like animals
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 21, 2005 07:03 AM (9gFP6)
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How about we send the ACLU to the gas chamber also.
Posted by: Improbuilus Maximus at July 21, 2005 09:05 AM (0yYS2)
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American bull terriers are a dog and just that a dog. Actually shepherds bite more people. The problem is when some idiot gets one. Yes the dogs are intelligent and have a natural territorial and protective instinct. They work to please their master at all times. You don't need to "make it mean". In fact the worst thing you can do is put it on a chain and forget it. I've seen both extremes. Wonderful dogs that would never hurt a fly unless you like smack the master. Then you have a problem. Also I've seen ones that were just ruined. My advice love the dog like a child and teach it to obey not to attack. The dog itself is no problem they only do what they think the master wants. Kill the master. F@cking retards. A good bulldog will protect you at all times even if raised to be a big baby. they demand constant attention and love. If you do these things yo will have the best damn dog you ever had. let it sleep with you and never ever ever tease it. Play with the dog at least one hour a day and never use a chain.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 10:35 AM (D3+20)
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A leash is fine even a choker if you need to for walks and trips to the vet. It takes about 2 minutes to train a good bulldog they are smarter than most people.
Posted by: Howie at July 21, 2005 10:37 AM (D3+20)
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Howie: I have a wonderful Pitbull named Rocky. The people I purchased it from when a pup were dog fighters. I will not get into my thoughts on them. Area I live in has so many pits its actually dangerous. Not because of the dogs put because the people let them run loose at times.
Anyway, when I got Rocky everyone said he was too hot bred to ever be trusted around another dog, hog, cow, etc: How wrong they were. Rocky sleeps at my feet. Stays outside with my three other dogs and two cats all day. I have cattle, goats and hogs. Rocky and my other dogs will protect my livestock and my neighbors. As long as other dogs don't bother by animals Rocky doesn't bother them. He loves kids but is too strong for little ones. He will attack on command and he goes hog hunting with us every year.
You are so right. It's how you raise them. Rocky has never been chained or penned. He bullys my other dogs with stares even though they are much bigger than he. I think he knows he is king because he comes in at night.
In Slidell, La. It is now against the law to own a pit bull, American bulldog, Staffashire terrier, German Shepard, Doberman, Rockweiler, mastiff,etc:, etc: because people just didn't care for them correctly. A shame but they had many dog attacks. Mostly, from Dobermans, German Sheperds. But the damage from a pit bull is much worse as he doesn't stop. I love my pit but will not get another one when Rocky passes as now the insurance people are getting involved. Insurance companies want you to put your dogs and swimming pool in a ugly kennel. My experience with Rocky has been great.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 10:58 PM (CBNGy)
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The Dick Was Half Right
Dick Durbin was partially right. There IS torture at Gitmo:
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Two Afghans released from Guantanamo Bay claimed Wednesday about 180 Afghans at the U.S. detention facility were on a hunger strike to protest alleged mistreatment and to push for freedom.
Habir Russol and Moheb Ullah Borekzai, who said they left the prison camp on Cuba on Monday and were flown to Afghanistan before being freed, said they did not participate in the hunger strike. They did not say how they knew others were refusing to eat.
The problem is, of course, that the terrorists have figured out a way to torture themselves.
No one ever said that terrorists were all that bright to begin with.
Now, if we could just convince the rest of Jihadi Nation to starve themselves for Allah, we could end this war right quick, and turn our attention to the important things.
Like the Paris Hilton/Nicole Ritchie feud.
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Wasn't there a report that they were actually gaining wait? This is just a communal diet, nothing more.

Ah yes, here it is:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2083612/
Posted by: Ariya at July 20, 2005 11:11 PM (noCGr)
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Oh this gives me an idea. Have the guards set up tables just a few feet away from the cells, and lay out a HUGE feast, then chow down. I'm talkin' fried chicken, lasagna, ice cream, cake, you name it. Of course curried goat eyeballs might turn these hajjis on more, but whatever. Then after dinner, a show. Fly in some strippers for jello and whipped cream wrestling to entertain the troops, all in sight of the goathumpers. Keep the smell of food going around the clock, and put up fans to get it right in to them. Make the bastards suffer.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 12:20 AM (0yYS2)
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And Now A Sandcrawler PSA
Look, kids, I love you all.
But nothing is more irritating than spending the time to blog about a particular subject, to only then see the first comment on that post is about something totally unrelated to the post.
It's even more irritating to find that the comment is 10 paragraphs long, and the person leaving it doesn't have a blog of their own.
Granted, once the comments on a post reach a reasonable number, it's expected that they'll drift off-topic. But please, have some common courtesy for at least a little while. Is that too much to ask?
Bear in mind that I can edit your comment, on any post, to make you say what I want you to say. You may find yourself agreeing with things you didn't think you would.
thatisall
Ah, to hell with it, I've got more important things to worry about.
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The Nose On Your Face is a blog devoted exclusively to the topic of large breasted women, who run around topless under showers of whipped cream.
You should see my pictures of how they clean each other off.
Posted by: Buckley F. Williams at July 20, 2005 07:46 PM (O2fD/)
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By jove I think you're on to something you power-mad scoundrel!
Posted by: Buckley F. Williams at July 20, 2005 10:03 PM (O2fD/)
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vinnie,
good idea, it's best you sleep on it.
Posted by: Carlos at July 21, 2005 12:11 AM (8e/V4)
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What? No Black Helicopter™ post yet? Greg must be hiding from the JOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZ.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 12:22 AM (0yYS2)
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No need to, Carlos.
I'll just let it ride.
Hang loose, be cool, go with the flow.
I've steered a ship, I can steer a Sandcrawler, no sweat.
Plus I realized something after I wrote that, some people might come here just to watch greg and DSM get pounded by the Jawa crew.
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A Simple Biopsy on Winds of Change
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Armed Liberal asks what ought to be a simple question about the Wilson/Plame/Rove affair:
So here's where I get stuck, and could genuinely use some help.
It looks to me like Iraq did make an attempt - at least a desultory one - to buy uranium.
That's what they were accused of.
Wilson, in his original oped, slams the Administration because
In September 2002, however, Niger re-emerged. The British government published a ''white paper'' asserting that Saddam Hussein and his unconventional arms posed an immediate danger. As evidence, the report cited Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from an African country.
Then, in January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa.
The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them.
So I'm puzzled...it seems that the facts as he knew them supported the claim that Iraq was trying to buy uranium.
So help me understand this gap. Too many smart people don't see it as a gap for me to just assume there is one.
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What's there to know? Just some Libtard's revisionist history. That's all there is to it.
Posted by: Ariya at July 20, 2005 01:43 PM (noCGr)
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Wilson either lied or he disregarded facts. An inquiry by the British into the intelligence indicating Saddam did try to purchase uranium yellowcake in Niger and Congo found the intelligence accurate. What you had with Wilson was an anti-war CIA agent recommending her anti-war husband to go to Niger to prove this intelligence was not accurate.
