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July 25, 2005

One Man Gets it Right

Former Prime Minister John Major says that those who 'spit hate' against the Anglo-Saxon way of life should be deported.
Good for him:

People who "spit hate" at the British way of life should be deported, Tory former Prime Minister John Major said.
Mr Major spoke of the "uncomfortable reality" that many terrorists were born or lived in the UK but had been taught to hate its culture.
"There seem to be many people who, for reasons that are irrational, dislike the Anglo-Saxon way of life," he said.
He called for heavier penalties for those who incited violence at this "particularly sensitive time".
"Always difficult to balance this against freedom of speech but I think, at the moment, it is justifiable to protect the public," he argued.
Mr Major added: "As far as those who literally spit hate at our country and there are some of them - they spit hate at our country and they incite - I personally would be prepared to deport those where it is clear that what they are doing is causing civil unrest and may cost other people, as a result of that, their lives."

God bless this man. Now let's just hope that the politicians will hear reason and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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Vietnam War Story

Euhporic Reality is rolling out an incredible story concerning Team 24 during the Vietnam War. It will be in seven parts so this is something I shall check back for. Thus far the team is deep in the jungle in Vietnam and about to be surrounded by the NVA.

This type of story is what medals are given for. Who knows, maybe these men did get medals. We have to read more to find out.

Chapter 1

Chapter 2

And speaking of the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda apparently didn't get enough publicity during her book tour. She is planning on taking a bus (running on vegetable oil) trip to oppose the war in Iraq. Perhaps we should try to get her a meeting with the enemy in Iraq too. The difference being of course our enemy today would kill her instead of allow her to hang from the weaponry.

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1 Here's a Nam story.. America lost in a foreign quagmire, a war being fought at a ferocious pace, draining the treasury and alienating the world, killing thousands and thousands in a desperate attempt to counter a growing nationalist insurgency. Or, is that Iraq today?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 26, 2005 02:37 AM (ScqM8)

2 Downing Street Moron: Seen any purple cows lately? Can't think of anything except one topic? Friggin nutcase. This guy is losing it.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:58 AM (CBNGy)

3 Klanrooster, join HELLIBACON as a truck driver and play a real game of chance!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 04:01 AM (ScqM8)

4 Now that Kit Jarrell and Heidi Thiess of Euphoric Reality have apparently finished their now 10-part series, which portrays us as villains, and Gary Linderer and his band of brothers as selfless heroes, we will be posting our rebuttal on the web next week. We will place a notice on Wizbang and on the Thiess/Jarrell site when it's ready and give a pointer to the web location. The conduct of these two women in writing their "Brother Against Brother" series has demonstrated beyond a doubt that they are ill qualified to tell this story fairly. Our mistake was believing Thiess and Jarrell when they said they were "investigative journalists." Instead, they have clearly demonstrated that they ascribe to the Michael Moore school of blogging and employ the Dan Rather method of investigative journalism. We have also learned a great lesson that you canÂ’t tell a blog by its cover. We should have requested a copy of THEIR DD214Â’s before we began dealing with them in depth after they responded to our original email and said they wanted to investigate our allegations against Gary Linderer. Their DD214Â’s would have given us a better idea just how qualified these two women actually were to do a story of this magnitude and complexity. In their zeal to support Mr. Linderer and his buddies, they have deliberately misstated important facts, omitted inconvenient facts that support our allegations against him, and have engaged in extreme hyperbole and mischaracterization, the likes of which one usually sees on extremist left-wing blogs. Our rebuttal next week will illustrate exactly why they are ill qualified to investigate anything to do with combat operations in Vietnam, and, in our opinion, anything to do with combat operations period. We will show readers that Thiess and Jarrell have been suckered in by Gary Linderer and his very vocal group of supporters, and that they have engaged in the very same sort of disinformation tactics that Linderer and his men have employed with great success over the years. Because of their behavior, it is apparent to us that Thiess and Jarrell are of a character that causes them to feel a deep kinship with Linderer and his men, and as they got to know Linderer and his supporters more fully, they felt a deep desire to be accepted by them. ItÂ’s easier to go with the group against the two than it is to stand with the two against the group. And, if you have to distort facts or omit damning evidence in order to accomplish that, well, the ends justify the means. The irony is that these two gullible and mendacious women have helped Gary Linderer's small group of "Vietnam fabulists" embellish the 20 November 1968 story even further, even to the laughable point of contradicting what they wrote in their books. As weÂ’ve said over and over again, if a thousand people tell a lie, it doesnÂ’t make it the truth. Stay tunedÂ…

Posted by: Don and Annette Hall at August 05, 2005 02:25 PM (YRez4)

5 HereÂ’s a good idea. Why donÂ’t you actually rebutt the story instead of going after Kit and Heidi? DoesnÂ’t that make more sense? If your story is so accurate, how could it be ripped apart like it was? Furthermore, if it was accurate, why would threatening emails and voicemails be left? The truth shall set you free, but the truth does not need to be pushed out through a series of lies and distortions which is evident by Don and Annette Hall. Nor does truth need to be represented by threats and accusations of property damage. You are barking up the wrong tree in trying to leave this comment in relation to a post I've made. If you only knew. Heh.

Posted by: Chad Evans at August 05, 2005 02:40 PM (Yxk8B)

6 At last we have Annette HallÂ’s response---posted as commentary to Chapter One and again to Chapter Ten. True to Mrs. HallÂ’s accustomed form, it is more a personal attack than a response to anything in Brother Against Brother. But then, what else do the Halls have at this point, beyond personal attacks? After years of trumpeting the documents they claimed to have backing their contentions about the bloody events of 20 November, 1968, and the character of Gary Linderer, all of the HallÂ’s Â“documentary evidenceÂ” has been obliterated by the many documents that the Halls somehow (willfully?) overlooked, and that Kit Jarrell and Heidi Thiess managed to find. Heidi and Kit also managed to find and interview many survivors of the battle, eyewitnesses to the battle, and many others who listened to it on military radio nets as it was happening. The Halls have absolutely none of this testimony. They never have, and never will. The HallsÂ’ various imaginary renderings of those bloody events never had much (if any) credibility. And now they have none. What other response is available to the Halls, except for their normal personal attacks? Silence, perhaps? An apology along the lines of the one they once promised Kit and Heidi if they were proven to be wrong? Well, theyÂ’ve been proven to have been gravely and maliciously wrong, but there is no apology from the Halls. And now AnnetteÂ’s silence has been broken. Annette Hall accuses Kit and Heidi of having written a series Â“which portrays us as villains, and Gary Linderer and his band of brothers as selfless heroesÂ…Â” Annette and Don Hall are, rightfully, not even mentioned in the chapters that deal with the 20 November, 1968, battle. But once they do appear in Brother Against Brother, once they begin their vendetta against Gary Linderer and all connected with them, they most certainly do come across as villains. Annette blames Kit and Heidi for that portrayal. But almost all of the material in Brother Against Brother that deals with the Halls is either in DonÂ’s words or AnnetteÂ’s----and almost all of this reeks with misrepresentation, slander, paranoia, viciousness, and attempted character assassination. Mrs. Hall writes, reasons, and spells much better than her husband, but when it comes to jealous bile and virulence, the two of them are in a league they share with no one else IÂ’ve ever encountered. If the Halls come across as villains, it is because the Halls showcase their own villainy in their almost every word and action. All Kit and Heidi did was print what the Halls themselves had sent out to them and other people, but that was enough to show the HallsÂ’ true character. As for Gary Linderer and the other men---Lurps, aviators, reaction force, and even North Vietnamese soldiers---who fought in that 20 November, 1968, battle that Annette Hall and her husband have spent years trying to portray as a fake contact: if they are Â“heroesÂ” it is their actions that day that made them so, not anything Kit or Heidi wrote about them these many years later. It certainly isnÂ’t a judgement Annette Hall or her husband are qualified to make. If Gary Linderer has a Â“band of brothersÂ” it is because Gary has earned the brotherhood of many. Annette HallÂ’s husband, poor Donald, on the other hand, has no brothers left anymore and no real friends either. Donald Hall has done much to earn his outcast status, and he deserves it deeply. But those of us who have had to deal with the Halls over the years know to give Mrs. Hall her share of credit for DonaldÂ’s sad state. Her nagging, goading, encouragement and irrepressible tendency to speak for him have surely played an instrumental part in his downfall. Along with being the only literate writer involved, was Annette Hall also the animating spirit behind their self published book, I Served? And was it Annette who encouraged Don to submit the notorious Â“Vulture FlightÂ” story from that book to Behind the Lines? For years Annette Hall has been commenting on military matters about which she knows only what her mentally jumbled husband tells her. But in her commentary she writes this of Kit and Heidi: Â“We should have requested a copy of THEIR DD214Â’s before we began dealing with them in depth after they responded to our original email and said they wanted to investigate our allegations against Gary Linderer. Their DD214Â’s would have given us a better idea just how qualified these two women actually were to do a story of this magnitude and complexity.Â” Amazing! The blind stupid gall of this woman to write such a thing and post it on a site where every reader already knows what sort of person she is! Kit and Heidi are veterans. They do have DD214s---and they are under no obligation to show them to the Halls. But where is Annette HallÂ’s DD214? As far I know, she is not a veteranÂ—except perhaps by very, very weak injection. If she is a military veteran, why doesnÂ’t she send out as many copies of her DD214 as she did of her smear sheet against Gary Linderer, so that all the thousands of people to whom she libeled Gary will be able to judge her qualifications? In her commentary Annette writes: Â“it is apparent to us that Thiess and Jarrell are of a character that causes them to feel a deep kinship with Linderer and his menÂ…Â” Mrs. Hall is not a stupid woman, at least not if her husband is setting the baseline for stupidity. Does she not realize what a fine compliment it is to write that Heidi and Kit are of a character to feel a deep kinship with Gary Linderer and men like Riley Cox, Jim Venable, Jim Bacon, Frank Souza, Mike Reiff, Art Herringhausen, Terry Clifton, Mike Reiff, Tony Tercero and the other men of the reaction force, the aviators who flew that day, and the hundreds---no, thousands---of other people, veterans and civilians alike, who consider Gary Linderer a true gentleman and a brother? Mrs. Hall should remember that Heidi Thiess and Kit Jarrell started looking into all of this on her instigation, not Gary LindererÂ’s. She obviously didnÂ’t expect them to really investigate, nor did she expect them to write as well as they do. But she should have expected at least some minimal amount of intelligence, honesty, and basic decency. Kit and Heidi have abundant reserves of all those qualities. Mrs. Hall may have some intelligence---particularly compared to her husband. But she seems to lack even a shred of honesty and decency---and doesnÂ’t seem to have much grasp of reality, either. Because she lacks these qualities herself, she apparently didnÂ’t expect to find them in Kit and Heidi. Mrs. Hall made a major mistake there! Mrs. Hall and her husband can---and probably will---continue to threaten people. They can post whatever they like on their website, and the idly curious may visit their site, but no one will ever believe them again. They can claim to have unused and secret hidden information and documents theyÂ’ve been holding back, but again no one will believe them. Their credibility in all matters is gone forever. They can---and probably will---threaten to dig into peoplesÂ’ private lives for things to use against them, and perhaps they will manage to hurt someone or someoneÂ’s family. They can continue to focus their lives around that Great Satan, Gary Linderer, but their devotion will not be rewarded. They can keep snapping and snarling and clawing themselves ever deeper into the pit they have dug for themselves, but they will be alone in that pit. They will never recover whatever honor and whatever place among decent humanity they may have once had. Donald will never dare to show his face at any military reunion or veterans function where anyone is likely to recognize him, and Annette will most likely suffer the utter humiliation of remaining married to Don for the rest of her life. Mrs. Hall can rage and slander and threaten all she wants. She and your husband have been exposed as the spiteful and poisonous clowns that they are. No one respects her, no one fears her, and except for laughs, no one will listen to her anymore. Kenn Miller

Posted by: Kenn Miller at August 06, 2005 01:52 AM (BqNFt)

7 typo in last paragraph above should read "she and HER husband"

Posted by: Kenn Miller at August 06, 2005 01:55 AM (BqNFt)

8 The following is stated on the cover of Gary Linderer's books: "Gary A. Linderer is the publisher of `Behind the Lines,' a magazine that specializes in U.S. military special operations. In Vietnam, he earned two Silver Stars, the Bronze Star with V device (for Valor), the Army Commendation Medal with V device, and two Purple Hearts. His first two books were selected by the Military Book Club." Gary Linderer has consistently claimed to have earned two Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts, all for the same day's combat in Vietnam, on 20 November 1968. He used these high honors to enhance his professional reputation and credibility as an author and his fitness to be consulted as an expert on LRP operations. Records I obtained in 2000 by FOIA request from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO., refute Mr. Linderer's claims of two Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts for the same dayÂ’s combat actions of 20 November 1968. Because Mr. Linderer has lied about his medals, according to the NPRC records, then readers have to view everything Mr. Linderer writes in his book with a skeptical eye. The text of Linderer's NPRC record is as follows: National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records 9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 OFFICIAL LIST OF AWARDS The Official Military Records of GARY A. LINDERER [SSN removed] show that he is authorized the following awards and decorations for his service in the US Army: SILVER STAR BRONZE STAR MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AND "V" ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AIR MEDAL GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/4 BRONZE SERVICE STARS COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN RIBBON W/DEVICE (1960) REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/PALM UNIT CITATION BADGE SHARPSHOOTER BADGE W/RIFLE & MACHINE GUN BARS EXPERT BADGE W/AUTO RIFLE BAR ////////NOTHING FOLLOWS///////////// R. L. HINDMAN, Director

Posted by: Don at September 28, 2005 07:10 PM (1x8pO)

9 Annie get your gun, get on the flight line and be ready to head out to God knows where. That's what Life was about for us Crazy Cav. People and Company L Rangers. I've been there and I know, Gary Linderer is no make-up artist. Believe him or move on with what little time God has left for you. Banshee 56 alpha out!

Posted by: Larry J. Allen at October 11, 2005 10:02 PM (qiNbf)

10 I'm off subject here slightly, but I'm looking for a little help. My grandfather has asked me to replace the vietnam era medals his ex burned years ago. I have a copy of his 214 but some of this stuff is like greek to me. I was in the AF so i thought i'd have no problem. my issue is this: GCMDL 2nd award: is the device an oak leaf? and is it an oak leaf on the medal as well? it would be in the AF, but we don't have those stars... so i'm a little lost. the other question i have is the 2 OS Bars listed... is that in reference to the VNCM w Dev (60)? and if it is, what is the device for the OS bars for the medal? how do i attach that to the medal? any help i can get would be appreciated. thanks

Posted by: jenn at October 26, 2005 10:24 AM (qo1SU)

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Celebrities who can't keep their ignorant pieholes shut...

This makes me so mad:

Ricky Martin ought to stick to what he knows. The singer-turned-humanitarian is in the Middle East this week, and is vowing to change public perceptions of Arab youth:

"I promise I will become a spokesperson, if you allow me to, a spokesperson on your behalf. I will defend you and try to get rid of any stereotypes," the 33-year-old singer told youngsters from 16 mainly Arab countries at a youth conference on Monday.
The children, ages 14 to 16, expressed concern about being labeled as "terrorists" by the West.
"I have been a victim of stereotypes. I come from Latin America and to some countries, we are considered 'losers,' drug traffickers, and that is not fair because that is generalizing," said Martin, who was born in Puerto Rico.
"Those comments are made out of ignorance and we have to sometimes ignore the ignorant, but we also have to educate the ignorant. You have me here as a friend," he said.

OKOK. Up to this point, I'm fine. Go for it. I mean, it's a free world, dowhatevahyawant. This is my problem:

Martin, whose hits include "She Bangs,""Shake Your Bon-Bon" and "Livin' La Vida Loca," posed for photos with fans, at one point draping over his shoulders a traditional Arab kaffiyeh headscarf with the slogan "Jerusalem Is Ours" written in Arabic on it.

Oh. OK. Funny. The terrorists feel that that Jerusalem is theirs, too.

B'uh? ... I mean, if he's trying to promote a more compassionate opinion of Arab youth, I mean, that they're peace-loving and not terrorists...shouldn't he start off by not wearing slogans that have been exciting war and bloodshed SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME???

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The Blog Sabbath Caption Contest

Ya'll know what to do.

We have a winner!

Darleen, from Darleen's Place, for:

"New PETA convert attempts proselytizing canivores wherever he finds them."

There were so many excellent entries the rest of you get second place.

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Turn out the lights, the party's over

Howdy, friends. Were any of you unfortunate enough, as I was, to see the newest incarnation of "War of the Worlds"? Jeeebus, that sucked.

But part of the premise was interesting. To soften up the world's infrastructure, the aliens employ this thing called an EMP blast. Knocks out every piece of electronic equipment for hundreds of miles and fries it. When that happens, of course, chaos ensues and the world is ripe for the plucking. No radio. Even the cars won't start. A flash in the heavens, and we're in 1889.

Maybe y'all weren't aware of this, but the EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) isn't just science fiction. Any nuclear explosion in the atmosphere can make us go Dark Ages, and we're totally not set up to deal with it. Read this piece by Frank Gaffney in Imprimis, it'll get you up to speed.

Think about this: Let's say China wants to invade Taiwan and America has a President with some cojones who says, wait a minute, buster. Well, instead of incinerating an American city and provoking massive retaliation, China just lights off three megaton-range nukes way up in the sky--one over the east coast, one over the west coast, and one dead center to shut down NORAD and such like. Or skip the middle one, and light them off twenty miles from shore in international waters. "Wow, look at those nuclear tests we just launched!"

No American would probably even die as a direct result of the blast. (Fallout, rioting, etc. would cause a load of trouble, of course.) But by the time we get back online, and figure out what hit us, there's a PRC flag flying on Taipei.

Friends, this is one more reason we need to get serious about some sort of missile defense system for America. Land-based, space-based, whatever works. (I'm thinking space-based so we can tag incoming rockets in the boost phase, i.e., on the way up; however a lot of people don't think that a space-based system is practical.) We need to keep nukes out of the hands of terrorists, sure, but a lot of bad guys already have missiles that can reach our shores (including North Korea). And according to the article linked above, Iran is test-launching missiles in a manner consistent with EMP deployments.

Okay, back to terrorism.

--See Dubya

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1 And all our computers are Made in Taiwan. So getting them replaced in that scenario becomes rather more difficult.

