- Times Online

THE Pentagon is considering forming hit squads of Kurdish and Shia fighters to target leaders of the Iraqi insurgency in a strategic shift borrowed from the American struggle against left-wing guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago.

Under the so-called “El Salvador option”, Iraqi and American forces would be sent to kill or kidnap insurgency leaders, even in Syria, where some are thought to shelter.

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Iyad Allawi, the interim Iraqi Prime Minister, was said to be one of the most vigorous supporters of the plan.

The Pentagon declined to comment, but one insider told Newsweek: “What everyone agrees is that we can’t just go on as we are. We have to find a way to take the offensive against the insurgents. Right now, we are playing defence. And we are losing.”

Hit squads would be controversial and would probably be kept secret.

One of the things that has frustrated me, and I'm sure many more, about Iraq is that we are playing defense instead of actively searching out terrorist strongholds. It may not be this way entirely, but that is the way it seems. Some of this can be attributed to diverse objectives in Iraq. Our primary goal is to bring Democracy to the region, but in order to do this many things must fall in line including helping to rebuild/build infrastructure. There are different groups inside the U.S. military assigned to building for instance, however from an outsider's perspective it appears that we are on the sidelines more than on the front lines aggressively seeking out those that harm and kill U.S. soldiers and Iraqis.

Thankfully this isn't always the case as we saw raids into Fallujah, raids accross the entire Sunni Triangle and raids following the Mosul Mess Hall bombing, however I often question how often the U.S. military is out looking for terrorists rather than responding to calls or terrorist attacks.

In theory alone, the 'Death Squads' would be charged with finding those who operate the attacks and I do hope the area of operations includes those outside of Iraq itself. This could be a drastic improvement in tactics and should allow for increased intelligence because the 'Death Squads' would be Iraqis, therefore have a better layout of the land and better connect with the people who have information to share.

The article makes a brief mention of anti-American hostility the death squads in Nicaragua caused that I am unaware of. Perhaps a reader can share some inside knowledge on this?

Update:
The Newsweek article on Death Squads can be found here, though there isn't really much more to it that I learned from the Newsweek article. I have however talked, via email, with a former member of the CIA who was directly involved in training the Death Squads in Nicaragua. Obviously the identity of this person will remain confidential.

From what I was told, the Death Squad consisted of only Nicaraguans to carry out the missions but were trained by the CIA and U.S. Special Forces. Members of this group were not necessarily Contras, and they lived primarily inside of Nicaragua carrying out their regular day jobs but participated in searching out and capturing or killing leaders of the opposing forces at night.

When I asked why this option was a good option in Nicaragua and why it would be a good one in Iraq, the former agent told me the following (punctuation and spelling corrected):

. . . in Nicaragua the United States military had only a small force and they were covert. We couldn't send in a large number of soldiers until war was declared and we could not enter other countries where some of the ringleaders operated out of. This same scenario is happening in Iraq where some leadership of the insurgency is directed out of neighboring countries of Iraq and the United States military cannot enter these nations without approval. The Death Squad is only loosely tied to the United States so they can do what they please.

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It seems like a daily posting concering an Iraqi official, National Guardsman or police officer being assassinated in Iraq. Unfortunately today is no exception.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The deputy police chief of Baghdad and his son, also a police officer, were assassinated Monday, an interior ministry official said.

Brig. Amer Ali Nayef and his son, Lt. Khalid Amer, were gunned down in Baghdad's south Dora district while traveling in a car on their way to work, said a spokesman for the ministry, Capt. Ahmed Ismail.

- Associated Press

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- Associated Press

RAMALLAH, West Bank - Mahmoud Abbas was elected Palestinian Authority president by a wide margin Sunday, exit polls showed, giving him a decisive mandate to renew peace talks with Israel, rein in militants and try to end more than four years of Mideast bloodshed.

The victory of the staid and pragmatic Abbas, who has spoken out against violence and has the backing of the international community, was expected to usher in a new era, after four decades of chaotic and corruption-riddled rule by Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) who died Nov. 11.