Also in Wilson's editorial, he did not say Saddam was not seeking yellocake, he only said he could not find the link. The press though ran this as a Bush lie despite the fact Bush said British intelligence learned of Saddam's attempted purchase.
It is all symantics really, but it is nonetheless crucial to understand.
Posted by: Chad at July 20, 2005 01:58 PM (Ievlo)
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As I've posted before, the leftards continue to behave as if they still have a monopoly on the flow of information, and so continue to use the same tactics that have brought them nothing but shame and defeat at every turn. Their greatest "victory" of the past five years has been the outing of Jeff Gannon/Guckert, a gay porn star/escort, or whatever, who, turned journalist, (how appropriate, I thought, but nonethelsess a downgrade), decided to throw out an easy question at a White House press conference, for which he was excoriated in the leftard bogosphere and hounded in the press. They fish for whales, and claim victory whenever they catch a minnow. Plame and Wilson are already being revealed for the frauds, liars, and political hacks they are, so I say bring it on. The more the leftards do to destroy Bush, the more they destroy themselves.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 20, 2005 02:17 PM (0yYS2)
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It was pointed out on a news show the other night (sorry, I don't remember the show or commentator) that these prosecutions usually end up charging someone with obstructing justice due to misstatements during the investigation itself. Rarely is someone actually charged with the original crime.
What if Fitzgerald charges Wilson? Just imagine the glorious Dem/MSM hissyfit.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 20, 2005 02:26 PM (RHG+K)
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Hard to find out anything when everyone knows you and your old lady are spooks. She was an overt spook at that except the five year rule on outing a covert spook was not quite expired yet.
Posted by: Howie at July 20, 2005 02:37 PM (D3+20)
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Oh, there's a gap alright; between the facts and the MSM's pathological desire to prove that Rove did something, anything, wrong.
Posted by: DWC at July 20, 2005 02:57 PM (Suv/B)
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Plame parked in the main CIA parking lot since 1997. Obviously, the CIA did not consider her covert. Anyone could have written down the license number and traced it back to her and her husband. Not mentioned by the media, Mr. Novak check on Plame. He got permission to print.
Posted by: Burt at July 20, 2005 03:12 PM (bfGtb)
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What's there to know?
The Wilson affair itself is of little consequence. But, if you took a poll in the US my guess is that well over half the population believes some aspect of Wilson's account. Under normal non-war conditions the fact that most of the public can be completely mislead by the presentation of facts that, in themselves, are well-known and clear, implies a level of ignorance and deliberate deception that's not good. If the nation is at war the situation suggests the possibility of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, or something equally ignoble.
Chad:
It is all symantics really, but it is nonetheless crucial to understand.
There's no semantic fudging between "no evidence" and "some evidence" that would leave any meaning intact. Now you say that Wilson claimed he found no evidence to suggest that Iraq was interested in yellow-cake, when from his debrief it appears that he did find such evidence. This isn't a semantic issue. It's an issue of fact.
Improb:
The more the leftards do to destroy Bush, the more they destroy themselves.
Frankly I haven't see much of that. One would think you're right, but I can't verify it with something like facts.
Bluto:
What if Fitzgerald charges Wilson? Just imagine the glorious Dem/MSM hissyfit.
What would he be charged with? Lying to a grand jury, or an investigating officer? Unless the underlying situation is corrected (involves a radical transformation of the "public intelligence system:" the press) then charging him will just turn him into an icon. If it comes to a choice I'd much rather correct the underlying problem, of which this stuff is merely another symptom. But, you know... that would sure get something rolling!
Posted by: Demosophist at July 20, 2005 03:29 PM (IbWE6)
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George Bush is the President. What part does reality and facts play in the way the Lefties act?
Posted by: William Teach at July 20, 2005 03:52 PM (cuTsc)
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Demosphist said in response to my post about the leftself-destructing,(see above): "Frankly I haven't see much of that. One would think you're right, but I can't verify it with something like facts."
Let's review: Easongate. Rathergate. This scandal. That scandal. Another scandal. Dems lose Presidential election. Dems lose seats in House and Senate. Continued loss of credibility by media, Democrat machine, and Democrat politicians. Exposure of many organizations as being leftist/social-ist/communist/fascist in nature, i.e. UN, ACLU, AI, et al. Frankly, if I had the time and felt it worthwhile in this forum, I could drudge up tons of info pertaining to the decadent and self-destructive behavior of the left, but I do not, so I'll leave it there. I'm not trying to convince anyone, because I think everyone is pretty much locked into their political positions already, rather, I'm just stating facts. The left is in trouble, and rightly so.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 20, 2005 04:03 PM (0yYS2)
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The truth has nothing to do with what happened. The liberal morons will continue to rant about our President who was elected by a majority of Americans.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 06:26 PM (CBNGy)
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What's scary about the whole Plame affair is the almost universal willingness in the MSM to completely ignore the truth. I mean to act as if the truth doesn't exist. To tell outright lies!
Were it not for the blogosphere we would be in trouble. And you know what the liberals are trying to do to the blogs. We must be prudent and wary, and fight for our right to free speech.
Posted by: Knights Templar at July 20, 2005 07:44 PM (DDXXI)
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The more they rant, the more they sound like the treasonous morons they are. They are kind of like car alarms. Ever hear a car alarm go off? Sure you have. Ever give a damn if the car was being stolen? Probably not. The leftards have had their scandal-O-matic™ machine going at 110% since 2004, and it's about to fly apart on them. At this rate, by 2008 Bush could strangle the Pope in the Oval Office, bury the body in the Rose Garden, release a DVD with a copy of a signed confession, and nobody would believe it. I think some people never heard of the fairy tales "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" and "Chicken Little" when they were kids, but instead read something like "Jane Has Two Mommies".
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 20, 2005 07:49 PM (0yYS2)
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Improb:
Frankly, if I had the time and felt it worthwhile in this forum, I could drudge up tons of info pertaining to the decadent and self-destructive behavior of the left, but I do not, so I'll leave it there.
During the Civil War the Copperheads were on the verge of winning when Sherman took Atlanta. It's simply far too easy for me to imagine a scenario where our innate selfishness gives the modern Copperheads enough leverage to win a vital election. The irony is that they nearly did just that in 2004 were it not for a few historically Copperhead counties in Ohio that voted the right way.
No, I'm not at all confident that they're paying the price they ought to pay. There's a lot of wishful thinking out there. It'd be a bad idea to assume we're on a roll yet, although I cautiously think there's some truth in what you say.
By the way, there's a pro-war Left too, you know. It includes stalwarts like Chris Hitchens and Paul Berman.
Posted by: Demosophist at July 20, 2005 11:58 PM (IbWE6)
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KT:
Were it not for the blogosphere we would be in trouble. And you know what the liberals are trying to do to the blogs. We must be prudent and wary, and fight for our right to free speech.
The point I'm making is that we
are in trouble (which you tend to acknowledge by pointing out that it's scarey the way MSM ignores the truth). We're not in as much trouble as we could be, though.