Posted by: IO ERROR at July 25, 2005 01:43 AM (HaVXj)

2 Most military hardware is hardened against vulnerability to EMP's. You can bet your ass the communications channels for NORAD, etc are also. Some equipment is still using tube amplifiers because the components are too massive to get fried by EMP induced surges. Fiber optics are immune to EMP effects - although the electronic devices at the ends of the FO links may not be. While the civilian infrastructure will certainly be AFU's by an EMP attack, the military? Not So Much.

Posted by: West at July 25, 2005 02:15 AM (hNOfU)

3 Why the hell should we sacrifice ourselves over renegade provinces in China? Screw it, we don't need Taiwan to be capitalist, we need to stop screwing around in other people's business!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:22 AM (ScqM8)

4 We need to ask ourselves why we have so many entangling foreign alliances and foreign bases that devour our souls. I say screw it, send Klanooster over to work for Hellibacon as a truck driver and give the fighting man a break.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:43 AM (ScqM8)

5 "A Theological framework undercuts reasoned debate, and reduces policy issues to a choice between Good and Evil, thus reducing the threat of democracy. Critics can be dismissed as “anti-American,” an interesting concept borrowed from the lexicon of totalitarianism. And the population must huddle under the umbrella of power, in fear that its way of life and destiny are under imminent threat… N.C. Yep, the fightin' 101st Chickenhawks huddling like rigidly obedient sheep under the umbrella of the (Good, invading, bombing, torturing)Bushist faith while the Ladens, French, Spanish and most of the world (Bad, surrendering, head-sawing) deserve punishment. Emmanuel Goldstein is the enemy, Oceania - fight on for BUSH BROTHER!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 03:18 AM (ScqM8)

6 "I remember the arrogance that accompanied the "shock and awe" bombing campaign that kicked off the war in Iraq more than two years ago. The war was supposed to be quick and easy, a cakewalk. The enemy, we were told, would fold like a dinner napkin. And then, in the neoconservative fantasies of some of the crazier folks in the Bush crowd, the military would gear up for an invasion of Iran." An op-ed by Bob Herbert, titled "Ideological Madness"

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 05:09 AM (ScqM8)

7 EMP is a popular fear mongering tool, but there is little public discussion of what an EMP strike is likely to destroy or interrupt. To induce voltage, a magnetic pulse must move across a conductor and that conductor must be connected to a component in order to carry damaging voltage to it.

Posted by: EMP at July 25, 2005 08:30 AM (x2eX4)

8 EMP - "conductor must be connected to a component" - you mean like every piece of computing equipment in the world is conected to the miles of copper wire that provides power to it? BTW - the longer the conductor is, the more of the EMP electro-magnetic wave is intercepted (cut through by the wire) and the larger the surge is. DSM - you sure like the sound of your own voice, dont'cha? Maybe you could spare he rest of us & just scream at the mirror for a while....

Posted by: West at July 25, 2005 08:37 AM (hNOfU)

9 The nice thing about being America is that whatever the Chicoms do to us we can do them a lot worse.

Posted by: Carlos at July 25, 2005 08:47 AM (8e/V4)

10 You might be interested in this article on Iran testing missles for an EMP weapon.

Posted by: The Uncooperative Blogger at July 25, 2005 09:42 AM (h2HXW)

11 For a really scary EMP nightmare google "Flux Compression Generator" that is a type of homemade E-Bomb. Popular Mechanics magazine says it would cost around $450.00 to make one.

Posted by: dave at July 25, 2005 09:48 AM (DO6vD)

12 Carlos, I assume you are speaking of a China/USA military comparrison, cuz regarding dollars and cents they have us over a barrel and are getting the lube ready.

Posted by: Max at July 25, 2005 11:37 AM (HFKAk)

13 I think we'd see those three air-nukes coming... long enough to erase China in the process. I understand the premise of the post but that scenario doesn't play well.

Posted by: Hoodlumman at July 25, 2005 12:22 PM (1iJzK)

14 Yeah, what if... Now back to the real world...

Posted by: Professor Peter Von Nostrand at July 25, 2005 02:01 PM (REz6/)

15 You don't need a nuke to generate an EMP. The effects of the EMP itself has long been isolated and weaponized, the "E-Bomb" that was shown in magazines/TV before the Iraq war is one example, the other is the "flux compression generator" I showed earlier.

Posted by: dave at July 25, 2005 04:21 PM (DO6vD)

16 I suspect plans for Faraday Cages will be selling out soon. Most military and national security sytems--including communications--is hardened. No consumer products, to my knowledge are hardened. That part of WoW wasn't too bad. But they had a little continuity problem when they allowed a digital video recorder to keep working. It make a very photogenic shot, but completely blew the premise of the scene.

Posted by: John Burgess at July 25, 2005 04:37 PM (wiywb)

17 http://www.endtimesreport.com/faraday_cages.html nice howto.

Posted by: dave at July 25, 2005 05:47 PM (DO6vD)

18 Just wrap youself in aluminum foil and join the rapturists on their trek across Meopotamia!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 26, 2005 02:39 AM (ScqM8)

19 EMP has been discussed extensively in misc.survivalism, but set your filters to eliminate anything posted to more than two ng's if you stop by. I suggest using Google, instead. To hideously over simplify, a nuke has to be set off above the atmosphere to allow the Compton Effect to create a large enough virtual antenna to cause a damaging EMP. However, one nuke far enough above Dodge City, Kansas could wipe out all vulnerable electronics in the Contaminated 48. No need for more than one, except, perhaps, to create problems to someone trying to knock down the missile. Protecting *stored* equipment is trivial; just put it in a metal container. Equipment in use can be much more a problem, as any sort of wire can bring a damaging spike into your equipment. Filtering that would allow desired signals (such as DSL or cable internet connections) and yet block the spikes, is not trivial. The e-bomb cannot effect more than a few city blocks, and few of us are involved with anything that might be worth the trouble. I'd guess targets would include the Stock Market, big city police stations during a riot, a university where some kinds of research are being done, and things like that.

Posted by: Offbreed at July 26, 2005 03:13 AM (zNjIG)

20 "Welcome to the human race"

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 26, 2005 03:48 AM (ScqM8)

21 Since when does a monkey like Downing Steet Moron know anything about the human race. He's not a member.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 26, 2005 09:20 PM (CBNGy)

22 Klanrooster, Screw you you racist twit, boared stroker of the most stagnant kind!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 26, 2005 11:00 PM (ScqM8)

23 Downing Street Moron is losing it. Soon another one bites the dust. Getting confused moron? Talking in circles? Can't focus? Losing control? Not much left in your traitorous ass.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:54 AM (CBNGy)

24 Traitor Klanpigscrewingsantorumrooster, you can't handle me so you want me banned, just like anyone who's not white. Look in the mirror and see your hatred for what it is!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 04:00 AM (ScqM8)

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July 24, 2005

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride: Rusty almost gets a fatwa

Here's a reader comment from 'Malik' who writes from the exclusive area of Marina Del Rey, California. Scary thought that a jihadi or one of their supporters is a) American b) rich. Notice that he identifies America as YOU although he posts from an exclusive area of the California coast and writes like a native.

America it's time for you to be oblieterated just the way the all-mighty Romans were by the Barbarian hordes. See, they never thought they were vulnerable. They thought they had everyone standing at their doorstep well below. How ironic that history repeats itself...hmmm....

Wouldn't it be equally ironic if a) history did repeat itself b) you correctly analogize the U.S. to Rome c) but you fail to see the Islamic world for what it is: Carthage.

PS-Spent the day at my brother's house in Huntington Beach. Man, it's like 15 degrees cooler down there. Lucky bastard!

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1 Fatwas R Us are having a sale at Finsbury Park Mosque.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:44 PM (ScqM8)

2 I think he's a democrat. Upset about Plame thing. Give him Ted Kennedy ph# in case he wants to go for a swim to cool off. Oh well, I just love that faith of peace they just can't get enough.

Posted by: Mike of New Milford at July 25, 2005 12:11 AM (eWMcD)

3 What the barbarians fail to understand is that numbers no longer count. Technology and inventiveness is what will destroy the enemy in modern times. The barbarians really haven't advanced much in the last 1000 years. Whatever they have is merely purchased from or copied from the west. The muslims and some others simply do not possess what it takes to be competitive in the modern world. Their religion is anchor about their necks that will always hold them behind the rest of the world.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 12:58 AM (CBNGy)

4 Hardcore racists like Klanrooster are doomed to extinction like the Dodo and the cursed Nazi.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:24 AM (ScqM8)

5 A Republican Senator suggested the same day they contained scenes of “rape and murder.” No wonder Rumsfeld commented then, "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse." So much for barbarians, KlanRooster! Let me quote you, KR: KR: "What the barbarians fail to understand is that numbers no longer count." “We don’t do body counts” - General Tommy Franks, US Central Command KR: "Technology and inventiveness is what will destroy the enemy in modern times" "Col. Bob Davis, an Army explosives expert, called the new elements in some bombs "pretty disturbing." In a brief interview, he declined to discuss the changes, but said the "sophistication is increasing and it will increase further." KR: "The muslims and some others simply do not possess what it takes to be competitive in the modern world." "Al Hurra, the US government-funded satellite television facility that airs its product to the Middle East, hasn't caught on. Kicked off with much fanfare on Valentine's Day 2004, the $100-million-plus station (the name of which means “The Free One” in Arabic) has been met with more DISDAIN than acceptance in the Arab world....Al Hurra's strategy, however, does not jibe with these objectives. Its focus has been to win audience share in perceived Middle East “media wars” by aiming for slick commercial television — by trying, if you will, to out-Al Jazeera, the Qatar-based satellite broadcaster that is by far the most popular in the area and the one that has been compared to Fox News." Shall I go on Klanrooster?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 04:13 AM (ScqM8)

6 So how long now till DSM is banned, I want to mark the day on my Calender. He has long since cross the line from heckler to frenzied left wing moonbat, and even new people comment on his lunacy (see thread on EMP) Time to take out the trash yet? It's stinking up the place.

Posted by: dave at July 25, 2005 10:53 AM (DO6vD)

7 Well now, DSM, iffen you go posting whole paragraphs as quotes, shouldn't you at least give us a little idea wherebouts the word originated?

Posted by: RicardoVerde at July 25, 2005 10:58 AM (3DOby)

8 Wanted to address something said by "greyrooster" in a previous thread: "Artin: Please remember you have a choice of going back to where you came from if you are unhappy with America and its policies. Us Americans don't have that choice. We must stay and continue to support this country. I guess you left your country because it was better than America. Good reason huh!" Yes, maybe I will go back to Chicago, IL where I was born you stupid racist, ignorant assclown. Your response, unfortunately, does not surprise me because there are thousands upon thousands of low lifes like you spewing such swill and tripe on a daily basis. Rather than having the ability to engage in reasoned, logical debate, you resort to ad-hominem attacks, baseless name-calling, accusations and unoriginal responses like "go back where you came from."... Like some sort of 10 year old. Oh, by the way, before you start vomiting any anti-Islam bigoted rhetoric, I'm Christian and an Armenian-American (not that you would know where Armenia is). My passport and says the same things as yours bitch - US CITIZEN. I'm damn proud to be the same, but I'm always ashamed of my country's citizens such as yourself. Do you have nothing better to do in life than blame all your problems on minorities? Get a life.

Posted by: Artin Betpera at July 25, 2005 12:08 PM (iWm+P)

9 Pարեւ, Artin. Is there an Armenian Catholic Church in Chicago?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 25, 2005 12:25 PM (x+5JB)

10 I'm still amazed by your call for a MAD policy to prevent a nuclear attack on the west (which, if it doesn't work you advocate a nuclear response against Mecca). Weren't you and Professor Chaos the ones who sat there in the data lab in the immediate days after 9/11 and pooh poohed my assertion that if we treated the war on terror like an actual war we'd create more terrorists and be less safe? Didn't you both argue that I was assigning a western mode of rational thinking to nonwestern peoples that would supposedly not reason the way I was describing? Please correct me if I have this all wrong, but it seems to me that any resort to a MAD strategy is falling exactly into the same trap you both accussed me of falling into: that is precisely, assigning a western mode of rational thought to Islamic terrorists. And let's also not pretend like MAD actually worked well during the Cold War. Recent documents and comments from the top officials involved in "running" the Cold War demonstrate that it was mere luck that prevented the Cold War from going nuclear. This is not a reliable strategy whether or not your enemy thinks like you or not... but it could only be more dangerous if it doesn't.

Posted by: Professor Peter Von Nostrand at July 25, 2005 01:46 PM (REz6/)

11 Artin, Rooster's an ass. Pay him no mind. YBP:'Is there an Armenian Catholic Church in Chicago?' YPB, Are you trying to make a point or just curious?

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 02:59 PM (/+dAV)

12 Greg: Actually, I'm curious about why you want to know.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 25, 2005 03:35 PM (uL7sR)

13 Yes, I do believe that there is more than one Armenian Apostolic Church in the Chicago area. However, I moved to Souther California when I was 1 yr. old. Southern California has many Armenian Apostolic Churches which bear many similarities to the Catholic Church. And that was today's fun fact.

Posted by: Artin Betpera at July 25, 2005 04:00 PM (iWm+P)

14 I was just wondering if you were giving this poor man some shit or if you were sincerely interested in Armenian Catholic Churches. But, it's none of my business. My bad.

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 04:00 PM (/+dAV)

15 Sorry, Greg. My defenses get up sometimes. Did the "Hello" in Armenian work from your computer (before Artin's name)? Some systems don't read the characters properly. I wasn't giving this person (man or woman?) anything--I sincerely wanted to know. The Armenian rite is very beautiful--I've been to a similar Mass at a Maronite Catholic Church, where the language is in (I believe) Lebanese. I've never heard of the Armenian Apostolic Church--wonder if it's Catholic.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 26, 2005 06:47 AM (x+5JB)

16 Artin: I could care less about your cry baby Armenian ass. It was your bitching about how you and yours were treated in my country that brought about my response. The message is. If you are uncomfortable here go back. Asshole. By the way. The Turks, Russians and Iraqis were obviously correct in their assessment of Armenians. As the Brits recently found out. What a passport says doesn't show what your heart says. Why did you Armenians come here? To bitch? What makes you an American. Coming here to take advantage of what real Americans fought and died for. Americans build a decent country and then people like you come to take advantage of it because you fucked yours up. No. Your not an American. Just another foreigner with a piece of paper. Bitch. And I'm quite familiar with Armenians. Particularly the ones in California. Extremely racist except when they wish to cry about the crimes they commit. Armenians are disliked by every country they are in. Why does several countries keep persecuting (according to Armenians) them? Because they are good citizens? Bullshit. Think about it. You asked for it and you got it. Now go join up with the other traitors who have joined you. Just associating with them shows what you are. Wish to cry about how you are treated in America? Go back to Turkey for a refresher. Racist bitch.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 26, 2005 09:41 PM (CBNGy)

17 In addition: You are the one who started calling names first. Sorry, pal but you cry babies are all alike. You start with the name calling, racist thing and then cry like babies when someone strikes back. The Greyrooster always hits back.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:50 AM (CBNGy)

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Redefining Yellow

By Demosophist

Today a Texan with a name that sounds like it ought to belong to a character in a Buck or Roy Rogers movie won the most grueling elite endurance contest on the planet for the seventh straight time! If he had never been near death with the "big C" today's accomplishment would've been enough. Indeed, it would have been enough had he stopped six years ago, after winning in 1999, but his recovery and return to bicycle racing not only at the top of his sport, but to create a legacy that will probably never be matched, has inspired people I love to fight against a similar infirmity. (Isn't it odd that he's the second great American cyclist in 20 years to live such a lesson?) more...

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1 Yellow is the color of someone who yells, "Bring it on" to the bloodthirsty enemy forces while soldiers under his control are getting shot at.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:05 PM (ScqM8)

2 We're mighty proud of our boy, Lance, here in Texas. Many are calling on him to run for office now. Govenor, US Senator or US Representative Anyone know anything about his politics?

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 08:41 PM (/+dAV)

3 I take great pleasure in seeing a Texan beat the French at their own sport in their own house.

Posted by: Carlos at July 24, 2005 08:43 PM (8e/V4)

4 its great to see that Lance was able to overcome all challenges to him by the other competition and the challenges of the race itself...when a human{man or woman} puts their minds to accomplish something of good, anything is possible....nothing is impossible...Hurrah for Lance...and its good to see that no matter how hard the French tried to mess up his last race, he was able to prove them all wrong and win it for the 7th time in a row

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 08:48 PM (9gFP6)

5 Mrs. Dread Pundit asked me today if I knew that riding in the Tour de France takes an average of one year off a person's life. She didn't remember where she'd read this. Anyone else heard anything about this? Personally, I think having one of those teeny-weeny seats shoved up my pooper for a week would take about FIVE years off.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 10:30 PM (RHG+K)

6 I am a bike racing fan. The 12 months comes from the fact that it takes 11 months of preparation to race for 1 month. Professional bike racers must approach racing as a full time job to be competitive. I believe it to be the most grueling of all sports. In addition the planning and mental aspect requires the most of any sport. It is also a TEAM sport. The word I is never used.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:04 AM (CBNGy)

7 You never see the over weight, flabby competitors that you see in football and boxing in bike racing. When younger I would have loved to be able to compete in cycling. However, body types play a major role. Big boned, large people just don't have the stamina.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:09 AM (CBNGy)

8 Mrs. Dread Pundit asked me today if I knew that riding in the Tour de France takes an average of one year off a person's life. She didn't remember where she'd read this. Anyone else heard anything about this? I'm sure somewhere someone has such a theory based on some sort of logic, but it'd be almost impossible to verify empirically. To a lesser degree lots of "common people" ride week-long cycling tours in the US and elsewhere, a practice that probably started with RAGBRAI over thirty years ago. And in the case of the latter it's probably the food and booze that takes time off their lives rather than the riding. Frankly, it just sounds like someone who doesn't like to exercise.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 25, 2005 09:52 AM (IbWE6)

9 A leftist radio station in Toronto spent an hour taking calls from conspiracy theorists believing Armstrong was never treated for cancer. They believe he spent his time in the hospital being engeneered for superior athletisism. Widened air passages, expanded hearty valves for super blood flow. Bushs'little pet project. To stick it to the frogs.

