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April 07, 2005

New Video of al Qaeda Offensive Against Abu Ghraib (Images)

Abu Musab al Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq has released a new video of the two day assault on the Abu Ghraib prison. A short version of the video may be downloaded here. The entire video may be downloaded here (see April 6th). Images from the video are posted below.

What is so interesting about the video is it reveals just how ineffective the terrorist organization was at penetrating Abu Ghraib. Abu Ghraib is a sprawling complex, and the terrorist fire at it from a very far distance. It's a wonder that 2 of the 7 suicide bombers were able to get any where near the walls of the prison.

For instance, as far as I can tell, this is as close as the film maker ever got to the prison. You can see the lights of Abu Ghraib in the distance. (Click images to enlarge) more...

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1 They are posting this video, afteir their mission failed miserably? What kind of propaganda is that? lol

Posted by: efuseakay at April 07, 2005 05:17 PM (crRNX)

2 Idiots simply idiots. They must like losing.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:01 PM (CBNGy)

3 Morons--killing their fellow morons.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:04 PM (SENte)

4 Where were these brave warriors during the Sadaam years? Surely they must have had some practice assaulting that vile prison. No?

Posted by: slickdpdx at April 07, 2005 06:17 PM (MjGRu)

5 Perhaps they were motivated to avenge the raping of young boys in Abu Ghraib?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:33 PM (FV4oJ)

6 Collin, they've already stated that their attacks on Abu Graib is to avenge the holding of female prisoners.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:35 PM (8e/V4)

7 "Perhaps they were motivated to avenge the raping of young boys in Abu Ghraib?" Wrong, R2D2. Just another fantasy.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:39 PM (SENte)

8 Why did I know the traitor collin baber was going to make that post. Truth. I knew in advance exactly what that idiot commie was going to say. Stood here and waited for it. This sick little shit is totally predictable.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:41 PM (CBNGy)

9 Dear Greyrooster, At least this person is able to back up his quotes with reality.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:01 PM (FV4oJ)

10 Dear Greyrooster, Are you denying boys were sodomized with lightsticks at Abu Ghraib?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:03 PM (FV4oJ)

11 Collin, Were you ever at abu ghraib? Ever been to a Turkish prison? What's your fetish here?

Posted by: Whiff at April 07, 2005 09:09 PM (O9R4n)

12 Collin, I will grant that. The facts seem to indicate it. However, there is little evidence to suggest that that was a widespread practice. And it's disgusting. However, most of the claims of abuse are much more vague. Like, "I was humiliated when a female saw me naked" or "I was scared by the sound of dogs." Further, such abuse happens every day most prisons in the world. Which is terrible. But we didn't see them attacking Saddam's prisons which were thousands of times worse and where torture, REAL TORTURE, was a matter of policy.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:22 PM (JQjhA)

13 By leaving such heinous acts unpunished, the United States is unwittingly dragging itself down into a sordid quagmire of violence and retribution over there in Iraq.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 09:38 PM (FV4oJ)

14 Collin, Without defending what actually did happen at Abu Graib, there is no evidence of sodomy having occurred.

Posted by: David at April 07, 2005 10:19 PM (8e/V4)

15 Dear David, Come to my blog and you'll see.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 11:15 PM (FV4oJ)

16 Kofi Annan has urged the UN to agree on a universal definition of terrorism...This raises an academic problem: wasn't the centuries-old definition of terrorism available in dictionaries universally accepted? Has not, for the first time, the UN taken over responsibilty of defining a phenomenon? What if not all states agree to incorporate the UN definition in their books? Even if terrorists are bracketed into a definition, won't they remain lawless and engaged in their activities? The UN approach appears to be dealing with punishment - a narrow approach for the big problem.

Posted by: Otocon. at April 08, 2005 12:28 AM (PM/BC)

17 Otocon, we already know what terrorism is, we know what treason is, we know what war crimes really are, we know zionism isn't racism, etc., and we don't need no unelected Third world bureaucrats at the UN to tell us otherwise.

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 08:25 AM (8e/V4)

18 'we already know what terrorism is, we know what treason is, we know what war crimes really are, we know zionism isn't racism, etc., and we don't need no unelected Third world bureaucrats at the UN to tell us otherwise.' We're in a war and because the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. What should they do, blow kisses? We sure do know what war crimes are and we've exempted ourselves from any punitive repercussions.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 09:24 AM (/+dAV)

19 >>>"We're in a war and because the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. What should they do, blow kisses?" "figting back" against all the little Eichmans.

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 09:58 AM (8e/V4)

20 Yup. Little Eichmans. When I was growing up I thought that there was something inherently wrong with German people. They caused 2 world wars after all. But it is becoming obvious that Americans are no better.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:11 AM (/+dAV)

21 >>>"They caused 2 world wars after all. But it is becoming obvious that Americans are no better." Greg, if that's what you think of America and its people, why would you think we'd want to change to please you and your type? It's no better a reason to change than pleasing Al-Qaida is a reason to change. On the contrary, it only serves to confirm our position. Pissing off the right people is usually a good sign we're doing something right.

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 11:45 AM (8e/V4)

22 Sadly, it may take a humiliating defeat to change America. That is what happens to every aggressor in the end. But there may be hope yet. The peace movement in America is way ahead of schedule compared to the peace movement during the Vietnam war. We know we were lied into a war so when the Bushies go after Iran the peaceniks will be out in full force. I attended protests prior to the Iraq invasion. I girl was shot with a rubber bullet in the face in Oakland CA. It's likely there will be another Kent State like incident when we go to war against Iran. That will be the turning point and the people will turn against the government just as they did in Vietnam.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 11:57 AM (/+dAV)

23 >>>"That is what happens to every aggressor in the end." Greg, And if in the end we are not defeated, will you admit that everything you ever believed was wrong? I don't believe we will be defeated, because we are not agressors in the traditional sense of the word. Yes, we do remake the world in our image, but it's a good image, and the people over there like it (the people that count, that is).

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 12:40 PM (8e/V4)

24 I'd ban Greg, but his posts often are so revelatory.....

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 08, 2005 01:02 PM (JQjhA)

25 Please don't ban Greg. He's a great foil, and polite for the most part.

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 01:22 PM (8e/V4)

26 Let's quit pretending that we are acting for the benefit of the world's down trodden. We are acting in our own selfish interests. A recent CIA assesment forcasts that the economies of China and India will be as large as that of the USA in the year 2025. They're already siphoning off "our" oil. We are trying to position are selves so we control resources for which we will be competing with India and China. If you look over the hill, a war with China is inevitable and we are in the process of posturing ourselves for this eventuality. Now if you want to admit to that you might convince me that we are the right track. But your insistance that we are out to help others is just baby talk. Thanks for not banning me Rusty, that's mighty white of you.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 01:39 PM (/+dAV)

27 >>>"Let's quit pretending that we are acting for the benefit of the world's down trodden. We are acting in our own selfish interests." Greg, Of course. But our own self-interests often coincide with the iterests of the downtrodden. Iraq is a perfect example. And that's a good thing, and I celebrate it. You Leftists should too if you really care about "the pooooor".

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 01:55 PM (8e/V4)

28 I'm a liberterian Catholic. Hardly a leftist. This 2 party system is killing us. Both spend us into oblivion. Between the 2 of them our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendment rights are under fire. The American people are being beaten by a "2 man tag team of wrestlers" and with every new presidency we have more and more government intrusion. I'm guessing you're a loyal Republican. We need to get out of debt. Maybe a war with China should come sooner rather than later. Why wait until they''re fully industrialized? And for God's sake why help them industrialize? That's what "multiinnational" coorporations are doing. They have no alliiegance to America. We should tell the Chinese, Japanese and the South Koreans to shove the US debt they hold where the sun don't shine and give the American taxpayers some relief. Then we abolish the Federal Reserve and print our own Fucking money like Kennedy wanted to so we don't have to pay interest on fiat money. It costs the Fed 10 cents to print a $1000 bill and then we pay interest on it. Bulllshit. Americans shouldn't be the chattle of international bankers.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 02:13 PM (/+dAV)

29 >>>"I'm a liberterian Catholic. Hardly a leftist." greg, I'm glad to hear that. That is far better than being a Leftist. But the Federal Reserve in turn repays that interest back to the U.S. Treasury. That simple fact is something the conspiracy theorists conveniently leave out. The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury. The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain. And the purpose of the Fed is primarily to serve as a safeguard against abuse by politicians bent on political gain.

Posted by: Carlos at April 08, 2005 03:21 PM (8e/V4)

30 Collin, One thing is sure: Iraq has been set on the road to democracy. This is going to be a bumpy road with many zig-zags. But, provided theUS-led coalition does not lose its nerve, but stays committed until the new Iraq can defend itself against its domestic and foreign foes, the Iraqi experience could inspire democratic change in other Muslim countries in the Middle East. It would not be easy for Syria to orchestrate another fake election in Lebanon in May. The Khomeinists in Iran would find it hard to present another fixed election in June as a genuine reflection of the popular will. The Egyptians would have a hard time producing another 99.99 per cent majority for President Hosni Mubarak, or his son Gamal, in yet another single-candidate election next year. The Saudis would not be able to indefinitely postpone demands for at least half the seats in the majlis, their parliament, to go to elected members. In Libya Colonel Gaddafi might find it harder to appoint his son as prime minister with a mere acclamation from his henchmen. The Arab despots and their friends in the West make a meal of the cliche that democracy cannot be imposed by force. But what happened in Iraq was not imposing democracy by force. The US-led alliance used force to remove impediments to democracy. The people of Iraq became the co-liberators of their country, first by not opposing the US-led coalition and then by risking their lives to set their nation on a new path in the face of vicious terrorism. It is time to see what is happening in Iraq on its own merits, not in the context of an irrational hatred of the United States and George W.Bush. Like it or not, President Bush has got one thing right: give any nation a chance to choose democracy and it will.

Posted by: Otocon. at April 08, 2005 04:01 PM (PM/BC)

31 "A recent CIA assesment forcasts that the economies of China and India will be as large as that of the USA in the year 2025." Obviously Greg has never read all of those CIA assessments for the Soviet Union! That kind of batting average would maybe get you a job as a bench-warmer on a AA team.

Posted by: Don Miguel at April 08, 2005 05:19 PM (+KixN)

32 Actually, Collin's ravings and willful ignorance not withstanding, many people have been punished for their acts at Abu Ghraib.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 09, 2005 07:07 PM (xauGB)

33 Dear Robin, Have you heard of the killing of a baby in front of his mother in Abu Ghraib prison?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 08:13 AM (fufbw)

34 Collin: Have you heard of the tooth fairy?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 10, 2005 10:02 AM (YTaaE)

35 Collin, that is how you deal with getting caught making up stuff? Dude, you need help.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 10, 2005 04:21 PM (xauGB)

36 Dear Robin, "Al-Furat publishes on the front page a 120-word "exclusive" report citing a Saudi national, a former detainee at Abu Ghurayb Prison, describing the killing of a baby in front of his mother in the prison . ."

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 06:29 PM (FV4oJ)

37 Collin, People who try to cover up the atrocities committed in Saddam's Iraq by emphasizing propaganda stories told by terrorists are in fact complicit with what happens in all prisons run by Saddam-like dictators. You, personally, are aiding and abetting them. I have no doubt you are doing so because you are still being paid with money stolen from executed citizens of Iraq in the same way the Nazi's financed operations after WWII with money stolen from executed jews.

Posted by: Bruce at April 10, 2005 08:20 PM (Bg9ft)

38 Dear Bruce, Is Seymour Hersh complicit in atrocities he reports?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 11:00 PM (FV4oJ)

39 Collin, Yes, he is. He says he lies. I believe him. You believe whatever you want. I'll not change your mind. I'll also not lift a finger to keep the Islamists from cutting your head off to stop that rattling you call speaking. Good luck keeping yourself alive when the Intifada comes to get you because you ain't Muslim. Subsunk

Posted by: Subsunk at April 11, 2005 07:37 PM (adHXR)

40 Dear Subsunk and Bruce, It is my recommendation that both of you seek a licensed mental health professional.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 11, 2005 09:19 PM (FV4oJ)

41 Bruce wins. Some good thinking. But mostly due to a lack of competition.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 10:57 PM (CBNGy)

42 Collin, Looked at your blog what a load of crap. It is obvious that you need to join up and get yourself killed in a prompt manner. Prove that you believe your own bullshit. Yes war is hell, there will never be a war without death and atrocity. That is what war is. the difference is what happens afterward. Soldiers make mistakes. You might not think too clearly either after putting your life on the line every day for a year. You forget that atrocity was part of Sadam's policy not just an occasional mistake made by an angry soldier. Sadam might give awards for such acts while we punish those who step over the line.

Posted by: Howie at April 12, 2005 09:59 AM (D3+20)

43 I was at Abu Ghraib during this last attack. Our soldiers performed superbly, we suffered no deaths and only a few casualties..that says alot with the amount of rockets, RPG's, and small arms fire they threw at us. You should have seen the many body parts that the terrorists left scattered outside the walls of Abu Ghraib.

Posted by: anonymous at April 23, 2005 02:08 PM (A822D)

44 we all should fight terrorism

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Pulitzer Judge (update: NOT) Embedded With North Vietnamese

Think this photo is bad?

I got my ass fact checked!!!

It turns out the photos in question were not taken by Baughman, instead, this is from a book reviewed by Baughman. So, where was the confusion? Google. I did a Google image search and the bulk of photos that came back for 'J. Ross Baughman' were these.

My apologies. One of the advantages this site has that we can try to repair the damage, right here, in the text of the original post. As opposed to, say, footnote on page A2.

But from that review we learn of Baughman's 'nuanced' vision of war and the media's role in it:

It is these pictures of Jane Fonda or Fidel Castro squired around by smiling NVA, or else the captured, wounded and dead ARVN or U.S. troops that will boil the blood of many American viewers. For them, it will still be too soon to see such pictures.
"The trick here is see beyond the propaganda of the pictures into a different culture," writes Pulitzer-Prize-winning photo critic Henry Allen in the foreword.

Right, let's look beyond acts of treason which demoralized our troops.

Given enough time and distance, old warriors can't help but want to know their enemies better. The anger and fear of battle mature into a clear-eyed, grudging respect, no matter which side happened to win that day long ago.

See how nuance works? You mature to respect your enemy.

What Baughman dismisses in this article is the role of media images in demoralizing troops and support for those troops back home.

He suggests, in his review, that the reason the Vietnamese won that war was that they were simply more prepared to persevere.

Indeed.

But why were Americans not willing to persevere? Why were Americans not willing to commit to total war against North Vietnam, as they had in WWII? Why were we not willing to fight the war to win?

Certainly, the images brought to the American public by the media played some part. In WWII the media played the role of cheerleader. Helping to keep morale up both at home and with the troops. From the time of Vietnam forward, however, the media played no such role.

The next time we go to war the American public must realize this simple fact: the American media does not really care if our side wins.

They do not necessarily wish us to lose, they do not necessarily want our soldiers to die, but they also could care less if we win. It seems to me that the greatest sacrifice one can ask of a fellow citizen is to die in war. If the state can legitimately ask a fellow citizen to do this, then certainly it can ask the media to refrain from publishing photos which might demoralize our troops.

Oh, it gets worse. Much worse. It turns out J. Ross Baughman, one of the judges of the Pulitzer also was embedded with the North Vietnamese. He wanted to show, you know, the 'other side of the war'. You know, the side that was busy killing Baughman's friends from back home.

Photo above takes you to a few more images of the Vietnam war as seen through the eyes of an American working with the North Vietnamese in order to humanize their efforts of killing Americans toward their final goal of communist oppression.

On a related note, did you know that as a boy Ho Chi Minh is reported to have a pet dog and was a keen outdoorsman?

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Jawalanche

Here are some things I'm reading right now. It's like The Puppy Blender, only we do in one post what it takes him to do in 20!

-More. Dead. Terrorists.
-Tiny little spy planes. No word from Islamic Army in Iraq on tiny little RPG. (via Blogs of War)
-Jurors picked for trial of Islamist traitor in U.S. military. Texas justice, please.
-First the Pulitzers, and now the Peabodys. Not surprising.
-Art Buchwald. Idito.
-U.N. Corruption. Can you use those two words in the same sentence?
-Government sponsored Enron not getting headlines. *shocked*
-Bill Clinton for SC? *Chortle* Right. (via Jeff)
-Commissar is right on the Schiavo meme.
-Government acting like the mafia. Or, why Rusty is a domestic libertarian.
-Gun meet criminal. Nice.
-Sheriff gets tasered on live TV. Beavis moment.
-Another Terri Schiavo?
-La Shawn on MSNBC, while Joyner tells me he's been cancelled. I'm available!
-Jenna Bush bumping and grinding. Please send video!
-Star Wars nerds line up in front of wrong theatre. This explains why the light posting.......
-Domines to charge for delievery? Say it isn't so! (I was a driver for Dominos in college)
-Glenn Reynolds interviews John from Wuzzadem. (via Itsapundit)
-Censorship of the bad kind. Dumbass.
-Blogger smackdown! or troll smackdown. I just love a good fight.
-Support single mothers, visit a strip club. (via Beth)
-Welcome to the strange and growing superpower that is mu.nu.
-Hot. Young. Coeds. I've no idea what Stotch means.
-You live in a zoo....photos.
-Excuse me while I whip this out. Dumbasses.
-EU's "Little USSR", France. Heh.
-Ace is back. Long live Ace.

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Terrorists Plan May 9th Attack in Russia

Chad has the report. Let me just remind our readers that my position on Russia is clear. Despite the fact that Russia has endlessly meddled in the affairs of its proximate neighbors, they are our natural ally in the GWOT in the region.

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1 I agree. Since they are not muslim and they have many muslim neighbors they will naturally be our partners in the GWOT. Not because they cheer for America but because it's in their best interest. Putin is still a little shit head.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 11:47 AM (CBNGy)

2 Dog gone it Greyroster. How do you get in so fast? I agree with all you said. How about letting me get a word in first once? You are not my wife you know!

Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 07, 2005 12:05 PM (GQcHQ)

3 Ha, it's good to see that all of us are getting along. I'm starting to feel a real sense of community among the Jawa readers.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 03:34 PM (JQjhA)

4 Rusty: Rod Stanton and the Greyrooster not getting along? Do you read your own blog? I got his back. Semper Fi til I die. Rod its raining and nothing good on television. Wife has me on a diet so can't go eat crawfish and drink beer with the boys. No will power when it comes to beer and crawfish. So what else to do.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:21 PM (CBNGy)

5 Rusty, Yep, I'm with you on this one. Though they make it hard to love them as much as you want to, when push comes to shove - we have to stand with them. Their forces you run into now and then are solid professionals. Glad they are on our side.....most of the time. Anyway, they usually bring their own booze, so what's not to like?