"We, the Palestinians, are drawing our future with our own hands. We will be the symbol of democracy and freedom," said Aya Abdel Kader, 45, a lawyer voting at a Gaza City school.

Abbas, popularly known as Abu Mazen, has promised to reform the Palestinian Authority, overhaul the unwieldy Palestinian security services and quickly resume negotiations with Israel, stalled for four years.

However, his political objectives are the same as Arafat's: a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, and a solution for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.

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Following up on the success of the Oil-For-Food program, Coordinator Kofi can now take credit for an Eggs-For-Sex peacekeeper program. The Eastern Congo is the backdrop where UN Forces are relying upon hunger to fuel the entrepreneurial spirit in girls as young as 13 to trade sex for eggs. According to the Straits Times:

United Nations peacekeepers in eastern Congo traded eggs, milk and cash for sex with girls and women they were sent to protect, an investigation showed.

They had sex with girls as young as 13 inside guard posts, in rundown shelters, in the bushes around military camps, or on bare ground under trees, normally just after dark, said the UN on Friday.

Many of the girls had already been raped during the civil war. Some had been left to fend for themselves after their families were killed in the war and were desperate for food and money.

'Hunger has encouraged children to try to make contact with members of the UN mission's troops,' the UN Office of Internal Oversight Services said after investigating 72 separate allegations in the town of Bunia between May and September 2004.

Boys aged between eight and 18 years living on the streets or in refugee camps acted as pimps, facilitating access to girls for US$1 (S$1.70) or a handful of food.

[ ... ]

Many of the soldiers involved are likely to go unpunished due to a lack of evidence while others had already moved on from Congo. Under the UN rules, the troops' home country rather than the world body is responsible for punishing them.

And, there's the beauty of Kofi's coordinating. It's the classic "Bayonet the wounded after the battle is over" ploy. Nobody is culpable because the UN has no rules governing their coordinating activities. Consequently, just like the Oil-For-Food program, no crimes were committed in the eyes of the UN and Kofi keeps on coordinating.

It's not exactly clear how the UN Secretary General will apply his skills in the aftermath of the South Asian tsunami disaster, but it's rumored that a Medicine-For-Cash program is being coordinated. You've got to hand it to the Great Coordinator. Not since Attila the Hun has anyone so successfully put the "P's" in plunder and pillage.

All along, the world has been fooled into thinking the UN has been a peacekeeper when, in reality, it's been a "P's" keeper.

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- Novnite

US-led multinational forces have detained a key leader in the Muslim militant network in Iraq headed by al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the U.S. military said Saturday. Abdul Aziz Sa'dun Ahmed Hamduni, also known as Abu Ahmed, had also served as the deputy of the top Mosul militant leader identified as Abu Talha, the statement said. "Abu Ahmed admitted to receiving money and weapons from Abu Talha as well as coordinating and conducting terrorist attacks in Mosul, the statement said. It said Hamduni was detained on December 22. "The capture of Abu Ahmed, and the subsequent capture of Abu Marwan on 23 December, show significant progress in the inevitable destruction of the Abu Talha-led Al-Qaeda-Zarqawi terrorist network in Mosul," said U.S. Brig. Gen. Erwin Lessel, spokesman for Multi-National Forces-Iraq, in the statement. Earlier in the week the Emirate newspaper al-Bayane reported that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, declared "target number one in Iraq" by the US authorities, has been arrested in the city of Baakuba.

Perhaps the greatest terrorist arrest in the past year was that of Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, a computer and communications expert operating inside of Pakistan. Following the arrest of Khan, the CIA found and broke Al Qaida's code, arrested several other Al Qaida operatives, found out Al Qaida was contacting sleeper cells in the United States and England arrested more than eight connected to a plot inside of England. Clearly the arrest of only one terrorist led to a treasure trove of information.

While the arrest of Zarqawi would presumably lead to the arrest of Abu Ahmed. If Zarqawi has not been captured, it could very well work in reverse. Each time a terrorist is arrested rather than killed, it is a far greater accomplishment based upon the intelligence that can be gathered from the captured terrorist. The intelligence can save lives as well as help the U.S. and Coallition forces find and capture more terrorists.