Posted by: Dave K at July 25, 2005 10:15 AM (vvaFL)

10 Dave: Bushs'little pet project. To stick it to the frogs. That's hilarious. I wonder how the theory applies to Greg Lemond? That'd be a trial run by Bush 41 I guess, with perfected bionic technology for Bush 43. Except that Lance's first victory took place during the Clinton administration and Greg's was during the Reagan administration before he was re-engineered in hospital. No theory's perfect, I guess.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 25, 2005 10:39 AM (IbWE6)

11 Me:"Many are calling on him to run for office now. Govenor, US Senator or US Representative Anyone know anything about his politics?" My boss claims that Armstrong is a Kerry loving, liberal.

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 04:29 PM (/+dAV)

12 Yeah, heard John F'in Kerry was following in the car behind Lance on Saturday. Guess Kerry just can't get enough of eating a Texans dust.

Posted by: retire05 at July 25, 2005 04:54 PM (At3vY)

13 When OLN interviewed Kerry, he went on ... and on ... and on ... until they stuck him in a little box in the corner of the screen so they could get back to the race. Independent Sources has more.

Posted by: A Senior Administration Official at July 25, 2005 05:16 PM (IWRGF)

14 Greg, I've heard the opposite...that he's a Bush buddy, literally. Who knows.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 06:01 PM (perrS)

15 When his team faltered in the foothills, and his opponents isolated him (something they love to do to Americans), he played them off against each other, picked up the challenge and gained time on them all. Except of course that Lance is pretty close to Basso and it would be more accurate to say they worked together to dump Ullrich. Ah well, when you have to choose between a good story and the facts....

Posted by: Daran at July 26, 2005 09:10 AM (h1uHG)

16 Daran: He also used Ullrich to get back to Vinokourov at one point. I said that he played the other riders, who had isolated him from his team, off against one another... which is precisely what the Basso and Ullrich scenarios were all about. And, of course, he gained time on all of then, including Basso. Pretty much what I said happened, in other words.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 26, 2005 09:49 AM (IbWE6)

17 "Funding is tough to come by these days," he says. "The biggest downside to a war in Iraq is what you could do with that money. What does a war in Iraq cost a week? A billion? Maybe a billion a day? The budget for the National Cancer Institute is four billion. That has to change. It needs to become a priority again. "Polls say people are much more afraid of cancer than of a plane flying into their house or a bomb or any other form of terrorism. It is a priority for the American public." - Lance Armstrong http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/tourdefrance/2005-07-24-armstrong-mission_x.htm Lance speaks out against U.S. priorities.

Posted by: greg at July 26, 2005 03:25 PM (/+dAV)

18 Greg: Sorry, but there's nothing in those statements that suggests anything other than that he supports cancer research. In fact, he doesn't say that the War in Iraq ought to be a lower priority, just that cancer ought to be higher. I know you wish it were otherwise, but perhaps when you learn to distinguish between a wish and an inference you'll be able to make better choices about what you support.

Posted by: Demosophist at July 27, 2005 12:26 AM (IbWE6)

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Tell Us Something We Don't Know

BBC:

The Iranian judiciary has said that human rights abuses have been taking place in the country's jails.

A report drafted over several months says prison guards
have ignored a legal order banning the use of torture by blindfolding
and beating detainees.

It also criticises police for arresting people without sufficient evidence.

Why, I'm shocked and outraged, I tellya. Who'da thunk it?

I'm going to sit back, grab a snack, and see how long it takes Amnesty International to label Iranian prisons the "Gulag of our time." Nah, they and the rest of the Axis of Appeasement will praise Iran for its newfound openess and transparency, and will call for America to be more like Iran.

Oh, but wait, there's more.

"We've taken steps and we can proudly state that all
these failings have now disappeared," Abbas Ali Alizadeh told AFP news
agency.

"Iranian prisons are among the best in the world."

The report found that some suspects were held in
undeclared detention centres run by a plethora of different security
organisations.

Inspectors were not allowed access to detention centres operated by the elite Revolutionary Guards, it said.

Probably because THOSE detention centers are such a model of rehabilitative gentility. If these prisons were inspected, why, there would be such a rush to Iran to copy their model of pleasant incarceration that the country just couldn't handle the scrutiny. I for one, am just happy to hear that Iran has cleaned up its prison procedures.

CP@VAM

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1 By Golly, Prisoners are beaten to death in Afghanistan by America's "Testosterone Gang", gunned down in shipping containers by America's ally, the Northern Alliance and subject to all kinds of torture at Guantanamo Bay. Perhaps the Iranians can learn something about torture and incarceration from us?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 06:42 PM (ScqM8)

2 ...Almost forgot, ABU GHRAIB, where prisoners are tortured, smeared with feces, urinated on, filmed being anally ravaged by cyalume lights, attacked by dogs and smothered to death in sleeping bags. What a way to win the public's hearts and minds!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 06:51 PM (ScqM8)

3 Who is imitating Greg? I bet it is scumcockle, the wild rooster who gets boar-ed over a barrel of oil. I bet my farm is really close to Rooster, so close that he drives by my place and waves to me when hauling the bass boat. You're a muslim-hating piece of stinky garbage, Greyrooster. Join Hellibacon and go drive a fuel tanker. Your desert friends will be waiting.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 07:06 PM (ScqM8)

4 Rusty, would you please ban the Downing Street Dumnass? He's so dumn that he keeps the name of the thrice discredited documents as his nick. Anyone that stupid deserves to be kicked off this blog. Besides, he is a pathalogical liar. When you encounter someone who will lie when the truth would be better, you soon reach a level of disgust wondering whether he actually believes the shit he writes. Granted, he is good for some laughs, but you get weary of the same thing over and over. DSM, are you well? Do you believe the shit you write or are you just a dumn-ass troll? I think you are a sick, dumn ass troll. Go back to your hole, troll!

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 24, 2005 08:04 PM (DDXXI)

5 Hi Jesusland, are you saying none of the above happened in Afghanistan, Cuba or Iraq?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:06 PM (ScqM8)

6 No, he's begging me to delete your idiocy. But I won't, because you fell for it, you ignorant schmuck.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 24, 2005 08:18 PM (Kr6/f)

7 Greetings Mad Dog, Are YOU saying the crimes above were not done in Afghanistan, Iraq and Cuba?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:22 PM (ScqM8)

8 You figure out the difference, dingbat.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 24, 2005 08:27 PM (Kr6/f)

9 Hi Mad Dog, Thank you for your agreement. We must do something about the horrible tortures going on, as they make the world a much meaner place.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:34 PM (ScqM8)

10 Jesusland Joe: "He's so dumn'. DSM, are you well? "Do you believe the shit you write or are you just a dumn-ass troll? I think you are a sick, dumn ass troll." Hey Seuss, When you call someone 'stupid', at least spell it right. DUMB, Da dump, DUMB!

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 08:49 PM (/+dAV)

11 Actually after watching the lunacy posted by DSM yesterday, concerning "Hallibacon" and Soldiers coffin's I hereby conclude: Downing Street Memo, and BUSH LIES, SOLDIERS DIED is one and the same person. As BLSD was banned, I assume DSM will continue running his mouth till he is likewise removed.

Posted by: dave at July 24, 2005 08:51 PM (DO6vD)

12 Man, I wuz abut to write tha samnd dam ting butt thenm i figgered jesuz maight nut hav spel czeck.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 08:53 PM (perrS)

13 Sorry, chum, I didn't agree to a thing you said.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 24, 2005 08:53 PM (Kr6/f)

14 Â“TELL US SOMETHING WE DONÂ’T KNOWÂ” Gonzales Says He Told Card About CIA Probe Â“Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Sunday that he notified White House chief of staff Andy Card after the Justice Department opened an investigation into who revealed a covert CIA officer's identity, but waited 12 hours to tell anyone else in the executive mansion.Â” http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/07/24/national/w131014D80.DTL Can you say, Â“Bush got 12 hours to shred documents before the Â‘must preserve all documentsÂ’ notification.Â” I knew you could!

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 08:57 PM (/+dAV)

15 DID YOU KNOW... China confirmed Boxun's report on bird flu (July 13, 2005) Today (July 13), China officially claimed that bird flu in Qinghai is not H5N1, but a new type. "It is much more dangerous than H5N1", according to this official report released today. In an unconfirmed news on May 25 2005, released by Boxun, it stated that the bird flu in Qinghai is a new form of virus rather than H5N1, "its symptom is slightly different from H5N1, but it can resist high temperature, faster to show symptoms and more likely to transfer". In a series of reports (released but not unconfirmed by Boxun), it claimed to have people dead of this virus, but this claim has been denied by the government. (boxun.com). http://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/english/2005/07/200507131330.shtml A pandemic is imminent! Read about the Â“The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918Â”, the worst epidemic the United States has ever known. October 1918 turns out to be the deadliest month in the nation's history as 195,000 Americans fall victim to influenza. A high percentage of Americans were killed when it was all over. To this day, we remain extremely vulnerable to mutated viruses. It just a matter of time. This year, next year, a few decades at most. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/timeline/index.htmlhtm

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 09:13 PM (/+dAV)

16 and it was all Bush's fault, wasnt it greg and DSM???

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 10:00 PM (9gFP6)

17 TANOS, Not everything under the sun is Bush's fault. Look, Bono says he's ok. Bush is like a good neighbor, yet he is too screwed up to be president. Some people should never have been permitted to have so much control without the brains to back it up.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:23 PM (ScqM8)

18 and you have those brains, right DSM???.....uhhuuuu....sureeeeee

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 10:25 PM (9gFP6)

19 and as far as i have seen, you have to be a little screwed up to be even involved in politics to even get anywhere

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 10:28 PM (9gFP6)

20 TANOS, I'd never be a poly-tick-ian, as I'm just a stupid old redneck who chews tobacco and blows away varmint cong.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:29 PM (ScqM8)

21 Downing Street Moron: You are to dumb to own a farm. In fact, if you are under 40 years old you must be a lonely, ugly, friendless asshole. No one under that age can spend as much time on the computer as you. Only the socially scorned, without friends, male or female having nothing else to do can spend the time you do. How does it feel to be a friendless lonely nerd. Also, you are a lying piece of shit. You claim not to be shiting on America but read your 1st post. Yes, I am a muslim hater. They are shit like you. They are the enemy and believe in a gutter religion that continues to cause pain, death and suffering thoughout the world. Anyone who denies this is just plain stupid. You are a inferior cry baby and should not ever be allowed on American soil. More and more everyday people are getting tired of your America hating, muslim loving shit. You are the enemy even though you deny it. You are nothing but jealous pig shit.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:23 AM (CBNGy)

22 Dave may well have hit the nail on the head. Cudos Dave. I wonder if Greg has a point with the influenza thing. How does it apply to prisons in Iran? How does it apply to the other topic. Namely, the low life, scum bag, America hating Downing Street Moron AKA Bush lies-soldiers died.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:33 AM (CBNGy)

23 Klanooster shits on America, because he supports the criminal regime of BUSH. BUSH LIES is a sorry-assed desert-dwelling scumbag, like Klanooster. DSM hates jingoists pigheads who care more for oil and the flag more than the hardworking fighting men and factory workers who make our country great. So screw you and your neocon pipe dreams, as the ship of reality has left you behind, grunt, grunt!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:28 AM (ScqM8)

24 Hahaha: "You are to dumb to own a farm." I love it when racist fuckers get their panties in a bind and try to insult someone's intelligence while highlighting their own stupidity in the process. Drink up, Gayrooster, it's a long week and it's only Monday.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 09:51 AM (perrS)

25 Rooster:'I wonder if Greg has a point with the influenza thing' The string was entitled, "Tell Us Something We don't Know". I posted what I believed to be 2 interesting subjects that most people don't know about.

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 03:04 PM (/+dAV)

26 I see Greg has shown his ignorant, DUMB face over here on The Jawa Report. Greg is like a dog who eats its own vomit. He never has an original thought, he just eats the vomit that comes from DU and Indymedia. Greg, did you ever wonder why no one reads your blog? It's because you never say ANYTHING worth reading. Why do you continue to come over here and troll around? You and the Downing Street Memo retard ought to get together and do whatever your kind do when they get together. Smoke dope, mainline some herion, wallow in self pity, and blame Bush for everything. Don't you work or do anything worthwhile? Don't answer that. I really don't want to know.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 26, 2005 03:40 PM (DDXXI)

27 Anyone who calls himself osamabeenthere cannot seriously call anyone but himself stupid. Just another America hating prick. Nothing more. Sorry an asshole like you has been left behind. But the reason is obvious to patriots. Friggin traitor. Back on the porch.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 26, 2005 09:55 PM (CBNGy)

28 Gayrooster, or Gaycock.... Is your cock-a-doodle name supposed to be better than mine? Am I supposed to be in awe of your creative powers? You can not escape the reality of your drunk postings which expose your stupidity for the whole world to see. It's also hilarious to see you spouting lies, because I'm not an "America hater" or a "traitor" In fact, you are: You have betrayed your country by spreading lies, ignorance, racism and to top it off, breeding more of your stupid self for the world to deal with. You support a fuckwad president and support his bullshit policies, all the while shouting and covering your ears when anyone tries to tell you the truth. You will be chimped...

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 27, 2005 04:10 PM (5NVVZ)

29 You have already been chimped. By your parents.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:43 AM (CBNGy)

30 Screw it, Klanman Rooster, you've been BOAR-ED!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:57 AM (ScqM8)

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Ilario Pantano Should Sue This "Writer"

Ashraf Fahim is a self-described "freelance writer" and "news analyst" operating out of Brooklyn, New York and publishing primarily in Middle eastern and Asian "news" outlets unfriendly to the US.

Fahim is so long-winded and boring that I'm not going to reproduce the entire propaganda piece here; I'll just fisk a few choice paragraphs. The density of Fahim's drivel is by design - repeating lies over and over breaks down resistance and enures the reader to the obvious distortions and pretzel logic.

From The perils of colonial justice in Iraq:

Among its more vociferous opponents, the American project in Iraq is characterized as a classic colonial adventure, indistinguishable in nature or intent from the deepest, darkest chapters in Northern oppression of the South: America is to Iraq as Britain was to India or Belgium to the Congo. Proponents, on the other hand, argue the inherent benevolence of American empire - the export of democracy and egalitarianism in contrast to the transparent racist imperialism of yore.

Make no mistake. Ashraf Fahim is among those vociferous critics, not an unbiased bystander as he pretends to be here. If you enjoy anti-American propaganda, check out his other writings here. But a close reading of Fahim's first paragraph is enough to pin down his mindset. Notice that Fahim's imaginary protagonists, the "vociferous opponent" and the "proponent" agree to the "colonial" nature of the War in Iraq. This is the straw man that Fahim is trying to create. But if the US is a "colonial" power, the same as Great Britain and Belgium were, where are the US colonies? Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands? Fahim's thesis is doomed by definition, and his own faulty logic.

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1 Looks like the U.S. is being colonialist in Iraq to me.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 07:15 PM (ScqM8)

2 sure DSM, look at all those American's packing up all their possesions in the family car and moving to Iraq to buy some land....you stupid, ignorant piece of white trash

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 09:53 PM (9gFP6)

3 Iraq is America's Nigeria - lots of oil, corruption and more. Colony: A region politically controlled by a distant country; a dependency. Dr. THANOS, explain how Iraq is not a colony.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:26 PM (ScqM8)

4 DSM, Colony a: a body of people living in a new territory but retaining ties with the parent state b: the territory inhabited by such a body Dude, update your propaganda lexicon, you're embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 10:37 PM (RHG+K)

5 The individuals killed by Lt. Pantano were probably as 'innocent' as the individual killed by the British Police the other day. When people who look like you and act like you are doing bad things to others and being actively pursued, it's generally a good advice to listen and obey the instructions of armed authorities - not act threatening and belligerent.

Posted by: Jonathan Murray at July 24, 2005 11:09 PM (7D30s)

6 Snuggly Bluto, there are many definitions of "colony". Lets' take a look at Iraq. Who runs the control tower at Baghdad Airport, the security of the International Zone, swims in Saddam's swimming pools, runs the Prison System, patrols the skies with planes and drones? America the Beautiful!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:12 PM (ScqM8)

7 Who did the same in Germany and Japan in 1945? Are they colonies of the US? "...many definitions of 'colony'." Do you think you're one of George Orwell's pigs, now?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 11:32 PM (RHG+K)

8 I dunno, Popeye's Enemy, Iraq has too much oil to be free of the Hellibacon colonizers. Bush and his twisty-minded buddies raped and ravaged the oil revenue 8 Billion missing from what I've heard. Goddamned disgrace.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:35 PM (ScqM8)

9 You don't know? Why, the US occupied Japan and West Germany. The USSR occupied East Germany. Who turned out to be a colonizer? Hint: it starts with "US" and ends with "SR". Your written idiomatic English isn't too bad, but you have no real grasp of our history or culture.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 11:56 PM (RHG+K)

10 THANOS35: For your info Downing Street Moron is not WHITE trash. Trash alright but diffinately not white. Either brown or black with a dirty rag on his head. He uses it to wipe his ass as his kind have yet to invent toilet paper. In fact, not many have a toilet so they carry their ass wipe on their heads. Thats where the phase shit head comes form. Direct someone watching Downing Street Moron wipe his ass and then wrap his head.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:39 AM (CBNGy)

11 The muslim huggers play this death of one idiot without the brains to stop with cops tell him to as the biggest news of the war on terror. What about the dozens of innocents killed by the terrorists. I guess thats small stuff. The bombings in Egypt must be small stuff. The biggest thing on their agenda is one death of a probable terrorist associate. Not the hundreds killed by Downing Street Morons friends.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:45 AM (CBNGy)

12 Psycho Klansman Greyrooster, in flagrante delicto with the wild mountain boar is a loser.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:30 AM (ScqM8)

13 Gayrooster in action: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/hunterkicksboar.html

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Al Qaida in Iraq Releases Video of Egyptian Diplomat and Sinai

It may be an off day for millions world-wide, but for Al Qaida, there's no such thing as an off day. Fresh off of claiming responsiblity for the terrorist attack on the Sinai Peninsula which killed around 90 people and injured close to 200, Al Qaida in Iraq has released a video of the now executed Egyptian diplomat Ihab al-Sherif saying there is a large Jewish presence in the Sharm al-Sheikh region.

Al-Qaeda in Iraq issued a 1:30 minute video today, July 23, 2005, depicting a "confession" of the Egyptian ambassador to Iraq, Ihab al-Sherif, as he discusses the Jewish presence (permission to stay) in Sinai. It is interesting to note that this video was released just hours after the triple bombing in Sharm al-Sheikh, Egypt, perhaps indicating some kind of connection between al-Qaeda in Iraq and the attack.