Posted by: CDR Salamander at April 07, 2005 09:16 PM (MrU41)

6 Dude, plus, have you ever seen Russian chicks? Hubba-hubba.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:26 PM (JQjhA)

7 How can Russian chicks look so good and the men so yuk. I think and big hooters gives them a certain glow. Who cares who wins. I watch women tennis solely for the Russian girls. I play tennis. Anna pleas play with me.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:09 PM (CBNGy)

8 Lol you guys sound like real losers,hahahah. Fucking geeks ,u guys r defenitly americans,hahaha such a bunch of ugly losers,lol.

Posted by: Russian guy!! at May 09, 2005 06:19 PM (AYnNm)

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Mmmm, Pie

Knowing that David Horowitz had a pie thrown at him by the tolerant Left is one thing. But ask the important questions! What kind of pie was it? Mmmmm, boysenberry pie.............

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1 More "tolerance" and "diversity" at our institutions of higher indoctrination. They should be caned.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 11:16 AM (8e/V4)

2 Gotta go with Kershaw pie, myself... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 07, 2005 11:19 AM (Qjm7D)

3 Ah! The left at its best. The right are the violent ones. Ya Right! Any blackberry pies?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 11:50 AM (CBNGy)

4 Was it from the same bakery that made the ones Ann Coulter got while speaking against JFK last Oct? May be a conspiracy behind this. Someone else got one last week, forget who.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 07, 2005 12:10 PM (GQcHQ)

5 That would be Bill Krystol. Not to mention the shaving creme with Pat Buchanan. Is this what happens when you ban KEGS from college campuses? "Liberal tolerance. CATCH IT."

Posted by: Red at April 07, 2005 01:24 PM (gU2pl)

6 Too bad it wasn't big ole steaming shit pie. Horowitz is a filthy likudnik Zionazi. I don't know why the SOB just doesn't move to Israel. Maybe he can't swim.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 01:46 PM (/+dAV)

7 Greg, the way you people use 'Likud' someone might think it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 02:10 PM (8e/V4)

8 It is a bad thing. Can you imagine trying to negotiate with a whole country of Juice? There's no chance for peace with the Likudniks.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:24 PM (/+dAV)

9 Pat Buchanan got salad dressing. (More appropriate for Paul Newwman.)

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 02:26 PM (x+5JB)

10 >>>"There's no chance for peace with the Likudniks." Greg, You're wrong. Only Nixon could go to China, and only a Likudnik will negotiate a settlement. Mark my words and don't ever forget, because the peace treaty WILL be signed by a LIKUDNIK.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 02:28 PM (8e/V4)

11 I hope you're right but I doubt it. Only a traitor to the Palestinians would except the shity offer likely to come from the Likudniks. Now Rabin was an honest peace broker. Of course he got shot for it.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:32 PM (/+dAV)

12 The only chance the palestinians have is to keep up the bombing until these old Jew farts like Sharon die from eating too many babies.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:36 PM (/+dAV)

13 >>>"Only a traitor to the Palestinians would except the shity offer likely to come from the Likudniks." Which pretty much explains why the paleostinians won't sign a peace treaty. Only a "traitor" will sign a treaty with Israel. You said more than you intended to, Greg. But I agree with you entirely, it's the paleos who won't sign lest they be accused of treason. It's why Arafat didn't sign, and it's why the paleos won't let Abbas sign.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 03:24 PM (8e/V4)

14 I wonder what kind of pie they eat in Finland?

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:28 PM (NzgK/)

15 No way should Abbas sign. Much of the west bank is now off the table as is the idea of east jerusalem as a capitol. Despite Bush's whisper of a road map, the Juice have been building new settlements as quickly as they can. If America really wanted peace in the middle east they'd invade Israel and enforce a peace once and for all. But that's not possible since Jewish penetrance into the Pentagon runs too deep. If we ever attacked them their nukes would work but our woudn't.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 03:35 PM (/+dAV)

16 "What kind of pie was it?" Chocolate cream pie.

Posted by: Darth Apathy at April 07, 2005 03:39 PM (y+kpp)

17 Greg, if we invaded and killed all the paleos that would pretty much solve the problem too.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 03:39 PM (8e/V4)

18 Sounds like a good plan. I say we go for it and stop this nonsense once and for all. Count me in. In fact I'll even join the friggin' army for that fight if they'll take me with my flat feet.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 03:43 PM (/+dAV)

19 Brad: Yak pie?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 03:49 PM (x+5JB)

20 Actually it's all kinds of pie. As you know, Pie was invented in Finland by Miko Mannerheim(Yes ,Great,Great,Great,Great, Grandfather of the man himself), in 1329.

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:55 PM (NzgK/)

21 Brad: You are a scholar and a gentleman.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:10 PM (x+5JB)

22 I see the good Catholic Greg is at it with the Jew thing again. Down here in South Mississippi we don't attack Israel. We just beat up the local ones. But we don't support the paleos. Need a KKK application? Only $49.95. For the background check. Refundable on payment of membership fee. Then you can come down and make hate the Jews speeches and have a live audience. If, you by the beer.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 06:37 PM (CBNGy)

23 Dear Greyrooster, Do you mean Picayune?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:08 PM (FV4oJ)

24 Mmmmmmm, chocolate pie......thanks Darth!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:27 PM (JQjhA)

25 Rooster, I''m going to pass on your very generous offer to sponsor my membership in the Klan. As a Catholic I don't think I qualify. Dressing up like it was Halloween every night sounds like fun though. Do you wear high heals? I'm thinking about joining the local militia though. When the government starts rounding up dissenters and relocating them to FEMA prison camps there will be a fight. I hope they send me to the one in Bastrop County Texas. I like the climate here.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 09:45 AM (/+dAV)

26 Its a shame to hear, Greg, that the only reason you think you don't qualify for the KKK is that you are catholic.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 09, 2005 07:09 PM (xauGB)

27 Robin wins:

Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:31 AM (CBNGy)

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Super Hot Protest Babes Watch (Give 'til it hurts)

I implored, no begged, Michael Totten to snap some super-hot-protester babe photos while raising money for democracy in Lebanon.

You know, you've got to have your priorities.

He tells me via e-mail that he's working on it. Keep. Fingers. Crossed.

In the meantime why not give 'til it hurts to The Spirit of America?

Expect any of the good photos to be posted at Totten's place.

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1 YES - FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH! The Mad Mullahs of Iran Are Next . . . Dr. Shackleford, I'm with you. We need babes to spur us red blooded males on to crush the enemy and these repressive regimes of Evil that aid them in the GWOT. I suggested using Iranian-Armericans women of fame and success to demonstrate our society does not treat women as chattel and or hold them back in the 12th Century. I even suggested using Catherine Bell - The JAG Babe. She speaks fluent Farsi. Dr. Michael Ledeen took strong exception with this idea. He said the Iranian women already know what they want. They don't need any role models from us. My thought was we need to mobilize all of our resources to win the GWOT. This includes bringing the marketing "gurus" online. After all this is a war of ideology, religion, and culture. We have been short on message - the ideology of Islamofascisim is a failed relic of the 12th Century that has no place in our time. These repressive regimes use this ideology of hate and evil to control and subjugate the people. We need to bring the atrocities that Islamic women have suffered under these male dominated theocratic hegemonies to the world's attention. The MSM is failing to cover these stories. The regime of the Mad Mullahs of Iran will implode under the light of free world. The Internet and the Blogos now have the power to do this independently of the MSM. There are two projects now underway worthy of our funds and support. They are the Lebanese Liberation Project by the Spirit of America as you mentioned and Regime Change Iran by Dr. Zin. Perhaps we could appeal to Ms. Bell to assist in domestic fundraising efforts for these projects. I hear her FHM appearances adorn many a dusty hut in Iraq. PICS - Here, Here, Here, and Here For further info go HERE and follow the links.

Posted by: Ron Wright at April 07, 2005 05:17 PM (5+TmF)

2 OH SO SORRY - DEAD PHOTO LINKS FIXED r. Shackleford, Sorry to disappoint but the 1st and 4th photo link were DOA. Here's another try for those in a panic. Your content screener was balking on the links. Photo 1 and Photo 4

Posted by: Ron Wright at April 07, 2005 05:31 PM (5+TmF)

3 "the ideology of Islamofascisim is a failed relic of the 12th Century that has no place in our time." Or ANY form of Islam, in ANY time. Ron: Have your Holy Water ready for anwar....

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:16 PM (SENte)

4 Bourbon the more you talk the stronger I think of you as an ignorant racist bastard.

Posted by: Anwar at April 07, 2005 08:53 PM (prIwV)

5 Anwar, Islam is not a 'race'.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 09:28 PM (JQjhA)

6 Would that be Charlie Sheen in the April 6th-parts picture?

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:35 AM (cWMi4)

7 Rusty: Don't even try to reason with "666." The email address alone tells us all something about what a holy religion Islam is. Or are those three numbers just a coincidence???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 12:04 PM (x+5JB)

8 Sigh.. What can i say? U c my email adress that I made in sixth grade and u jump on it as if it means something. Pathetic bullshit. Come up with something a little better.

Posted by: Anwar at April 09, 2005 12:24 PM (bItO/)

9 Anwar: 6th grade? And have you made it to 7th???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 09, 2005 05:10 PM (YTaaE)

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Illegal Alien Teenage Girls' Suicide Bomb Plot in NY City

Perhaps they've been watching too many Prince videos? Via the Blogfather Charles Johnson this story:

Two 16-year-old girls from New York City have been arrested on immigration charges after federal authorities said they planned to become suicide bombers, according to a published report.
The teenagers were arrested March 24 and were being held in a detention center in Leesport, Pa., The New York Times reported Thursday, citing a government document provided by a federal agent.
According to the document, the FBI found that the girls posed "an imminent threat to the security of the United States based upon evidence that they plan to be suicide bombers," the Times said.

I might just have to rethink my position on The Minuteman Project...

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Oh, THAT Biased Media

Click photo above. Related. More. And again.

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April 06, 2005

Editor and Publisher Apologizes for Terrorist Embeds *shock*

Editor and Publisher ought to be renamed, Apologist and Collaborater. Hey, and next time you mention my blog why not drop a link for all that is sacred and holy! You'd think your site wasn't html enabled......

And, as if on cue, you organize your story in such a way as to 1) set up claims of bias in the Pulitzer, in this case we are not talking about partisan bias but anti-American bias--a serious accusation 2) then refute those claims. Nice job.

Does the entire Associated Press corp pay you to kiss their asses or does your tongue just naturally like the brown eye?

And if the Pulitzer really shows war 'as it is', which is a terribly stupid claim given the limitations of space in any publication which inevitably leads to certain photos being picked which tell certain parts of the story and leaving out other photos which tell other parts of the war story, then why were not images of American victories shown or that of Americans happily getting along with children in the street? Or is that part of the war 'as it is' not worthy of the lauds of fellow journalists?

Our objections are not about the war photojournalists and the brave work they do. It is with the hiring of stringers such as Bilal Hussein who is comfortable enough with Abu Musab al Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq or Sheik Abdullah al-Janabi's Mujahidin Shura Council of Fallujah that he can get up close and personal for some nice staged photos.

Our other objection is to the photos selected as worthy of the Pulitzer. Is the Associated Press an American organization or not? Cause, I was kind of under the impression that America was sort of in this little thing called a SHOOTING WAR!

Ernie Pyle is rolling over in his grave, right about now. I wonder if he ever got that up close and personal interview with the Waffen SS he always wanted to do? You know, to show their side of the story. Cause, you know, they had families too. And kids. And flower gardens. And kitties......

Please see these posts for clarification:
The Pulitzer and Terrorist Embeds
Pulitzer Prize Given to Terrorists

Thanks to TR at Exposing the Left for e-mailing me the article.

PS-Bunch, you're an idiot.

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1 Journalists are there to capture imagery and interview. How they get it is their prerogative.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:25 PM (FV4oJ)

2 A completely and outrageously false statement Collin. Being an accessory to a terrorist attack is not merely illegitimate - its a crime.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 06, 2005 07:16 PM (xauGB)

3 Me no like bad people too.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 08:05 PM (EQbuu)

4 Dear Beth and Robin, It is m heartfelt desire to see Mr. Zarqawi stand trial and be convicted. Photos are evidence that will be used in his upcoming trial. He must receive the maximum penalty for his heinous acts.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 09:56 PM (FV4oJ)

5 Thank you Beth. Well and truly said. I'm beginning to believe this idiot is a paid commie.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 11:39 PM (CBNGy)

6 Dear Greyrooster, Are you a paid communist?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 11:53 PM (FV4oJ)

7 Those are unmodified photos and there's no changing that. Fact, though, is that the media, most of it, is a large organization of whores, and a somewhat effective means for Insurgents to demoralize their enemy = US. The Chinese, now those guys are fucking smart as shit, because they've got the State-Controlled media, so when they go after Taiwan (or, Godforbid, get into WWIII with us) they won't have their press stabbing them in the back. Now, I'm not saying it should be unconstitutional for the press to demoralize the whole effort, because it isn't. I'm just saying some people are smarter than us. They just might even kick our ass ultimately that way, even if we do win all the battles. What fun.

Posted by: JG22 at April 07, 2005 02:13 AM (1mRPJ)

8 "It is m heartfelt desire to see Mr. Zarqawi stand trial and be convicted." This is the liberal view of the WOT, that it is a law enforcement problem. It's a war! It is my heartfelt desire to see "Mr." Zarqawi riddled with bullets.

Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 07:53 AM (SHPL6)

9 Beth & Nobody Important---My sentiments exactly

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 08:17 AM (JQjhA)

10 One could argue the reporters who are "embedded with the enemy" are doing a service to America. The photographs they take of the enemy in action provide invaluable information for American intelligence agents to analyze - methodology, numbers, weaponry, possible location etc. My guess is that American generals consider such photos a windfall rather than a nusance. If I were an insurgent I would not want my picture taken.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 09:07 AM (/+dAV)

11 You might argue that Greg. That would require, though, a sense of nationalism in the reporters in question. Further, it would require that the reporters saw our side of the conflict as 'the good guys'. As long as reporters see themselves as neutral observers (which they are not) they will continue to spread terrorist propaganda. These reporters have in the past and continue to refuse to cooperate with the coalition in finding the enemies of the U.S.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 07, 2005 10:46 AM (JQjhA)

12 Collin: "Are you a paid communist?" What did you mean by that? Just curious.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 10:49 AM (8e/V4)

13 "As long as reporters see themselves as neutral observers (which they are not) they will continue to spread terrorist propaganda." maybe they could just host it on their websites.

Posted by: actus at April 07, 2005 11:22 AM (Eg4/w)

14 I'm with nobody important. Zarqawi's trial should/must be held in the field by those who find him. This will avoid the beheading of innocents while Zarqawi's dogs are attempting to trade for him.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:07 PM (CBNGy)

15 We are supposedly in a war. But when the enemy fights back they're called terrorists. Doesn't make much sense to me. What should the enemy do, hurl kisses. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:18 PM (/+dAV)

16 One man's "evil, hegemonic empire" is another man's greatest country in the world, defender of human rights and liberty, a shining beacon of hope to mankind, a liberator of enslaved millions. Which man are you?

Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 04:35 PM (SHPL6)

17 Whose freedom is Zarqawi fighting for? Whose freedom is Bin Laden fighting for? Whose freedom was Saddam, Uday and Qusay fighting for?

Posted by: nobody important at April 07, 2005 04:37 PM (SHPL6)

18 Let's say you hated our president. Imagine that John Kerry won the election. And then we are attacked with foreign troops on our land. Wouldn't you fight the invaders even though you hated the president? Of course you would.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 04:46 PM (/+dAV)

19 >>>"Wouldn't you fight the invaders even though you hated the president? Of course you would." Of course I would not. Not if these invaders liberated us from some dictator and then allowed democracy to flourish and supported it. In that case, I would help them stabilize my country, and I would fight the terrorists posing as patriots. That way the liberators could leave earlier.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:25 PM (8e/V4)

20 Dear Carlos, Greyrooster's statement at 11:39 is strange, just like the quotes he keeps attributing to me. He still hasn't provided the Fallujah quote URL that we both asked for.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:29 PM (FV4oJ)

21 For the record Collin, I welcome dissenters like you on this blog. How else am I going to turn you into a rightwinger.

Posted by: Carlos at April 07, 2005 06:50 PM (8e/V4)

22 Dear Carlos, Thank you.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 08:15 PM (FV4oJ)

23 "That way the liberators could leave earlier." We've never left a country we've invaded except for the odd cases of Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia where we got an ass woopin'. When "liberators" stay for ever they are "occupiers". We're never going to leave Iraq. We're building permanent bases there so we can use it as a launch point to invade other muslim countries.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 08:59 AM (/+dAV)

24 "You might argue that Greg. That would require, though, a sense of nationalism in the reporters in question. " Rusty, There's no requirement for nationalism. We receive and make use of intelligence from foreign agents who have no nationalistic feelings toward America. When there is an opportunity to get important intelligence it doesn't matter if it''s from the bad guys or the good guys.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 09:05 AM (/+dAV)

25 Greg, I have to disagree with you to a point. Any citizen of an invaded country does have the right to take up arms in protest. As long as they target our troops, and any other official military target is okay. That is guerilla warfare. But to go out and capture civilian contracts and reporters, that is terrorism. That is what Zarqawi is doing. ""But I am shock that most of you would want Zarqawi to be outright killed. If that happen, all the national networks and state and federal judges could go bankrupt. They would not get to show 500 days of trails and appeals. This does not even mention the 3 different made for TV movies we would not have. Shame on you all.""

Posted by: Butch at April 08, 2005 03:27 PM (Gqhi9)

26 Butch " I have to disagree with you to a point. Any citizen of an invaded country does have the right to take up arms in protest. As long as they target our troops, and any other official military target is okay." I don't know Butch. Take the Palestinians. They're just too weak to go after the military targets. You''ve seen the footage - throwing stones at a TANK, come on. They really haven't many options. People talk about fighting fair - no scratching, no biting or pulling hair. But, when the victim is much weaker than their oppressor what options do they have? Should a rape victim be scorned for poking her rapist in the eye? Of course not, she's acting with virtue. And when the weak fight back it's really a thing of beauty.. I makes me proud to be a human knowing that the human spirit is so resilient.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 03:43 PM (/+dAV)

27 Greg, It makes no different how strong or weak you are. It depends on the target you select. A bunch of rag heads can easily grab a lone soldier. With as many AK47Â’s the Middle East has, I canÂ’t believe anyone is unarm over there. To me, when a group targets military or government targets, that group is saying we hate your policies. But when they start targeting civilians, the group is then saying we hate your people. It is okay for a group to hate a policy; policies can change. Hating a group of people is a different matter. Every military is suppose to be trained to protect themself. Civilians do not always have that luxury.