Posted by: Demosophist at July 21, 2005 12:01 AM (IbWE6)
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Oh I know there's a pro-war left, and I think I've read the works of all six or seven of them. Of course, it's really hard to call them leftists if they're pro-America in any way, because leftism is against everything that America stands for. Better to say that they're real liberals, in the classic sense, with only a few leftist tendencies. I guess I can live with that, but I still hate social-ism and everything to do with it, because Marx was an idiot, he was wrong, and bad ideas don't get better over time.
And one correction: I wrote "The leftards have had their scandal-O-matic™ machine going at 110% since 2004..." That should have been 2000.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 12:51 AM (0yYS2)
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I hate coming in late on these threads, there are just too many choices... it's like your third trip up to the all you can eat buffet. What bothers me most about this whole special prosecutor investigation is that, two years later, he hasn't yet bothered to answer what should have been the very first question asked: was there any crime committed? Increasingly, it appears that there was not.
I think Wilson, like Clarke, was working under the assumption that he could get away with saying whatever he wanted because the documents which showed the facts were classified. So both of them concocted stories calculated to make them important figures and put them in line for jobs in the coming Kerry administration. Then along came those 9/11 Commission hearings, and some of those documents got de-classified, and what they were saying publicly was at odds with what the real records showed. Wilson told the CIA the former prime minister told him Saddam was trying to buy Uranium. He then publicly announced the opposite in his op-ed. There's the only gap.
Posted by: GeoBandy at July 21, 2005 12:58 AM (Z0yfB)
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"It would appear that this scandal goes way beyond Karl Rove and who said what to whom when about Ms. Plame. It certainly is true, though, that turning over that slimy Rove-Plame rock was the way into the larger issues upon which Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald and his grand jury apparently are focusing.
(Ain't it almost always so in Washington? The cover-up is always a greater problem for the perpetrators than the original crime, for inevitably even seamier scandals are unearthed one by one; see the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Iran-Contra, et al. The moral lesson -- admit your mistake early, bear the immediate hit, and move on unencumbered -- rarely seems to "take" among politicians, of whatever party.)
THE EIGHT BLACKED-OUT PAGES
One of the ruling judges on the case of the two reporters who refused to divulge their Plame-outing source was about to go easy on them when he read Fitzgerald's new information -- eight pages of which were redacted from the public -- and said that the national-security seriousness of what he read changed his mind. The court then ordered Time's Matthew Cooper and the New York Times' Judith Miller to testify or else; Cooper finally did, and Miller is in jail for contempt of court.
We don't know what is in those eight blacked-out pages -- and, if they really do involve national-security matters, we may never be permitted to know precisely. But apparently they provide the locus around which Fitzgerald is building a case that could result in perjury indictments, at the least, for a number of Administration officials and perhaps journalists as well.
(Another judge said that the prosecutor's classified filing -- those missing eight pages -- "decides the case." In other words, to quote Lawrence O'Donnell: "All the judges who have seen the prosecutors secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment.")
Further, depending on what Bush and Cheney knew and when they knew it -- and what they did or covered-up in the possible light of such knowledge -- there may be plenty of ammunition for likely impeachment hearings. (Note: Bush hired a private attorney last summer for this CIA-leak case. )"
http://www.crisispapers.org/essays-w/horrors.htm
This goes straight to the top. The 8 pages likely confirm that Bush knowingly lied us in to war.
'National security issues' is the technique Bush is using to save he and Cheney's skin. Will they get away with it?
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 07:11 AM (3D/yw)
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Greg, you do realize that almost nobody reads your tinfoil-hat, Black Helicopter™ crap, and that nobody but that mouth-breather DSM buys it, don't you? You waste your time here, because we're all adults who know how to think for ourselves, so go peddle your conspiracies at DU or something.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 09:11 AM (0yYS2)
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IM,
apparently you do.
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 11:06 AM (3D/yw)
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We don't know what is in those eight blacked-out pages -- and, if they really do involve national-security matters, we may never be permitted to know precisely. But apparently they provide the locus around which Fitzgerald is building a case that could result in perjury indictments, at the least, for a number of Administration officials and perhaps journalists as well.
Some people just can't resist betting on an inside straight, having been dealt only one card. Don't let the fact that you know absolutely nothing about this get in the way of speculation. Personally I think there's a witch coven in the White House and they were fixin' to pit barbecue Ted Kennedy's oversized noggin.
In other words, to quote Lawrence O'Donnell: "All the judges who have seen the prosecutors secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment."
Well, whatever scary Larry says. This is the same guy who, finding he couldn't actually debate the merits of the switfvets' accusations just decided to shout "Liar!" for twenty minutes at the top of his lungs? That Lawrence O'Donnell, right?
Feh!
And people wonder why the Democrats are losing credibility.
Posted by: Demosophist at July 21, 2005 06:29 PM (IbWE6)
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Associated Press British Islamic leaders Wednesday called for a judicial inquiry into what motivated the bombers.
"The scale of disenchantment amongst Muslim youth is very clear to see," said Inayat Bungalwala of the Muslim Council of Britain.
"Various factors are at play: underachievement in education; a high rate of unemployment; discrimination in the workplace; social exclusion, and also the government's own policies, especially in Iraq. The process of how we get four homegrown suicide bombers must be understood and that is why we are calling for an inquiry."
That's a good question Mr. Bungalwala. Almost all of the factors you mentioned have been cited as problems for several American minorities, most notably blacks and hispanics. Oddly, however, we Yanks haven't developed any black or hispanic "homegrown" suicide bombers.
Hmmm...what could account for this discrepancy? Could it be...oh, I don't know....ISLAM?
Seriously, Mr. Bungalwala, if you want to be seen as contributing to the solution, rather than exacerbating the problem, you need to encourage your fellow Muslims to actively expose the monsters hiding within your community.
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Yeah....what a stupid judgement!
Take an example of my country India,,,there is poverty ,there is discrimination , there is unemployment..But does that motivate a person to be suicide bombers ( those who kill innocent peope ).NO!!!
Please eliminate the negative ideologies...there will be peace!!!
Posted by: Roopesh at July 20, 2005 01:36 PM (YxeqH)
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What an idiot.... Does he think the world will take him seriously with this???? He should be looking at his own back door and slamming it shut on the radical islamists.
Posted by: Chris at July 20, 2005 01:40 PM (6JuqA)
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Would someone please make sure that Julian Bond doesn't see this trhead, or the next thing you know, he'll be threatening us all with a wave of suicide bombers.
Posted by: Bat One at July 20, 2005 02:21 PM (6povl)
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Excellent points, Bluto.
Posted by: Oyster at July 20, 2005 03:04 PM (fl6E1)
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When regular folks don't get what they want they bitch and moan about it. When muslims don't get what they want they blow themselves up in crowded spaces.
Posted by: Carlos at July 20, 2005 04:39 PM (8e/V4)
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Abdulla is being brainwashed to kill other people. The real problem is that the so-called moderates support what Abdullah is doing.