Not only does this video might show proof of a possible Al Qaida in Iraq connection, this video is intended to spark the ridiculous calls by some television "experts" claiming Israel had something to do with the terrorist attack.

It really matters not whether Al Qaida in Iraq carried out the attack in the Sinai as the other groups who claimed responsibility do have an operational connection to Al Qaida in Iraq and Al Qaida as a whole. We already know Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has attempted to stretch his arms outside of Iraq therefore it's hardly surprising there may in fact be a closer connection than previously thought. Then again, this very well could be well-timed propoganda to try to get Al Qaida in Iraq's name in the news again.

Infovlad has the video

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VandalÂ’s Torch U.S. Flags At Slain Soldiers Home

VandalÂ’s torch U.S. Flags at slain soldiers home:

WCPOÂ—Not even 24-hours after Private First Class Tim Hines's wife and family said goodbye at his funeral, American flags that had adorned their Fairfield yard were piled beneath a car and burned. [. . .]

Private First Class Timothy Hines Jr. was severely wounded by an IED that exploded near his HMMWV in Iraq; he died July 14th at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington D.C.

Timothy Hines gave his life defending liberty, and some sicko shows up at his home to burn U.S. Flags under a car...what kind of sick people do things like that?

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1 What an utterly stupid thing for someone to do. You can dislike this war all you like, and believe me, I think it was a terrible waste of resources and lives, but taking it out on the troops and their families is just plain despicable. I'm sure everyone on both sides of the war argument will agree with that.

Posted by: ReidBlog at July 24, 2005 01:54 PM (wh8Lg)

2 Prior to the war, I had many "American For Peace" yard signs stolen or destroyed and on one occassion, threatening grafitti was spray pianted on it. When the war began, I took the sign down. I thought it best not to agitate my neighbors. I was and remain against this war, but I am pro-troop. This act of vandalism is wrong and if the perpetrator knew in advance that it was the property of a wounded soldier, it is a disgusting cowardly act and I condemn it in the strongest possible terms.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 02:14 PM (/+dAV)

3 Find them, try them, then execute them.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 04:55 PM (CBNGy)

4 They need to find the sons of whores and beat the livin shit ot of 'em. I volunteer to go one on on in a small room (not more than 5x5) with one of em. One of us will not walk out. This is not an exercise of a Constitutional right, this is terrorism.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 24, 2005 05:27 PM (Z6yVb)

5 Roddy Pipehitter, It's just a piece of cloth that is used by the elite to blindfold you!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 07:17 PM (ScqM8)

6 Liberals like DSM show more respect for the muslim burka than they do for the flag of their own country, not to mention the family of the dead GI.

Posted by: Carlos at July 24, 2005 07:43 PM (8e/V4)

7 Hi Mr. Carlos, Burkas are so unfashionable. DSM cares for the people, not the symbols used by the elite to blindfold us into rampaging around the mideast for oily corporate profit. Every death is a tragedy, yet burned flags don't raise my pulse.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:10 PM (ScqM8)

8 DSM, Liberals don't care about people, you care about causes. That's how you missed the part where the flag is something more than just a rag to this dead GI's wife and family. Back in my Lib days working in the non-profit sector with mostly Libs I figured this out. It's about "the cause", not about people. I met lots of "save the world" types that didn't even like people, let alone care about them. But boy, did they ever want to "save the world."

Posted by: Carlos at July 24, 2005 08:49 PM (8e/V4)

9 DSM, I agree that the flag is just a symbol and that there shouldn't be a Contitutional Amendment protecting it. But, you've got to buy your own flag if you want to burn it. It is criminal to go around destroying the property of others. And if the perpetrator knew that it was the property of a disabled Vet, they also crossed the line of decency.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 09:19 PM (/+dAV)

10 You're right Greg, vandalism is a crime. I fail to get excited over flags getting burned when everyone wearing one on their business suits cheers on the Bushists in their torture spree. Let them burn their own in the streets of Washington, New York, LA, Chicago, Houston and especially CRAWFORD!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 09:34 PM (ScqM8)

11 Worthless bunch of worthless peice of dog crap are they we should burn a peace pansie rainbow flag with the 70s chicken footprint logo on it under thier forgein car they own

Posted by: sandpiper at July 24, 2005 10:18 PM (UdEnh)

12 Sandpiper, as long as you own the flag first, then you can burn it.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:27 PM (ScqM8)

13 Scum! I can't stand all this anti-America crap! How freakin disrespectful can someone be? This stuff makes my head explode! I don't even know what to write.

Posted by: Jay at July 24, 2005 11:11 PM (BKqRl)

14 Jay, Take two aspirins and call me in the morning.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:13 PM (ScqM8)

15 jay, it was the Libs taking two and calling their doc in the morning when the Koran desecration story broke. It was practically a war crime.

Posted by: Carlos at July 24, 2005 11:25 PM (8e/V4)

16 All this talk of fire reminds me of when I blew up those gophers under my back 40.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:46 PM (ScqM8)

17 Downing Street Moron is now lying about owing a back 40. This piece of pig shit will lie about anything. Right Bush lies. You cowardly muslin loving dog.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 01:53 AM (CBNGy)

18 Greyrooster stole his back 40 from the working man and now jumps up and down on burning bags of dogshit!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:31 AM (ScqM8)

19 You start an imperialist war and kill innocent "terrorists" and this is what you get.

Posted by: Left & proud at July 25, 2005 07:44 AM (eIk57)

20 DSM, You don't get it and never will. Too bad you don't have the common sense to have pride in anything. Your posting shows us that you don't even have pride in yourself. You're mentally weak and nothing more than an open sore on life.

Posted by: elliott at July 25, 2005 08:13 AM (XlQVK)

21 This only re-inforces my beliefs from reading some post on this site that libs are truley repulsive little trolls.Bitter,ugly and full of hate.

Posted by: nightflyer USMC RET at July 25, 2005 08:50 AM (Bm3EJ)

22 More evidence that Libs are immoral clueless f-ing idiots (besides DSM's posts above): "People who suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome will give themselves permission to say and do amazingly despicable things, in their delusional belief that they have a monopoly on the Truth. Case in point, the Lt. Gov. of Pennsylvania: Lt. gov. crashed MarineÂ’s funeral, kin say": Antiwar Lt. Gov. Crashes Marine's Funeral http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16805_Antiwar_Lt._Gov._Crashes_Marines_Funeral#comments

Posted by: Carlos at July 25, 2005 09:56 AM (8e/V4)

23 "This only re-inforces my beliefs from reading some post on this site that libs are truley repulsive little trolls.Bitter,ugly and full of hate." I don't know any libs of that description, but I see plenty of hate spewed in here. What happened at that dead soldier's house is pretty sick, repulsive and insensitive. My question is, does anyone think the burners knew the soldier had died? Seems a bit extreme to me.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 09:57 AM (perrS)

24 At last the asshole osamabeenthere said something that made sense. I guess anyone can get lucky. The flag is a symbol of the country it represents. Those that desecrate that symbol should not be in that country. Sweep out the trash. I'm sure Canada will take them. They have a history of harboring deserters and such. Enemies of our country burn our flag. What does that say about those that live here and don't hve a problem with it? Birds of a feather to me.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 26, 2005 10:05 PM (CBNGy)

25 Klanrooster, enemies of the country use the flag as a weapon against the people.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 08:46 AM (ScqM8)

26 Crying over symbols is for the weak and enslaved. Destroying symbols on a personal level is where I draw the line...if you burn a flag in protest, it won't mess with me. I've seen it a million times, and it rolls off like a cheap insult. Now if I had a friend in a the military and someone was burning a flag on his lawn, there's be some ass kicking because then it's personal and malicious.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 27, 2005 04:16 PM (5NVVZ)

27 My daughter, a combat medic with 86th CSH in Baghdad, helped treat this soldier prior to his evac to the US and subsequent death. She and her fellow medical personnel busted their ass and gave their own blood trying to save this soldier ... so fellow countrymen (scumbags) could commit acts of vandalism against the family. God, I want to kill. Her e-mail reproduced below ... > Dad- > what horrible people. i just read in the Stars & Stripes > that someone vandalized the family home of a soldier the > day after his funeral. his name was PFC Hines. we treated > him here after an ied blast killed the soldiers in his > vehicle. his injuries were so numerous that we doubted he > would make it out of our EMT. we resusitated him two times > and he went to the OR for 11 hours. he still holds the > record here for blood transfusions. soldiers were donating > blood all night because we exhausted our labs supply. 211 > units of blood. he then went on to surprise us by making > it all the way back to the u.s. where he held on for over > a month. we got a call last week saying that he had passed > away. he was one of the ones that we were all interested > in. such a fighter. it sickens me to know that people > would do something like this. if people want to protest the > war...then protest the war. don't protest the soldiers or > thier poor families. he was patrolling the roads to make > them safer and he died. who could be so hateful? >

Posted by: LTC (Ret) John G Wheelock at July 29, 2005 09:44 AM (74qDR)

28 John: Please know that the MAJORITY of people support your daughter and our troops 100%. God Bless.

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Vacation Blogging: In-N-Out Burger Edition

If you have never had an In-N-Out Double-Double, you have never lived life. If you've had an In-N-Out Burger, and didn't like it, then there is no need for me to tell you to go to hell. You're definintely heading there anyway.

Tbanks to Bill Dautierieve for snapping this photo today at lunch.

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July 23, 2005

Late Night Loser Religion of Peeps Roundup

This post is dedicated to those night owls like me who stay up late surfing the net for something interesting to read.

Patrick al-Kafir writes a weekly column every Friday worthy of a paid publication. Go read it while it's still free.

This Jewish girl from Brooklyn trying to make her way in the world is not happy with the world as it is today.

Like the Nazis they aspire to be, the Taliban are pressing children into service.

The American Civil Liberties (for terrorists) Union gets thumped on the melon.

"Sire, it is said the people are revolting!" President Saleh: "You bet! They stink on ice!"

For the rest of you late night losers, give yourself a fatwa on me. Link to this post in your post, and t/b it.

Or, have yourself a happy drunken comment party. I'm going to look for a good picture for the caption contest.

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Eyewitness to Egypt bombings gives his account

I ran across this time article that shows the heinous acts of these terrorists for what they are gruesome murder for gruesome murders sake. These people will murder many of their own just to get a few tourists. If you sympathize with them think again they would murder your whole family just for the hell of it or maybe to get one Israeli or Brit or American.

"I saw about eight dead bodies lying on the ground, and seven or eight other people badly wounded," Chilton said. "One guy had no torso, just legs and chest held together by nothing but skin. There was another girl with her leg gone, and a guy with two legs gone, trying to get up. He didn't realize he had no legs." There was relatively little blood; the explosion was so hot it cauterized most of the wounds".

The Abdullah Azzam Brigades has claimed responsibility but the unknown group Mujahedi Masr or Â“holy warriors or Egypt has diluted that claim. Although they seem to have the details wrong. My money is on Abdullah Azzam Brigades

More on the Abdullah Azzam Brigades where they come from and how they are related to the current war on terror is below. Heck they are the originator of this whole mess. Al-qaida related yes they founded Al-qaida.

The Abdullah Azzam Brigades are apparently named after Abdullah Azzam, a Palestinian who led Islamic militants in Afghanistan and was killed in 1989 by a roadside bomb. He was regarded as the one-time spiritual mentor of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden.
Azzam studied Islamic theology in Egypt before traveling to Saudi Arabia where he lectured in Islamic law. During the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Azzam was financed by Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states to establish camps for Muslim militants who joined the fight against the Russian forces.

More here too.

Born in Palestine in 1941, Azzam moved to Jordan and then to Saudi Arabia before migrating to Pakistan at the start of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. In Peshawar, Azzam set up the Office of Services of the Holy Warriors (Mujahideen) and set about re-igniting the Islamic power rage against those non-Islamic powers that had conspired against Islam since before the Crusades. Darting off with not much more than a storefront in Peshawar, Azzam would ultimately succeed in rejuvenating the concept of jihad among the Arab masses.

Those who met Azzam were dazzled by his spellbinding oratorical skills, his capabilities as a military strategist, his religious leadership, and his interminable energy. Azzam helped bring about the mobilization of the Muslim Brotherhood movement more than any other leader. Today, the military wing of Hamas in the West Bank is called the Abdellah Azzam Brigades.

On an earlier note from Vinnie, yes I noticed the main coverage today seems to all be about the guy that was shot in London. Not matter that he was carrying a bomb or not, the suspicious nature of his actions added to the current climate in London made for a perfectly understandable mistake. In fact IM suggested the possibility that it was possibly an orchestrated mistake. For whatever reason, this man chose to act suspiciously and also disobey a direct police order in a time and place where that was the last thing any innocent person would do. Also IÂ’ve noted that so far a Jamaican and now one Brazilian have been involved in the London incidents in various ways. Rusty has been telling us of danger from the south for some time now. While slow to come around and I donÂ’t think itÂ’s widespread more and more evidence comes out that he is correct. There is a danger from the south. I ask all Mexicans criminal and otherwise if you are approached by one of these jerks. Take his freaking money and kill him. Us border patrol give them a freebee for every one they kill and drop over the Rio Grande for us. Just paint terrorist on his back.

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1 Jihadis are MFs and it is time to take BIN LADEN and all his McLadens down!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 08:35 PM (ScqM8)

2 What with 5 snipers?

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:36 PM (D3+20)

3 than get youre cowardly, whiny ass over to the Afghanistan/Pakistan border and find and kill him, DSM, if you think you can do better than the US military

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:55 PM (9gFP6)

4 I say send Robert Baer over there with the cooperation of five governments and he'll have bin laden within a friggin month, bonehead!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 09:11 PM (ScqM8)

5 BUSH is a raging fool charlatan, hypocrite who would rather show his manhood than catch BIN LADEN

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 09:13 PM (ScqM8)

6 and what makes you think that once you catch Bin Laden that the terrorists would suddenly stop doing what they do???....would just killing Bin Laden on some lonely mountain top do the trick???would the other terrorists believe you that Bin Laden was dead if you couldnt actually prove it???....would making him a maryter make him bigger than ever in the Muslim world???...see, you didnt think this threw and you would not do any better than Bush....boy, aint you the fucking genius

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:41 PM (9gFP6)

7 Bin Laden is irrelevant, a figurehead and the moneybags behind the ideology, there are more important targets than him in the war against terror, but coming from DSM no suprise.

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 09:52 PM (DO6vD)

8 Hey DSM, Baer, and the US, and a few interns, got screwed by Komrade Klinton. You've obviously read his books, no? Bush is just doing what Klinton should have done. Or even better, if Bubba had done his job instead of Monica, we wouldn't be here now. Read Ghost Wars, it'll take your farther than Baer's books, and it even mentions him.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 09:53 PM (0yYS2)

9 I think he's already dead. He passes off to zaqueery and then it is claimed that zaqueery is dead then he's not. then that canadian lady cliams she went to wedding. It's just a feeling I've no evidence. I'm probably wrong.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:54 PM (D3+20)

10 i would think that if Bin Laden was still alive we would have seen/heard something from him by now...the man has an ego the size of Montana and cant keep his mouth shut...all murdering,egomaniacs like him cant just disappear and keep quiet...they have to have their power by shooting off their mouths to appease their egos

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:58 PM (9gFP6)

11 Giprobulus Hamstreruppurasssimus, No kidding on Klinton, I'm talking NOW - send in BAER with a budget and he'll get Bin Laden in one month! BUSH is playing coy with you and me about Bin Laden. If each military aluminum coffin was 1.5 foot high, then 1800 coffins equals 2700 feet of dead Americans, right? BUSH is building two towers the height of the WTC with coffins of dead soldiers. All of these soldiers have been killed for a PACK OF LIES. Soldiers should not have to die for Bush's lies and sick adventures, but they are. BUSH is not a hero, he is a TRAITOR!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 10:04 PM (ScqM8)

12 oh here we go with the lies story again...beat another dead horse why dont ya DSM....and how high was the towers built by Clinton when he sent troops into Serbia and Bosnia???..oh but thats okay cause Clinton is a liberal Democrat, right DSM???....he was told by the weak and incompetent UN to send troops there, right DSM???....tell me another one, i got a bridge in NYC to sell ya, at sale prices

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 10:16 PM (9gFP6)

13 Tanos, Klinton is not the chief warpimp anymore - Scumbag BUSH is and he's making new WTC's out of aluminum coffins stacked high into the sky. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BLOOD!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 10:53 PM (ScqM8)

14 Time to take BIN LADEN DOWN and shut down the wars of adventure and hellibacon.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:08 PM (ScqM8)

15 From the NYT today: "Bush understands that the support of the public for war - especially the war in Iraq - is conditioned on demanding little of the public." "They say, 'I'm going to support those people, I believe in those people and God bless those people,' " he said. "By doing that, THEY CAN WASH THEIR HANDS OF IT." That is the 101st TYPING CHICKENHAWKS in a nutshell - Praise Bush, Prais the War and now I'm off to have a cold brew. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/politics/24troops.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5070&en=e7ac69d3c2ae5e49&ex=1122782400&emc=eta1 Downing Street Memo does not wash hands of wars or blindly praise the bastards who start them. Downing Street Memo says to hell with the bastards who start them and bring the soldiers back.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 12:22 AM (ScqM8)

16 hellibacon. oh my god that's great. hellibacon I can't help it oh my god. giggle giggle giggle hell i can't even spell giggle now. Good night gentlemen.

Posted by: Howie at July 24, 2005 01:31 AM (D3+20)

17 Uh DSM I can understand everyones reasons including the enemy why we are in this war. Regardless of how we got into it and how much getting into it was our own fault. Heck there is always plenty of blame to go around in every war. Just 50 years ago we saved these people from the nazis. Mulims the nazis would have killed you just like the terrorist would killed us on a much bigger scale. We must all stop this horror no matter how long it takes. DSM I undertand your hate of war. I hate it too. But although we might bear some guilt for the reasons why the war exists we certainly did not start it. People will die sir but more people will die in the long run if we dont fight it. More will die at the hands of terrorist more will die in combat more will die all over the world if we don't do what we can. I agree with you a lot of people need to wake up!!! There is a war. We can't stop it now DSM. We have to go in there and make all the reasons they hate us right and we have to win the war to do that. If we don't bust our asses to win were not giving it our all and well get burned. Mauybe we can't all join the army and I can tell you if they draft me well be in pretty rough shape buddy. I'll do what I can by writing and working my ass off. The more I work the more I pay. I'm sure we both hope it's over soon but it's a big job. See we could come home and do pretty good here all by ourselves we'd have each other right. But since the world is situation normal all fucked up and it's partialy our fault we have to bust ass and make it freaking right. You're not helping. Gosh it's nice to be able to edit your own comments that's freaking cool.