Posted by: Butch at April 08, 2005 04:00 PM (Gqhi9)

28 "Greg, It makes no different how strong or weak you are. It depends on the target you select" Butch, by your logic a rape victim should just lay there and "enjoy" it if she can't fight back without being a dirty fighter. You go after the targets that are available. And when you're the weaker party there are limitations to what you can hit.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 04:18 PM (/+dAV)

29 How many innocents have the insurgents killed? Estimates of innocent Iraqis killed by Americans range from 20,000 to 150,000. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Isn't America also guilty of "terrorism"?

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 04:26 PM (/+dAV)

30 Greg, For one thing, there is no real comparison between rape and what I call guerilla warfare. Rape is a crime and the victim should use ever means possible to kill the sicko trying to do it. What I am saying is that terrorism is a crime because they are intentionally attacking civilian targets. Guerilla warfare is where you have a small outmatch group that still attacks an occupying force. They attack legitimate targets that they feel the can harm and get away. Also the difference between the US troops killing civilians and the terrorist, is that we were not aiming for the civilians. These were unfortunate individuals that were in the wrong place.

Posted by: Butch at April 08, 2005 05:00 PM (Gqhi9)

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Long Live Kurdistan!

There should be an independent Kurdish state. The blood, sweat, and tears of our Northern Iraqi allies have earned them this right. But if we cannot have a Kurdish state at this time, I guess the Presidency of Iraqi will do. For now.

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1 There probably will be a Kurdish state before long and a Sunni state and a Shia state too. This thing is going to degenerate into a civil war and a war between the Kurds and the Turks as soon as we leave.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 03:41 PM (/+dAV)

2 Possibly.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 03:43 PM (JQjhA)

3 Or, maybe not.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 03:44 PM (JQjhA)

4 Would that be good or bad?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 04:46 PM (CBNGy)

5 "Rusty, I agree with you 100% - the Kurds have shown they're far better able to govern themselves than any others in the region besides Israel (and to an extent, Turkey)." Turkey has certainly been able to govern Kurds.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 08:06 PM (EQbuu)

6 One must be careful in playing with nationalist fire in the Mideast.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 09:58 PM (FV4oJ)

7 Actus: Do you agree with the methods used by the Turks to govern the Kurds? Armenians and Kurds will always yearn to govern themselves. Always be a problem for Turkey and Iraq. Seems like if Turkey made them a self ruling state the problem would be solved. Plus gaining an Ally.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 11:50 PM (CBNGy)

8 The Kurd problem is pretty much the same as if a native-american country would be established somewhere in... let's say Minnesota. They have not had a country of their own for hundreds of years, and now that they try to get one, the ones who have had a country continuously for hundreds and hundreds of years naturally don't want to give land to a minority, just because they're different.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 04:17 AM (cWMi4)

9 Somehow that last , changes the meaning of the sentence... It was meant as it would sound without the , between sentences.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 05:24 AM (cWMi4)

10 A FINN: Ignorance showing here. You obviously don't know a thing about Indian Lands, Reservations, special privileges on Indian land. Indian self government, Indian courts, police, on and on and on. I recommend looking at a map of self governing Indian Lands. Millions of acres are owned by, controlled by, governed, and run by Indians. Secondly, the Kurds are the majority where they live in areas of Turkey and Iraqi. Are Indians the majority in Minnesota? I thought Finland thawed out by this time of year. Guess not.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 07:46 AM (CBNGy)

11 In the Reservates, the Indians are a majority, and having land they can govern themselves is not same as having a country of ones own. (Or if it is, we've been an independent country for over 5000 years instead of about 90) Also, the Kurds are not a majority, they are a large minority concentrated on a particular area, like the reservated Indians. They are only big in that area because they were chased out of all other areas of the country.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 09:21 AM (lGolT)

12 And I am still feeling quite frozen after the winter, this year the cold came quite late and there was not much snow, only about 5 feet, so the winter stayed equally cold most of the time.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 09:24 AM (lGolT)

13 Independent country for over 5000 years instead of about 90? AFINN: As we told you before if you're going to use drugs, you must share. Doesn't matter why they are the majority, but in areas of Iraq and Turkey they are the vast majority. Kurds do not have the autonomy the Americans Indians have. The American Indians have lands that they own and control with their own laws and elected officials. Your comparison isn't realistic. The Kurds have nothing to call their own and they have no desire to be Iraqis or Turks. Kurdistan is like America's Puerto Rico. The difference is they keep voting to stay as part of America. Most would be more than happy if they formed their own government and went their own way.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:23 PM (CBNGy)

14 Perhaps the Kurd situation will change now, that the president of Iraq IS a Kurd.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 01:28 PM (lGolT)

15 Being the president of Iraq is not worth much. It's an honorary title. The prime minister has the real power - a Shia.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:00 PM (/+dAV)

16 You have an army in there, make them change laws and equalize the power between the prime minister and the president.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:53 PM (lGolT)

17 Finn: I think we should send you in there to straighten things out.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 03:55 PM (x+5JB)

18 Well spoken. Why doesn't Finland take charge and do it. Ha, Ha.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:18 PM (CBNGy)

19 After the two world wars, Finland was concidered a threat to world peace, and the ones on the west side decided, that Finnish army is only allowed to leave the country, unless UN or EU gives them permission. We are also forbidden from possessing WoMDs, since we used spinach gas against Russians in the Winter War.(They started it, so we had every right to do that...)

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:11 AM (cWMi4)

20 when, not unless... And that's why we actively participate in UN, and some NATO also,peace keeping mission.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:18 AM (cWMi4)

21 and I just realized sinappi is mustard, not spinach...

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:18 AM (cWMi4)

22 So the whole country is grounded, because it beat up the bigger kids in the neighbourhood.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:50 AM (cWMi4)

23 So unfair. Do that in real-life, and other kids look up to you.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:52 AM (cWMi4)

24 Since I have been using public computers for this "hobby" of mine, people living near me apparently have taken interest in these, and acknowledge my identity. Therefore I might face getting sued for slander, blasphemy or bigotry, not to mention getting my computer confiscated and an evil eye cast upon me for causing trouble. (My mental health might also be questioned publicly by others than greyrooster) Also, whatever I've written here, most likely insults severely some people that have an effect of some sort in my everyday life. And because of that I say goodbye, forever. This visit of mine awoke way too much attention back home. I shall not meddle in other peoples business on this site. So I apologize to who ever insulted by my writings or comments that came because of them and hereby promise not to participate in activities on this site.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 08:33 AM (lGolT)

25 I would appreciate it, if my comments other than the one above would be taken off the site to minimize the effect, but it is not absolutely necessary.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 08:35 AM (lGolT)

26 Wow, Wonder what happened.

Posted by: Brad at April 08, 2005 09:37 AM (6krEN)

27 A Finn probably was overwhelmed by all the love emanating from this site. I think he became teary eyed and left for good.

Posted by: greg at April 08, 2005 09:59 AM (/+dAV)

28 I think his parents sent him to his room.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 12:15 PM (x+5JB)

29 Shame i was starting to like him

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 01:36 PM (F1nba)

30 Another example of Free Speech!

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 01:38 PM (F1nba)

31 Oops didnt know he was a kid ah well he handled himself well for a youngster YBP Are u psychic

I didnt even notice!

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 02:56 PM (F1nba)

32 Sparky: Maybe his parents will let the lad back on the computer if he's good and limits his posting to less than a hundred a day. As i said, the kid's got spunk.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 02:59 PM (x+5JB)

33 "LImits his posts to less than 100 a day" LMAO He wAS a busy boy wasnt he!

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 03:23 PM (F1nba)

34 Like the sorceror's apprentice!

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 04:01 PM (x+5JB)

35 AFINN: You must come back. The liberals will think we ran you off. The equivalent of being a sissy.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:23 AM (CBNGy)

36 Seriously, could you take it all off? I'm getting LAW SUES here. If my stuff is still here when I've turned 18, I'll have to make a public apology to pretty much every Finn insulted by this, and do community service. (Since there is no friggin way I'm PAYING anything for what I've written)

Posted by: A Finn at April 10, 2005 11:24 AM (lGolT)

37 A FINN LOL Brilliant need help with that fine?

Posted by: sparky at April 10, 2005 12:36 PM (F1nba)

38 Well fine, I can't get sued for this... Finns just surf the net very much and I don't want to start arguing about my opinions on this site in real life with people I know.

Posted by: A Finn at April 10, 2005 01:17 PM (lGolT)

39 Weeeeell anyways... see ya.

Posted by: A Finn at April 10, 2005 01:41 PM (lGolT)

40 Checking archive forums I found that greyrooster didn't understand that by saying Finland won the world championships in football the first time it took part in them, I did mean American Football, not soccer.

Posted by: A Finn at April 11, 2005 05:05 AM (cWMi4)

41 And by world championship, I don't mean they won the World Bowl, since it was before that one existed, in an actual world championship.

Posted by: A Finn at April 11, 2005 05:10 AM (cWMi4)

42 I do really agree with you that if America had to abandon (Iraq/Kurdistan) it would be disastrous for us and for Iraqis, but I am afraid that was not my suggestion, and I do agree with you that leaving Iraq would not solve the problem. Let me tell you first that I as a kurd was pro-war and do still support the war even it gets worse. THEREFORE I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THE WORLD HELPS US TO DECIDE OUR FATE! But the reason why I and million of my fellow kurdistanian are not happy is due to the way {usa, uk, france, Russia, germany, japan, Pakistan, turk, arab, Irannian, etc} dealing with the Kurdish issue in the middle east! Yes! It is really naive and sad that the entire world (above mentioned nations and countries) all say the same when it comes to Kurdistan! GOD SAKE! FOR HOW LONG, THE NATION OF KURD WOULD HAVE TO BLEED IN ORDER TO APPEASE TURKEY AND ARABS! PLEASE IT IS A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION: WHY THE ENTIRE WORLD ASK ONLY KURDS TO COMPROMISE? WHAT ABOUT TURKEY, IRAN AND ARAB! DON`T THEY NEED TO? Or Is it all about OIL AND INTEREST? Well you know the answer, dont you? It is indeed all about oil and interest. But Kurds have oil in kirkuk as well, Oh! Yes, they have. So why everybody says {Kurds cannot benefit from their Owen national wealth, Kurds cannot have kirkuk and Kurds cannot have independence}? Believe me it should be France and UK therefore, to push for an independent Kurdish state more than any other government, as a beginning to repair the destruction and the damage they have left behind since 1920 when Iraq was first manufactured. Kurds are the only ones who do not need American support, troops or guidance. At the same time they are the only ones willing and able to immediately provide Help and support in clearing the mess.they can contribute more than the Britain and the remnants of the coalition. So if washimgton redefines its political objective and breaks up the country into tow or three states .it would cut losses in the south and not destroy all the chances for success anywhere else in the country.the shi`ites might even think more favourably Of the USA. The shi`ites are likely to climb into bed with Iran anyway, with or without American attempts to stop them. This would be a loss to the usa but a rump shi`ites state aligned with iran would not shift the regional balance significantly, specially with a flourishing Kurdish state in the north also on the Irans border but pro American. hiwa mahmmud leeds/united kingdom

Posted by: hiwa at August 10, 2005 12:55 PM (9OED/)

43 as a kurd from iraqi part kurdistan i strongly believe that the only way out of this hell is partition,i mean to split iraq into three or two entities . regardless what USA and UK wanted in the first place it would be impossible to keep iraq united . in fact it would be a nightmare for kurds having rulled themselve for almost 15 years to ask them now to join iraq again. as a kurd i would like to advice you and any other people who might be interested in iraq`s future to have a better look at the situation in iraq right now. although mr Talabany and Barzany pretending to the world that they have no intention to declare independent kurdistan but i am afraid that is what every single kurd wants to have sooner rather than latter ! Mr.Talabany and Barzany might hide this intention right now because that is the role they have been given by american! but i am afraid tomorrow there will be a real kurdish leader who will shout very loudly that kurds want independent kurdistan right now .. thank you very much .

Posted by: hiwa at August 10, 2005 01:01 PM (9OED/)

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Lap Dances Not Protected by First Amendment

When lap dances are outlawed, only outlaws will do lap dances. Appeals court upholds ban on lap dances. Via Interested Particpant who has more. I blame Bush for this creeping fascism......

UPDATE: Related. Strippers arrested for not wearing pasties. more...

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1 "I blame Bush for this creeping fascism......" Do you mean CHIMP Bush?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 03:30 PM (MVl0c)

2 Having Bush and lap dance in the same post assures that you'll get some interesting visitors from Google searches.

Posted by: Mike at April 06, 2005 04:04 PM (+7VNs)

3 Hi...I googled "Bush" and "Lap dances" and found this site. Where are the naked photos of Barbara Bush?

Posted by: Liberal Larry at April 06, 2005 04:24 PM (7ldvV)

4 Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 04:32 PM (JQjhA)

5 A naked Barbara Bush senior. Now that's an ugly image. You've got to hand it to GHW Bush for sticking with her after she went to hell. I guess as a politician he didn't have much choice.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 05:01 PM (/+dAV)

6 This law will create major problems for law enforcement. In Palo Alto some years ago, the local paper reported the bust of a lap dancing bar. About 250 policemen had gone in as undercover agents to collect the evidence...

Posted by: gandalf at April 06, 2005 05:19 PM (P/kBa)

7 Prostitution and sex services should be taken into government observation and control, so it wouldn't be a risky business to make a living in. It would also limit the spreading of AIDS and prostitutes sneaking into the country. How many people do you think you'd need to make your areas' senators speak for this kind of change?

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 05:33 AM (cWMi4)

8 A lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying......C'mon, sing along. You all know the words.

Posted by: REMF at April 07, 2005 10:51 AM (aLiCo)

9 A few years back,I got a lap dance at the Deja Vu club in Kuusamo. You gotta pay these gals by the minute. Shit,It took her 15 minutes to get her parka,sweater and long underwear off. I lost all my Markkas on one dance and had to walk out into the frozen night. Those Finns!! Harsh!!!!

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 11:51 AM (6krEN)

10 Haha... she might've called you a parka, that would be poor (as in pitiful, not out of money) bastard, and if she spoke very much on the "s", she was a Russian ho, and you got fooled and your money was completely wasted.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 01:27 PM (lGolT)

11 Young man, your spending way too much time on your new computer. Get out of your room and go out and chase some Reindeeer or make a snowman!

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 01:43 PM (NzgK/)

12 Actually, in here it's quite late in here and the next thing, after checking out these things, I'm going to do, is go sleep. Usually I spend time at a computer if I got empty hours at the lukio, or while watching TV and internetexploring at the same time before I sleep.(and the closest reindeers are a 2-hour drive away, and the snow has mostly melted already)

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:58 PM (lGolT)

13 Actually, it's quite late in here and the next thing, after checking out these things, I'm going to do, is go sleep. Usually I spend time at a computer if I got empty hours at the lukio, or while watching TV and internetexploring at the same time before I sleep.(and the closest reindeers are a 2-hour drive away, and the snow has mostly melted already)

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:59 PM (lGolT)

14 Oops... how did that happen?

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 03:00 PM (lGolT)

15 Finn: Leave this particular story or I'm telling your parents.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:11 PM (x+5JB)

16 Hehe, sex is R-16 in Europe, only sadistic torture gives things an R-18, so basically I should only stay away from the terrorist propagandaexecution-videos-section.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:15 AM (cWMi4)

17 AFINN: Ever heard of Nevada? Mustang ranch, etc:

Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:19 AM (CBNGy)

18 Might as well keep commenting since there's no point in not to... The more known thing about Nevada to me is Las Vegas. Lotta movies about it, CSI is a good show.

Posted by: A Finn at April 10, 2005 01:21 PM (lGolT)

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Christian May Receive Death Penalty for Conversion

Yes, they kill you for leaving Islam. Many religions teach that apostates go to hell, but it is only in Islam that in modern times we find a willingness to send the unbeleiver there. In fact, all four major schools of Islamic jurisprudence still agree that the death penalty is acceptable in cases where the apostate refuses to come back to the true faith.

What is almost as troubling is that few moderate Muslims embrace liberal notions of religious freedom. At best, they renounce the death penalty in favor of other penalties--such as fines or jail.

Troubling article:

Christians in Iran have expressed great fears for the life of pastor Hamid Pourmand, a lay leader in a church and a convert from Islam, who will appear before an Islamic court next week to face charges of apostasy. If found guilty he is likely to face the death penalty.

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1 oh those Amish, there they go again.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 02:17 PM (tFXpR)

2 Or the Mennonites.....

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 02:30 PM (JQjhA)

3 Interresting, how Mohammeds teachings are interpreted to invent laws that stop countries from falling into pieces religiously. I sure am glad I don't live in a country where religion actually means something other than a cheaper burials and fancier weddingplaces than the guy who isn't in some church system.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 02:39 PM (lGolT)

4 Err....whaaa???

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 02:40 PM (JQjhA)

5 "...how Mohammeds teachings are interpreted..." There's not much to intereret when the Koran teaches that infidels should be killed.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 03:34 PM (MVl0c)

6 But ya gotta admit, kill the dissenters and you might be able to uphold a violent, oppressive system - that is, "stop countries from falling into pieces religiously." For a while.

Posted by: tee bee at April 06, 2005 03:51 PM (q1JHF)

7 Ahhh, it is all making sense now....

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 03:53 PM (JQjhA)

8 Good ole religion. Saves souls but hard on life. He'll go to heaven right! So what's the problem. Better if he would have stayed a Muslim. 72 virgins is better than St Pete.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 04:53 PM (CBNGy)

9 A few yars ago my father in law taught as an exchange teacher at a school in Istanbul. While travelling by ferry from Istanbul to the suburbs, we met a man who had converted from Islam to Christianity, and would have been in a similar boat if he'd remained in Iran, and was still less than well thought of even in Turkey. Greyrooster's comment is not even worth more response than to dismiss it out of hand.

Posted by: Brian B at April 06, 2005 05:46 PM (CouWh)

10 First of all. Young Burboon u are nothing but a racist idiot that doesnt know what hes talking about. Read the Kuran before u talk shit about it.

Posted by: Anwar at April 06, 2005 06:50 PM (lXf//)

11 Anwar, unlike Bourbon, I don't care what the Koran says, nor do I even care about the doctrine of Islam. It's your business not mine, because I don't hold a person's ideology against him. I only care how muslims BEHAVE. And the BEHAVIOUR of many muslims is abominable, and YOU should be speaking out against it, NOT me.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 06:56 PM (tFXpR)

12 Brian B. A little shallow between the ears today?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 11:54 PM (CBNGy)

13 Anwar: Bourbon is not a racist. I am. I resent sharing my title. How does this racist thing come into being. I dislike white muslims as much as I dislike brown or black muslims. As a matter of fact I dislike white muslims more than I dislike other muslims. I figure they should no better. Why is that racist? Muslims hate all Jews. Is that racist. You have been learning from the liberal moonbats. Don't like what you hear? The speaker is racist. Pathetic little shit. Come up with something better. You're the racist.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:03 AM (CBNGy)

14 Dear Greyrooster, Would you be willing to back up your statement?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 12:32 AM (FV4oJ)

15 It may be cold comfort for now, but if brother Pourmand is killed for his beliefs, he will find himself in some very good company.