Why is it that the only time the "moderates" say anything about these extremists is after the fact? If the moderates really opposed the jihadis they would condemn them for their rhetoric prior to any bombing.
The truth of the matter is that the "moderates" aren't really all that moderate. You either believe in Islam or you don't. If you believe in it, then you will accept open season on non-Muslims.
The Koran clearly says that Muslims cannot be punished for killing and plundering the infidels or non-believers. Hell, it clearly tells them to do just that.
Did Islam spread like Christianity? No, it was kill, plunder, rape, pillage, and do whatever to the non-Muslim. Islam was spread throughout the world by violence, and every Muslim implicitly understands this. That is why they are not encouraging the jihadis to stop.
Do Christians and Jews have the same rights as Muslims in Islamic nations? Weren't we all created equal? It seems that Muslims think they are more equal than others. That is why it was not a crime in the Caliphate these people so want to reintroduce to kill, rape, steal, enslave and otherwise plunder anyone who was not a Muslim.
Until the "moderates" remake Islam itself, this religion will continue to produce people who continue in the vein of jihadism.
Posted by: Knights Templar at July 20, 2005 05:08 PM (DDXXI)
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Roopesh: Good for you for taking a positive attitude. Bad for you if you think Hindu and Muslim can live peacefully together. It is the muslims nature to cause trouble for their neighbors. In fact, their religion demands it. Ghandi realized this when he separated your county. Now the muslim menace is back in India. This temporary peace will not last long.
As far as comparing Hindu to Muslim, its like apples and oranges. One teaches peace and is therefore peaceful. The other teaches hatred and warfare and suicide bombers in its name.
Anyway good luck.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 20, 2005 06:37 PM (CBNGy)
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And here in the UK, where one would assume Hindus and Sikhs would be subject to similar prejudices as (allegedly) are Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs overwhelmingly tend to do pretty well for themselves. Why? Because they make sure they do. They study hard, they work hard, and above all, they don't have a victim complex. They don't insulate themselves from everyone else - sure, they retain their own culture, but not at the expense of being friends with people from other cultures.
Assimilation has become a dirty word, but a degree of assimilation is necessary to get anywhere in life, no matter where we're from or where we're going.
Posted by: Lizzie at July 20, 2005 09:28 PM (CGcOo)
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People always cite reasons like education, etc., but the leading lights of the terror world are almost uniformly well educated and somewhere between middle class and filthy rich. Let's speak plainly; they're just spoiled brat rich kids with no desire to work for a living and too much time on their hands. Like Osama. Like Western liberals. Hmmm, liberals seem to love Osama, could it be that it's simply that they identify with him?
Hindus and Sikhs, on the other hand, generally don't spoil their kids the way most muslims do, and have a much, much, MUCH better work ethic. I do know some Pakistani muslims who work hard and don't give their kids expensive toys, but I think they are in the minority. It all comes down to a lethal mix of too much time, too much money, and too much islam.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 12:59 AM (0yYS2)
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What forces the U.S. to murder people?
An attempt to consolidate global power.
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 07:13 AM (3D/yw)
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Of course, greg. Of course. Now go back to your comic books, sweetie, the adults are talking.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 10:16 AM (0yYS2)
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Why does that idiot Greg post on this blog?
Because he has a stupid blog no one reads or comments on.
Why doesn't anyone read Greg's blog?
Because it has the same sucky posts he puts on this blog.
Why does Greg exist?
Because abortions were illegal when he was born.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 21, 2005 08:08 PM (DDXXI)
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Jesusland joe,
I'm agin abortions, except in your case abortion should be permitted up until the 140th sesquicentialmester.
Posted by: greg at July 22, 2005 05:23 AM (3D/yw)
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Is this Lizzie actully saying all is well with the muslims in England? They who is doing the rioting and bombings? Who is screaming death to non muslims at their mosques?
Do some liberals have her head in the sand. There is more to come Lizzie. See what you say then. The muslims have found out that they can do their thing in England. Now they will do their thing, beware, there is much more to come. As long as muslims are in England there will be trouble.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 06:00 AM (CBNGy)
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Greg, you liar. You know you love abortions. Why don't you go over to DU or the Kossacks to peddle your prattle. I'll bet there are plenty of your kind over there. You'd feel quite at home.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 22, 2005 10:39 AM (DDXXI)
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UK Setting Up Global Extremists List
The UK plans to establish a global extremist database. The database would list "unacceptable behaviors" like radical preaching, websites and writing articles intended to foment terrorism. British Home Secretary Charles Clarke also plans to expand the definition of 'direct incitement' to include 'indirect incitement to terrorism.' The new definition "targets those who, while not directly inciting, glorify and condone terrorist acts knowing full well that the effect on their listeners will be to encourage them to turn to terrorism." Getting listed could mean expulsion from the UK [correction: expulsion isn't an option yet] or being denied entry into the UK:
BBC—The UK is to set up a global database of extremists who face automatic vetting before being allowed in, Home Secretary Charles Clarke has told MPs.
He said the database would list "unacceptable behaviour" such as radical preaching, websites and writing articles intended to foment terrorism.
Individuals' presence on the list means they may face exclusion from the UK.
Hopes for an international conference on Islamic extremism were also outlined by Prime Minister Tony Blair.
Mr Clarke told MPs he wanted to apply more widely the home secretary's powers to exclude an individual from the UK if their presence is deemed "not conducive to the public interest". [. . .].
Story cross-posted at OpinionBug.com
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I'd like to see the US set up such a list (or at least in conjunction with the UK) for just such a purpose. However, the lefty "internationalists" in our country will apply the free speech amendment to fight it, even if our constitution doesn't protect those who are not citizens. They'll waste more of our time and resources in doing it too, because that is what they do - obstruct for the sake of obstructionism. There's been too much precedence pointing to the probability that that's exactly what will happen.
Posted by: Oyster at July 20, 2005 01:05 PM (fl6E1)
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I think a well formed perl script running against the archives of Jawa, LGF and Rantburg would give them a good start.
Posted by: Eric J at July 20, 2005 01:16 PM (hrQvk)
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"The new definition 'targets those who, while not directly inciting, glorify and condone terrorist acts knowing full well that the effect on their listeners will be to encourage them to turn to terrorism.'"
Watch out, liberals!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 01:22 PM (x+5JB)
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By this definition, Gorgeous George Galloway will be towards the top of the list.
Posted by: Ratan at July 20, 2005 06:10 PM (pdzQc)
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The USA should set up a list of extremist which would include hollywood,the demacratic party the liberal left-wing news media and various others as well as the telaban and al queda
Posted by: sandpiper at July 20, 2005 08:11 PM (nMpEK)
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We don't need a list sandpiper, you just named them all.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 21, 2005 12:59 AM (0yYS2)
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I'm on the list, no doubt.
Let me offer them my 'mean finger'.
Fucking Nazis!
There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.