Posted by: Howie at July 24, 2005 01:44 AM (D3+20)

18 Howie dude, I want to pull back the troops to guard America's borders and gun the punks down if they so much as sneeze across it. For overseas ops, shadowy hit squads can take out the troublemakers without pissing off every tom, dick and harry over there. I get into a fierce raging madness every time I see Bush on TV and hear about dead American troops. That bastard Bin Laden needs to go and he's over there taunting us. I hate that prick worse than all of the Jawa gang, including resident psychos gimp and klanrooster. Gimpy and Klanrooster could read some Michael Scheuer, as when my son brought me the book I nearly exploded in a wild rage when I learned about the bullshit. Some really angry iraqis, radicalized by the war Bush loves so much are going to bring a nuclear bomb across the border, put it in an ultralight plane, fly it over an important city and blow it up. We must stop this and guard the borders TIGHT, including Canada.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 06:43 AM (ScqM8)

19 so you would cut the US from the rest of the world, DSM???....youre an isolationist more or less and in this modern day and age, the 21st century, with all this advanced technology, it wont work....sorry DSM , this isnt the 13 century when the oceans kept the continents pretty much safe from the others....wake up and welcome to reality

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 10:28 AM (9gFP6)

20 Hey well have to grow us a garden if that happens eh. Maybe a little unemployment and gardening might help us live longer. spend more time with the neighbors family all that crap. Except there is that responsability thing. Crap. I still got stuff to do. They tell me at my job that my accounts will be way over a mil if I stick with it. I've double checked and yes it's awesome quite a bit more but by then that's not so much. On that note. I left my job in my hometown and I headed for the smoke. Got a rock & roll band and a fast right hand gonna get to the top nothins gonna stop us no nothin. I got holes in my shoes I got holes in my teeth I got holes in my sock I can't get me no sleep. And I'm trying to make a million. And I got pathes on the patches of my old blue jeans Well they used to be new when they used to be blue when they use to be clean. But I gotta woman who's a hummer who's keepin me alive while I'm in the band doin drinkin with the boys she's working 9 to 5. She know's her place that woman. One of these days see me drivin round town in my rockin rolls royce with the sunroof down my bottle of booze no summer time blues sayin ow look at me in my rockin rolls royce. It ain't no fun........waiting round to be a millionare. Scott. It just fits today for me. But to alter it would be sacrilegious. Especially the Ain't no fun part. Ok more coffee let's go.

Posted by: Howie at July 24, 2005 10:52 AM (D3+20)

21 Howie:'I think he's already dead. ' I agree. He died a Tora Bora and is buuried in an unmarked grave as is the custom. It's easy to fake tapes, consider the recent Steve MsQueen and Elvis commercials.He's more valuable to the war party if he is 'alive'. All societies need an 'Emmanuel Goldstein'.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:07 PM (/+dAV)

22 Downing Street Moron is nothing but a muslim supporter. His tirades against his hero Osama are nothing but bullshit. Just another minority cursing the government because of his lack of ability.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:02 PM (CBNGy)

23 Klanrooster racist scumcockle psycho 101st wingnut brigade leader: you are a stinky piece of muslim-hating garbage who takes his own temperature with a baseball bat.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:45 PM (ScqM8)

24 Osama Bin Laden is dead. Downing Street Moron has a picture of him over his bed and cries himself to sleep at night. His scumbag hero is dead. This entire bullshit about him hoping Osama gets caught is bullshit. He worships him. Read the terrorist huggers posts and it is more than obvious. He's just trying to keep from being banned again. Before he called himself Bush lies, soldiers died. Same America hating asshole. Death to the terrorist and their supporters like Downing Street Moron.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:07 AM (CBNGy)

25 Klanooster IS a terrorist who hangs people from trees if they're not wite enough.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:34 AM (ScqM8)

26 What no: Hello Howard how ya doing friend, next door neighbor. Oh yeah get you f@@king jumbo jet outta my airport. The preceding was a true story only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

Posted by: Howie at July 25, 2005 02:59 PM (D3+20)

27 Downing Street Moron: Name one. Otherwise you are a liar. Which we already know. Muslim terrorist sympathizer.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 26, 2005 10:09 PM (CBNGy)

28 Twistnut Klansman Rooster!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 08:47 AM (ScqM8)

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Radical Islamic Cleric in England Continues to Preach Hate

In the wake of the second terrorist attack in England, radical Islamic cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed seems to be more of an idiot than previously believed. The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment.

This doesn't stop Mohammed though as today he said attacks will continue until British soldiers are out of Iraq and Afghanistan (via Euphoric Reality).

"What happened yesterday confirmed that as long as the cause and the root problem is still there ... we will see the same effect we saw on July 7," Bakri said.
"If the cause is still there the effect will happen again and again," he said, adding he had no information about future attacks or contacts with people planning to carry out attacks.
Bakri, a Syrian-born cleric who has been vilified in Britain since 2001 when he praised the September 11 hijackers, said he did not believe the bombings and attempted attacks on London were carried out by British Muslims.

The 'root cause', as Mohammed sees it is not radical Islam or his asinine ramblings, it is the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We must continue to remind these people of low intellect that there were in fact terrorist attacks before either war.

Mohammed tries to condemn the attacks against innocents, yet he supports the killing of Muslims throughout the Middle East. What is Mohammed's goal?

"I would like to see the Islamic flag fly, not only over number 10 Downing Street, but over the whole world," he said.

That too is the goal of radical Islam as a whole. I cannot say this enough even if I sound like a broken record. Radical Islam wants to turn the entire world into a Caliphate state where Sharia Law is the only law and we are all mindless followers of the only religion people like Mohammed sees fit. As I've said before, I refuse to be a pawn.

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1 Idiot muslims and liberal muslim supporters need to be reminded constantly that the attack of the World Trade Center and Pentagon happened before we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. The muslim terrorist attack on us is why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq. To put a stop to it. Dumbasses just can't seem to accept this fact. Fact #2. The attack on the United States was planned while the cheating bastard Clinton was president. It was conceived and planned well before President Bush was elected. It was thought of and put into action when Clinton was invading every little country that couldn't fight back. When they did, Clinton ran and called the troops back. Dumb shit, stupid muslims and their asshole lying supporters just don't get it. Tony Blair and President Bush are living heros. They are standing up to a situation completely caused by the previous administration that was made up of old ladies and midgets. Clinton's cowardous gave the terrorists confidence. They never figured on Bush and Blair going after them. Clinton would have ran as he did in Somalia. Bush is getting the respect back that the Clinton administration lost. You don't have to be the most popular person in a company, Government or whatever to be respected. But to run it you must let those less than you know that you are in charge. President Bush and Tony Blair have had to fight two wars. One against the muslim asshole terrorists. One against the idiot muslim hugging cowards in their own countries. I believe they are both heros and the finest leadership either country has had in many a year. I don't expect everyone to see this as it does take some depth of thought.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 04:54 PM (CBNGy)

2 >>>"The English government is drafting new laws to make this type of "hate speech" outlawed and deciding whether certain clerics who are urging jihad and terrorist attacks are worthy of deportation or imprisonment. That's very good. In the meantime, however, you will continue to stroke him the welfare checks he is so very much entitled to. You gotta love Liberalism.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:08 PM (8e/V4)

3 Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician. This war on terror is a nutcase psycho ward excuse for raging gubbamint violence.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 06:45 PM (ScqM8)

4 I will give a nickle to the punter that drains this cleric's head. That is all this bearded fuckers life is worth now. I put a fatwa out on his ass. TO ALL PUNTERS AND SPIVS! DRAIN THIS FUCKERS HEAD!!!!!

Posted by: obsnooks at July 23, 2005 06:53 PM (xdqZV)

5 >>>"Yep, the guy that got his head blown off in London was a Brazilian electrician." What the hell does his nationality or profession have to do with it? He could be a Malagasy electrician for all I care. He refused to stop, he got shot. Evolution at work.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 06:58 PM (8e/V4)

6 obsnooky - are saying people should kill over speech? Slime-mouth-Greyrooster, so what do you think provoked those 9/11 bastards to come to America and blow up the buildings? It wasn't Islam, idiot. It was Da Gabbamint's hijinks overseas that da Gubbamint doesn't tell you about. Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals. Bastards have taken your flag, thrown it over other countries and blanket partied them with coups, bombs and wars. No wonder they hate us, dickwad!! So screw your blind jingoist patriotism, lynch-master of the forest - your life is a lie and your breath smells like a chickenhouse.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:13 PM (ScqM8)

7 >>>"Uncle Sammy has been on a worldwide resource rape-fest for years, pissing on hundreds of millions of people to snatch their oil and minerals." And paying top dollar for it. The mooooslims would be eating sand if it weren't for Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 07:21 PM (8e/V4)

8 Now American troops are eating their sand, Carlos

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:47 PM (ScqM8)

9 you think I went home don't you DSM.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 07:51 PM (D3+20)

10 hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not, but lets say you are....lets see you come up with a better way to run the ENTIRE American government, you fucking armchair general with youre little peanut sized brain in youre big shark sized mouth

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:00 PM (9gFP6)

11 Now can Down Syndrome Meme get banned? he's getting as stupid and pointless as BLSD, and his repetitive drivel needs to stop.

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 08:01 PM (DO6vD)

12 greyrooster has it right...were where you, DSM , when Clinton did NOTHING when the first bomb went off in the WTC back in the 90's????....you were probally sucking on ole Slick Willys wang, sharing it with that other whore....you probally cheered every thing Willy did, didnt you, you fucking terrorist loving whore, didnt ya, bitch???....oh of course, it was fine for the married President of the USA, Bill Clinton, to be having an affair right in the Oval Office, right on the desk that many great President of this country have say at and signed documents that made this country strong and great...you would have us all on our knees, bowing down to our Muslim overlords,praying to a death god who needs blood, dont you, you freaking heathen...go back under that rock you crawled out from under, you scumbag

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:12 PM (9gFP6)

13 I told you I was watching punk.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:17 PM (D3+20)

14 Ok, TANOS, first, I'd run da GUBBAMINT within Kyoto, within ICC and stop rampaging around with DA MILITRY. Counterterror would be kept in the shadows and not a "noisy american spectacle". Patriot ACt would be shut down and border control strenghtened with 100,000 troops brought back from Iraq. My only bad and immoral thing would be to get a small LRRP sniper squad into afghanistan to take down Bin Laden PERMANENTLY, once and for all.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 08:29 PM (ScqM8)

15 My sincere apologies to Chad for touching his thread.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:45 PM (D3+20)

16 well i can say if theres more bombs in the uk i bet you ll get some british nutters blowing up muslin places. this will happen it will get out of control british people will not take this, so a search for a group call combat 18 and there brother groups http://www.whitepower.co.uk/bally.jpg

Posted by: noname at July 23, 2005 08:46 PM (eFuj0)

17 Heh. I don't waste time arguing with idiots who use three different screen names to strengthen his arguments, Howie. I prefer to laugh a bit more.

Posted by: Chad Evans at July 23, 2005 08:53 PM (Ievlo)

18 Sorry again.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:04 PM (D3+20)

19 Howie, there's nothing to apoligize for. I just meant that in this particular thread, there is basically one dissenter and it's the same dissenter who uses three different . . . nevermind. Your comments, like everyone else's, are more than welcomed no matter how many personalities you bring to the table. Hey, there wouldn't be a comments section of the authors didn't want to hear any feedback. Here's a bit of trivia. I'm sure greyrooster knows the answer. Which United States president used the United States military more in terms of sending it to the most foreign countries other than FDR?

Posted by: Chad at July 23, 2005 09:16 PM (Ievlo)

20 Kyoto???....you believe that garbage???....you think that the world can actually change something that is a naturally occuring act???....lemme tell ya something DSM....one, only one, volcano, when it erupts can pump out more toxic and deadly poisinous gases than the entire USA industry could....the world goes threw warming and cooling trends and has been for millions, if not billions of years, long before the first human like creature stood upright on this planet and humans have the arrogance to think they can stop an act of nature???...might as well as stop a hurricane in its tracks by blowing a fan in its direction, may as well stop an eartquake.....get it, its an act oif nature or if you like, an act of God...we can not stop the earth from warming up or cooling down....check up on the facts....

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:16 PM (9gFP6)

21 second, how would you keep the fight on terrorism in the shadows???....know what the press is???...the internet???...how do you keep such a huge amount of violence out of the news and away from the public???...and you seem to be the one who blames Bush for having secrets and here you are saying that you would conduct something in secret....hypocrisy, anyone???.....why should it be bad and immoral to kill a murdering terrorist like Bin Laden???....would you feel bad for a man eating shark, that killed and ate a few innocent children swimming in the ocean, when it is finally found and shot???....please...you put down a rabid, sick dog without mercy,without remorse, just like Bin Laden, because you would be doing society a big favor

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:23 PM (9gFP6)

22 I'll take a stab LBJ. Yes chad I understand. I've been working watching him all day. I just got fed up. I'm extremely extremely tolerant but I take insults to the Jawa quite personally.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:24 PM (D3+20)

23 Not LBJ is it?

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:26 PM (D3+20)

24 hmm. interesting. leak the nicks he uses other than DSM? Take out the trash!

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 09:48 PM (DO6vD)

25 DSM said to obsnooks: "...are saying people should kill over speech?" I'm saying that. Yes, definitely. If someone stands up and says "kill the Jews, kill the Americans, kill the infidels, kill them wherever you find them." Then I say put a black bag team on him ASAP, along with anyone who was nodding in agreement when he said it.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 09:56 PM (0yYS2)

26 IMPY, fly to Britain AND GUT SOME FISH AND CHIPS!! That preacher prick is hanging out at the same street corner day in and day out, he's not hard to find. Just get on a plane!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:10 PM (ScqM8)

27 IMPY, you live in NJ and can get to the UK in less than 24 hours from now. Here is the chap you love so much: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1777503.stm Here is the address of the mosque of the chap you love so much: http://www.salaam.co.uk/mosques/searchmosque.php?orgcode=121 Here is a map to his preaching spot: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=531402&y=186591&z=0&sv=N4%202QH&st=PostCode&lu=N&tl=~&ar=y&bi=~&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:33 PM (ScqM8)

28 I am saying that someone should drain his head. Just like that filth JFK had done.

Posted by: obsnooks at July 24, 2005 07:35 AM (xdqZV)

29 THANOS:'hey DSM , if youre so supper smart, and from what ive seen, youre not' I love it when someone insinuates that another is stupid and then misspells words in their adversarial post. "SUPPER"?

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:14 PM (/+dAV)

30 calling the kettle black,eh childmolester greg???

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 04:48 PM (9gFP6)

31 Now Greg. I detected that you had somehow gotten a little wiser lately. But there you go slipping back into the old grove. Whenever you agree with garbage such as Downing Street Moron you demean yourself. Downing Street Moron has replaced you as the most hated idiot on this blog. Jealous? Are you trying to get back to #1? Back it off and maybe, just maybe, someone will give interest to what you have to say. In the past, when you post something the immediate respond has been more stupid bullshit from the America hater. Now, that Downing Street Moron has replaced you are #1 bullshitter you should take advantage of the situation. That is, if you really have something meaningful to say. Which I still doubt. But anyone can leave the dark side and be enlightened. Think about it.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 05:19 PM (CBNGy)

32 BUSH is a traitor, Rooster, America knows it and now you fight the Red White and Blue. So sad, as the country is leaving you behind.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 10:37 PM (ScqM8)

33 Wrong you America hating, muslim loving pile of pig shit. America is joining me more and more everyday. America is tired of shit of the likes of you. You who give aid and comfort to the enemy. You are a traitor and deserve to be treated as such. Of course, to be a traitor you much first be an American. Which you ain't. But we will get you anyway. You have defiled my country, its elected leaders, its military heros. You have lied about all the aforementioned. You are a traitor. You will get yours. Time is on Americas side. We will demand that traitors like you be punished for their crimes against this nation. You will not walk free.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:18 AM (CBNGy)

34 Bush and Klanooster will share the same prison cell once this horrible war for oil is over and Bin Laden is dead like the gopher I blew away.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:35 AM (ScqM8)

35 Only thing you blew was Bin Laden.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:32 AM (CBNGy)

36 You are a pigjumping racist brute Klan Rooster!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 03:55 AM (ScqM8)

37 Now here the truth. The tragic 911 horrified everyone in the world, including Muslims, Jews and Christians. But what most people have never known is that this tragedy was put together by the US as an excuse way back in the 60's when (possibly the greatest) President Kennedy was in power. They were going to use this incident than to attack Cuba. This did not happen as the President rejected the idea. But decades down the line a hard line Christian Fundamentalist did not think of the consequences and jumped to the idea. This was all planned, Bin Ladden was a CIA man, and I really feel sorry for the American people. Why should a toss pot like Bush drag this good nation into such hatred of the east? As you are aware Islam has grown considerably, and Bush and others realized this has become a threat to America a long time ago Believe me, every incident you here is all conspiracy. The Member of Parliament Robin Cook dies suddenly! The poor guy was totally against this War and resigned. They killed him off and made it look like a heart Attack. ItÂ’s not hard for the government to do this, believe me. ItÂ’s a shame there is so much hatred. Before Bush came to power a good President was in power called Clinton. Ok he was not perfect but no way was there so much tension and hatred in the world as there is today. So thank you President Monkey Bush, 3 more years of this? What next Iran. Obviously. If the Jews get there way they will use the thick headed President to bomb Iran. But why? What have they done to hurt anyone? Who has used nuclear in the past 60 years? I hope that these 3 years go by quickly and someone with some brains brings stability to the world before a 3rd world war faces us. God help us from the hands of a mad Christian fundamentalist! One last point. Were you aware that the President great grandfather had a book published against the Islam religion? Look it up. Thanks for your time.