Posted by: Sobek at April 07, 2005 01:39 AM (XwlU1)

16 Sokek: Amen. Anwar: "Read the Kuran before u talk shit about it." I've read it. And after, shit is all you CAN talk about.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:03 AM (x+5JB)

17 Sobek: Sorry for the mis-spell. Greyrooster: You are not only a racist, but you don't SHARE! :>)

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:06 AM (x+5JB)

18 YBP Lillwarrior666 = anwar Do you think that means little devil

Posted by: sparky at April 07, 2005 01:53 PM (F1nba)

19 Sparky: You have hit on something, sir. A very telling e-mail address, eh? Where's my holy water?!

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 02:43 PM (x+5JB)

20 Time for an exorcism methinks

Posted by: sparky at April 07, 2005 05:37 PM (F1nba)

21 Where's Max Von Sydow when you need him???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:19 PM (SENte)

22 lol the fact that my email is lil_warrior666 doesnt mean anything. I created that email when i was 11 years old. Greyrooster: Muslims dont hate all jews. We just hate the ones that kill us and invade our countries. And why do u hate all muslims? What have they done to u? Not all muslims are terrorists. In fact only a couple hundread of them are, and I hate them just as much as u do. Bourbon: I want to ask u why u after u read the Kuran u thought it was full of shit?

Posted by: Nour at April 07, 2005 08:20 PM (prIwV)

23 You are right about one thing. The behaviour of some muslims is very bad. But who are these muslims? Are they civilians living in America? Or are u talking about the extremists? When it comes to the extremists, again, I hate them too. They make muslims look bad. And btw why do u ppl only call the muslim extremists terrorists? What about the American soldiers that are killing Iraqi civilians? And what about the Jewish soldiers in Palestine? Why arent these people terrorists?

Posted by: Anwar at April 07, 2005 08:29 PM (prIwV)

24 Why because Terrorists are muslims. Now all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims. Terrorists come from the muslim religion. The spawn of Islam are terrorists. Therefore, I hate terrorists. Therefore I hate muslims. Mulims claim to be 1 billion strong. How many truly speak out about the terrorists. Talk is cheap. 1 billion muslims and only a few fight terrorism with any degree of fervor. You people aren't fooling anyone. Do something besides lip service if you wish to receive credit from civilized people. Your religion teaches hate. Your religion teaches war on its neighbors. Denying it merely proves it. The killings in India. Breakup of countries. Riots and killings in Europe, Killings during the olympics in Germany. The Taliban in Afghanistan. Killings in Asia. Murder in Bali. Murder in the middle east. Murder of children in Russia. Murder at the World Trade center. Murder in Iraq. Iran, Israel. Murder in Africa. The list goes on and on. There is one big problem in the world. ISLAM and the backward assed hateful little shits who follow it. Islam gives nothing to the world but agony. I am not a religious person. But other religions do not do what Islam and its jealous followers do. There would not be any killings in Iraq tonight if it was not for the ISLAMOFACIST BASTARDS. The people would have their freedom and American and friends would go home. Your a sick, jealous, cruel, silly, greedy, barbarous people who refuses to join modern humanity. The reason you are such is because of the religion and you are to stupid to see that undeniable fact. You always select the most hateful, mean leaders imaginable and say they are men of God. Now do you understand why I hate muslims. Bunch of backward friggin retards.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 09:22 PM (CBNGy)

25 And further more. You are ugly and don't drink beer. Reason enough to hate you. Those that don't like beer and pork chops are simpletons in the worst degree.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 09:25 PM (CBNGy)

26 Greyrooster, Reads like hatred is a projection of some inner rage of yours.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 09:34 PM (FV4oJ)

27 And the Jews haven't invaded any country. You are full of shit. And remember I don't care much for the Jews either. But they don't use Islam as a reason to hate America. America is my God. You hate America. I hate you. When you dumb shits quit acting like 3 years olds perhaps Israel will settle down. Then the Jews in America can move to Israel. Jews in Israel. Muslims in the middle east. Americans in America. The way it should be. Everyone happy. Now for you liberal assholes who are about to say but American Jews are Americans to. You know what I am talking about. Jews that are more concerned about Israel than America should be in Israel. Regardless of the papers they have. The same for the muslims. If you don't wish to act American, if American interests are not more important that muslim interests. Stay where you are. We don't want you and sure as hell don't need you.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 09:38 PM (CBNGy)

28 Nour: We don't hate jews, just the ones who kill us and invade our countries. What country have they invaded? Who and why have they killed. They retaliate. The jews would be perfectly happy to keep the boundaries of their country. You attack first and then cry when they kick your asses for it. If you and Anwar are not Palestinians, The palestinian/ Israel problem is none of your business. Here is the real truth. Palestinians should be kissing Americas ass for not letting the Jews destroy them and all other muslims sticking their noses into other peoples business. Israel can wipe the middle east off the map and if you keep pushing that's exactly what will happen. They will not lose their country before destroying yours. Muslims act like jealous little kids. Same as ass holes claiming they are going to destroy America. Any more Attacks like 9/11 and it will mean the end of all muslims in American. Do you really think we will tolerate any more of this behavior. Piss us off anymore and no muslim in America will be safe. As I said before, we don't need you. Act like Americans or get out. Beware. I say Osama Bin Laden is a murdering, jealous piece of shit. I say anyone who follows him or his teachings is a backward ignorant piece of garbage that should be hung by the neck until dead and then pissed on. What do you say? As we Americans say. The proof is in the pudding.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:03 PM (CBNGy)

29 >>>"Or are u talking about the extremists? When it comes to the extremists, again, I hate them too." Anwar, then join us in UNCONDITIONALLY condemning them. Let the non-extremist muslims be at the forefront of the war on terror. Let such muslims of goodwill fill the streets of our nation's capital in protest against Al-Qaida. Here in America you are safe to do so. So do it.

Posted by: David at April 07, 2005 10:26 PM (8e/V4)

30 Greyrooster, America is your God?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 08, 2005 01:07 AM (FV4oJ)

31 Anwar/Nour Just a joke you know 666 = the devil oh i can see you have upset our Local K KKlan Leader we cant have this! You will love him when you get to know him as we do. You just have to read between the lines and youll get him

Good man Rooster! Can i ask you a question well im going to ask anyway. Does it say in the kuran that anyone who refuses to convert to islam should be killed? Please clarify. No one is asking you to denounce your religions but just answer some questions, as you must agree some of the rules of islam are in the dark ages and should be modified. I also understand that though it is written in the kuran not every muslim follows this to the letter so to speak. A point i would like to make is that in all honesty all of these books of revelations are story books that have been written thousands of years ago by different people all with their own interpretations i think, that thousands of years later, believe what you will, but take it with a pinch of salt. Try to live life in peace with other mankind. The reason i bring this up is the american coptic christian family who were murdered in their own home and the Amina Wadid imam who said prayers to a congregation of male and female muslims, on this blog muslims were tearing that woman apart threatening her life and all sorts you only have to check the archives to find proof of this. YOu see i read claims that its not right for men and woman to pray together as it would take your mind off your prayers and causes you to look at members of the opposite sex in a lusting way. Some actually posted this. the question is, is this person trying to claim thats what causes affairs outwith marriage my response to that kind of ignorance in nonsense. If you are going to stray you will you cannot walk around not noticing anyone else or having to ineract with members of the opposite sex its all down to willpower and respect of our partners. Other comments made were that people who spend time with their friends basically do so at their own risk as it also causes affairs, this will happen if it is going to and nothing will stop it if you want it happen. I personally live by my own rules that i treat all people the same and with repsect and expect the same from others and so far havent sone too badly. Also not everyone here says there are only Muslim terrorists we have had discussions about other terrorist groups ie. the IRA/UDA, and as far as i am aware they are not muslims! or are they?

Seriously though it is nice to hear from a muslim who denounces the extremists/terrorists we need more of you. It would be nice to have a discussion on our differences without resorting to insults and abuse which is normally what happens,usually when a muslim is asked a totally legit question they dont want to answer. Please accept that most people are not tryin to insult you just asking questions and giving their own opinions for what they are worth

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 07:22 AM (F1nba)

32 Hey Rusty lol Couldnt post last comment because of questionable content i thought oh oh is it kkk is it ira, uda nope i tried to say social-ising can you believe that Brilliant you can have porn, beheadings all sorts but dare you say the S Word hahahahaha

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 07:37 AM (F1nba)

33 Anwar/Nour/666: The Koran is a man-made religion of hate advocating death to all who oppose it. For the millionth time (sigh), I understand that not all muslims are terrorists, but that's only because they are not living up to the Koran's hateful rules. If you're not going to follow the teachings, why be a memeber? Convert--but you'll have to change your email address. And be careful--as Sparky points out, its a capital offense.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 12:33 PM (x+5JB)

34 Knock Knock Ehmm Is Anwar coming out to play?

Posted by: sparky at April 08, 2005 04:24 PM (F1nba)

35 The Kuran is man-made? LOL, its the only book that still hasent been modified by mankind. And how is it hateful?? Your an idiot and u lie too. Again, U havent read it to talk shit about it, and say it teaches hate.

Posted by: Anwar at April 09, 2005 12:07 PM (bItO/)

36 Greyrooster: Iam not gonna waste my time responding to ur hate because i have better things to do. I obviously cant change ur opinion on muslims because u think all Muslims wanna kill u so be it. Personally i dont give a fuck what u think, u and ur Bourbon friend.

Posted by: Anwar at April 09, 2005 12:10 PM (bItO/)

37 "Does it say in the kuran that anyone who refuses to convert to islam should be killed? Please clarify." Dear Sparky, No it does not say that. It says that if u dont convert to Islam u will go to hell. And if u dont know about islam u wont go to hell. Now iam not a religious man but i do read the kuran in my free time and i do pray 5 times a day. Now i have a question of my own. Why are the Americans still in Iraq? Saddam is captured and there isnt any nukes there? So... whats ur excuse now?

Posted by: Anwar at April 09, 2005 12:21 PM (bItO/)

38 Sparky: Careful--Playing with Anwar is like playing with dynamite. (hehe.) Anwar/Nour/666: "The Kuran is man-made? LOL, its the only book that still hasent been modified by mankind. And how is it hateful??" Ask Daniel Pearl. Nicholas Berg. Or Jack Hensley. Or...need I go on? "It says that if u dont convert to Islam u will go to hell. And if u dont know about islam u wont go to hell. Now iam not a religious man..." So if you know about it but don't practice it, you'll go to hell? You state that you are not a religious man. So... you're going to hell? What a happy camper you must be, dude! "Greyrooster...Personally i dont give a fuck what u think, u and ur Bourbon friend." According to the dropped-out-of-the-heavens Koran, what happens to non-religious Muslims who use naughty words, Anwar/Nour/666?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 09, 2005 03:43 PM (YTaaE)

39 Anwar i am not american im scottish. i have said on numerous occasions that maybe the reasons we went to war were not what we were told but as i will continue saying there are a majority of people in iraq needing and asking for help. These people were living under a man who commited genocide they proved at their elections they wanted us there. Pros outweigh the cons this i believe, i pray for peace every night i would like to buy the world a coke and keep it companeee Ooops sorry thought i was talking to collin there i have to stop taking those drugs. Only kidding but i will say this dont anybody try to invade Scotland the woman are tougher than the men and their legs are hairier! Are u iraqi?

Posted by: sparky at April 09, 2005 09:25 PM (F1nba)

40 I dont know what the answers are but i do believe we can help the iraqi people get their lives back. Or at least after all this i hope they do. I am a great believer in FREEDOM. Maybe its a Scottish thing YBP Sparky v dynamite I agree could be dangerous

Posted by: sparky at April 09, 2005 09:47 PM (F1nba)

41 Please notice that these backward screwballs will not condemn Osama Bin Laden and others who follow him. My post is correct. ANWAR: Do you really think I care what you think of me. You represent the enemy. You know in your heart you cheer for the Islamic bastards out there killing innocent people. Your silly claims the you hate the extremists is nothing but bullshit. You know the Iraeli/Palestinian problem is none of your business. However, insignificant, hateful, little shits like you keep stirring the shit. You interfere not because you have a interest but because you hate the Jewish people and you hate America because we don't agreed they should be slaughtered by a bunch of religious fanatics still living the the 16th century. News for you dummy. If the Israelis were screaming for the blood of the Muslems. Sending sucide bombers to multilate innocent Muslems in their restaurants, etc. America would be standing up for the Muslems as we have done before. You people are to backward to understand America. You think more advanced civilizations think like you do. We don't! Your question of why we are in Iraq is proof that you are not advanced far enough to understand. Your hate is based on the teachings of your religion. A religion founded for one purpose only. War and the conquest of others. And then you call others racist. Pitiful, just pitiful. Waste your time? You've already wasted your time by attempting to learn English. Why learn English? Why learn to do what civilized people do. Why not just stay in your own countries and not waste your time with more advanced countries. Why? I'll tell you why. Because your countries are fucked up. Fucked up by religion. A religion that keeps you people far behind the rest of the world. You claim to be not religious but you fall to your knees and pray 5 times a day. YEA RIGHT TURKEY! You really convinced me on that one. And Mr. Dumbshit. If you don't give a fuck about what I think and you have better things to do. Then why did you attempt to have me added to your mailing list. Simpleton! Did you really think it would work? Ask first and I would have given you permission. You don't care what I think. GOOD. Just do me a favor and stay out of America until you evolve far enough to climb out of your tree. So backward that you are not smart enough to see your savior. AMERICA. I say that because you need to be saved from your silly little selfs.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:11 AM (CBNGy)

42 Sparky: Good point. You can say KKK or fuck you put not the dirty word. Social ist. On second thought. Rusty's correct. It is the nastiest word in the universe.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 10, 2005 02:15 AM (CBNGy)

43 Dear Anwar, You have posed an interesting question. We may all attempt to figure out why American troops are still in Iraq, yet the real answer eludes us. What is known is that there was a massive demostration in Firdos Square on the second anniversary of the invasion. Unlike the first, stage-managed demonstration with the Americans rubbing the U.S. Flag in the face of the statue of President Hussein, this latest demonstration packed the place with tens of thousands demanding social services be restored to pre-invasion levels. Bush, Blair and Hussein were lumped together by the angry demonstrators as hated effigies, knocked down amid chants for occupying forces to leave.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 04:15 AM (fufbw)

44 Bourbon:Sigh.. Ok look, in the Kuran it states that if you are not Muslim then your going to hell. But if you ARE Muslim then your going to heaven no matter what you did wrong. However you will suffer in hell for your bad deeds then go to heaven. I hope I got that cleared up for u. Praying is one of the most important guidelines in Islam. If you dont pray ur not really a Muslim. Just a Muslim by birth.

Posted by: Anwar at April 10, 2005 03:24 PM (95viR)

45 Sparky:No Iam not Iraqi, Iam Syrian.

Posted by: Anwar at April 10, 2005 03:27 PM (95viR)

46 Greyroorster: Your right, I don't hate the extremists, I hate what they are doing, and how they are doing it. They are killing muslims AND non muslims in horrifying ways. "You know that the Israeli/Palestinan problem is none of your business." How is it none of my business? Palestine is an Arabian country. It is being invaded. Iam arabian. The least I can do is point out to people that Israel is the invader. Not the other way around. Palestinans wouldnt want to kill anybody if you left them alone. I bet you there isnt going to be a palestine soon because Israel keeps expanding and expanding. Why couldnt America give some of ITS land or territory to all the jews that want their own country?? Isnt America their best buddy? I swear to god if u took Israel and put it anywhere other than Palestine(the center of the arab nation) not a muslim on this planet would hate jews, and if America stopped giving Israel weapons, again not a muslim on this planet would hate America. I was born and raised in Canada therefore I dont hate America. Matter of a fact without an America there probably wouldnt be a Canada. Greyrooster do u even know what Islam is? First of all Islam has many many things in common with the jewish book and the bible. Only minor details seperate them apart. For example, In the bible it says Jesus is the son of god. We dont think he was the son of god. We just think he was a messenger/prophet, like Mohammed. Your right about our countries being fucked up. The truth is they ARE. I go on a vacation to my country every year because I like to see my relatives there. Yes half of the arab countries are garbage. But its not because of Islam. Its because of the citizens. Their minds are full of shit. In fact like almost all Syrians dont know how to pray and drink beer, and go to clubs,etc etc, and havent picked up and read a Kuran in their entire life. THAT is why Syria is fucked up. However u go to Saudia Arabia ull find its not fucked up. Everyones good over there. Why? Because their good muslims. Not terrorists. But good muslims. Terrorists know that what their doing is wrong. I once read a story about some terrorist in Russia that saved a little girls life in the school he was up to blow up. And he told the mother of the girl that he was going to hell anyways so he might as well save this little girl. LOL i think the most outrageous thing u have said so far was that my saviour is America. How the hell is it my saviour?? That country NEEDS a saviour, or in other words someone other than George Bush. And how bout u answer my question?? What is America doing in Iraq now? U know whats funny? America put Saddam in the first place. Then he got outta control so they took him out. Ok. Now what. Watch in 10 years I bet u nothing will change in Iraq.