Check out this support facility a few miles from me in Bastrop, Texas. I've seen it with my own eyes. There are 650 brand new white vehicles that have been sitting there for at least 5 years, just waiting for a UN decal to be slapped on.
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/UN_vehicles.htm#Photos
'They are ready for the 'gathering'.
But you welcome it, because you're Nazis. Admit it, Sandpiper and IM.
Is there no one on this blog who will speak out against this?
Posted by: greg at July 21, 2005 07:28 AM (3D/yw)
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Gee, greg, you got me. I'm the one who is always having to point out your patholigical, paranoid hatred of Jews, so I'm the Nazi. Yep, you really outed me. You are a stupid piece of shit and I would love to watch a jihadi saw your head off with a dull blade.
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Pathological.
Pathological.
Pathological.
I think I've got it now.
By the way, greg, how's Austin these days, hot and muggy? You gave away your location, fucktard.
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The problem with these so call list is when do they stop.
Just remember the line from Satisfaction by the Rolling Stones:
"But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarrettes as me". Like YBP says it might start off
with terrorist, then move on to Liberals, then even on to moderate
conservatives. So you best beware what you ask for.
Posted by: Butch at July 21, 2005 03:30 PM (Gqhi9)
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You're a mean one, Mr. Greg.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mr. Greg.
You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
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"Like YBP says it might start off
with terrorist, then move on to Liberals, then even on to moderate
conservatives."
Butch: Yeah, but I'm in favor of this!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 07:10 AM (x+5JB)
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IM: We have known for months where Greg lives. And other things. The difference between people of character is that we will not do as the liberal muslim lovers do and publish a person private info. That is wrong, only a low life piece of garbage who is losing every argument he enters would publish a person address, employment and phone # on the internet. We added Greg's info to our list because we consider him a person would should be watched in the future. However, if you need Greg's and will keep it in private E-mail me.
Greg. You are a liar. Rome my ass.
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The Yemeni Tea Party
The long suffering populace of Yemen is mad as hell and they're not taking it anymore.
Jane, as per usual, has the details.
Why should we care? Because despite what we've been told, the government of Yemen is not our ally in the GWOT. They brought the Cole bombing conspirators in through the front door, then smuggled them out the back when no one was looking.
Just like in Iran, there is a democracy movement in Yemen that should be encouraged mightily by the free nations of the world. Maybe these riots will make them sit up and take notice.
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Everyone knows the democracy movement in Yemen is just another plot by AmeriKKKan imperialists and Joooooooz to oppress muslims and steal oil, just like the democracy movements in Belarus, Ukraine, Lebanon, et al. All we're after is their oil. Right, greg?
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A sacastic troll alone is a sad sight
Posted by: Max at July 20, 2005 12:18 PM (HFKAk)
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IM: I have a good freind whos' father worked in Saudi Arabia for many years for a big oul company. I asked one time why he would go all he way over there to work. Two reasons. One you make really good money. The other was that the Saudi men just don't work hard like Americans. They did have a couple of good hands from Saudi bu mainly they would either now show up or not make enough trips ( trip is when you wear out the bit and have to pull out and add a new one) or they would all just stop working and let 10,000 barrels of oil spill all over the desert. From what he said over there the women do all the work and the men do as little as possible.
Posted by: Howie at July 20, 2005 12:32 PM (D3+20)
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Improbulus,
For the last time, I don't hate the Jews. I dislike the power the Israeli Lobby exerts over the US. Hai capito? Give it a rest now.
In fact, in a few minutes I'm going to the Jewish 'Ghetto' (not much of a ghetto anymore) here in Rome to have dinner. It's where one finds truly excellent authentic Roman cuisine such as tripe and bachlava (the fish, not the Greek dessert).
Posted by: greg at July 20, 2005 12:36 PM (3D/yw)
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Max: Sorry that one went over your head.
Greg, we don't buy it. About every other post you make has something about Jews in it. You can plead off with "it's about Israel" or "Zionism", but we know what you're really saying. Maybe if you didn't wear the tinfoil beanie when you post you might make some sense occasionally. By the way, do you ever see any other people out there in Texas, or do you just get your news from passing tumbleweeds, because some of the shit you come up with is just hilarious, or would be if times weren't so grim.
Howie: I was in the Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm in 90-91, and I can personally attest to the worthlessness of Saudi men. They are the laziest bastards I have ever seen. Almost all work is done by non-Saudis, except for a few things like jewelry sales, police, and military. The country would stop dead in its tracks if all foreigners left, especially the Philippinos and Indians. Every foreigner who lives there hates them because of their arrogance and the demeaning way they treat the people who feed them. I say screw 'em, take the oil and send them out into the deserts with their goats and camels.
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Improb:'Greg, WE don't buy it.'
'WE' as in the many fragmentary identities you assume in your schizophrenic disorder? The VA sucks, or they would be taking better care of mentally disabled Vets such as yourself. 'WE' know the cause of your medical discharge.
There are many readers on this site who recognize that my gripe is focused on the power that the Israeli Lobby has on the U.S. political environment and on Zionism, but not on Jews per se. Two of my life long friends are Jewish.
Look who's getting bribed by AIPAC. Most are Democrats. They are bought and paid for.
Career contributions (a partial list):
Carl Levin (D-Michigan) $657,887.00
Tom Harkin (D- Iowa) $520,450.00
Tom Daschle (D - South Dakota) $463,135.00
Frank Lautenberg (D - New Jersey) $434,078.00
Arlen Spector (R - Pennsylvania) $381,623.00
Mitch McConnell (R - Kentucky) $368,675.00
Richard Durbin (D - Illinois) $324,171.00
Max Baucus (D - Montana) $317,348.00
Jeff Bingaman (D - New Mexico) $261,425.00
Charles Robb (D - Virginia) $255,093.00
Tim Johnson (D - South Dakota) $159,837.00
Sam Gejdenson (D - Connecticut) $335,601.00
Richard Gephardt (D - Missouri) $172,295.00
Shelley Berkley (D - Nevada) $166,355.00
David Obey (D - Wisconsin) $149,100.00
Frost Martin (D - Texas) $134,114.00
Thomas Delay (R - Texas) $ 58,050.00
Eliot Engel (D - New York) $118,918.00
Sander Levin (D - Michigan) $110,527.00
Nita Lowey (D - New York) $ 89,088.00
Benjamin Gilman (R - New York) $ 84,543.00
Lane Evans (D - Illinois) $ 82,319.00
Barbara Boxer (D - California) $150,794.00
Jane Harmon (D - California) $ 74,771.00
Howard Berman (D - California) $ 60,050.00
Bob Filner (D - California) $ 79,514.00
Jon Kyl (R - Arizona) $ 77,525.00
Ted Stevens (R - Alaska) $ 67,200.00
Frank Murkowski (R - Alaska) $ 64,000.00
Wayne Allard (R - Colorado) $ 50,500.00
Thomas Strickland (D - Colorado) $ 43,370.00
Rosa DeLauro (D - Connecticut) $ 41,400.00
James Maloney (D - Connecticut) $ 55,325.00
Joseph Biden (D - Connecticut) $101,507.00
Daniel Inouye (D - Hawaii) $175,175.00
Dennis Hastert (R - Illinois) $ 62,350.00
Dan Burton (R - Indiana) $ 67,000.00
Mary Landrieu (D - Louisiana) $125,389.00
Steny Hoyer (D - Maryland) $ 54,775.00
Ike Skelton (D - Missouri) $ 64,450.00
Kent Conrad (D - North Dakota) $196,689.00
Byron Dorgan (D - North Dakota) $101,100.00
Ronald Wyden (D - Oregon) $200,562.00
Let me turn the table on you. I might argue that you hate muslims, but I recognize that the bulk of the readers on this forum don't hate muslims, the hate Islam.