Posted by: CIA at August 13, 2005 01:18 PM (z3qsE)

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London Times: No Bomb on Man Shot

The Timesonline, without citing a source, reports that the man shot dead as he fled police and jumped onto a tube carriage was not carrying explosives:

It is understood that he was found not to have been carrying a bomb.
Three officers had followed him to Stockwell station after he emerged from a nearby house that police believed to be connected with ThursdayÂ’s attempted bombings.
The suspect, described as being of Asian appearance and wearing a thick, bulky jacket, vaulted over a ticket barrier when challenged by police and ran down the escalator and along the platform of the Northern Line.

Another witness has described what appears to be an attempted hostage-taking by the man:

Dan Copeland, a Northern Line passenger, told BBC News: Â“The man burst in through the carriage door to my right and grabbed hold of the pole and a person by the glass partition near the door, diagonally opposite me.

Information from police sources indicates that the man was a confederate of the London bombers.

Police are describing him as an Â“intimate accomplice of the cellÂ”. His name and address were thought to have been found among the possessions left by the would-be bombers on Thursday.
Police sources said he did not live at the address from which he had been followed.

But the BBC reports the man was not connected to Terror bombers:

A man shot dead by police hunting the bombers behind Thursday's London attacks was unconnected to the incidents, police have confirmed.
A Scotland Yard statement said the shooting was a "tragedy" which was regretted by the Metropolitan Police.

Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.

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1 The dumbass got "Darwined". All he had to do was let them do a quick search and he would have been on his way, but nooooo, he had to run. He was probably on his way to pick up a bomb. Serves the moron right.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 12:07 PM (0yYS2)

2 The guy was followed by 3 plain-clothed officers, then he started running because 3 people were following him. He probably thought they were thugs. The police likes to say he didn't obey their instructions but failed to mention what they were... "Oi Paki get the f*ck down!"...? I would not be surprised. Then they lunge onto him and pump 5 bullets into his head, when all they had to do was handcuff him, search him and question him. Looks like the police got trigger happy.

Posted by: John at July 23, 2005 12:33 PM (Ua699)

3 >>>"Looks like the police got trigger happy." trigger happy is the only reasonable way to be when you're hunting suicide bombers. I agree with IM, the guy got darwined.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 12:37 PM (8e/V4)

4 John: are we to assume then, that you would be happy to pat down suspected suicide bombers? good luck in your new career!

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 12:43 PM (DO6vD)

5 anyone who critizes police officers, you try and put youreself in their spot....as a police officer, in any city,country, and in any given situation of where youre life is in mortal danger, you have only a split second to make a life or death choice....do you not open fire and have the perp shoot you or set off a bomb he may/may not have under his heavy jacket and now youre dead and many others around the criminal, or do you shoot him, possibly kill/wound him and you and many others around you live another day....till you have been a police officer where many times the criminals you face are better armed than the cops, i suggest you keep youre mouths shut and look up some more info.....i speak from some indirect experiance as my father was a police officer in Essex County, NJ, for 36 years, now retired....he faced many dangerous, armed criminals for those 3+ decades and he knew it was either him going home/or in a meat wagon or the criminal was....who do you think wanted to live even more???

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 01:16 PM (9gFP6)

6 and another comment, once you run from ANY police officer, you immedialty become a suspect....if you are told to freeze/raise youre hands/drop to the floor and you run, youre life is in danger of being shot and its youre own fault....i dont give a flying fuck if the officers are plain clothesed or not, once you run, thats it, you have become a possible criminal and the police have the right to not take chances with you....how do they know if youre not an armed man willing to use a gun or whatever weapon youre carrying....and if youre not carrying a weapon such as a knife/gun/axe if you act or make any sudden moves the police have a right to defend themselves....who ever expects the police to just stand there and do nothing, are fucking wacked out of their minds and havent a fucking clue what they are talking about

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 01:21 PM (9gFP6)

7 Given that 1 out of 4 British muslims sympathize with the terrorist's cause, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was a decoy sent to provoke the cops into "abusing" him in order to gain sympathy for muslims and make the government look bad. They probably didn't expect the cops to unload an entire clip into him, but it doesn't hurt their cause. They're wily.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 02:19 PM (8e/V4)

8 Carlos: here here a conspiracy theory that works for me.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 03:17 PM (D3+20)

9 Here here Carlos that is a conspiracy theory I can live with.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 03:18 PM (D3+20)

10 The bombers have this guy's blood on their hands. Their mass execution of fifty-plus people two weeks ago and their failed attempt just recently was the indirect cause of this man's death.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 23, 2005 03:21 PM (sstgd)

11 Bomp, Bomp, Bomp another one bites the dust.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 03:52 PM (CBNGy)

12 John: Come on man. The Brits have to get permission and have good reason just to carry guns on a arrest. If they didn't have prior knowledge of something wrong with this guy they wouldn't have been carrying guns. In London the police don't shoot minorities and muslims. The mayor hugs them and makes excuses for their behavior. Time to get real.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 04:31 PM (CBNGy)

13 Klanrooster you are an ignorant pig - the guy was GUNNED DOWN in COLD BLOOD by UNDERCOVERs. THANOS - Screw you with a fire hydrant, his blood is solely on the hands of the guy who PUMPED FIVE BULLETS INTO HIS HEAD.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 06:50 PM (ScqM8)

14 God save the Queen, cause TOURISTS ARE MONEY.. and our figurehead is not what she seems!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:46 PM (ScqM8)

15 DSM, are you saying that the Queen is actually...Elvis Presley??!! I've suspected as much ever since the tombstone misspelled his middle name! What better way for the KING to go into hiding than by becoming the QUEEN!

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 23, 2005 08:03 PM (RHG+K)

16 Just got back to Texas. IÂ’m wasted. A couple of quick comments before bed. I. Â“LONDON Â— The man gunned down yesterday by police as he ran onto a London subway train had no connection to this week's terrorist attacks, police said today. They called the death "a tragedy." Police identified the man as Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, and said he was a Brazilian citizen. Residents in the Tulse Hill section of London, near where de Menezes was first spotted by undercover police, said they did not know him. "We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005," the police said in a statement. "FOR SOMEBODY TO LOSE THEIR LIFE IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES IS A TRAGEDY AND ONE THAT THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE REGRETS." GREG- IN POLITICAL PARLANCE, THIS IS A TACIT ADMISSION THAT THE MAN WAS INNOCENT. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002398723_weblondon23.html GREG-A HISPANIC MAN, SEES 3 MEN WHO APPEAR TO BE HOOLIGANS RUNNING AT HIM WITH DRAWN GUN AND RUNS FOR HIS LIFE. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN CARLOS. Â“ NO GREG, I WOULD HAVE STOPPED WHEN THE POLICE IDENTIFIED THEMSEVESÂ’ DID THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES? WHAT DOES, Â‘HE WAS CHALLENGEDÂ’ MEAN? WITNESSES CLAIM THE MEN SAID Â‘GET DOWN, GET DOWNÂ’. NO ONE REPORTED THAT THE POLICE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES. II. Hours after the shooting, Police Commissioner Ian Blair said the victim was "directly linked" to the investigations into attacks Thursday and July 7. In the latter, suicide bombings on trains and a bus killed 56 people, including four attackers. Police initially said the victim attracted police attention because he left a house that was under surveillance after Thursday's bungled bombings, in which devices planted on three subway trains and a double-decker bus failed to detonate properly. Stockwell is near Oval station, one of those targeted. "He was then followed by surveillance officers to the station. His clothing and his behavior at the station added to their suspicions," police said Friday. But Saturday, a police official said on condition of anonymity that Menezes was "not believed to be connected in any way to any of the London bombings." "FOR SOMEBODY TO LOSE THEIR LIFE IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES IS A TRAGEDY AND ONE THAT THE METROPOLITAN POLICE SERVICE REGRETS," A SPOKESMAN SAID ON CONDITION OF ANONYMITY, WHICH IS POLICE POLICY. However, police did not explain what went wrong or say whether Menezes had done anything illegal. Menezes' family was Roman Catholic. When asked if he had become Muslim in Britain, Agostino Ferreira Rosa, a policeman in Gonzaga said: "According to his family, he had nothing to do with Muslims or Islamism. He was Catholic." http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Europe/Britain_Underground.html GREG-POLICE CHANGE THEIR STORY. LIARS! THIS WAS A GOOD CATHOLIC BOY, YBP AND BRAD. III. SAO PAULO, Brazil Â— Brazil's government demanded an explanation Saturday for the fatal police shooting of Brazilian citizen on a London subway car. London police initially said the man chased down and shot to death by plainclothes officers was tied to the recent terror bombings, but conceded Saturday that they no longer believed that was the case. http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Latin_America_And_Caribbean/Brazil_Britain_Bombings.html GREG- WILL NO ONE JOIN ME IN CONDEMING THIS ACT? NO ONE? WHEN FIRST REPORTED MANY OF YOU TOOK COMFORT IN THIS MANÂ’S DEATH. MANY OF YOU REJOICED AT IT. AND YOUÂ’RE CHRISTIANS? YOU ARE WORSHIPPING THE ANTI-CHRIST! BASTARDS! DSM- YOUÂ”RE KICKING SOME SERIOUS ASS.

Posted by: greg at July 23, 2005 09:40 PM (/+dAV)

17 greg+DSM=idiots of a feather flock together proves true once again

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:46 PM (9gFP6)

18 had some already greg????...bet ya couldnt have just one, could ya???

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 10:01 PM (9gFP6)

19 now isn't that interesting. Greg believes that the London bombings were a Government plot, yet today posts this man was killed in cold blood. Tell us O'King of Bacofoil: if they were running PsyOps as you claimed the other day, Why didn't they link this man to the terrorist plot thus avoiding responsibility of killing an innocent man? Your opinions the other day was the bombers where innocent Muslim lambs set up by the man, now this guy can't be linked? So which is it Greg, you can't have it both ways.

Posted by: dave at July 23, 2005 10:02 PM (DO6vD)

20 not only is greg and idiot but it seems from his last post that maybe he is a child molester perhaps....delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks.....nice, real nice there ole greggy boy

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 10:08 PM (9gFP6)

21 i mean, thats not even remotely funny...not in the slightest...talking about having sex with children is fucking sickening and makes greg a sub-human in my and many others eyes...i would hope, for youre sake greg, that you where either making a sick joke, or youre high/drunk when you posted that

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 10:11 PM (9gFP6)

22 >>>"Tell us O'King of Bacofoil: if they were running PsyOps as you claimed the other day, Why didn't they link this man to the terrorist plot thus avoiding responsibility of killing an innocent man?" greg, dave makes a good point. If the Brits are bombing themselves then why are they shooting people who appear to have been perfectly innocent? Is the illuminati really this incompetent? You can't have it both ways. They are either brilliant beyond our ken or they are apparently perfect morons.

Posted by: Carlos at July 23, 2005 10:11 PM (8e/V4)

23 Read Operation Northwoods or watch "Judge Dredd" for Godssakes - GUbbamint does shit to their own to consolidate power!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 10:59 PM (ScqM8)

24 Greg, whaddafunk - kids?! That's immoral and illegal!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:11 PM (ScqM8)

25 HAHA! did Down Syndrome Meme just reference the "Operation Northwoods" ? where did you read about that? "Flying Saucer Watch" magazine? Tardboy, that document has long been debunked please note the wording of 'holiday' (European) in the document, vs. "Vacation" the American wording. God, just when you thought asshats couldn't get any stupider, someone scraped the bottom of the barrel and scooped out DSM.

Posted by: dave at July 24, 2005 12:15 AM (DO6vD)

26 DSM says read Northwoods, because it is a real government document in the national security archives! It may be downloaded free here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 12:30 AM (ScqM8)

27 DSM: I've scraped stuff off my boot with more intelligence than you. Try actually READING the whole document, then compare the wording in it's entirety. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: dave at July 24, 2005 12:44 AM (DO6vD)

28 and Judge Dredd????....a comic book/movie????....oh yea, im gonna get my info on the goverment from them...oh yea......someone give DSM a nice long pull on a crack pipe. please

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 24, 2005 10:33 AM (9gFP6)

29 Man, I'm just glad shit like that isn't happening in NYC. It's bad enough that the cops here are being rude and busting through everyone's bags. Like that would keep anything from happening? Just think of how much explosives you could shove up your ass...Gayrooster will tell you that an eager ass can accommodate a huge payload. How easy is it to sneak into the subway tunnels in NYC? Very easy. What happened to that Brazilian guy? I wasn't there...but obviously he was scared shitless and was killed by some fuckers. There's no excuse for what they did: If someone runs, you contain them alive!!! Leg shot, arm shot...not a fucking 5 to the head!! What if he was a terrorist? Even more important to keep him alive and get information from him to prevent future attacks. What those limeys did was absolutely stupid and they know it. They have admitted it, so everyone in here should stop sounding like dumb fucks and stop defending their actions.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 12:22 PM (perrS)

30 By the way, there are lots of delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks. The exchange rate kicks ass! Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 09:58 P I DID NOT MAKE THIS POST. THIS IS THE 3RD TIME IN 3 DAYS THAT SOMEONE HAS IMPERSONATED ME. DAVE ADMITTED TO IT THE FIRST TIME. RUSTY, THIS IS BULLSHIT! PLEASE FIND OUT WHO IS IMPERSONATING ME AND BAN THEM!

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:19 PM (/+dAV)

31 Contain suicidebombers alive.. what bull The guy panicked and was stupid enough to run, the police chased him through the entire station and only shot him when he got on a train full of people, imagine what could have happened if he had detonated a beltbomb.. It's a no brainer, they took no chances and wasted him right there. What I don't get is how could they could let a suspected terrorist get that far. Why didn't they stop him earlier if they were tailing him all the way from his house?? Something must have gone wrong.

Posted by: Ren at July 24, 2005 01:24 PM (Ey6Mw)

32 Carlos:'dave makes a good point. If the Brits are bombing themselves then why are they shooting people who appear to have been perfectly innocent? Carlos and Dave, These psyops are so compartmentalized, that the right hand and the left hand don't know what the left finger nail is doing. AGAIN, I DIDN'T MAKE THAT FUCKING PEDOPHILIC COMMENT. FUCK YOU, WHOEVER DID IT! NEXT TIME I WILL HIGHER A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND AN ATTORNEY AND SUE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU FOR DEFAMATION AND SLANDER.!

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:29 PM (/+dAV)

33 Anyone deliberately posing as another poster will be flushed on the first offense.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 24, 2005 01:36 PM (RHG+K)

34 BLUTO, THANK YOU. PLEASE FIND THE IP ADDRESS OF THE PERSON WHO POSTED: By the way, there are lots of delicious young boys to be had in Italy for only a few bucks. The exchange rate kicks ass! Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 09:58 P AND BAN THE SON OF A BITCH.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 01:47 PM (/+dAV)

35 Ok, lets start with the premise that what the police here did was wrong, and that they should certainly not have shot this man. Now please explain what the police should do in future situations to: A) Avoid shooting anyone who is suspected of carrying a bomb, jumps a turnstile at a security checkpoint, and runs onto a subway train. B) Avoid having a real bomber who has a bomb, jumps a turnstile, and runs onto a train from detonating said bomb and killing dozens or hundreds of civilians. C) Avoid having a bomber, once ordered to the ground by police, wait and set off his bomb to take out the police trying to peacably subdue him. Somehow I can't picture avoiding all of A, B, and C; but maybe I'm not as clever as the people who are certain the police got this wrong. Please clarify the appropriate responses to avoid all 3 of these situations. Gekkobear

Posted by: Gekkobear at July 24, 2005 02:18 PM (XWr9N)

36 Thing is, what is there to argue about? A non-terrorist was killed, and the police have admitted to screwing up. End of story & hope it doesn't happen again. The only pathetic thing is anyone in here without remorse who diss the guy for running...I bet if the guy was related to you, you'd turn your tune real fast. Don't be a bunch of fucking dicks. Wasting a civilian non-terrorist who was obviously scared or confused is no "Darwin": it's a tragedy.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 05:21 PM (perrS)

37 Greg: first: I did not impersonate you, I told you I had made a mistake, as my message was clearly addressed TO you, and contained no speech that claimed to be from you, negative or otherwise. second: You'll hire a attorney and a private investigator over comments that were posted in the name 'Greg' are you the only Greg in the world? did it contain material that was unique to you, and only you were personally defamed? give me a break. Shouldn't you and your Attorney be filing under the FOIA's regarding roswell? I'll also give you a clue: without a subpoena no one is under obligation to fork over logs, IP or web to You, your Attorney, Private investigator or otherwise.

Posted by: dave at July 24, 2005 06:24 PM (DO6vD)

38 Greg: Quit being a liberal crybaby and begging for Rusty and Company to interfer for you. You sissy. Many of us has had others to the same to us. Me, I just tell the son of a bitch about his low class whoreing mother. But crying seems to be the path you always take. Friggin baby. It was probably osamabeenthere. He wants to be white so much he would even pretend to be white sissy like you.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 07:12 PM (CBNGy)

39 Yeah, 'hired'. So, I was pissed and my circadian rythm is off by 7 hours. Rooster, Shut up. You've asked for me and others to be banned on many, many occasions. Dave, I'm glad to hear it wasn't you. I take the matter very seriously and I will attempt to determine the identity of the offender. And yes, the slander was obviously directed at me as it references my trip to Italy. A suit may push the envelope in that I am a semi-anonymous entity on this blog. But it is also reasonable to assume that my actual identity can be easily determined. I don't really blog anonymously because I have given so many details about myself that anyone with half a brain could figure out who I am with a little research. I'm prepared to push the envelope.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 08:37 PM (/+dAV)

40 Greg, some fucknut spoofed me about indecent acts, too. Bunch of chickenwads. I think it was Rooster.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 08:48 PM (ScqM8)

41 Greg...hope you find the imposter. Gayrooster, I'm white as fuckin' wonder bread, cracker-jack. Listen, just because you like being rammed by black cock doesn't mean you have to be mean to me every time I post.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 09:16 PM (perrS)

42 Rooster's just pissed all the time 'cause he caught his daughters getting long-stroked by some Mississippi Black Snake.