Cross-posted at In the Bullpen

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There are certain things you just don't do while traveling abroad. Take for instance these few scenarios.

You don't go to France and ask for California wine. You don't travel to China and remove a piece of the Great Wall. You don't go to Greece and tell every single Greek Alexander was gay. Never go to the cape South Africa and swim with blood-stained clothes in the ocean.

These sound like common sense to me. You risk offending the natives, being arrested and dying. When you travel, you just have to realize you are going to a different culture with possibly a different set of rules to abide by than your own.

Well, this guy just doesn't understand.

A BACKPACKER, believed to be from Queensland, is in a police lockup in a remote area of Argentina, facing a possible jail term for allegedly desecrating the country's flag.

The incident allegedly happened at a wine bar in Ushuaia, a town on the South American nation's southern tip that is a base for tourists travelling to Antarctica.

The 28-year-old Australian, a British man and a South African are in police custody.

Witnesses said the tourists were drunk when they saw the flag hanging outside the bar, opened a window to tear it down and then left and trampled it outside before throwing it in a bin.

Other tourists called police who arrested the trio.

What a moron. I don't agree that he should be in jail if it is for desecrating the flag, if it's for disorderly conduct or moronic behavior, then he deserves to be there.

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- FoxNews

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraq's Interior Ministry has launched a search operation for a missing French journalist and her translator, a ministry official said, amid a possible witness account that they were abducted in downtown Baghdad.

Florence Aubenas, a reporter for the daily newspaper Liberation, and translator Hussein Hanoun al-Saadi were last seen Wednesday morning leaving Aubenas' hotel in the Iraqi capital.

The Interior Ministry official said that so far they have no information or leads on their whereabouts.

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- Boston.com

BERLIN -- Islamic extremists accused of plotting to kill Iraq's prime minister in Germany are smuggling battle-hardened fighters from Iraq to Europe, raising a potential new terrorist threat on the continent, according to German officials.

More than 20 alleged supporters of Ansar al-Islam have been arrested in Europe in the past year as authorities move against the group that has links with al-Qaida and Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who's been leading bloody attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq.

Ansar al-Islam is suspected of spiriting dozens of fired-up young Muslims to Iraq to join the insurgency, but the latest raids in Germany -- the most spectacular yet against the group -- heightened concerns that the organization also could pose a menace outside Iraq, too.

Whether Europe realizes it or not, and I would presume they do not as of yet, Europe is fast-becomming a radical islamic breeding ground and hotspot. We all know of the brutal attack on Dutch filmaker Theo Van Gough in the Netherlands. What is next? Could the recent upswing in anti-semetic grafiti and vandalism in France be a signal the islmofacists have already taken root in France as well?

Cross-posted at In the Bullpen

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I know this is wrong to kick a man while he's down and out for the count, but I just can't help it.

DAMASCUS, Syria - Former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry met Saturday with Syria's president and said he was hopeful that strained U.S.-Syrian relations could be improved, provided Washington seized "a moment of opportunity" currently available in the Middle East.

- AP

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- Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Militants abducted three senior Iraqi officials, beheaded a man who worked for the U.S. military and killed at least four others, officials said Saturday, a day after a U.S. general warned that insurgents may be planning "horrific" attacks ahead of Jan. 30 elections.

[snip]

Authorities in Saddam's hometown of Tikrit said Saturday that gunmen abducted a deputy governor of a central Iraqi province and two other senior officials as they traveled to meet with Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's most prominent Shiite leader, in the holy city of Najaf to discuss national elections.

The delegation was stopped and the members kidnapped about 40 miles south of Baghdad on Friday. The area is in the so-called "triangle of death," a string of Sunni-controlled towns that have been the scene of frequent attacks.

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About 400 miles south of Guam, a Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine, USS San Francisco, ran aground during submerged operations. The U.S. Navy reports that one sailor is critically injured. The boat is on the surface underway toward Guam, its home port, with no apparent damage to the reactor plant.