Posted by: Anwar at April 10, 2005 04:00 PM (95viR)

47 Anwar: Bullshit! America had nothing to do with putting Saddam in in he first place. A ridiculous statement. Saudi Arabia: Good muslim state? Proves my point. How many butchering assholes were Saudis when 3000 people were killed at the World Trade Center? Ya Man! The world needs more good muslims like the Saudis. You talk in silly little circles. Who the hell is Osama Bin laden? A Frenchman? Your failure to openly condemn Osama the prick shows where your heart is. You don't hate the extremists just what they do. A bullshit excuse. Like I don't hate cancer, just what it does. Stupid response. I hate the extremists, any one that supports them, actively or passively. The extremists exist because they are hidden and protected by other excuse making muslims. Again, I repeat the muslim religion has brought nothing but pain, suffering and agony to the world. It offers nothing to modern mankind. It is an anchor carried around the necks of ignorant people. It just keeps them backward. I started reading the Koran. An intelligent person will put it down before getting to far. It was obviously written by a mad man. Mean, jealous, silly, backward and cruel. If you were a true Canadian you would not be concerned about the middle east. Any more than I am concerned about Scandinavia. If Norway and Nigeria get into a war I should side with Norway because I'm white? NOW WHO IS THE RACIST. My loyalties belong in America. You are a shining example of why I say Muslims should not be in America. In fact, they should not be in Canada either. Their hearts are not with North American people. You are Arab. Not Canadian. If you were Canadian, you would address yourself as a Canadian and act the part. I do not call myself a Scandinavian. I call myself an American. This in itself is proof that Americans are a more fair and just people than Arabs. You obviously will not admit the truth in the Palestinian/Israel issue. As all Arab states will not. That is why 3 times they have attacked Israel in mass. Again, a silly little people, always ready to get their asses kicked. Issue of America selling guns to Israel. So America is bad. Then whoever sells guns to the Arabs in also bad. When Israel was flying Mirage jets was France bad? Why don't you hate the countries selling the Palestinians guns? Same difference. If you were not biased. Why doesn't America give land to the Jews for a country? Why doesn't Canada? Why doesn't Libya? Why doesn't Brasil. It's called JERUSALEM you dummy. I wonder why. America didn't make Israel. Don't blame it on us. Personally, I don't care for Jews any more than Arabs. Both are screwed up and have cost me, my family, my country and the rest of the civilized world much pain and suffering. The difference is that the Jews haven't attacked America. The spawn of Islam has. And they did it for RELIGIOUS REASONS. The attackers were praising Allah not Moses Your muslim nice guy bullshit doesn't hold up. If the probem is America and Israel, Why have the muslims and Hindus been hating, killing, and murdering each other for centuries? How can that be blamed on America? How about the murder of children in Russia by muslim (so called rebels). How can you blame that on America or Israel. Muslim extremists in the Phillipines, attacking, kidnapping and murdering innocent people. Americas fault? The bombings and murder of vacationers in Bali. Americas fault?. Muslim attacks on Buddists? Destroying Buddist statues. Americas fault? BULLSHIT. It is the fault of Islam. A backward hateful religion, practiced by a backward hateful people. Not the issue of America in Iraq. I don't believe America should be there. The reason why. Because I really don't think any muslim is worth saving. I used to think they were. Their actions have proven me wrong. Why should Americans die to give Arabs freedom. I don't know. Saddam should be released and given enough support to start his political party over again. Let him have Iraq. I could give a shit. They deserve him. They are like him. I say America should free him, make friends with him, and let him go about his way. I'm sure he has learned not to fuck with us. He will control the terrorists in his country. His people will not cry over panties on the heads of killers. Who knows maybe he will take care of the mad mullas of Iran while he's at it. You know one more big try. Maybe he can remarry and have some more fine sons to keep the population down. He will probably stop the impending problems that are going to happen between the Kurds and the Turks. Also in Iraq. He will just kill all the Kurds and the problem will go away. Let me see here. The Kurds are going to want an independent country. Independent of Turkey. Turkey is joining the EU. Will the EU side with the Turks? If they do, will the Arabs (muslims) side with the Kurds? God, I hope so. LOL. Or will it be just another slaughter? Are kurds Arab? Shit I don't even know. They probably don't either. So, I agree with you America should come home. We have different reasons for America coming home but we agree. The life of one American is worth more to me than all the silly, hateful muslins in the world. Be a man. Say what you believe. Go where your heart is. America is your savior because its the one thing that keeps Irael from applying the solution to the Muslim problem in the middle east. They learned the solution from the Germans. If it weren't for America the Jews would allow this thing to escalate until they had reason to set the Arabs back 500 years. Never think they wouldn't. They hate the Arabs as much as the Arabs hate them. The difference is they are a lot more technically advanced. They don't need to buy weapons. They already have developed the power to destroy the Arab world in one day. They will use this power the day the big dog on the block (America) says they can. However, we need the oil for our SUV's. When the price of oil get high enough, maybe, we'll give the go ahead. After all, We side with them. Right! Time to make coffee and go fishing. Bye. Think man think.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 11, 2005 04:58 AM (CBNGy)

48 Anwar Why do you not condemn the terrorist/extremists you said you did then you say you dont hate them, make up your mind are you saying you think they are right but just not how they are going about it? Our religions differ slightly well i would just like to ask how many Catholics/christians blow themselves up in the name of Jesus. How can you not HATE persons who deliberatly blow up schools full of children ? It is not the way and Allah should be ashamed along with all the other Muslims who condone these acts there is no justification for humans to blow themselves up killing innocents on a bus or in the street it is as if they are saying that their own personal opinions are more important than the person sitting next to them who has no choice wether they live or die because of them. If they are so angry let them kill themselves Rooster Good point Give them back Saddam thats just what should be done then theyll know all about it, he was such a good man you see. No genocide no killing of innocents bullshit he was a greedy b###### the world is full of them. I detest greedy people. Thats what causes so much trouble. On the palestinian thing i recently watched a programme discussing the martyrs blowing them selves up most were pround of their sons/daughters there were young children 8 years old that couldnt wait to grow up and become martyrs What is that all about. My god if my children came in and said this i would never let them out the door again. ONly one Child a 15 year old girl was against these suicide bombings her point was that when the Palestinian people got the land there would be no-one there to enjoy this as all the men would be dead. Old head on young shoulders but very true. She has the right attitude

Posted by: sparky at April 11, 2005 07:06 AM (F1nba)

49 Anwar/Nour/666: I once met a Syrian--a brilliant man, a philosopher with a PhD--he converted to Christianity! And it wasn't to get out of the Arabian world. This was back in the the 40's, before terrorists were blowing people up.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 11, 2005 07:47 AM (x+5JB)

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Noam Chomsky Was Right, There is a Media Bias

When you sit right behind the 10 yard line, pretty much every play seems like it's on the other side of the field. Hence, when Noam Chomsky, who is far-left of even the farthest left Democrats (he calls himself an anarcho-syndicalist), says the Mainstream Media (MSM) is 'right-wing', he is really using the term to describe any one in favor of capitalism. To Noam Chomsky, Ted Kennedy is a raving right-wing lunatic. Ok, maybe not raving, but right-wing nonetheless.

It is therefore surprisig to most people that I am a big fan of Noam Chomsky & Edward S. Herman's General Propaganda Model as put forth their book Manufacturing Consent.

While Chomsky and Herman's theory was developed to show how corporations control the media for their own anti-democratic purposes, the same theory can also be used to explain all sorts of media biases. Cassandra (via Emperor Misha) has an interesting post on the subject, and does a great job in classifying media bias once it has hapened, but it lacks a theoretical causal underpinning.

When attempting to explain liberal media bias the Propaganda Model does not need any grand conspiracy as the causal mechanism. Instead, it relies on the every day mundane activities of the hiring and editorial process.

Further, the advent of blogging may eventually make this theory arcane. As media voices diversify, the number of actors responsible for making decisions increases. Bias becomes less a concern because the diversity of thes voices are all over the ideological spectrum.

Here are the main causal points of the Propaganda Model, in nutshell:

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1 The only part of this that I would disagree with is the assumption that popular bloggers are influenced by smaller bloggers in what they write. Although I don't read all of them every day, I visit a very large number of blogs throughout the week. I very rarely see large bloggers linking to smaller ones. The exception would be Glenn Reynolds, and he isn't influlenced by smaller bloggers, because he doesn't write, he just links. And, his list of people he links to is fairly small.

Posted by: Drew at April 06, 2005 01:29 PM (Ml8z/)

2 True, but I seem to recall you e-mailing me just the other day....

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 01:33 PM (JQjhA)

3 You, unlike most bloggers of your "fame" respond to your email. There are always exceptions.

Posted by: Drew at April 06, 2005 01:52 PM (Ml8z/)

4 Excellent!!! Hope a lot of people read this. Framing is done all the time by both the government and media. Also terrorists note the letter to America post a while back. The letter seemed to make them almost tame. For our consumption as well as the middle east. Also terms like "strict law enforcement" VS "police state". Which would you rather have. "Tax reform" vs "Tax cut" or "Tax increase". The word reform sets the mind to believe there is a problem that needs fixed. Go Rusty.

Posted by: Howie at April 06, 2005 02:09 PM (D3+20)

5 "Members of the media choose stories that interest them." I think the argument is that they choose stories that sell. For the corporate media, the product isn't their articles. The product is you, the readers, which are sold to advertisers.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 02:45 PM (CqheE)

6 Interesting - and revealing - that Chomsky should describe himself as an anarcho-syndicalist. The only (temporarily) successful anarch-syndicalists in history were those who fought on the Republican side during the Spanish Civil War, and they were guilty of mind-boggling atrocities. Is that what Chomsky does when he has some time on his hand, just sits in his library dreaming about digging up the corpses of nuns and throwing them in the street, maybe nail a priest to a door?

Posted by: DWC at April 06, 2005 02:50 PM (Suv/B)

7 That is the argument, only it's a poor one because there are thousands of stories which could be picked which might help 'sell'.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 02:50 PM (JQjhA)

8 "That is the argument, only it's a poor one because there are thousands of stories which could be picked which might help 'sell'." I don't think it explains everything. It is part of the explanation though. Another part is you work for your boss. Who in the case of, say, CBS, would be the liberals over at GE. (IIRC).

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 03:09 PM (CqheE)

9 The problem with that line of reasoning is that it assumes GE makes editorial decisions. No evidence of that. Brian Williams now has editorial discretion over there. Further, who cares? Unless one defines 'right' in the way Chomsky does, then corporate ownership is meaningless. Why? Because all Americans support capitalism.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 03:16 PM (JQjhA)

10 "The problem with that line of reasoning is that it assumes GE makes editorial decisions. " Not really. It assumes people don't piss off their bosses. "Why? Because all Americans support capitalism." But I don't think they support GE's brand of large corporate capital that makes money off of big government expenditures in energy and defense. They could like, for example, adam smith's small producers. or Jefferson's more agrarian society.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 03:45 PM (CqheE)

11 Members of the media choose stories that INTEREST them AND WILL SELL. Therein lies the problem. What system guided them during their formative years. What type of ultra liberal moonbat was grading his papers at Journalizm school? Take the leftist side get an A and a smile. The other side gets a C+ and a scowl. Where's Pol Pot when you need him?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:03 PM (CBNGy)

12 Actus, And NBC is such a big media leader. Anyway, sounds like normal interest group politics to me.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 05:38 PM (JQjhA)

13 "And NBC is such a big media leader." Like I said. Just one example. Do you think fox reflects the biases of its owner?

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 06:14 PM (EQbuu)

14 If Dr. Chomsky was here in this forum, he would be more than willing to define and defend his theories.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:29 PM (FV4oJ)

15 Then read Chomsky and Herman's "After the Cataclysm" where, in denying the Cambodian mass murders, they virtually invent the techniques of Holocaust Denial.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 06, 2005 07:20 PM (xauGB)

16 Chumsky thinks Pol Pot was a swell guy.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:21 PM (tFXpR)

17 "If Dr. Chomsky was here in this forum, he would be more than willing to define and defend his theories." Collin, PLEASE use a contraction! Just one! Just once! Who programmed you???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:09 AM (x+5JB)

18 You noticed that too?. And the Dear shit is even worse. Yep! a commie program. No doubt.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:38 PM (CBNGy)

19 The Stepford Blogger???

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 02:44 PM (x+5JB)

20 Dr. Rusty, I linked to this story, but can't access the trackback for some reason. If you see me Fatwa'd, it was temporary.

Posted by: Hammertime at April 08, 2005 03:13 PM (cFg3z)

21 Rusty: Great exposition of the "intersubjective" nature of the media. Gitlin does a lot of analytical work on the framing of issues by media, etc. (At least that's the way I remember it.) I think Tom Hayden did a brief stint as Gitlin's research assistant. Isn't anarcho-syndicalist an alternate term for "nogoodnik?"

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The Pulitzer and Terrorist Embeds

Yesterday, a stringer for CBS News was shot by U.S. troops in Fallujah. Steve S. has the report here. So, why was the man shot at? Yahoo News:

The U.S. military said in a statement from Mosul released at the Pentagon that U.S. soldiers had been involved in an engagement with at least one suspected insurgent who was "waving an AK-47 (assault rifle) and inciting a crowd of civilians."
During the incident, "an individual that appeared to have a weapon who was standing near the insurgent was shot and injured. This individual turned out to be a reporter who was pointing a video camera," the military statement said.

Let's get a few facts straight. The individual shot at here may not have been embedded like AP photographers were. He may have just come across this scene after it began.

Maybe.

Paul at Wizbang makes the case and Rathergate note that it is quite possible that the AP stringer who shot this photo just happened upon the scene. Granted.

However, while most of the blogosphere is up in arms against that photo, the really troubling photo is this one.

This photo has no other explanation than that of the AP photographer being privy to the highest ranks of the insurgency. The photo was taken in Fallujah, where the 'resistance' was led by two well known terrorist groups, al Qaeda in Iraq and The Army of Ansar al-Sunna, and their salafist sympathizers of the Fallujah Mujahidin Shura Council--the religious leaders of the city that instituted a Taliban-like rule when the U.S. withdrew from the city.

As we noted when that photo was first taken, these 'insurgents' are in clear violation of the Geneva Convention because they wear no identifiable uniform. The photo also appears to be staged. All the evidence seems to suggest that the AP photographer, Bilal Hussein, had access to terrorist forces and was 'embedded' with them in every sense of the word.

Here is one more photo taken by the AP and which helped them win the Pulitzer. This time, the reporter is clearly embedded with Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army at a time when they were fighting U.S. troops. Note, again, the absence of identifiable uniforms. The dove on the fighters shoulder is just the icing on the cake.

While it may be argued that the murder witnessed by an AP photographer in Iraq was not staged for his benefit, clearly the above photos were. The Pulitzer Prize was, in fact, given to an organization that has information, ties, and serves the propaganda purposes of terrorists.

Aiding the enemy in a time of war is treason. The AP, an American non-profit organization, is guilty of that crime.

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1 So, do we have any cases where a reported, embedded or not, was killed by hostile forces and/or terrorists? And did the media rise up in arms against the non-US forces deliberately targeting reporters? That would be an interesting contrast.

Posted by: dodgeman at April 06, 2005 09:04 AM (fRt6P)

2 >>>"Aiding the enemy in a time of war is treason. The AP, an American non-profit organization, is guilty of that crime." So when they are incidentally killed by U.S. troops during combat, justice is being served.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:06 AM (tFXpR)

3 Is that...the Fallujah photo...can it...on the right...isn't that MC Hammer??!!

Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at April 06, 2005 10:04 AM (RHG+K)

4 Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 10:12 AM (JQjhA)

5 IMHO... its the responsibility of journalists like these AP photographers to get as close to the news as possible. If that means travelling alongside terrorists then so be it. They are not aiding the insurgency in any way, nor are they giving it publicity (terrorist media wings are fully adept at doing that themselves). All these journalists are doing is risking there lives to show us whats happening in Iraq first-hand. Those mortars would have been fired whether or not the AP dude was there to take snaps! A good analogy is US intelligence agents cooperating with small fish terrorists so as to build a picture of the wider insurgency. You don't complain about that, do you?

Posted by: Martin at April 06, 2005 11:54 AM (oe5ye)

6 I find it disturbing that this blog is so keen to publicise one form of propaganda (i.e. staged beheading videos); but at the same time so eager to censor less offensive "propaganda" (i.e. real-life military events as they occur on Iraqi soil). Can anyone explain?

Posted by: Martin at April 06, 2005 11:59 AM (oe5ye)

7 Both the Pulitzer and the Nobel Prizes have been awarded to people who are/were anti-American. This AP award just maintains a several decade long tradition. As the awards to the LAT further shows and the snub of Claudia Rosett for the great work she did the last 5 years on the scam known as Food-for-Oil.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at April 06, 2005 12:39 PM (Wcsda)

8 Well said Martin.

Posted by: Jim at April 06, 2005 01:02 PM (jcSwY)

9 It's simple, my bias is openly pro-American. I thought that was obvious?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 01:27 PM (JQjhA)

10 Please recall that the USA is/was _invading_ a country and killing its civilians (as collateral damages). Pictures were taken by Iraqis who see it as it is.

Posted by: Goofie at April 06, 2005 02:11 PM (B+6/8)

11 Please recall that Saddam Hussein was killing his civilians and that he was doing it on purpose, and not as a horrible and inevetable side-effect of war.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 02:18 PM (JQjhA)

12 This is why I don't weep when reporters are killed in war. Even less so when they're traveling with/aiding terrorists. In fact, we should take them out FIRST.

Posted by: Preston Taylor Holmes at April 06, 2005 02:25 PM (WsZ4F)

13 "This photo has no other explanation than that of the AP photographer being privy to the highest ranks of the insurgency. " why the highest ranks? could be just these guys with the mortar.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 02:44 PM (CqheE)

14 Well in my opinion if the reporters are travelling or know the "insurgents/terrorists" why is it when the media reps are kidnapped or anyone else for that matter they dont know who to contact? Hmmmmm Could it be selective memories?

Posted by: sparky at April 06, 2005 03:09 PM (F1nba)

15 "The dove on the fighters shoulder is just the icing on the cake." It was probably that sentiment that made that photo a winner.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 03:14 PM (CqheE)

16 Actus, A) Because the 'insurgency' in Fallujah was planned by Abu Musab al Zarqawi himself. B) You're right, it was. I also once saw a photo of Hitler receiving a flower from a little girl. Touching.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 03:28 PM (JQjhA)

17 "Because the 'insurgency' in Fallujah was planned by Abu Musab al Zarqawi himself." Whats that got to do with privity between a photogropher and some men with a mortar. You think our commander in chief is privy to every media person in the field? every piece of media made by our embeds? Are you sure it was zarqawi and not former baathists, or both? " I also once saw a photo of Hitler receiving a flower from a little girl. Touching." Slightly. He did lots of PR shots.

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 03:48 PM (CqheE)

18 I don't understand how the AP photographers were "aiding" terrorists. You don't see them shooting an rpg or bringing them another mortar between snap shots. Where does it say that the AP reporters are cooking for the insurgents after a hard day's work? They are just there to document the events. If anything you have to question their morality because if they really knew when an attack was going to take place they should have reported it. I don't know about other circumstances but as far as that election worker execution is concerned, the AP were tipped off on a "demonstration". If they chose to report on any information they witness or hear then their life would be in danger. They are simply choosing neutrality in order to document the events. NOT PARTAKING IN IT. How is this treason? And just stop with the terrorist propoganda crap. If anything the US military should appreciate the work the AP is doing. They show faces of the insurgents. They give clues to their location, types of weapons used, level of orgnization and experience. Some are asking why pictures that show the brighter side of Iraq were not chosen. In this case, I don't think Pulizter or the AP staff is trying to show anti-American views. I think the AP staff was honored because they risked their lives and showed the carnage of war. Although pictures of soldiers playing with kids SHOULD be shown, I don't see how the photographers who took those pictures put themselves in the same level of danger as the AP photographers that were honored. If anything, Pulitzer is awarding them for their courage instead of their "pro-terrorist propoganda activities." So you can view the photos and judge the award all you want. Just don't go as far as declaring their actions as treason.

Posted by: Jim at April 06, 2005 04:39 PM (RMdxJ)

19 I can't inagie a staged photo with a US Marine,dove on shoulder would get anything but laughter and criticism. No bias indeed!