Posted by: greg at July 24, 2005 09:28 PM (/+dAV)

43 If someone in my family was incoherent mentally ill or just beyond stupid while endangering others, IÂ’d definitely not blame the police for that. The way this guy wasted his life.. I have no pity. Let's face it, what the guy did was stupid, it cost him his life and that's the big tragedy. Brazil was shocked and perplexed, and expected a full explanation from the UK authorities. UK authorities should demand an full explanation from Brazil to why one of their countrymen was running away from the law on to a subway full of people, wearing a winter jacket in middle summer during a serious crisis and manhunt for terrorist out to bomb London. The police f'ed up because they did not stop him earlier, the guy FUBAR, they had to shot him. How else do you safely disarm and apprehend a suspected belt bomber who is not complying? Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ren at July 24, 2005 09:52 PM (Ey6Mw)

44 Rooster! Grunt, grunt!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:38 PM (ScqM8)

45 osamabeenthere sounds like one of those idiots who follow Al Sharpton around New York screaming remember Towanna Brawley. Yea, I can see it now osamaneverbeenanywherebutharlem, Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. Nuts of of feather run together. Again Greg the traitor who claims to be a good catholic returns to his roots. Just because his wife (ex wifes) and mother preferred black snakes to white he thinks others would sink as low as his family. Maybe thats why his 1st two wifes left him. Wasn't much change switching from a white nigger to a black one.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:28 AM (CBNGy)

46 Klanooster, what is that THING wriggling out of your ass??

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:36 AM (ScqM8)

47 Man, this is getting too funny. Oh, Gayrooster: that's TOO funny, not TO funny. Anyway, are you still confused about my race? I figured if you hate me I HAD to be of color, right? Hahaha. I can see your future hell now: being stuck in a hot little room with 20 ebonics teachers and 400 boom-boxes blasting NWA...for eternity. Ren, how about a few leg shots or arm shots before blowing someone's nose out the back of their head? Fact is, if the police had their shit together they never would have let him enter that subway station!!

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 10:08 AM (perrS)

48 "Ren, how about a few leg shots or arm shots before blowing someone's nose out the back of their head?" While you're at it, Wyatt Earp, why not shoot the detonator out of his hand? The point is to kill the suspected suicide bomber before he can detonate his device so that bystanders don't get blown up. That's the reason for the head shot.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 25, 2005 11:18 AM (RHG+K)

49 Exactly, there is no other way "There's no point in shooting at somebody's chest because that's where the bomb is likely to be," "There's no point in shooting anywhere else because if they fall down they detonate it. It is drawn on the experience from other countries including Sri Lanka When he was challenged by police in the Tube station, he fled, reportedly leaping the ticket barrier. Over the past year there have been an increased number of immigration checks at Tube stations - a policy widely reported in Brazilian papers in London. BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the type of visa Mr Menezes had been given would normally be valid for one-and-a-half to two years. Mr Menezes had not renewed the visa, adding: "That wouldn't explain why he was shot, but it might provide an explanation as to why he ran away if - that is indeed what he did do.BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the type of visa Mr Menezes had been given would normally be valid for one-and-a-half to two years. He said Mr Menezes had not renewed the visa, adding: "That wouldn't explain why he was shot, but it might provide an explanation as to why he ran away if - that is indeed what he did do. Source: BBC

Posted by: Ren at July 25, 2005 12:37 PM (Ey6Mw)

50 Ren, I knew I remembered reading the man described as an "illegal immigrant" but couldn't find a citation for it later. Do you have a link?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 25, 2005 04:20 PM (RHG+K)

51 Sure thing, here you go: bbcnews - Police shot Brazilian eight times

Posted by: Ren at July 25, 2005 05:38 PM (Ey6Mw)

52 Man, you guys are blatantly ignoring the fucking fact that if they were following him, they NEVER SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED HIM INTO THE STATION!! Oh yeah, and since when does anyone have to shoot someone in the head 7 times? Was there anything left? Those fuckers should be discharged from the police force. Or would you guys like me to "suspect" you of being a suicide bomber and just waste you guys before asking you questions?

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 06:20 PM (perrS)

53 osama, He ran into the station. He ran down the stairs and jumped the turnstile. Then he ran onto a carriage, and, by one eyewitness account grabbed another passenger. You seem to be having trouble understanding the concept that this guy was fleeing, perhaps because his visa had expired. I think you're just disappointed that the last batch of bombs fizzled.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 25, 2005 06:34 PM (RHG+K)

54 Man, you guys are blatantly ignoring the fucking fact that if they were following him, they NEVER SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED HIM INTO THE STATION!! No shit Sherlock I was the first one to mention that. Speaking hypotetically, the guy probably was not considered dangerous and they only wanted to ask him about the activity in the house they were watching, that was until he jolted the police and started to run like crazy down the tube.. police had their orders, THANOS35 clearly explained why the police had to act the way they did. Had they stopped him outside the subway station it's possible he'd not be foolish enough to run away and he'd still be alive today. But the guy wasn't considered a threat and the kind of hindsight we're blessed to have on this right now they did not have back then..

Posted by: Ren at July 26, 2005 06:01 AM (Ey6Mw)

55 If the police weren't drinking so much jolt soda pop and rotting away their yellow rat's teeth, maybe they would have been able to deal with the problem without making sure the guy had a closed casket funeral. Bluto, the only thing that fizzled in here was that fart of a post you just laid on us all. So let's just start shooting anyone who runs from now on, ok? That way we can always be sure no one....er...dies in subways anymore. Pblththt. Shiiiiiiiiiiiit. When I think of how many times I've run into a subway in NYC, I'm lucky to be alive for not living in London! Still haven't been searched by NY's finest yet.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 27, 2005 04:24 PM (5NVVZ)

56 Maybe we will get lucky and osamaneverbeenthere will meet NYC's finest.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:16 AM (CBNGy)

57 Looks like someone found out about Greg the traitor and the little boys. He sure takes it personal. Like guilty people do. Not only a traitor but a pedophile. Knew it the whole time. And Greg we have already figured who you are. A traitorous pedophile. They say animals like you cannot be helped. Why don't you do one good thing in your lousy sick life and end it for the good of all? You can do it sicko. Just find a tall building and think of young boys on your way down. Filthy sick bastard.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:28 AM (CBNGy)

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Sharm El-Sheik Bombings

As more information is reported, the situation just gets worse.

From the AP:

The attacks appeared well coordinated. Two car bombs, possibly by suicide attackers, went off simultaneously at 1:15 a.m. just more than 2 miles apart. A third bomb, believed hidden in a sack, detonated around the same time near a beachside walkway where tourists often stroll at night.
A total of 83 people were confirmed dead, said Dr. Saeed Abdel Fattah, manager of the Sharm el-Sheik International Hospital where the victims were taken. Among the dead were two Britons, two Germans and an Italian, he added, and Czech officials said one Czech tourist was also killed. Rescue workers were still searching for victims at some attack scenes.
Several hours after the attacks, a group claiming ties to al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the explosion on an Islamic web site. The group, the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, al-Qaida, in Syria and Egypt, was one of two extremist groups that also claimed responsibility for October bombings at the Egyptian resorts of Taba and Ras Shitan that killed 34. The group also claimed responsbility for a Cairo bombing in late April.

Currently, 83 are known dead and 119 are wounded. Others following the story include: ITB, LGF.

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1 well if Egypt doesnt get its ass in gear and severly crack down on such terrorist groups, it can kiss millions of tourist dollars out the window

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 01:25 PM (9gFP6)

2 If the BUSH ADMINISTRATION doesn't get its' wild-ass psychoses under control, the whole world is going to be coming for you, THANOS.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 06:51 PM (ScqM8)

3 i say bring em on, DSM....im not some Mulsim terrorists ass kissing coward like you are, you stupid, uneducated, closeminded dickhead....go suck an egg

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 07:42 PM (9gFP6)

4 83 dead and 119 wounded all at the hands of the Islamic Fascists. DSM is blaming the Bush administration for this? Man, this is the reason liberalism has lost so much credibility in this country. Thank God we have a leader who will stand up to this type of mindless mass murder because he sees it for what it is. DSM and the Mayor of London will witness the slaughter of innocent people by these animals and blame themselves. It is incredible to me how many people still drink this self-destructive Kool aid. Way to go DSM your voice has given the next mass murderer hope and reason to kill.

Posted by: Brad at July 23, 2005 08:25 PM (pO1tP)

5 Bradley, Rooster is a bad infliuence on you. Bush has stirred chum into shark infested waters, someone is going to get bit in the islamofascist feeding frenzy, dammit!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:14 PM (ScqM8)

6 Greyrooster: Has your back DSM : Stabs you in the back. Funny thing is, Greyrooster would probably fair better under the Caliphate you want to surrender to than your liberal ass would. I can just see you before the Mullahs talking about keeping that abortion clinic open and the rights of women,gay rights etc, man they are going to love you. YouÂ’re an apologist for those who would behead you when they get the power they want. On second thought, you would probably go along with their beliefs so you could keep your government job.

Posted by: Brad at July 24, 2005 12:15 AM (pO1tP)

7 Brad, do you work at an abortion clinic?

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 01:30 AM (ScqM8)

8 Ya Dsm, you found me out. I donÂ’t know what these Egyptians are complaining about. 83 dead around the OLE Mill is really a pretty slow day. But, I guess they have us beat, we donÂ’t have any wounded here. Well, IÂ’m going to Europe with my partner this fall, better get back to Â“workÂ”. Those vacations arenÂ’t free

Posted by: Brad at July 24, 2005 10:40 PM (pO1tP)

9 83 dead in Egypt and the stupid prick Downing Street Moron somehow thinks our great President Bush did it. This low life America haters has reached the lowest form of life. He gives the enemy support and excuses for their killing of innocents then blames the crimes on America. Rusty: Time to send this piece of muslim loving garbage to annoy another blog. There is no value listening to his anti American garbage any longer.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:36 AM (CBNGy)

10 Klanooster, YOU are the crime on America, my beloved country.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:37 AM (ScqM8)

11 This is so stupid to fight on a board like this. Do you all pig headed idiots not realize that this kind of thinking is whats behind all the death as is?? Terrorism CAN NOT be faught with more death.... more innocent people dying. It has to be faught by deprogramming the people who do it!!! They are programmed in vidoes that show dead Muslims.... why doesnt someone make videos accessable that show the dead that have been killed by terrorism??? That showes the families of the dead.... that personalizes the people they kill???? This is no ome's fault but the fundie cowards who put innocent ppl up blowing themselves away..... Not America's, Not London's. Not Egypts, nor is the fault of any other country that has been bombed.... the fault lies solely on the cowards that plan it all, but are too chickenshit to blow themselves up!!!!

Posted by: Voces at July 27, 2005 02:17 PM (ywZa8)

12 Voces: That in essense is what we have been saying. Only we spell it out and say that the Muslim religious leaders are behind the terrorist bombings. I mean. As the bomb and behead and murder and injure they yell Allah is great. This means they have been programmed by who? Not us.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:08 AM (CBNGy)

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July 22, 2005

The Canine Play Bow

Animal researchers have recently described the Canine Play Bow, which is recognized not only by domesticated dogs but also wild canine species such as foxes and wolves. It seems to be a way for a dog to say, "Let's play! We'll romp and nip...even sniff butts!"

Canine Play Bow more...

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1 No pics, brutha.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 22, 2005 10:57 PM (Kr6/f)

2 Really? They show up on my display.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 22, 2005 11:00 PM (RHG+K)

3 Lemme check IE

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 22, 2005 11:02 PM (Kr6/f)

4 Firefox it's a black vertical line, IE is a red x, for me anyway.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 22, 2005 11:04 PM (Kr6/f)

5 I uploaded the images now, instead of using the URL from my Hello account. Any difference?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 22, 2005 11:20 PM (RHG+K)

6 Yup! There they are! w00t! Nice analogy, btw.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 22, 2005 11:21 PM (Kr6/f)

7 I passed this one by Rusty first, and he said to go for the fatwa.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 22, 2005 11:24 PM (RHG+K)

8 Beware the hairy boar that has a play dance all its' own!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 12:26 AM (ScqM8)

9 "...We have a special message from the Mayor of Baghdad... The Mayor would like you to hang up your clothes inside and not on the windowsill. The Mayor wants you to keep Baghdad beautiful..."

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 05:56 AM (ScqM8)

10 That is too funny. First chuckle of the day.

Posted by: Oyster at July 23, 2005 06:35 AM (YudAC)

11 And how much did it cost for these "animal researchers" to find out something that almost everyone who owns a dog has known for years?

Posted by: AndyJ at July 23, 2005 07:23 AM (Lik9t)

12 What about people acting like dogs? All this groveling and other unmentionable arse-licking political behaviour towards the BUSH ADMINISTRATION is absolutely despicable. The 101st Keyboarding CHICKENHAWKS are bathing in the most Santorum-filled bath, all grubby and savoring the horrible stench of putrid LIES. LIES that have filled over 1800 BODY BAGS!!! THOUSANDS of IRAQIs have been blown up or gunned down in a ruthless war. Meanwhile, the 101st Keyboarding CHICKENHAWKS cheer on as their childen are financially ravaged by the BUSH JUNTA to pay for OIL WARS. Klanooster, REMF, Bradley, Kimberley, THANOS35, Improbulus and other dedicated American Warmongers are trouserless over barrels of oil screaming to the BUSH ADMINISTRATION to beat them harder with the stick, just before Klanooster's Hairy Boar gets ready for serial grunting. Shame on the Warmongers who don't serve - JOIN THE ARMY!!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 08:51 AM (ScqM8)

13 DSM I'm bored with your repetitive crap. At least greg gives ut variety in our entertainment. What have you done lately for America? Other than put her down I mean. Move to freaking Peru. have you written one letter to troops? You scream about bush all day long but I bet you cashed that check he sent you. ESAD decode that.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:12 AM (D3+20)

14 Down's Syndrome Memo, are you having some sort of attack?

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 23, 2005 09:16 AM (RHG+K)

15 Bluto shall we delete his boring ass?? I need the practice anyway but it's your thread sir.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:19 AM (D3+20)

16 Let him twist in the wind.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 23, 2005 09:59 AM (RHG+K)

17 O.K. DSM. Just so you know, I am in the Army. I'm also in the middle of my second OIF tour. I call myself REMF 'cause any leg who has to leave the FOB and go out on patrol while I sit in relative safety will call me a REMF, or a FOBbit. I don't mind. I have nothing to prove. The 3rd ID patch on my right shoulder and the CMB above my left breast pocket that I got on my 1st tour says it all. All you anti-war/anti-bush idiots are doing is telling these murdering savages that they are are winning. That all they have to do is just keep blowing up soldiers and civilians for a bit longer, and we will run with our tail between our legs. I really believe in what we're doing over here. It really pisses me off when short sighted morons like you shit all over the U.S.

Posted by: REMF at July 23, 2005 10:19 AM (aLiCo)

18 Ooh-Rah, REMF, I just wish I was there with ya bud, but the Army won't take mae back until the Chinese Army is having a parade on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 11:11 AM (0yYS2)

19 That's pretty good. But you need to work a Scott Baio into it some how in order to score really big points.

Posted by: Charles at July 23, 2005 12:10 PM (lQ1Or)

20 I think if you showed the pic to any number of people, and asked what the dog on the left was saying to the one on the right, you'd get a pretty high percentage of correct guesses. But it's a cute name or label for the "gesture". Something like the slightly hunched posture with arms partly spead and wiggling tickle-fingers forward dads use to invite play with their toddlers and infants, I think!

Posted by: Brian H at July 23, 2005 12:29 PM (51Oqh)

21 hey jackass DSM...one...im too old to serve the armed forces....two..i have flat feet, damaged rotor cuffs in both shoulders for years....three damaged spinal dics.....four....both knees have special inserts as my cartilage is long gone.....now next time you make such a FUCKING stupid comment about me, think back on this you motherf*****g coward....i may have all this body damage, but id kick youre cowardly, yellow, liberal,islamic asskissing self all the way from NJ to CA and back again....so why dont you do us all a big favor and take a nice long walk off a short pier straight into shark infested waters....you stinking heap of cow flop

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 01:31 PM (9gFP6)

22 I'm with Howie. I thought Greg was boring until this asshole Downing Street Moron came aboard. Same shit, over and over. Talk about a boar, he's the bore. DSMoron: I already served. Twice. You didn't because you couldn't hack it. REMF: Thanks. Bluto: Do it man. Who needs this idiot? We've heard all he has to say. Same crap. Over and over and over and over.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 05:04 PM (CBNGy)

23 For your pointy-klan-headed info, DSM is not shitting on America. DSM is shitting right on the top of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION- the scumbags who brought us two wars that resulted in 1800 DEAD SOLDIERS and thousands of kids, mothers and others DEAD in foreign lands. REMF, you don't need to join the army, but you have to wake up and see what the hell is going on. I don't like suicide bombers, so i say stop training the bastards with my tax money. This war WILL COST MORE THAN VIETNAM - the war that gave birth to Klanrooster and his racist shitmind. This Blog is full of walking zombies who fall into line like lemmings behind BUSH - the false Christian hypocrite. Bush is the ultimate betrayer, the sacrificing the youth over saudi oil. Sick, sick, sick!!!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 07:02 PM (ScqM8)

24 you are shitting all over America and every single American citizen with youre hate speach and the fact that everything you say supports and backs the islamic terrorists who have been wanting to kill us ALL long before Bush was president you freakin idiot....go read some history books, if you can read anything beyond kindergarten level...you make me sick you puke bag

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 07:47 PM (9gFP6)

25 For your pointy-klan-headed info, DSM is not shitting on America. DSM is shitting right on the top of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION-Actually, DSM, it increases the credibility of the Bush adminstration to have foul-mouthed foreign weasels such as yourself criticize it. the scumbags who brought us two wars that resulted in 1800 DEAD SOLDIERS and thousands of kids, mothers and others DEAD in foreign lands.So it was just fine with you that the Saddam Hussein regime invaded and looted a neighboring soverign country? It was just okay with you that Saddam's degenerate offspring terrorized and raped at will? It was just okay with you that Saddam rewarded the disfunctional families of suicide bombers with $25,000? It was just okay with you that thousands of Americans were murdered while going about their own peaceful business? Why you flat-headed, ignorant, lying, insipid jackass, it's not just okay with me, or any other loyal American. Stop and think before you push the "post" button next time. REMF, you don't need to join the army, but you have to wake up and see what the hell is going on.REMF has a much better idea of what's going on than you do, you evil little agent provocateur. I don't like suicide bombers, so i say stop training the bastards with my tax money. Well I hate suicide bombers and their apologists. Your tax money? College students don't pay taxes, and foreign nationals don't either, so you're a liar on two counts. This war WILL COST MORE THAN VIETNAM Of course it will. Our troops have to walk on eggs and take extra risks to pander to the effete and uninformed opinions of ignorant little talleywhacker tuggers like you. - the war that gave birth to Klanrooster and his racist shitmind. This Blog is full of walking zombies who fall into line like lemmings behind BUSH - the false Christian hypocrite. Bush is the ultimate betrayer, the sacrificing the youth over saudi oil. Sick, sick, sick!!!!Make sure you wipe up the drool before you leave. Thanks for listening, or should I say, "kamsi hamnida".