A simple look at the map indicates that the water in the described location is miles deep. It sure doesn't seem possible for a submarine to hit bottom unless there was an uncharted seamount or the sub was operating close to an island.

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by Demosophist

This practice, and it's justification, recounted by The Bullpen just disgusts me:

An Associated Press photographer sat by while terrorists threw grenades at a car carrying Iraqi election officials and then executed them. Sure, the AP photographer would not be able to stop the attack nor should they, however they should not be in bed with the terrorists operating to defeat Democracy in Iraq.

The Associated Press has helped pave the way in calling those that commit terrorist attacks militants, rebels or insurgents. While terrorists behead innocents, strap explosives to their waists and attack innocent Iraqis or target Coallition soldiers with IEDs, the AP only refers to them as a pest. The AP has tried to explain this by saying their reporters could be placed in harmÂ’s way while they interviewed terrorists if they called them terrorists.

So, apparently all the child molesters need to do to get more sympathetic coverage is to start making credible threats to kill a few journalists. What'll they be called I wonder, the "alternatively age preferenced?" Does anyone besides terrorists and sociopaths really need a press like this? (Hat tip: Chad )

(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia and Anticipatory Retaliation)

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Global Terror Alert has found and made available for download several new terrorist propoganda videos. They are the following:

1. Roadside bomb video
2. Suicide bomb video
3. Reading of the will by the Mosul mess hall suicide bomber video

All videos are courtesy of Global Terror Alert, which is run by terrorism expert Evan F. Kohlmann.

Also available for download is the communique from the Islamic Army in Iraq concerning the before-posted threat of attacks inside the United States. One interesting statement in the communique is the following line:

The killing and torturing and attacking and even the way they speak with other people; their eating and drinking habits, and the way they walk and the way they refuse respect the law - all these images made Muslims more certain about the savageness of this nation and its far cry from civilization.

Sorry, I don't have access to add images to Rusty's site and I've got mine protected from leechers who have stolen bandwidth at an alarming rate. You'll have to click over to see the graphic.

These victims were shot execution style and/or beheaded. What were their crimes? From 12 O'clock clockwise, the Macedonians were truck drivers trying to feed their families, the two photos on the bottom were Kurdish politicians, the man about to be shot is an alleged spy and the man in the middle was an Italian journalists.

This is only a small fraction of the barbaric attrocities the Islamic Army in Iraq has committed, yet we are the ones who are uncivilized according to them. As much as I overuse this phrase, I can think of nothing better. Nuts!

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1 Told ya - seen tons of them. How do you brainwash someone into doing this? stupid people Cindy

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 07, 2005 10:16 PM (D39Vm)

2 I hate that damn music and singing; it's auto on Zarqawi's laptop, so the man is still alive and working. He loves making these propaganda videos. Now if you go to Global Alert, you'll hear the normal music they usually sing - drives me bananas. These people are very adept computerwise and can download and upload through our own satellites. Too bad he wasn't caught in the tsunami's!!! This is his work - and then he adds the pictures or the execution. I've been following since Nick Berg - I found his murder first when no one else can. Several caused me to hurl. You do know that Nick Berg did not have to die. He was working for Global Security and was finished and back home in the US. He decided to go back there on his own (dumb) without papers because working there, he could make TONS of money per hour, so he goes back. The police pick him up in northern Iraq, the FBI checks him out, checks out his family, release him with an offer of a flight to Baghdad and then home because it was too dangerous. He declined the offer and the last anyone saw of him is when he walked out of the police station. Then we see him on video - shocked. If you turn up the video, you hear his surprise and his screaming. I think we should get out the good guys and nuke the rest of the bastards. ~C

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 07, 2005 10:29 PM (D39Vm)

3 Chad, you can never overuse that phrase or any phrase that tells it like it is... Cindy

Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 08, 2005 12:01 AM (D39Vm)