Posted by: Brad at April 06, 2005 04:59 PM (NzgK/)

20 Jim, "I don't understand how the AP photographers were "aiding" terrorists." In a war-zone, there is no such thing as 'neutrality'. This is not "Rebublicans vs. Democrat" or "liberals vs. conservatives" this is US vs. THEM. Either you are with us or you are against us. If you are 'neutral' then get out of the war zone. Further, propaganda is part and parcel to warfare. Media, then, serves that purpose. Goebbels, for instance, was every bit as much responsible for Nazi aggression as was Hess or Goering and Thomas Paine was every bit as responsible for the Revolutionary War as was George Washington, even though he never fired a gun.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 06, 2005 05:04 PM (JQjhA)

21 Martin: Maybe because the so called actual events are staged. The sight of an American military vehical blowing up in the air. Yea, right, the photographer didn't know it was going to happen. A million miles of road and the photographer just happened to be standing there.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:17 PM (CBNGy)

22 Benedict Arnold was just as responsible for killing American patriots as any redcoat. Without firing a shot. He sided with the enemy. That in itself was enough to give aid and comfort to the enemy. A traitorous act.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:21 PM (CBNGy)

23 GOOFIE, Hmmmm, YEP! Goofie is right. As goofie as can be.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:24 PM (CBNGy)

24 Rusty, "If you are 'neutral' then get out of the war zone." If journalists and photographers are not allowed to assume a neutral role in a war zone, how will the world get an unbiased and accurate documentation of the events? The last thing we should want is for a drape to be spread over Iraq and only lifted after "everything becomes okay". As an educator, I don't see how you would endorse this form of censorship and denial of information. As for the propoganda issue, you mention Goebbels (a minister of propoganda) and Paine who both spread propoganda through speeches and written work. If the AP was attaching notes such as "People of Iraq, unite against the US!!!" with their photographs then you would have a foundation for your arguement. The AP photographers only release images that document the events of war. People viewing them are left to decide the impact and validity of the images on their own.

Posted by: Jim at April 06, 2005 05:33 PM (RMdxJ)

25 " Either you are with us or you are against us. " Showing a terrorist is with us or against us? I mean, I can think of a website that gives updates and publicity on all the latest terrorist execution videos. Videos I don't really hear about otherwise. With us or against us?

Posted by: actus at April 06, 2005 06:16 PM (EQbuu)

26 >>>"The dove on the fighters shoulder is just the icing on the cake." Good point. That's the silliest thing I've ever seen. Yet someone got a Pulitzer for it. What a joke.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 06:36 PM (tFXpR)

27 This photo has to be staged. That moron with the mortar has no idea of what the hell is doing. MC Hammer looks like the only one who does. These guys look like part of Ringling Bros, Barnnum and Bailey.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 06:59 PM (CBNGy)

28 Notice the only way the jihadi could get the dove to pose was to wrap a noose around the bird's neck.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:23 PM (tFXpR)

29 Poor dove probably ended up as a kabob, slowly cooked over a camel dung fire after his head was removed with a dull knife.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:13 AM (CBNGy)

30 Hey Jim, email me.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 03:56 AM (FV4oJ)

31 Birds of a feather, flock together.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 07:57 AM (CBNGy)

32 What would the animal rights people say about this blatant animal exploitation?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:16 AM (x+5JB)

33 Rusty... your exposing of media-terrorist collaboration seems to be a contentious issue.... ...whereas your discovery about the current whereabouts of MC Hammer (plus understudy) seems to be hugely popular. Please post more pictures if you have any.

Posted by: Martin at April 07, 2005 10:27 AM (oe5ye)

34 Ya! What ever happened to MC. I know that he was building a 10,000,000 house in Fairmont, Ca. that ended up costing $30,000,000 resulting in bankruptcy. You would think he would make a comeback. I enjoyed his dancing.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:44 PM (CBNGy)

35 "What ever happened to MC" I'm more interested in what Slim Whitman's been up to.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 02:48 PM (x+5JB)

36 Collin, I don't know your email. Send it to me.

Posted by: Jim at April 07, 2005 03:04 PM (jcSwY)

37 Jim, its' on my blog.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 06:25 PM (FV4oJ)

38 What about Hanoi Jane? How come she was never tried for being a traitor? See all the media shit about her, since she wrote a tell all book? NOW she's sorry about posing with those gooks! She'll say anything to get book sales. What a twat.

Posted by: Laura at April 10, 2005 06:55 PM (L3PPO)

39 Dear Laura, Perhaps she was not tried for being a traitor because the didn't fit the criteria.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 10, 2005 07:03 PM (FV4oJ)

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April 05, 2005

Fascism, thy name is Oh Canada!

Here is a link to the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa's Visa services for Canadian citizens just in case you wish to escape before it is too late.

But I thought it was the other way around? Bush=Hitler, neocon cabal, Patriot act gulags, etc....?

Wrong. The name Michael J. Bryant should send more chills up your spine than John Ashcroft ever did. Captain Ed has the goods.

UPDATE: Either the Canadians have gotten to Ed or he's way over his bandwidth limit. His site is down. Here is the article in question.

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1 As for me, Canada has done a very good job standing up to fascism in all its forms.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 05, 2005 06:36 PM (FV4oJ)

2 Right. Like their 'hate speech' laws?

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 08:47 PM (ywZa8)

3 24 hours after you owned the AP press pulitzer debacle, fox news just credited "some bloggers" with making a stink about it. Bozo vs Colmes. Pathetic. The first ever testosterone free fight.

Posted by: john at April 05, 2005 08:50 PM (MIa98)

4 Didn't Canada just recently allow Fox to be broadcast there? What's that aboot?

Posted by: Buckley F. Williams at April 05, 2005 08:57 PM (O2fD/)

5 Actually, in resisting the siren call of the Bushian War Cult.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 05, 2005 11:48 PM (FV4oJ)

6 I think Captain's Quarters is providing us all with an object lesson we ought to think about. If the FEC is going to go after bloggers - as I think many of us fear - who's going to set up a blogspot in, say, Costa Rica for the 2008 election? The powers-that-be in Canada are tied in pretzels trying to stop him but they can't because he's in the USA. The powers-that-be in America - at least the lefty ones - want to silence the bloggers too. Plan ahead, O you 20th most influential blog.

Posted by: Suburbanguy at April 06, 2005 12:49 AM (kBfY4)

7 Same shit, different asshole, thats the way of the world. Bush is very much Hitler, so have most of the former US presidents been. USA is the only country in the world after 3. Reich to establish huge military bases all around the world and actively conquer/attempt to conquer (Vietnam, Korea =P bwahahaaa losers) countries for even the smallest of reasons, like stopping oil sale to a country that can dig its own darn oil and use that or because they build an airport (Grenada)... EU is exactly what Hitler dreamt of, a unified Europe with Germans pretty much running the show (well the French too... sort of), yes. But the conquest happened in peaceful ways and by frightening countries with the possibility of Soviet or US invasion, if they didn't group up against em. And now EU also has most money, oil, weapons of mass destruction and the largest, most efficient military force in the world, so I think it's time we determine how we'll share USA with Russia, once all Europe is unified (much like Germany was divided after the Ruskies took Hitlers body, stuffed it and put it on display in the Lenin Museum in St.Petersborough (Leningrad)).

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:48 AM (cWMi4)

8 And Michael J. Bryant is a useless piece of shit with no real power, so no use thinking he could be more Hitler than Bush. (Who the f is John Ashcroft?)

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:51 AM (cWMi4)

9 Fine crop of trolls you're growing there, Rusty. Captain Ed is up over 400,000 visitors a day, so his server is chugging a little. Apparently Hosting Matters did some tweaking, and it's back up and reasonably quick.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 06, 2005 04:52 AM (+S1Ft)

10 Which would be better: taking the Rockies, deserts and Mississippi or taking that gay north-east area with loads of people and the swamps down south?

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:58 AM (cWMi4)

11 A Finn: looks like its time to take your meds again.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 06, 2005 05:50 AM (IseOd)

12 Dear Mr. Finn, Nice of you to join us. John Aschroft was the strange Attorney General who was obsessed with dressing naked statues. Are you advocating using military force against the United States?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:06 AM (fufbw)

13 Mr. K: I'm not currently under any medication, but if you feel like I should be, feel free to address the problem to the department of health in Oulu, and they will have my mental health examined. If how ever I am not found to be insane, all expences that came from the process of examining (1 psychologist appointment most likely), will be yours to pay. Collin: Well then Johnie-boy was a funny man, not a fascist =), perhaps a bit insane though, if he was dead-serious. And using military force against United States is very much an option if your wars keep becoming more and more frequent as they have done during the Bush-periods.(not periods as in periods, even though blood has been spilt a lot during those times)

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:21 AM (cWMi4)

14 Actually, most of your military strenght is located quite far from your actual country, therefore a large alliance (or just one country with longrange WoMDs) could easily destroy all major cities and abroad military bases, since they are neatly located on small areas near the coast line or, better yet, on islands. This would naturally lead into a "fuck this, if America doesn't exist, neither will the rest of the world"-effect, which is launching nukes from your large, empty areas somewhere in the middle. So military offence to actually destroy the country rather than to kill all its military personnel abroad, that actually causes a threat, seems unlikely until an effective anti-missile defence system is developed.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:43 AM (cWMi4)

15 Well, actually, when you get your next democrat president, EU will most likely start increasing trade and co-operation with your country as well as offer to take care of all military conflicts and in that way, help your assumeably wiser-than-Bushwackoes democratic government fix your depressed economy.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:47 AM (cWMi4)

16 Dear Mr. Finn, Do you know what "Nemesis" means?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 07:03 AM (fufbw)

17 Collin: 1. A source of harm or ruin 2. Retributive justice in its execution or outcome 3. An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome. 4. One that inflicts retribution or vengeance. 5. Also the goddess of retributive justice or vengeance. 6. Perhaps what Russia is to USA 7. Also perhaps your term for me

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 08:08 AM (lGolT)

18 Nemesis, not collin...

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 08:09 AM (lGolT)

19 Dear Mr. Finn, What do you think of her?

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 08:14 AM (fufbw)

20 I live close enough to throw a rock into Canada. There is no more left leaning country in the world. Nearly everything is controlled by the Gov't. If Canada is a democracy then we should think of any Marxist, S o c i a l i s t, Communist country as a democracy. Their programs are so s o c i a l i s t i c it isn't funny. ............ You can't use the word S o c i a li st in a sentence in comments. It will reject the comment. Chris

Posted by: Chris at April 06, 2005 08:17 AM (bBPpv)

21 In Canada you can be arrested for "thought crimes". Google "Ernst Zundel". He made the "outrageous" claim that fewer than 6,000,000 Jews died in WWII. He has since been extradited to Germany where they also put people in prison for "thought crime". If the "Juice" have their way it will soon be like that in the US too. While the truth needs no laws to support it, dogma requires laws to protect it from the light of day. I suspect that only 5,999,999 Juice died in WWII. That should infuriate you Zionazis into a spiraling hysteria. And don't give me that anti-semite shit. Freedom of thought and speech is more important than hurting the feelings of the Juice.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 09:00 AM (/+dAV)

22 Greg, Zundel wasn't imprisoned by joooos. He was imprisoned by the Leftist Canadian government. As you know, the jooos run America, but it's no crime here to deny the Holocaust. Conclusion: Leftists, not jooos, are a threat to freedom.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:12 AM (tFXpR)

23 Carlito, Obviously it was the Jewish Lobby that pushed and had these laws passed. Don't think for a second that rightists won't succumb to the same pressure. For your information, Zundel was living in Tennessee when America extradited him to Canada first.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 09:23 AM (/+dAV)

24 >>>"Obviously it was the Jewish Lobby that pushed and had these laws passed." Greg, I guess that's what happens to jooos living in Leftist countries. They start acting like Leftists. Canadian Leftism brings out the totalitarian in all Canadians, not just the jooos. To the point where they ban Fox news and throw preachers in jail for citing Scripture. What a frightening society the Leftists are creating up there. Zundel is paying the price. But in America, our jooos act like free men living in a free country. So you see, it's culture and tradition and ideology which determine how people will behave, not joooishness.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:41 AM (tFXpR)

25 Not to mention, there is no "joooish lobby" in Germany, yet they have banned Zundel's literature and all Holocaust denying literature. Socialests. And Zundel does not merely claim less than 6 million jews were killed. He denies the Holocaust happenned. He's a nazi, and he makes no bones about it. "I have interviewed Zundel more than once, and have even debated him. In one such encounter, he was forthright about who he was. "Are you a National Socialest?" I asked him. He replied that he was. "Nazi is the short form for National Socialest, Mr. Zundel. Is that what you are? A Nazi?" The answer: "Yes." He was not ashamed of it." http://www.warrenkinsella.com/words_extremism_rz.htm

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:51 AM (tFXpR)

26 Re Zundel's extradition, Zundel made a mistake of applying for Canadian citizenship. By doing so, he unwittingly set in motion a process that enabled officials - including the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) - to start determining whether he could be denied citizenship on the grounds that he was a threat to national security. To many, there was no doubt he was - he had funded violent neo-Nazi groups in Europe, and he had used his web Zundelsite to propagate hatred around the globe. Zundel fought hard, flooding the courts with motions and appeals, but he saw the writing on the wall. In December 2000, the Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear any more of his increasingly-arcane legal arguments in the case. A few weeks later, Zundel fled to the United States - where, in a letter issued by one of his lawyers, he renounced his permanent residency status. There, he devoted himself to his Zundelsite, defying a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal order to remove hateful material. http://www.warrenkinsella.com/words_extremism_rz.htm U.S. INS agents arrested him at his home outside Knoxville, Tennessee after he had fled Canada Zundel had overstayed his visitor's visa, and the Americans - understandably - wanted him to leave. So he was extradited because he violated his visa. Had he not done so, it's quite likely he'd still be here stirring up trouble like we allow our jihadists and Arab apologists on the Left to.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:56 AM (tFXpR)

27 think of whom? I have no idea who you're talking about, and since sourceforge clearly states Nemesis is a hackerprogram that sends some shitty packages to other computers, I assume you sent one to the E-mail address or one of the public computers I was using today...

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:02 AM (lGolT)

28 "Right. Like their 'hate speech' laws?" - Rusty I'm simply agreeing with Rusty. You've have done your homework. What you say about his ciitizenship process is correct. He supposedlly missed an appointment which he denies. First of all there is a Jewish Lobby in Germany. There is an International Jewiish Lobby whose jurisdiction would include Germany. Secondly, so what if he's a Nazi. Should that be against the law if he's not being violent? Zundel is a painter of pictures. A peaceful man who loves Germany. No one has ever accused him of being violent. To the contrary his house was burned down to the ground in Canada. Good guess is that it was done by a Jew. The notion of "thought crimes" iis undemocratic no matter how you slice it.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:09 AM (/+dAV)

29 Naturally, the comment was meant to be to Collin Barber, the guy who has to download tools from the internet to find a way to get stuff into other peoples computers.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:11 AM (lGolT)

30 Don't bother by the way, I have an automated offence-defence system when I get any package I didn't approve, so you'll probaply lose all your .dlls unless you have a newly updated F-Secure.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:14 AM (lGolT)

31 Greg, I agree with your basic premise that he's committed no crime, but what I'm saying is that this kind of repression comes naturally to socialest societies, not to conservative ones. Re the "international joooish lobby," notice how even though they've supposedly taken this country to war against our own interests (say you folks), they have yet to create the climate of repression you claim they have in socialest countries. How is that possible? Not very likely. If jooos can take us to war, they can pass a few hate crime laws. My conclusion: Leftism is the culprit re Zundel and Germany, not joooishism.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:18 AM (tFXpR)

32 Leftist like those from the right make laws based on political pressures. Where to you suppose the political pressures to outlaw anti "-Holocaust Denial" and "-Holocaust Revisionism" came from. Obvious answer, The JOOOOOS. And just because they haven''t succeeded in instituting these laws here YET doesn't mean they aren't trying and making headway. As you know we do have hate laws in America so it's a slippery slope. Blame the leftists including the Jewish left who were instrumental in having these laws passed. God help us if a machine is invented that reads minds. Anyone of us could be made into a "thought criminal". The right is guilty too. There is a movement by the right to make "political paranoia" a bonafied pyschological disorder requiring commmitment to mental hospitals. That's what the Soviets did to their dissidents. If you think it's all about the left you're not being fair.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:32 AM (/+dAV)

33 My conclusion. There's too much governmental intrusion into our lives and now our heads. Both the left and the right share the blame.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:38 AM (/+dAV)

34 Greg, I can only worry about what I actually see happenning, and I only talk to you about what I actually see happenning, i.e., Canada. But you want to create hysteria about what MIGHT happen in the future, which usually never ever comes to pass anyway. Re laws against "political paranoia", that must be a colorful way of putting it because I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:40 AM (tFXpR)

35 Â“When the 109th Congress convenes in Washington in January, Senator Bill Frist, the first practicing physician elected to the Senate since 1928, plans to file a bill that would define Â‘political paranoiaÂ’ as a mental disorder, paving the way for individuals who suffer from paranoid delusions regarding voter fraud, political persecution and FBI surveillance to receive Medicare reimbursement for any psychiatric treatment they receive,Â” writes Hermione Slatkin, Medical Correspondent for the Swift Report. Â“Rick Smith, a spokesman for Senator Frist, says that the measure has a good chance of passingsomething that can only help a portion of the population that is suffering significant distress.Â” Â“If youÂ’re still convinced that President Bush won the election because Republicans figured out a way to hack into electronic voting machines, youÂ’ve obviously got a problem,Â” says Smith. Â“If we can figure out a way to ease your suffering by getting you into therapy and onto medication, thatÂ’s something that we hope the entire 109th Congress will support.Â” Characterizing political dissent as a form of mental illness is the hallmark of authoritarian government. In China, for instance, forensic psychiatrists label dissent Â“political lunacyÂ” (see Jacob Sullum, Head Games: What are the rules for defining mental illness?) and in Soviet Russia political dissenters were routinely cosigned to mental hospitals. Nowadays, with modern pharmacology, mental hospitals are no longer requiredthe mental hospital is internalized through chemical intervention. No need for FEMA camps or Â“preventive detentionÂ” when we have a Â“medical armamentariumÂ” of serotonin uptake inhibitors. All that is needed now is for Frist and the Republicans to devise a law defining Â“political paranoiaÂ” and determining that Â“political paranoiacsÂ” are a threat to society.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:51 AM (/+dAV)

36 Greg, are you citing the Onion? Sure sounds that way. Here's what I think. If true, then this is a prank by Frist. If we can get Libs suffering from post-election stress trauma (PEST) to take their meds and get reimbursed for it, then the jokes on them. That's all this is-- a big joke on the loons. Even if the so-called legislation fails to pass, the point has been made and the joke's on them. It's a prank.

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:58 AM (tFXpR)

37 Playing "pranks" on the American people is hardly the duty of a US Senator. This is no prank. It is the excercise of unabashed political power. With a Republican House,, Senate and Supreme Court there's nothing to stop thiis sort of legalistic bullying. We are witnessing the death of democracy in America. People who go to a political rally in honor of the fuhror wearing an annti-Bush T-shirt are arrrested by the Secret Service. Now how does a T-shirt pose a threatt to thhe Tyrant Bush?