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I hate Islam and all that make excuses for their behavior.
They scream death of America.
I scream death to Islam.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 22, 2005 10:30 PM (CBNGy)
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all the hate towards the "brown people" from the desert, is pretty sickening...but then again its the american way...yesterday to today...grow up people!!!
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I've given you all I've got Captain
You know Scotty always had just a bit of power left for the good Captain. I note this AM that James Doohan our beloved
Scotty has died this AM at 5:30 at his home in Redmond Washington.
Good bye Scotty We'll all miss you and thanks for all the good times.
Updated:
A few more notes on Mr. Doohan. He was a WWII D-Day vet with the Canadian army. He took six rounds loosing a finger and was saved by a silver cigarette case when one hit him in the chest. So not only did he play tough he was. He was born on march 3rd 1920 in Vancouver BC. He is to be cremated and his ashes launched into orbit. Mr Doohan suffered from Alzheimer's and Pneumonia upon his death at age 85. Last year he was given a star on the walk of fame.
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He was beamed up to the great starship in the sky. He will be missed.
Posted by: Carlos at July 20, 2005 01:06 PM (8e/V4)
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Aww, damn. *sniffle* Poor guy had nothing to live for since B&B frackin KILLED Star Trek. You bastards!
Kracko: I got rights!
Scotty: You got nothing. You mind your place, or you'll be wearin' concrete galoshes.
Kracko: You mean cement overshoes?
Scotty: Aye.
A Piece of the Action
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/Scotty's classic, but Trip makes my engines shake! *PURR*
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As a Star Trek purist (it's not really "Star Trek" without the original cast) this is sad news to me indeed. Godspeed, James Doohan.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 20, 2005 02:15 PM (RHG+K)
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The engines they can not take the strain ahh HE,S DEAD JIM
Posted by: sandpiper at July 20, 2005 08:13 PM (nMpEK)
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WTW "ladies first"
My first nominee is Melissa Irene Tanner, 37 of Oklahoma. I nominate her for drinking and giving birth while drunk. The baby was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. At the time of birth her BAC was .29 and her daughter .21. Source AP.
LetÂ’s not for get Stephanie McMullen age 29 from VinnieÂ’s post yesterday for Munchausen by proxy.
I’ve go one more “lady”, waiting on news director from WKMS.
OK lets move on to politicians.
William Carr a Murphysboro Ill. Alderman for driving drunk. Hey itÂ’s fair buddy.
"charged with driving under the influence and three other traffic violations. The 25 year old was elected to represent Murphysboro's Ward One this past April"
Note the story has rolled off but I'll post a link anyway for credit.
I nominate the entire country of Egypt for this. Hey dumb asses the evidence is in England.
London Mayor Ken Livingstone.
"Livingstone, who earned the nickname "Red Ken" for his left-wing views, won widespread praise for a defiant response which helped unite London after the bombings. But he has revived his reputation for courting controversy in recent days".
Drug companies I saw a commercial for Humira on TV. You can slow your arthritis but at what cost. Just read the side effects that include lymphoma. Yes always wanted to trade my joint pain for a good old case of lymphoma.
Just read the list of awesome artificial drugs that together might be of help you if you just have the money.
Kind of explains this.
Lewis Kuykendall for being an ass or getting too much ass IÂ’m torn on one hand way to go dude on the other well heÂ’s an ass.
Holy cow IÂ’ve got more.
more...
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Well, if they have the right to murder their babies before they're born per Roe v. Wade, don't they also have the right to abuse them before they're born as well? What about the mother's right to choose to drink and smoke crack, etc.? How dare anyone infringe on these womens' rights! It's just another example of imperialistic, patriarchal war-for-oil, hegemonic running-dog capitalist, Halliburton!, fascist, neocon, Zionist ,(that means JOOOOOOOOOZZZZZ!!!), Christian, anti-feminist, anti-Islamic, AmeriKKKan hatred.
Right, greg?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 20, 2005 12:10 PM (0yYS2)
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Roe vs Wade did not give women the right to murder their
babies before they were born because they are not babies yet.
They are the potential to become babies. And if the woman
wants to terminate the pregnancy, then there is no reason
for her not to have a drink. If they want to try and have
a child, then they should discipline themselves.
Posted by: Butch at July 21, 2005 03:54 PM (Gqhi9)
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WHO IS THE GIRL THAT IS DOING THE CURRENT HUMIRA COMMERCIAL?
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July 19, 2005
Halleluja!
I mean, really, no offense to our readers from the Greatest Generation.
But could this nation handle a Supreme Court Justice named "Edith?"
Besides, what squeaking lib couldn't confirm a guy with two first names?
"John." It's so...ordinary American, doncha think?
No Supreme Court Justice with two first names would have ever voted in favor of the Kelo decision, I can tell you that right now.
I'll leave the intelligent analysis to the other co-bloggers.
UPDATE: It's Rove's fault!
UPDATE 2: The inmates weigh in
UPDATE 3: Noted lard eating fat bastard Michael (GET INNA MY BELLY!!!) Moore is....advertising? We'll, um, check back with him later, when he sobers up and realizes he's a Rich White Kapitalist.
UPDATE 4: Confederate Yankee says the bad gay attack squad is out in force. Although this time, their target is a tad on the small side.
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[Your exercise instruction. Bend at the waist. Pucker lips. Kiss your ass goodbye on my posts - MDV]
Posted by: Downing Street Memo Sucks Big Donkey Dicks at July 20, 2005 05:21 AM (ScqM8)
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I looked at DU.
(I always feel like I need a shower after having been there). That's the problem with these lefties. They're citing Roberts' background at DU for what reason? Because he upheld actual law? No. Because they wanted him to ignore law to make the defendent whose side they were on happy. That's what these weenies want. Since they can't get enough of their own kind in the House to pass legislation, they want the judiciary.
The left is hollering they want a "moderate". Moderate my butt. What about someone who will interpret the law as it's written? The constitution? The left wants legislation from the bench. They're so transparent.
Schumer is already circling the wagons. Within minutes of Roberts' nomination, Schumer was frothing at the mouth and getting it all over the microphone.
Posted by: Oyster at July 20, 2005 06:38 AM (YudAC)
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DSM: Better be careful. Just saw this story on Michael "Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions ... on a sesame seed bun!" Moore's site:
"Should there be an investigation of the Downing Street Memo?"