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 23, 2005 08:38 PM (RHG+K)

26 gives Bluto a standing ovation...Bravo!!!!

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 09:50 PM (9gFP6)

27 Rusty, you gotta ban these morons, they make every thread about them. They are going to kill your blog.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 10:00 PM (0yYS2)

28 BAN THE MORONS!!! I Couldn't agree more!!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 23, 2005 11:17 PM (ScqM8)

29 Obviously this thread isn't about dog behavior anymore...no wait, I'm wrong. Hahaha. Anyway, what's the point of scientists all of a sudden identifying the play bow? Fuck, what are they going to tell me next? That my dog is happy when it wags it's tail? Damn, never knew that! Thanks! Now when were you going to create an AIDS vaccine?

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 12:29 PM (perrS)

30 Woof.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 05:22 PM (perrS)

31 Heavy Bluto heavy. Why are we educating these foreign America haters? Kick them out. Make room for American kids. Very few appreciate the education we give them anyway.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 06:49 PM (CBNGy)

32 What Downing Street Moron fails to realize that shiting on our elected leaders is shiting on America. JPresident Bush is our leader because the majority of Americans elected him so. He represents America. Shiting on him is shiting on America. That is why we hate this piece of foreign shit who calles himself Downing Street Moron. Go talk about your own countries leaders. That is if they allow it. And get the fuck out of my country. We don't want you, we don't need you. You are shit. Go back to your shit country. I am an American and proud of it. You are probably embarassed to be from your country. That is why you attempt to keep it a secret. A piece of shit from a shit pile. Just for your info. You may think you can hide in a dorm, but you can't. Good Americans are everywhere.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 24, 2005 06:59 PM (CBNGy)

33 Greyrooster - a whiff of stale flatulation in the wind.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 07:03 PM (ScqM8)

34 Holy Mecca shit....Gayrooster didn't even slag on me in his last post. DSM, I'm getting jealous. Gayrooster, news flash for ya: Americans think BUSH SUCKS!!! Take your pointy white hood off and check the polls. Plus, a microscopic Rove (traitor, inc.) induced lead that is a amoeba hair between Bush (traitor, inc + rich fuck) and Kerry (rich + strange looking and long-winded) "does not a majority make" -Yoda. If our goddamn prez is doing a shitty job, any American has every right to say so without being accused of shitting on America or being a traitor. It's lemmings like yourself who get their pubes all up in a wheel-knot when anyone so much as challenges the ways of our ruling village idiot.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 24, 2005 09:27 PM (perrS)

35 Man, I think I'm on the Tag team with OSAMA! Screw the 25 Mil reward, I agree with ya! BUSH is a scumbag and Kerry reported for Pooty. I'm just an old redneck who doesn't trust da Gubbamint worth a red cent! Screw the politicians and their slavish arse-lickers.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 24, 2005 11:32 PM (ScqM8)

36 osamaneverbeenanywhere: You are just a pile of ghetto shit who falsely claims the average American doesn't like President Bush. Yet, the truth is, he was reelected. You must get out of Harlem and experience the real world. As long as you listen to Jessie Jackson and al sharpton you will always be led astray. Of course, I realize that many like you cannot, will not ever change. Its the raised by cannibals thing. If you are born to them and raised like them you will probably be like them. It's a black thing that keeps you in the ghetto jealous of your bettors. I can't change it. You must. And apparently you are to jealous and bitter to make the change. So sit in the ghetto and continue to cry your life away. Sucker. Oh yea. When you leave the ghetto please don't mug any poor old white folks. Just because the welfare lady caught you lying about how many kids you have and cut the welfare check. Try getting a job. You will feel better about yourself. I know going to those black muslim meetings and buying Malcolm X Tee Shirts takes a lot of time and money but you should find time to get a job. That way you can buy your own crack and not have to beg from your neighbors. Have a little pride. And now for a little secret. Racists are not born. They are made by what they see and experience around them. That's why I'm proud to be a racist. It was a thoughtful, intelligent decision based on the facts.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 02:57 AM (CBNGy)

37 Klanrooster, you are a scumbag ho!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 04:21 AM (ScqM8)

38 This thread has become so fascinating since Gayrooster thinks I'm black...and to think I can't even get a fucking tan! I guess I've been checking the wrong box on all those forms my whole life. "Huh? Only check 'caucasian' if you have nappy dreads? Oh-tay, suh. Right away, suh! Can I shine your shoes, suh? Which water fountain can I use, suh? I like da back of da bus, suh!" Gaycock, only racists are the inferior race. Wrap yourself up in your klan party toga, add a little kerosene and light a match.

Posted by: osamabeenthere at July 25, 2005 10:19 AM (perrS)

39 Okay, what's being parodied? Bowing down as a religious practice? Because even some Christians do this.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 25, 2005 12:30 PM (x+5JB)

40 YBP, No, not bowing, per se. Extremely orthodox views are the target. People who are not willing to "...render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's". That, and Rusty is still desperate to get a fatwa, so I took a shot.

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 25, 2005 04:17 PM (RHG+K)

41 Hey Bluto: Well, I'm pretty orthodox, and certainly follow Christ's above command. Cheers.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 25, 2005 06:24 PM (uL7sR)

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Egyptian Resort Bombed

It's breaking news and I've gotten some indications that it's worse than described as follows.

From The Courier-Mail:

THIRTY people died and about 100 more were wounded when four car bombs rocked the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh and hotels at nearby Naama Bay today.
A police source said four car bombs appeared to have exploded - one near the Sharm el-Sheikh bazaar, and three in Naama Bay, at a tourist bazaar, the Ghazala Hotel and the Moevenpick Hotel.
Sources said the explosions had killed up to 30 people and wounded about 100 others.

I've heard that 36 people have died. Information is sketchy right now. It happened about 1:15 am local time. Current reports say seven bombs were detonated.

By the way, on a somewhat related issue, am I the only person that's noticed that when Rusty leaves town, London gets bombed?

[Update 2230 EDT]

From Aljazeera.com:

A series of explosions hit the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm al-Sheikh early Saturday, killing at least 49 people and wounding 150 others, witnesses and police said.
Police officials in Sharm el-Sheik said there may have been as many as seven blasts; three in Naama Bay, which is packed with hotels, and four in the nearby Old Market area.
"Many of the injuries are very serious and they are in critical condition," said one doctor at Sharm el-Sheikh International Hospital.

Eyewitnesses say that the blasts shook windows miles away.

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1 It was bound to happen sooner or later. I looked at Fox News, then here, didn't see anything, all while you were writing your post, I bet. And I did notice that. But then, from what I read, London gets bombed almost every day. Pub-wise, that is.

Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 22, 2005 09:21 PM (Kr6/f)

2 I'm surprized that al Jazeera.com didn't already blame this one on the Mossad. The last time the Islamo-fascist-tards blew up some JOOs at an Egyptian resort they did. Before the bodies were even counted,too.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 22, 2005 10:10 PM (1fSS+)

3 Because as the Islamists are the first to admit, the Islamotards are too stupid to successfully kill any one. Seriously. That's their logic.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 22, 2005 10:11 PM (1fSS+)

4 Beware the bombers WHOEVER they are!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 22, 2005 10:13 PM (ScqM8)

5 Just typical of a bunch of faceless hooded cowards who use these car bombs to do their dirty work its too damn bad that one of their bombs would not go off and blast these monsters to itsy bitsy peices

Posted by: sandpiper at July 22, 2005 10:17 PM (7/75z)

6 Where was Klanrooster's Swift Boat and Rear Echelon MF during all this? Suspicious minds want to know!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 22, 2005 10:55 PM (ScqM8)

7 This is a submission to Dr Kareem of Al Jazeera. Dear Dr. KareemÂ… I feel so sorry for the loss of innocent lives; itÂ’s really a tragedy that it happened on the occasion of a great day in EgyptÂ’s history. IsnÂ’t it surprising that these events are timed with the scheduled upcoming evacuation from Gaza which I am sure Israel will not complete, claiming that the move will further affect its security. God save us all! Ibrahim from Canada I love conspiracy theories.

Posted by: REMF at July 23, 2005 05:58 AM (aLiCo)

8 Gee, I didn't know Egypt had troops in Iraq. What's that you say? They don't? Hmmm....

Posted by: Oyster at July 23, 2005 06:39 AM (YudAC)

9 Another example of the terrorists killing muslims just to get at a few tourists. For any muslims out there that sympathize with them. They will freaking kill you too.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:26 AM (D3+20)

10 Let's just wait a minute now and not rush to judgment. Are we sure yet that it wasn't Jehova's Witnesses? But seriously, Rusty, when are you going to ban greg and DSM? Having them around is like having Special Ed running around yelling "I POOPED MY PANTS!" Neither has yet added any sort of intelligent contribution to this forum, and frankly, I think they keep people away, because nobody wants to read their drivel. Stupidity like theirs might be contagious. There have been several people drop in, make a couple of posts, then leave after the moron twins jump in. They're trying to kill your blog.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 08:45 AM (0yYS2)

11 IM good morning. Hey DSM it's freaking whomever you retard. How's that IM.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 09:02 AM (D3+20)

12 Damn muslim morons,ragheads with nothing better to do.just watch,Mubarak is going to crack down on these spineless woosies in a big way,they will be begging for mercy!!!

Posted by: greg at July 23, 2005 10:31 AM (AQhak)

13 Morning Howie. Hey, check out this e-mail I got from some camelhumper. I will fisk it for your entertainment: "I'm a Muslim and Islam always teaches how to be obedient to God and to respect all people irrespective of their beliefs." Sure it does. That's why muslims kill and oppress non-mulsims, because they respect them. "However even a nice mongrel if it is provoked and pushed against a wall will bite back." I didn't say mongrel, he did. But it fits. "The madrassah in Pakistan teaches young kids to learn the religion and many as young as 12 years old can recite the whole Koran by heart." Better they should learn something that will help them earn a living. By 12 I was building model airplanes that could fly, whereas they just progress to bomb-making. "9/11 is a result of American greediness plundering Arab's resources and supporting the most cruel regime in the world." Ah yes, the old "rape and pillage" argument. Not only are we plundering their resources, we're making them fabulously rich in the process, not to mention the fact that the US contributes more in foreign aid to muslims than muslims produce themselves. Ungrateful scum. And he didn't even mention which regime is the most cruel, but considering that we're talking about muslims, here, there are a lot of contenders. Cavemen. Nothing. But. Cavemen. "Afghanistan and Iraq is just rubbing salt to the wound." Wait, are we supposed to support or overthrow cruel tyrants? I'm confused. We're friendly toward tyrannical muslim regimes, we're bastards. We overthrow tyrannical muslim regimes, we're bastatards. How about we let the ungrateful, subhuman slime rot in their own filth and misery? "As long as the majority still stupid enough to listen to all the lies - 'hate our freedom', WMD, Muslim terrorists, and other rhetorics-you will suffer from the fear of similar incidents." The only mistake Americans make is believing that muslims can be civilized. Muslims can only behave when they've got a boot on their neck. "You have lost some of your freedoms." Name one. "Some businesses have been affected." Like bomb manufacturing? "Mideast tourists are now coming to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia." Good, maybe they'll stop stinking up America. "The business is booming - thanks to bush/blair/sharon." Booming, odd that you should use that word. How about a few megtons worth of boom? Just watch the sky for contrails, they'll be along shortly, no doubt, the way you morons are escalating things. "Those affected directly/indirectly in the UK" I have no idea here, but I'm sure this vile piece of parasitic subhuman garbage meant to gloat somehow over the dead in London. We need a "final solution" for the islamic question.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 11:30 AM (0yYS2)

14 Just so everyone knows that above comment was not from our greg. IM..that's great was it from Amaad?. I've also not noticed the Patriot act buggin me too much even though I'm opposed just for the reason that I doubt that if the situation ever justifies a repeal we will find some odd reason not to. If I was Amaad he is in UK and they are taking his freedom too. He is such a brainwashed sucker. On one theread the other day he credits Arabs for the discovery of petrol which I think was a byproduct of the production of K1 and J@ kerosene aka Diesel fuel. Last time I checked Diesel was not an arab and the extraction of oil was first done in Penn. An arab might have discoved how to distill but it was for booze a fact I'm sure he would hate. I've got to research that and pound him down when I get time.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 12:07 PM (D3+20)

15 Uh that was supposed to be k1 & k2 kerosene. I'm working too. distracted you know.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 12:08 PM (D3+20)

16 Not it wasn't from amaad, not that I know of. It was some cryptic, corporate looking address that smelled faintly of a saudi oil company. I will research it later, but for now, I'm off to a lake in the mountains.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 23, 2005 12:11 PM (0yYS2)

17 Have a good time. catch you later.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 12:18 PM (D3+20)

18 IM: Your 11:30 AM post was excellent. Business is booming. Many refuse to admit that business in booming right here in the good ole USA.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 23, 2005 05:12 PM (CBNGy)

19 Damn muslim morons,ragheads with nothing better to do.just watch,Mubarak is going to crack down on these spineless woosies in a big way,they will be begging for mercy!!! Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 10:31 AM I did not make this comment. Stop pretending to be me.

Posted by: greg at July 23, 2005 08:49 PM (/+dAV)

20 Greg I pointed that out for you earlier. I saw the email was not yours. How ya doing.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 08:50 PM (D3+20)

21 Sometimes I'm greg, sometimes I'm not. Since this is Saturday, I'll be Vixen the Longhorn Cowgirl down at the Rainbow Cattle Company in Austin. Giddyup cowboys!

Posted by: greg at July 23, 2005 10:06 PM (0yYS2)

22 Sometimes I'm greg, sometimes I'm not. Since this is Saturday, I'll be Vixen the Longhorn Cowgirl down at the Rainbow Cattle Company in Austin. Giddyup cowboys! Posted by greg at July 23, 2005 10:06 PM AGAIN, I DID NOT MAKE THIS POST. MIKE, PLEASE PHLUSH IT. RUSTY, PLEASE BAN THIS SON OF A BITCH.

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 04:17 PM (/+dAV)

23 Damn muslim morons,ragheads with nothing better to do.just watch,Mubarak is going to crack down on these spineless woosies in a big way,they will be begging for mercy!!! Posted by: greg at July 23, 2005 10:31 AM AGAIN, I DID NOT MAKE THIS POST. RUSTY, PLEASE BAN THIS MOTHER FUCKER.

Posted by: greg at July 25, 2005 04:21 PM (/+dAV)

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Go Back To Sleep, Dhimmi

***Note: I moved this down the page because I'm too tired to keep up with developments. Mike, on the other hand, has got it goin on. Go Mike go!

(title hat tip to Aaron)

Nothing to see here, just another isolated incident.

CAIRO, Egypt Â— As many as seven explosions, including at least four car bombs, struck the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik early Saturday, hitting several hotels packed with foreign and Egyptian tourists and killing at least 36 people, witnesses and police said.
Saturday's explosions at 1:15 a.m. shook windows more than five miles away. Smoke and fire rose from Naama Bay, a main strip of beach hotels in the desert city popular with Israeli and European tourists, witnesses said.
At least four car bombs were used in the attacks, said a security official in the operations control room in Cairo monitoring the crisis. One went off in the driveway of the Ghazala Gardens hotel, a 176-room four-star resort on the main strip of hotels in Naama Bay, the official said.

Let's not be quick to judge, this could very well be the work of the CIA. greg will be happy to fill us in on the details, I'm sure.

***Update: Not to offend our English friends, but does anyone else notice the difference in coverage between this isolated incident and yesterday's isolated incident, or the isolated incident 2 weeks ago?

updated Fox website coverage (the channel is running this story as a crawl on the bottom of the screen, with a short mention every half hour)
Sharm el-Sheik, abutting the Red Sea on the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula, is a popular vacation spot for Europeans Â— including Britons Â— and Israelis.

Notice that the resort was popular with Israelis.

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1 I heard that Black HelicoptersÂ™ were seen leaving the area shortly after the blast.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 22, 2005 09:13 PM (0yYS2)

2 Screw You Gimprobulus Guttfishulus, I'm really pissed at all these goddamned bombers, WHOEVER the hell they are. I blew away a gopher who was sneaking around on my property and all I could thing of were the jihadis and the jawa whackjobs like you, Klanrooster (Grunt! Grunt!) Sewermouth "Nuke Kabba" Kimberley and the rest of the clowns. Greg knows about black flag ops and he WILL let you know who did it.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 22, 2005 09:23 PM (ScqM8)

3 DSM: Speaking of black flag why don't you lock yourself in the closet with a can and puncture with pocketknife. There you go now just breathe deep and relax. That's it. Soon everything will be all better.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 10:02 AM (D3+20)

4 So did you blow away the gopher because it was a problem or just to watch it flop? Seems you have more in common with zaqueery than I thought.

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 10:30 AM (D3+20)

5 The bombings in Sharm el sheik are obviously in revenge for Egypt attacking Afghanistan and their role in the massacres being carried out everyday on Iraqi civilians.

Posted by: Brian at July 23, 2005 03:27 PM (n2sxj)

6 An admission from DSM that without greg he is usless as tits on a boar. cool

Posted by: Howie at July 23, 2005 05:15 PM (D3+20)

7 seems to me and many others here that DSM has some sort of a mental condition, as it seems he likes to hurt small animals....isnt that a sign of some who can develop into a criminally insane person???....DSM seems to get his rocks off "hunting" wasp nests and shooting gophers...youre such a mighty hunter DSM....hey,heres a tip, put the barrl in youre mouth before you pull the trigger, you wont have to worru about wasp nests anymore....bonehead

Posted by: THANOS35 at July 23, 2005 08:25 PM (9gFP6)

8 Glad you liked the title.

Posted by: Aaron's cc: at July 24, 2005 01:59 AM (ov6Vw)

9 Wishers of death... beware!

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 02:40 AM (ScqM8)

10 Death to muslim terrorist and their supporters.

Posted by: greyrooster at July 25, 2005 03:00 AM (CBNGy)

11 Klanrooster, your intestines are filled with worms and your breath smells of roadkill. Give it up crackerjack.

Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 25, 2005 04:26 AM (ScqM8)

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