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:05 AM (/+dAV)

38 >>>"People who go to an annti-Bush T-shirt are arrested..." do you have a link for that?

Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 11:07 AM (tFXpR)

39 I tried to send you a link. I've been bumped off the site. Comment Submission Error Your comment submission failed for the following reasons: Your comment could not be submitted due to questionable content: Please correct the error in the form below, then press Post to post your comment.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:15 AM (/+dAV)

40 It's no secret. Protesters are arrested at nearly every pro--Bush event for wearing T-Shiirts or shouting their mind. Here is one of many links.. www.refuseandresist.org/police_state/art.php?aid=1495 just google "bush t-shirt arrest" Thank God it's a "free country" huh?

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:16 AM (/+dAV)

41 I had to remove "http" from the link in order to submit Go figure

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:17 AM (/+dAV)

42 Here's another link: www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/10/ale04068.html The MSM has been silent/complicit on this.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:41 AM (/+dAV)

43 No country is really a democracy, since "democracy" itself means that the people make all decisions, govern the country and handle all business and affairs as a one. USA's system is more like an oligarky, a system where the richest control and select the people in charge, and therefore hold the ultimate power in the nation.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 12:01 PM (lGolT)

44 There's no use complaining about methods of governing a country, unless there is no other way to influence them. A diverse, large country requires some pretty mean ways of control to keep it as a one. Waging war on not so popular countries is a bad way of doing that, so it is necessary to keep the opposition silent at home, where it influences people, who might revolt, and shit like in 1917-Russia might happen. Most of the large scale anti-Bush gatherings must've been organized by the democrats or a large operation determined to disrupt order, therefore it is necessary for your government to take offensive measures and perhaps violate the principles of freedom of speech. When such movements are allowed to grow in a country pretty much crawling with newspeople, it would get publicity and keep growing. It has been seen what that leads into: During the Cold War people went red all over, and when it got too big, you started attacking countries turning red and threw all reds in your country to jail. This kind of politics is exactly why people around the world started hating your country, and that is why all such large, contraversial operations are held in secret or suppressed with imprisonments. (Also, if enough people go anti-Bush, they go pro-democrat/liberal/greenparty, and then there won't be another republican president for 30 years, so---wouldn't really bother me--- the country would be heavily divided in half) And you have pretty much no gun restrictions, so who knows what kind of army might pop up in the event of disorderly conduct spreading through the nation.

Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 12:17 PM (lGolT)

45 again, Finn, go take your pill(s).

Posted by: Mr. K at April 06, 2005 05:27 PM (bbOr3)

46 A FINN: For the last time. Please share those drugs. I want some. I need some. Please. Your friend in sport.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:33 PM (CBNGy)

47 Hey AFINN: The ruskies are already here. Like a tidal wave. As Kruchev (spelling)said we will bury you without firing a shot. I guess they plan to breed up out of existence.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:37 PM (CBNGy)

48 Greg: I've heard that same line before. Original??? Don't think so. Pulling a collin baber?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:42 PM (CBNGy)

49 AFINN: You failed to mention the biggest reason the world hates us. JEALOUSY. Now send me those drugs or feel the wrath of THOR. A Norweigan/Swede. The ultimate human.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:48 PM (CBNGy)

50 Dear Mr. Finn, She comes in many forms, best descibed in RAND document MR461.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:21 PM (FV4oJ)

51 AFINN: OuLu? is that in Uganda?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 07:03 PM (CBNGy)

52 AFINN: OK Buddy. You win. I'll sponser your immigration. Send me the papers. No football, no basketball, no baseball. Just reindeer milking contests. I can see how you can get bored. I hear there's a big snow shoveling contest in Helsinki this weekend. Go for it. Now will you share?

Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 07:10 PM (CBNGy)

53 Greg, you are quoting things that show you definitely do need a psychiatrist but Frist isn't going to do anything to get you the help you so clearly need.

Posted by: SPQR at April 06, 2005 07:30 PM (xauGB)

54 Dear Greyrooster, Oulu is in Finland

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 08:42 PM (FV4oJ)

55 Colin: Helsinki and the Reindeer are where?

Posted by: Brad at April 06, 2005 08:59 PM (ywZa8)

56 This collin baber asshole is so stupid its funny. As if EVERYONE but this creep didn't know it was a joke. No wonder this dipshit is a traitor. He/she/it is to stupid to be a patriot.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:21 AM (CBNGy)

57 Dear Mr. Greyrooster, We're still waiting for that Fallujah quote URL.

Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 12:35 AM (FV4oJ)

58 Reindeer milking contests? Hmm... interresting idea. Friggin wierd, but interresting. The snow shoveling championships are held in January, not much snow right now. I'm not really interrested in moving to your country, since here I don't really have to much to live a rich life thanks to advanced social services and the variety of cushy jobs available in the EU to highly educated Finns. Besides, we had baseball before you did, it was called kÃƒÂ¶ssipallo, and it wasn't running around in a diamond shape thingie, it was in a zigzag-and-back-pattern. The national sport now is a variation of kÃƒÂ¶ssipallo, pesÃƒÂ¤pallo, same zigzag, but the passes go directly upward and there are lines within which the ball must touch if the strike isn't foul. AND, bwahahaaa, the first time we entered the American Football World Championships, we WON the whole tournament and became the world champions with less than a years game experience. (Guess we're naturally brawlers or have a strong killer instinct) Basketball is fun, sort of, but not very popular around here. Last, no I won't get you drugs, since I would have to go 100miles east to Russia to get cheap ones without being in some diagnosed state of insanity (once more: department of health in Oulu can be notified, if you consider me insane. They'll arrange a psychologist session, and you have to pay for it, if I don't turn out to be insane. If, however, my mental state is questionable, I will most likely recieve medication treatment, and you will be notified of it).

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:36 AM (cWMi4)

59 Ah yes, Finland...famous for snow, Vodka, Rapalas, and, uh Rapalas.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 06:47 AM (QYx/q)

60 A FINN seems to be most interested in this mental health thing. Bet he knows exactly where it is. Experience? Advanced social services. I guess they are needed in a country with a mediocre standand of living. No immigration problems. No minority problems. Doesn't do shit for the rest of the world and the best Finland can come up with is mediocrity. Little dogs should wag their tails, not yap at the big dog doing something other than yapping. Yap, Lap. Rhymes. Remember the big dog rules. (1) Ignore them. (2) Piss on them (3) Turn and beat the shit out of them. You get a (1). For now.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 08:18 AM (CBNGy)

61 What is it with Americans comparing their country to a big dog? Guess someone has to put it to sleep, since it looks like it has rabies. ...didn't know Rapalas were known in US. And also, we sold the main vodka distributers and producers to Sweden, since people seem to prefer what they make themself. No, I have never seen a psychologist, it's just useless bullshit, and mediocre is hell of a lot better than having 5% rich people and 95% working as their slaves and living in shitty appartments using all their money to pay for credit card bills.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 09:37 AM (lGolT)

62 Finn: "living in shitty appartments using all their money to pay for credit card bills." 95% of the people in this country are "poor"? Compared to what? I daresay that the 95% "poor" people in the U.S. still manage to eat pretty well, have at LEAST one car, decent clothes, and have a 250-channel satellite dish (misspent money on the last one, in my opinion). Much of the world wishes it were this "poor."

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 09:50 AM (x+5JB)

63 as an avid bass fisherman, my hat is off to Rapalas. Besides that, Finland is a lot like Minnesota, except no injuns, and the language is FUCKED up. Ni puhu suome.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 10:00 AM (ZCYWE)

64 Not saying they're poor, just saying they are completely owned by their masters, the 5%. A 250-channel one? Since Finland (despite what the Spanish think) is a part of Europe, we get over 3000 channels (this far I've gone through about 1000) from all over Europe,(great way to learn new languages, since usually subtitled only in French or German (the darn channels are useless without at least high school level language knowledge)) and also many of your channels. For some reason I can't find MTV though... just MTV Europe, and that's full of mushy pop. "Ni puhu suome" is actually : Yeah, speak Finnish! in a Turku-slang kind of way. Bet you heard that in Runescape... I understand the language is hard, even Russians, who have been living right (or left perhaps...) next door still can't understand Finnish well enough to translate whatever comes out of Finnish TV-system to their side of the border and complain how this and that insults their country and then get annoyed when it was actually something completely different.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 10:36 AM (lGolT)

65 I learned that in a bar in Aanekoski (sp?), I worked for a few days at Metsu Serla paper plant. They serve beer in the cafeteria, pretty good policy in my view. I got a speeding ticket in Finland. I had no clue what the fucking road signs said, or how fast kph is. Finnish HP aimed automatic weapon at me when I could not get the door open fast enough. I never paid the ticket.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 11:14 AM (bGceG)

66 Yeah, foreign people looking hasty and making quick movements are easily mistaken for some Russian smuglers. If you had had some drinks as well, you were actually in quite deep shit when stopped driving at a speed too high. Luckily, tickets in Finland are determined by how much money you have and how much you make money in a year, so you would probaply gotten away with it for a hundred euros or something.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 01:21 PM (lGolT)

67 AFINN: I see you're not one of the 5%. Ain't life a bitch. They took our slaves away. Replaced them with the minimum wage law. A liberal thing. They are still slaves but minimum wage employee sounds better to a moonbat. You have television in Finland? I quess that's another of your inventions. You know TV, Telephone, computer. By the way. Has Finland ever given anything to the rest of the world by way of invention? Or do you merely claim to be well educated but never had a first idea in your countries history? News for you chump. Supposed to be well educated claim doesn't hold water. What world renowned university is in Finland? Do foreign students beg, borrow and steal to get into your universities as they do in America. Talk about dogs. Take a look at your president. Talk about the big dog? That deserves a (2).

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 01:22 PM (CBNGy)

68 Senatus Populus Que Romanum (SPQR) Eat shit you little pussy squirt.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 01:39 PM (/+dAV)

69 AFINN: I sincerely hope you don't take comments about your country personal. Only Americans are not supposed to take offense when foreigners say derogatory things about their country. Please remember you came onto this American owned and operated Blog and immediately downgraded peoples religious preferences. Then you started in on America's policies. Next was our elected leaders. Discussiion is one thing. Degrating ones country is another. There is much wrong in America. Most of us will agree. Much of what our president is doing is suspect, excluding the war where I feel he is right on. Feel free to suggest, but keep your criticism until you can understand the complexity of America. Easy to throw stones when you sit by the wayside. Do nothing, you may no mistakes but get nowhere. Our young people are sacrificing themselves for what is right. Some are getting a feel ride in this war against Islamofacism. Not a proud thing. You have had much to say that I agree with. But your method sucks. Also you refuse to share.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 01:42 PM (CBNGy)

70 Actually, some Finnish inventions are quite famous. When Germans were offering military aid to the Valkoiset (whites, the right wing of that time) back when the Punaiset (reds, the left wing of that time) tried to start a communist system between the 2 WW:s, there was a later to be well known German man in that unit, who took quite an interrest in our way of handling the communist prisoners. Keskitysleiri, the consentration camp. Can't leave this with only bad things, we also have a Nobel prize winner, who invented a way to preserve grain for up to 10 times longer than what it could be preserved for before, the AIV, whatever it's name is in English. Of course, Nokia has invented all kinds of mobile phone models never before heard of... Anyway, "the Senate and the people of Rome"... perhaps you mean that Rome collapsed because it had become a wellfair state, that didn't pay attention to military threats? (No, I won't eat shit, thats just sick (or beyond kinky if you feel that stuff might actually be something sexual)) Actually, Europeans (not saying that I am not one) have started trying to get into Finland to study after we got first place in all things PISA examined and became some sort of a role model for their countries' education system development. And Esko Aho, a former Finnish prime minister, is actually a professor in either Yale or Harvard, teaching economics, so that makes me seriously concerned about the quality of your renowned university, even if that guy is an extremely skilled businessfellow, who managed to make the country profit from the eighties when all other countries were suffering of depression. And our current president IS most likely a mix of dog and bald rat, now we never have to have any women in charge. (When did I say Finns invented TV, computers and telephones (this one was Alexander Bell, I believe...)? Just said Nokia makes computers, and I got one instead of a Jap-comp or something made in India, that you call American computers) And greyrooster: Ok, I'll try finding some drugs for you if I happen to take a cruise ship to Estonia this summer. The war in Iraq could've been avoided by assassinating Saddam and having the UN send peacecorps (that would've been you and Finns, as we are usually more than happy to go on military missions approved by the UN, good practice, and since have no real enemies, casualties are low) to control the masses now lacking a leader. I don't like Bush, I think he only got elected since his daddy was a president before him, and now he is trying make himself a better man than his father was in handling the Middle East crisises, so he is doing what is right the wrong way (I think this guy was the only elected leader of yours I've mentioned). The attack on religion was later explained in the Pope is dead/dying thingie as an attempt to find out what God really was to the actual people living in a country, were religion effects everything. American policies are pretty much the same as which ones are running the show for the... 6, 5, 10, 12 years?, so basically that would be anti-Bush... or something like that. Nice going with making Arnold Schwartzenegger, made me want to go to California to check out the Terminator preaching about the importance of protecting the environment. Seriously, excellent. Shows that anyone famous enough can get immense power over a state, even if not born in US or Canada. Maybe I'll try to become the senator of Delaware once I... create a action-movie career or win American Idol on the year I'm running for senator.

Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:45 PM (lGolT)

71 A Finn: You answered my question about drugs. Do you drink heavily?

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 03:03 PM (x+5JB)

72 AND HE'S ONLY AN 8TH GRADER!!!!!!

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:04 PM (NzgK/)

73 Again, the best thing that came out of Finland is the Rapala, and only the shallow diving minnow is worth a damn. It was 100 Finnmarks for the fine, that was in '93.

Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 03:24 PM (niPww)

74 Two Finn hunters from Pori got a pilot to fly them to Inari to hunt Reindeer. They bagged 6. As they started loading the plane for the return trip,the pilot said the plane could only take 4 reindeer. The two Finns objected strongly. "Last year we shot 6,and the pilot let us put them all on board; he had the same plane as yours." Reluctantly, the pilot gave in and all 6 were loaded. However, even on full power, the little plane couldn't handle the load and went down a few moments after take-off. Climbing out of the wreck one Finn asked the other,"Any idea where we are?" "Yaaaah I think were pretty close to where we crashed last year.."

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:26 PM (NzgK/)

75 Brad: WHY FINNS CAN'T BE PARAMEDICS A couple of Finns are out in the woods hunting when one of them suddenly grabs his chest and falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing. His eyes are rolled back in his head. The other Finn whips out his cell phone and calls 911. He gasps to the operator, "I think Sven is dead! What should I do?" The operator, in a calm soothing voice says, "Just take it easy and follow my instructions. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence...... and then a shot is heard. The second Finn's voice comes back on the line, "Okay, now what?"

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:02 PM (x+5JB)

76 Brad: Hey, we have to keep the jokes clean around the kid.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:02 PM (x+5JB)

77 Ya know, I have a daughter about his age. Ya, lets keep it clean. He does seem pretty worldly though. I posted something above on the stripper band and he seemed to know quite a bit about it.(this was before I realized he was a kid).

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:09 PM (NzgK/)

78 Brad: I just told him to leave that story at once or I would tell his parents.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:13 PM (x+5JB)

79 I wonder if his parents like him.

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:29 PM (NzgK/)

80 brad: No new Finn posts in over five minutes. It must be beddie-bye time in Finland.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:39 PM (x+5JB)

81 Ya, he came up with soulutions to all the world's problems in his posts today, time to hit the hay.

Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:47 PM (NzgK/)

82 You have to hand it to the kid, he's got spunk.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:21 PM (SENte)

83 A FINN; When we speak of football, we are talking about real football. You know SUPERBOWL. Not soccer.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:30 PM (CBNGy)

84 A FINN: My compadrades and myself are just having a little fun. You did bring up some very enlightening things concerning your country. Attacking Arnold is low. The man is a hero. I'm not just speaking about the movies. I will be back in a few days. Hope to chat more with you then. I have a long drive to Venice, La. Gone fishing. We try to leave the dock at 4:00 AM. Tuna will be on the menu. Will be back when the fish quits biting or my back gives out. By the way. How do you get a one armed Finlander out of a tree? Wave to him.

Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:55 PM (CBNGy)

85 It was 11 pm, and I'm in my second year in lukio (high school, sixth grade in britain.. whatever) Why Sven? The halfswedes living by the coast don't hunt, they are pussies. And in that joke here the hunters are actually Texans... The easiest way to get a one armed Finn out of the tree... don't know, but the easiest way to drop a two armed Swede is to start singing " Life is life..." and he would clap his hands and go nanaanaanana...

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 03:58 AM (cWMi4)

86 That wasn't meant as an attack... Arnold Schwartzenegger is an example of a succesful Austrian getting very much power without any training in governing anything.

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:02 AM (cWMi4)

87 Bourbon: Don't drink much, only around Mayday, when my sahti from last years sima has gotten strong enough to mess up my guts. (bourbon means american whiskey, right?)

Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:05 AM (cWMi4)

88 Finn: Bourbon is a type of American whiskey, correct. And as Greyrooster points out, we are just kidding with you. You're abright lad. As I said before, your English is pretty good--better than that of some Americans. Take care!

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 12:38 PM (x+5JB)

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Jawapalooza Coming to Washington, D.C.

Your chance to meet the Rusty Shackleford will be soon if you live in and around our Washington, D.C. I will be there from May 14th to the 22nd. If you'd like to get together for a little shin-dig, some drinks, food, laughs, and maybe see the new Star Wars drop me a line at mypetjawa-at-gmail-dot-com.

Pimps and hoes, all invited!

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Pakistani Nuke Maker A.Q. Khan met Osama bin Laden

Holy freaking schneike! No, this doesn't mean bin Laden has the bomb. What it does mean is that state sponsors of terror, like Pakistan was (and to a lesser extent still is) have (or had) the motivation if not the means of passing on WMD to terrorist organizations.

Via Chad at In the Bullpen who has more analysis here. Sifi (Indian website):

Pakistani scientists Abdul Qadeer Khan and Sultan Bashiruddin Mehmood had held meetings with Osama bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda leaders, exchanged letters with militant organisations like the Lashkar-e-Toiba and attended their gatherings and rallies, a media report said.

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Scott Baio Thread

The people have spoken. We aims to please.

UPDATE: AS A CITIZEN JOURNALIST I DEMAND A SCOTT BAIO INTERVIEW!

Related.

Heh.

UPDATE II: What does Oliver Willis have that Scott Baio doesn't have. I mean, except for this? Or this. Or this. And then there's this. Oh and don't forget that.

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1 Oh, God, NO!!!