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 07:33 AM (x+5JB)
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DSM: If you're worried about "our kids and grandkids," then you should hope that he takes a negative stand against infanticide--unlike O'Connor.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 07:50 AM (x+5JB)
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He is the ugliest woman I've ever seen. Oh well I for got to add seven in my Bush calculator he always takes things a bit further than I anticipate.
Posted by: Howie at July 20, 2005 08:25 AM (D3+20)
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Well, not the day it happened, but pretty damn close.
Posted by: greg at July 20, 2005 09:18 AM (3D/yw)
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>>>>"Bush's choice is another fascist pig who will SCREW YOU OVER to stuff the wallets of the Walmarts, Fat Lawyers and Hallibacons."
Then he'll feel quite at home with the rest of the Liberals on the Court who voted in
Kelo to allow corporate interests to oust the little guy from his home so they can make a buck.
Posted by: Carlos at July 20, 2005 09:53 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
Let's be fair. We're getting screwed by the Libs and the Cons. There is an organism that oversees the false left/right paradigm. It uses both fronts to achieve its goal, which is to consolidate power globally and enrich themselves.
For example, Pharmaceutical Corporations have used both the Cons and the Libs to slam drugs through the FDA. They convinced the Cons that there was too much regulation. They also used the Gay Lobby to support more rapid commercialization of drugs by convincing them that anti-AIDS drugs were taking too long to be approved. Corporate America plays both sides like a fiddle.
If proles like us were smart, we'd join forces, we'd say fuck it, we declare bankruptcy. We owe nothing.
Why is it, that everytime there is a war, we get stuck with the bill and the Halliburtons of the world profit from our exsanguination?
I'd be more inclined to support a war that enriches the average American. Let's tell China, Japan, Korea and all those who hold 'our' debt to fuck off. When this happens, it will be a sign that this truly is a government 'for the people, by the people'.
You in or out?
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>>>"Let's be fair. We're getting screwed by the Libs and the Cons."
That's one thing we might agree on. I'm looking at the back of my iPod right now and it says "Made in China". Our elites have sold us down the river.
Posted by: Carlos at July 20, 2005 10:59 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
Dang it! Finally we've found some common ground!
Let's use this as launch point and broaden it from here.
Easy does it.
If we 'proles' can find a common platform, we can easily take our country back, 'like a horse shaking off flies'-(The Prophet, Orwell, "1984".
Posted by: greg at July 20, 2005 12:06 PM (3D/yw)
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And you both profess to be Christians, No???
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 01:28 PM (x+5JB)
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They should think about getting a room
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>>>"If we 'proles' can find a common platform, we can easily take our country back, 'like a horse shaking off flies'-(The Prophet, Orwell, "1984".
And when we "shake off the flies" we'll get what? Jacobins and guillotines? or Bolsheviks and gulags? the final "true" utopia?
Instead we should simply hold our politicians accountable. We have a pretty good system, we're just not using it because most people don't give a shit.
Posted by: Carlos at July 20, 2005 04:43 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos:'And when we "shake off the flies" we'll get what?'
Carlos,
We keep our Constitutional Republic, declare bankruptsy and get out of debt. Shedding the yoke of debt will greatly lower the tax burden.
Currently, the American people shoulder their own debt and to an extent the debt of the world. When the IMF forgives the debt of 3rd world nations, who do you think picks up the slack? We do. Another example, we the American people, will pay $277,000 for each Israeli settler that is relocated. They use us like a credit card with no limit.
We have become the beasts of burden to the globalists. They trick us into thinking that it is for our own good by offering welfare programs and by 'stirring the pot' and producing mafiosi type 'hits' like 9-11 and 7-7 to scare us into paying 'protection money' to their racket. Enough!
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YBP,
I just want to point out that O'Connor never supported
infanticide, because as I have stated before, they were not
infants yet.
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Okay, Butch. She supported tissue-icide. Still there are millions of people not alive today because of it.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 22, 2005 07:08 AM (x+5JB)
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403853: Hey, does anyone know where I can find a list of gas stations with low prices in my area?
Posted by: Debra Riley at October 17, 2005 07:26 PM (TYiPH)
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SCOTUS Nominee Revealed!
8 minutes left and the new SCOTUS nominee is....
Here!
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Egypt: el-Nashar an Innocent Lamb Wrongfully Accused
Magdy el-Nashar, the Leeds scholar who was arrested in Egypt following the London terror bombings, has been absolved of any wrongdoing by the Egyptian government. From
The Guardian:
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Egypt said Tuesday that a detained chemist wanted by Britain for questioning about the London bombings had no links to the July 7 attacks or to al-Qaida.
Government spokesman Magdy Rady said in a statement that a Cabinet meeting Tuesday reviewed an Interior Ministry report that "made clear that there is no link between Egyptian chemist Magdy el-Nashar with al-Qaida or the (London) bombings."
So there.
Of course Egyptian officials offered no explanation for this inconvenient report from CNN:
(CNN) -- The explosive TATP was found in connection with the investigation of the London bombings, three knowledgeable sources have told CNN.
One of the sources said that investigators found the TATP in the Leeds apartment rented by Magdy el-Nashar, an Egyptian biochemist detained for questioning Thursday in connection with the London attacks.
I'm sure there's a logical explanation for these seemingly contradictory reports. After all, it's not as if the Egyptians have a
history of lying about terrorist incidents or anything.
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All 5 of these guys were framed. Can you say psyop?
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 04:42 PM (3D/yw)
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This is a fine example of what happens when everybody dances together. CNN and The Guardian pretty much waltz together, but they screwed up on this story. Good post.
Posted by: Mike at July 19, 2005 04:44 PM (6krEN)
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"All 5 of these guys were framed."
Why do you think this, Greg?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 19, 2005 05:16 PM (VLVlH)
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Off topic, but I finally found the report I mentio0ned a few days ago.
Here is the report I heard on the evening of 9-11. My first impression was that Flight 93 was shot down, a prudent action under the circumstances. This report was never repeated. It went into the 'memory hole'. Why has this been covered up? Why shoot down the one plane in which the passengers were taking control? Were they about to discover the secret of 9-11?
Google 'Globalhawk'.
"We got the call about 9:58 this morning from a male passenger stating that he was locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93 traveling from Newark to San Francisco, and they were being hijacked," said Glenn Cramer, a 911 supervisor.
"We confirmed that with him several times and we asked him to repeat what he said. He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down. He did Hear Some Sort Of An Explosion and Saw White Smoke Coming From The Plane, but he didn't know where.
"And then we lost contact with him."
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912crashnat2p2.asp
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The Washington Post reported that leaders of Congress -- including Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, R-Texas and House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, D-Mo. -- were told at a briefing by the Capitol Police that the hijacked plane might have been bound for the Capitol or Camp David, the presidential retreat in Thurmont, Md., 85 miles southeast of the crash site, according to participants in the meeting.
The participants discussed a possible shoot down of the aircraft, said Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.
"The question I heard asked was: 'Who has the authority to order a commercial jetliner shot down by the military?' " Pence said. However, the congressional leaders soon learned that the plane had already crashed.
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 05:24 PM (3D/yw)
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YBP:"All 5 of these guys were framed."
'Why do you think this, Greg?'
YBP,
I discussed that in the Caption Contest.
I thought about you today. I hopped the Eurostar from Rome to Florence. (Man this tourist business is hard work. It's so hot, I drink 5 liters of water a day and piss like a Russian race horse). But that's not why I thought of you

Inter alia, I saw Donnatello's, Mary Magdalene (sp?) at il Duomo dell Santa Maria di Fiore Museum. Unlike all the other statues, it's carved from wood. The gnarls in the wood provided him with the perfect medium to depict her as a twisted wretched whore.
Have you read, 'The Da Vinci Code', by any chance. What do you think of Brown's claim that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife and that there are living descendents of Christ? Was Donnatello's work part of a smear campaign by the Church to stifle that theory? I don't necessarily agree with the theory, but Rabbi's were expected to marry. It is thought provoking. I know the Church thinks the book is heresy. What say you?
It's nearly 1 AM here. Got to go.
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 05:43 PM (3D/yw)
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Was the Egypt Air transcript ever released? If not, why not? You (Bluto, NOT GREG) piqued my interest.
Posted by: slickdpdx at July 19, 2005 05:55 PM (MjGRu)
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Good-grief, what's with all the blithering static?
Framed or fooled and murdered by some terrorist with speed-dial, like the car-bomb drivers in iraq who's slight and sticky remains have been found handcuffed to the steering wheel, or the guy so dop[ed-up on narcotics he forgot to pull the pud-plunger, or whereever they hide the trigger.
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at July 19, 2005 06:27 PM (vbPWL)
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No no no, it was five Jooooooooz who swooped down in their Black Helicopters™ and caused greg to have a small penis, low IQ, and subsequent inferiority complex due to gettin' no love from the ladies... uh I mean they blew up the buses. Yeah, that's what I meant to say.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 19, 2005 08:05 PM (0yYS2)
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Greg: Without getting into the sordid lies in the book, I'm familiar with its content but consider it blasphemous lies. Rabbi's were expected to marry, but certainly Jesus did not fit the mold of a typical rabbi.
I loved Florence. Are you visiting Venice? If so, make sure you visit Harry's Bar in Venice (a Hemingway haunt), but don't wear shorts.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 07:25 AM (x+5JB)
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YBP,
As a good fellow Catholic boy, I value your opinion. It's good fiction though. I forgot to mention that I read the book at my last confession. I'll mention it next time. I expect to get about 23, 'Our Fathers' and 32, 'Hail Marys'
I may go to Venice tomorrow.
YPB:'but don't wear shorts.'- Is it a gay bar?

I know, lot's of Holy places don't allow shorts above the knees or women to have exposed shoulders. But a bar? A Hemingway haunt?
YBP:"All 5 of these guys were framed."
'Why do you think this, Greg?'
Please read my 2 new posts regarding this subject on the "Halleluja" string.
Posted by: greg at July 20, 2005 09:29 AM (3D/yw)
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Wanderin' Greg: Europe, for how "progressive" it is (not always a good thing), is still old-fashioned in many ways. I guess there " No Shorts" rule is an attempt to maintain some sort of dress code. Of course they wouldn't have dared throw "Papa" out!
I'm not sure I would use the words "good fiction," though. It's misleading. Something that may be technically well-written is not enough for me to want to taint my mind with it. I think that in many ways, the ideas behind something are more potent than word choice.
Only 23 "Our Fathers" and 32 "Hail Marys"!!! That's lettin' you off easy, my friend! The pillory! The rack! Or both! At the same time!
(In these liberal times, let's hope its not required reading at the seminaries.)
Will read those posts. Stay well, and don't eat any coconut from street venders.
YBP
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 20, 2005 09:58 AM (x+5JB)
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He was just released, thank (insert your god here). His life is most probably ruined over this. Do a web search for Aafia Siddiqui, she wasn't so lucky.
Posted by: asad behim at August 10, 2005 05:32 AM (CDzbl)
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I BELIEVE THAT IN THESE TOUGH TIMES AMERICA NEEDS TO LEGALIZE GIRLS GONE WILD VIDEOS TO MINORS. JUST KIDDINNN! now ON a more serious note what is happening today all over the world. people (NATIONS) are getting to scared of brittian and america. unless they have specific rights that stand out. like in this case there isn't an extraditoin treaty between egypt and great brittian. under this assumption was mad on to a giochemist who "fled" britan just a week BEFORE the bombings took place. and so the supposed "MASTERMIND" was arrested in egypt. now what does he do. HE COULD GO BACK TO LONDON AND GET ARRESTED AND QUESTIONED, OR STAY IN A PLACE THAT WILL NOT GIVE A PROPER JOB AS A BIOCHEMIST WITH A PHD. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. just kiddinnn. NOW HIS REPUTATION HAS BEEN DROUCHED WITH SUCH HARSH ACCUSATIONS. I personally think that he would have liked to be made famous over spectacular research that will help mankind. insted he becomes famous over being called the "MASTERMIND" of a killing spree. NOT A VERY GOOD THING TO BE CALLED AFTER JUST RECIEVING A PHD. now I AM FINISHED RAMBLING ON IN THIS SUBJECT MATTER. AND SO GOOD NIGHT FELLOW BLOGGERS.
Posted by: OSAMA YO MAMA at August 11, 2005 08:52 PM (W78Em)
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Supreme Court Nominee
The announcement has been made that President Bush will reveal his nominee for the Supreme Court at 9pm EDT. My thought is that whoever is selected to go before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a thorough grilling has to be presently puckered, knowing full well that every single wart will be discussed and debated. It will be a professional and personal beating.
That is, except for one person, Dick Cheney. He's the only person that probably needs a couple weeks to unpucker from his recent, reported globally in 30 minutes, proctological exam. It seems that he would be a logical choice since he's been immunized to the personally penetrating process.
So, if President Bush desires to minimize pain in the confirmation process, he'll nominate Dick Cheney. And, what fun there would be.
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 19, 2005 03:49 PM (Z6yVb)
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I think it's high time that we had a JOOOOOOO on the Supreme Court. Yeah, let's completely meld this country with Israel. That's the ticket.
Q:Why won't Israel ever become the 51st U.S. State?
A:Because then they'd only own Two U.S. Senators!
Posted by: greg at July 19, 2005 04:49 PM (3D/yw)
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Uh greg, ever hear of Ruth Bader GINSBURG??? So, were you born stupid, or did you go to school for it?
All together now: Duu-UUU-uuuhhhhhhhhhhh.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 19, 2005 08:08 PM (0yYS2)
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She's Jewish? Did not know that, thought she was Amish. One can't have too many Jews though, can they?
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