Posted by: Brad at April 05, 2005 04:24 PM (NzgK/)

2 Filthy: The populace is now on to the many talents of the thespian Scott Baio. I am therefore forced to reconsider our negotians regarding the trade of my fourth-class Scott Baio relic.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 05, 2005 06:46 PM (MVl0c)

3 Ohhhhhhhh.... (wackwackwackwackwackwack) ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Rusty(gasp).......drool....(pant)....(gulp) Thanks Dude.

Posted by: Happy FIlthy Allah at April 05, 2005 07:16 PM (37sN1)

4 HFA, Since your wishes carried out on this blog, any chance you can get a jones on for Terri Hatcher?

Posted by: Brad at April 05, 2005 07:21 PM (NzgK/)

5 Yeah, Terri. Freakin. Hatcher. Just don't tell me she's a Demecrat and your wish is my command!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 08:52 PM (ywZa8)

6 I have had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Hatcher. She lives in Lonton Terrace on 23rd and 9th. whack whack whack whack whack oHHHHHHHHHHH SCOTT BAIO FORGIVE MEEEEEE GOOOOOOOP!

Posted by: Filthy Allah at April 05, 2005 09:23 PM (37sN1)

7 Ok filthy. How about you doing that special thing in your pants at home? As for me, I can think of many non-homo-erotic reasons to worship at the feet of Baio. I mean, the dude gets chicks!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 09:27 PM (ywZa8)

8 MY EYES.....IT BURNS.....MY EYES!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Merri at April 05, 2005 09:47 PM (lK7Sh)

9 Filthy: As I stated, the original bargain is null and void. I am upping the ante for the 4th-class relic of the great thespian Scott Baio. Imagine the cloning possibilities with the DNA obtained from this tissue, which has been preserved in a climate-controlled safe since 1982. That's right--CLONING. Imagine a whole harem of Scott Baios, eager to do your depraved and perverse bidding. The ball is in your sandy court, Offendi.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 08:26 AM (x+5JB)

10 And may the spirit of the Great Fonze be with you.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 06, 2005 08:28 AM (x+5JB)

11 Filthy is the biggest Fag in the world.. He wishes he was Joanie so he could get Chachied up the ass. You're out of your league Filthy, stick (it) to Obsnooks.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 03:27 PM (/+dAV)

12 Rusty, Filthy called out your name while he was cumming. "Rusty(gasp).......drool....(pant)....(gulp) Thanks Dude." If I were you I take a long shower and scrub until I started bleeding just to get his "filth" off. I bet if you shined a blacklight at his keyboard it would blind you with all the glowing crusty gooop that must be on there.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 03:34 PM (/+dAV)

13 WOW GREG. You really do hate gay people. I thought you degenerate libs were inclusive but, i guess it is "do what i say" and "not what i do" with you nasty hate filled buggers. I support Filthy Allah and his love of Scott Baio and I support his freedom to do so which, you seem not to. Greg- Take your hate somewhere else cause, weees not buyin.

Posted by: obsnooks at April 06, 2005 04:01 PM (37sN1)

14 "I support Filthy Allah and his love of Scott Baio"-Obsnooks Hey I support you two also. I hope you're very happy together. The devil is in the details though.

Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 04:26 PM (/+dAV)

15 The great thespian Scott Baio would not approve of all this dissention on this post devoted to him.

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 08:24 AM (x+5JB)

16 Scott Biao is a lesbian? I didn''t know that.

Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 02:39 PM (/+dAV)

17 BAIO IN CHARGE OF NBC SITCOM by Nellie Andreeva, The Hollywood Reporter (December 27, 2004) "Former teen heartthrob Scott Baio (Happy Days, Charles-in-Charge) takes charge of another sitcom, playing a fortysomething smart guy who moves in with a twentysomething upstart and turns his life upside down. This yet untitled comedy project from HBO Independent Productions and Tagline Productions has already received a script commitment from NBC. Emmy winning writer-producer Jace Richdale (The Simpsons) is on board as executive-producer together with Blake McCormack who is penning the pilot episode." More news to come later on.

Posted by: the arcolytes at April 26, 2005 11:21 PM (5IbBd)

18 GLENN LOVELL, THE SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS: "Scott Baio, best-known as Chachi from TV's 'Happy Days' is wonderful as Dominic, the bakery owner who's stretched dangerously thin with a corporate day job......Overall, 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' rises to the occasion and warms the heart while whetting the appetite. Moreover, it reminds us that Baio, who was terrific in 'Bugsy Malone' and 'Foxes' before being helplessly typecast by 'Happy Days', belongs on the big screen. In his scenes with love interest Kristen Minter and especially Rosemary Prinz's immigrant mother, Scott Baio exhibits a rugged charm that so far has eluded the likes of Tom Cruise and Ben Affleck."

Posted by: the arcolytes at April 28, 2005 11:28 PM (KKLUF)

19 PHIL HALL, FILM THREAT: "The real surprise in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', of course, is Scott Baio. Forget (if you can) his sitcom past and enjoy a deep rich performance here. Baio perfectly captures the anguish and anxieties of a man being pulled in multiple directions and by different expectations. Whether living the role of a Fortune 500 executive or speaking with serene understanding among his problematic brothers, Baio invests the role with an emotional versatility that has never been seen in any of his previous performances. In small moments when his parallel worlds overlap, such as a boardroom meeting where he places a handful of macadamia nuts on a table and comments on their effectiveness in baking, Scott Baio comes alive with a subtle depth that clearly states what a truly fine actor he is."

Posted by: the arcolytes at May 06, 2005 09:43 PM (HNs/x)

20 JAMES VERNIERE, THE BOSTON HERALD: "Scott Baio, still best known for his fresh-faced adolescent stint on 'Happy Days', gives an impressively soulful, genuinely romantic and, for lack of a better word, masculine performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' - one that should persuade the industry to take another look at him."

Posted by: the arcolytes at May 13, 2005 11:21 PM (a2oO7)

21 WES BENNETT, DR. MOVIE MOVIE : "I cannot stress enough what a great performance Scott Baio gives in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He was perfect for the role and no big name actor could have done it any better. His charisma is vital to making Lucca and Dominic's relationship develop in a realistic and moving way."

Posted by: the arcolytes at May 20, 2005 11:41 PM (xi1rp)

22 FRANK SCHECK, THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: "Scott Baio, whose role as television's Chachi has forever doomed him to trivia-game-answer status, delivers a highly effective and restrained performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' as Dominic Pyzola, a young Italian-American who divides his working time between serving as a ruthless acquisitions executive for a big corporation and baking biscotti in the family bakery that he also manages."

Posted by: the arcolytes at June 02, 2005 11:39 PM (Z7SzD)

23 JONATHAN CURIEL, THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE: "Realistic dialogue and convincing performances, especially by Rosemary Prinz and Scott Baio, give 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' it's soul. The film is at it's most powerful in tight quarters when for example Baio's Dominic asks Massimo for Lucca's hand in marriage. Scott Baio looks away, nervous but almost expressionless, during the conversation which is stripped of any affectation or Hollywood dressing up."

Posted by: the arcolytes at June 10, 2005 11:23 PM (s2GpE)

24 JOHN MONAGHAN, THE DETROIT FREE PRESS: "Park the 'Charles In Charge' wisecracks at the door because Scott Baio is truly the best thing going for 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. Director Melissa Martin gets a solid performance out of Baio."

Posted by: the arcolytes at June 17, 2005 12:03 AM (E2afK)

25 ED JOHNSON-OTT, NUVO.NET: "In the lead role, Scott Baio is a revelation. The veteran star of 'Happy Days' and 'Charles In Charge' has grown into a fine actor, anchoring 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' with a terrific performance."

Posted by: the arcolytes at June 24, 2005 09:04 PM (NJYG3)

26 ROBERT HORTON, AMAZON.COM EDITORIAL REVIEW: "And in an image-changing turn, former kid star Scott Baio delivers a terrific assured performance. Its the biggest surprise in a sweet movie, 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'."

Posted by: the arcolytes at July 08, 2005 11:17 PM (CN2It)

27 BILL O'DRISCOLL, THE PITTSBURGH CITY PAPER: "Perhaps the biggest surprise in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', to those who know only his string of sitcoms, will be Scott Baio. He delivers a mature, grounded performance and is wholly believable as a man gropingly trying to figure out how he screwed up what's most important in his life."

Posted by: the arcolytes at July 15, 2005 11:32 PM (rEjFv)

28 MARGARET A. MCGURK, THE CINCINATTI ENQUIRER: "The story of 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' centers on Dominic, played with a nice blend of confidence and vulnerability by Scott Baio, a young executive who is making a bundle in the mergers and acquisitions business."

Posted by: the arcolytes at July 22, 2005 11:23 PM (6ufe7)

29 CHICAGO METROMIX: "All the acting is good in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', especially Scott Baio who looks and plays to perfection the role of a type-A businessman with a secret heart."

Posted by: the arcolytes at July 29, 2005 11:19 PM (toGLx)

30 BOB LONGINO, THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION: "Scott Baio, who plays a part-time baker and full-time corporate big wig, is quite good in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He exudes a naturalism, a compelling conviction that gives depth and meaning to the lines he delivers."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 08, 2005 11:31 PM (rkF5/)

31 JOHN NICCUM, LAWRENCE.COM: "Former sitcom veteran Scott Baio is terrific in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'. He shifts effortlessly between manipulative and sincere, especially when pitching his idea for the marriage to Lucca."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 19, 2005 12:16 AM (nhJgf)

32 JIM LANE. SACRAMENTO NEWS AND REVIEWS: "Scott Baio in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' still looks younger than his 42 years but he's definitely outgrown Chachi from 'Happy Days' and has a warm, mature screen presence."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 19, 2005 12:39 AM (nhJgf)

33 ERIC MENDER, FILM JOURNAL: "Scott Baio gives a surprisingly deep and convincing performance in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 21, 2005 11:39 PM (b1zeQ)

34 THE POPKORN JUNKIES: "Scott Baio is fantastic in 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', one of his first major film roles."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 21, 2005 11:47 PM (b1zeQ)

35 MICHAEL O'SULLIVAN, THE WASHINGTON POST: "BAIO'S AT HIS BEST IN 'BREAD'" "Believe it or not, this little charmer is better than its half-pretentious, half-gooey title might lead you to believe. As long as you don't think too much, the movie - a sleeper hit in Pittsburgh, where it is set - just might win you over with its tale of a biscotti baker-cum-mergers and acquisitions exec (Scott Baio) who sets out to marry a virtual stranger he doesn't even initially like (Kristen Minter) just to make a dying old woman (Rosemary Prinz) happy. Up until the disappointing Hollywood-style ending, the movie feels about as atypical as they come, and that's a good thing. None of the Italian-Americans around whom writer-director Melissa Martin's sweet story centers, for instance, have Mafia connections, nor are they the sort of garlic-eating, wildly gesticulating caricatures found in so many commercials for marinara sauce. BAIO SIMPLY SHINES AS DOMINIC, the romance-impaired friend of an elderly couple who lives above his bakery and whose preposterous marriage proposal to their daughter Lucca (Minter) comes when he learns that the woman who has treated him like a son is terminally ill. It's obviously a little hard to believe, but Baio and Minter, who plays a kind of bruised soul to Baio's romantic cripple, add plausability to the transaction, which begins as a business deal and grows into something more. Enriched by a strong and unforced supporting cast, 'Bread' nourishes the heart, even if its fairy-tale ending feels tacked on and unnecessary."

Posted by: the arcolytes at August 28, 2005 11:40 PM (CN2It)

36 COLIN COVERT, STAR TRIBUNE: "SCOTT BAIO SURPRISES IN 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET'" "Scott Baio, movie star? Yes, Scott Baio from 'Happy Days', 'Joanie Loves Chachi' and 'Charles in Charge'. Hold the snickers, please, and see 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET', a micro-budgeted indie romance that is receiving national distribution thanks to the sleeper success of 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'. While it should appeal to the folks who have pushed Nia Vardalos' family farce past the $ 200 million mark, 'The Bread' is the better film of the two by a long shot. It's also a sweet ethnic romance, but warmer and more poignant, without the cardboard stereotypes and too-broad humor. Baio, now a handsome 40-year-old, plays Dominic, a workaholic corporate takeover artist. Cleaning out 'dead-wood' employees is lucrative but not fulfilling for the soul. For that he turns to his hobby job, running a Pittsburgh biscotti bakery staffed by his brothers, an incorrigible skirt-chaser and a slow-witted pastry savant. The shop, a haven of intoxicating smells and humane warmth, seduces him, and he astonishes his colleagues by quitting the world of high finance to work there full-time. There's another appeal to the bakery: the elderly Italian couple who live one floor up. Dominic is enchanted by Bella (soap-opera veteran Rosemary Prinz), a warm, maternal type who treats the brothers like her sons. Bella's greatest regret is that her daughter Lucca, a Peace Corps vagabond, hasn't settled down to start a family of her own. For reasons that can't be revealed here, Dom contacts Lucca (Kristen Minter of 'ER') and uses his corporate dealmaking savvy to convince her to answer Bella's prayers. In a benevolent deception, they will marry so Bella's worries can be put to rest. The idea is a hokey comic contrivance, but the film, directed and written by Pittsburgh playwright Melissa Martin, treats the details of the agreement with full seriousness. It never takes easy shortcuts on the way to its touching conclusion. Dominic's transformation from corporate shark to a good, big-hearted man - 'a piece of bread' in Italian slang - is unforced and entirely credible. 'THE BREAD, MY SWEET' is a warm and satisfying treat. Anyone who can resist its charms is a crusty character indeed."

Posted by: the arcolytes at September 04, 2005 11:54 PM (/oxi4)

37 For the official record, "THE BREAD, MY SWEET" (a.k.a. "A WEDDING FOR BELLA") captured the top accolades (best feature film and/or audience favorite) in the Santa Monica, Stony Brook, Marco Island, Houston Worldfest and Iowa Hardacre film festivals. For his critically-acclaimed lead performance as Dominic in this movie, SCOTT BAIO victoriously earned three (3) prizes: Best Actor in the Atlantic City Film Festival, Best Actor in the San Diego Film Festival and the Silver Screen Award for Achievement in Acting at the Kansas City Halfway To Hollywood Film Festival.

Posted by: the arcolytes at September 10, 2005 09:19 PM (99COg)

38 CHACHI GETS "ARRESTED" "The masterminds of 'Arrested Development' have tapped Scott Baio to take over as the madcap Bluth family's new legal counsellor during season 3. Henry Winkler, who's starring in his own CBS series 'Out Of Practice' this fall, likely won't be around to continue his recurring role as incompetent lawyer Barry Zuckercorn in the FOX sitcom. So with the Fonz no longer available, the Emmy-winning show is turning to Charles-in-Charge. FOX confirms that Baio, who played Fonzie's young cousin Chachi for several years on 'Happy Days', will guest-star as another lawyer retained by the Bluth family to deal with their myriad legal problems. Thus far, he is set for just one episode playing a character named Bob Loblaw. 'I got the call on Friday,' Scott tells E! Online TV columnist Kristin Veitch. 'I play their new attorney who's taking over for Barry. And I'm just there to represent the family in whatever's going on in this nutty show.' Baio's character will have some pretty low standards to live down to. In two years of 'Arrested Development', Winkler as Zuckercorn has managed to stay employed despite utterly inept lawyering and potentially deviant behavior. Scott Baio's casting extends the 'Happy Days' lineage of 'Arrested Development' that includes Ron Howard (erstwhile Richie Cunningham) who produces the series through his Imagine Entertainment and also serves as the show's deadpan narrator as well as Henry Winkler who's appeared in more than a dozen episodes over the past two seasons." (September 6 and 7, 2005 courtesy of ZAPZIT TV NEWS and E! ONLINE NEWS.)

Posted by: the arcolytes at September 18, 2005 11:41 PM (dHDRZ)

39 TAOS TALKING PICTURE FESTIVAL REVIEW: "Director Ellie Kanner makes her feature film debut with 'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES'), a rollicking story of fathers and sons. Scott Baio makes a very welcome return to the screen as Richie, the affable ringleader who proves the perfect foil to his cousins: wisecracking Philly (Thomas Calabro) and the chronically negative Al (Carlo Imperato). Dean Stockwell is at his cigar-chomping, exasperated best as Richie's father who dresses down his own brothers Phil (Alex Rocco) and Charlie (Joe Viterelli). In its gently comedic way, 'FACE TO FACE' proves that you don't have to see eye-to-eye to love each other."

Posted by: the arcolytes at October 04, 2005 11:42 PM (E1old)

40 CHRIS GORE, THE TOP 1O INDEPENDENT FILMS WITHOUT DISTRIBUTION, FILM THREAT: "Director Ellie Kanner brings Scott Baio's script to life. Yeah, I know what you're thinking - Scott frickin' Baio - funny thing is this father/son comedy is touching and Baio's damn good as the lead. Dean Stockwell's performance brought tears to the eyes of audiences who saw it on the festival circuit. It's a damn shame 'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES') is collecting dust since this movie is a check just waiting to be cashed."

Posted by: the arcolytes at October 16, 2005 11:16 PM (rASZ3)

41 DOUG BRUNELL, FILM THREAT: "'FACE TO FACE' (a.k.a. 'ITALIAN TIES') is all about fathers, sons and the problems men have in communicating with one another. It goes from amusing to deeply sentimental in the blink of an eye, but never feels forced, and it definitely ranks as one of the better films to tackle the subject of what it means to be a man in American society. It's no 'Fight Club' though, despite the fact that Meat Loaf has a brief scene. Richie (Scott Baio) and his two cousins have lost their grandfather, and they don't want to lose their dads without getting to know them. Their fathers (played by Dean Stockwell, Alex Rocco and Joe Viterelli) are the iconic Italian patriarchs; emotions besides anger rarely appear, and they feel life must be suffered in silence while providing for those who depend on them. Their sons (Baio, Thomas Calabro and Carlo Imperato) are a bit more modern in their approach to life. They want to hear about their fathers' ambitions, and they need to bond, though they often don't realize it. The boys' solution: kidnap their fathers and take them on a camping trip. For all its comedic moments, 'FACE TO FACE' raises some serious questions. Namely, if men teach by example, what are we teaching our male children? How much rage can a person hold back before it explodes into a heart attack? At what point do you get the courage to tell your father you love him? And why do so many men hate their fathers only to end up acting just like them? (There's something very Nietzsche-like in that.) This movie doesn't answer all those questions, but it attempts a discussion, which is something most men won't even venture toward even with the specter of death looming overhead. In other words: Don't plan on seeing this with your father, but do see it. It just may help you understand the man you'll become."

Posted by: the arcolytes at October 25, 2005 11:40 PM (VPcHD)

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Google is the 'Beast', Al Gore the 'Antichrist'

The Unpopulist reports that Google has put his site up for sale.

My theory? more...

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Taliban Kills 3 Truckers (Calling all Hackers!)

The Taliban is back online. Their site is here, and it's in English. Calling all hackers!

Today the Taliban announced they had killed three truckers near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. Way to go Taliban! We see your taking on the big fish these days. What, no women or children to murder?

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