4 I think terrorism is becoming a way of life to many in the mid east. Beats working. They are supplied with money, weapons, places to live, comradship, a pat on the back, praise, etc: Coupled with the inferiority complexes rampant among these people. It's easy to see why young men find terrorism attractive. When a religion calls killers heros/marytrs what can be expected? This is why I have always said Islam is at the heart of it. If Catholics/protestants/buddists, whatever, called for a holy war in the name of God the same thing would happen. There's always some nuts out there who will take advantage of the situation to further their own desires/sick needs. I kill you in the name of God who is all good and merciful. Again, beats working for a living. Exciting, interesting, profitable. Killing and getting praised for it, and you don't even have to be brave about it. Cowardice is rewarded, cruelity is rewarded. Blow up innocent children, no problem god will take them to heaven and give them 72 virgins. 150,00 killed by natural catastrophe. Why, because infidels fornicated in that country. Islam sucks. Yea, Yea we all know a muslim thats a nice person. Bullshit. If he's stupid enough to follow these teachings he's to stupid to be among civilized people.

Posted by: greyrooster at January 08, 2005 06:47 AM (ccnRW)

5 The Islamic Army has obviously been learning from Mike Moore and Sen Barbara Boxer.

Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 08, 2005 07:59 AM (tHUgl)

6 When an enemy is identified, go back and take everything his family has. Throw them into the street and make it a crime to give them assistance.

Posted by: Gene 6-Pack at January 08, 2005 09:32 AM (7XPVo)

7 'All videos are courtesy of Global Terror Alert, which is run by terrorism expert Evan F. Kohlmann.' Is there a way to look at that website without the music coming on? its annoying.

Posted by: actus at January 08, 2005 04:55 PM (YxF4W)

8 I am a first Nation's person an "Indian". I do not condone the acts of the u.s. or the insurgents but I do know and agree with the claims that the u.s. is an un-civilized nation. 300 hundred years of slavery , nation building through genocide. This is the u.s. legacy. Not much has changed. Ignore history and what do you get?, more slaughter.

Posted by: Nationalist at January 09, 2005 11:41 AM (1YhLA)

9 Before everyone sounds off and slams me for saying something that shows the u.s. in a bad light I suggest you crack open a history book and read your owm past. It is no better than a muslim history here is a little known american "law" that illustrates your barborous past, Proclamation issued in 1755 "Given at the Council Chamber in Boston this third day of November 1755 in the twenty-ninth year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Second by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Iceland, King Defender of the Faith. By His Honour's command J. Willard, Secry. God Save the King Whereas the tribe of Penobscot Indians have repeatedly in a perfidious manner acted contrary to their solemn submission unto his Majesty long since made and frequently renewed. I have therefore, at the desire of the House of Representatives ... thought fit to issue this Proclamation and to declare the Penobscot Tribe of Indians to be enimies, rebels, and traitors to his Majesty. And I do hereby require his Majesty's subjects of the Province to embrace all opportunities of pursuing, captivating, killing, and destroy all and every one of the aforesaid Indians. And wereas the General Court of this Province have voted that a bounty.... be granted and allowed to be paid out of the Province Treasury.... The premiums of bounty following viz: For every scalp of a male Indian brought in as evidence of their being killed as aforesaid, forty pounds. For every scalp of such female Indian or male Indian under the age of twelve years that shall be killed and brought in as evidence of their being killed as aforesaid, twenty pounds. "

Posted by: Nationalist at January 09, 2005 11:50 AM (1YhLA)

10 That also included bears, wolves and other vermin that could not get along with civilized people. I sure the whites struck first. Probably, got off the boat, gave Indians steel, horses, cooking pots and such and then without reason started killing them. Ya, sure, you backward jerk. You still haven't evolved. Evolution continues on, whether you like it or not. Now go figure out how to make a wheel. Your people never could. Indians spent their time killing each other. When they shifted to killing white people we put a stop to it. The reason there's more indians in America now than ever. The white man. Sick of backward shits blaming everything bad on white people. News for you, everything good comes from white people. What in recent history has any other race contributed? Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. Jealous, Jealous, Jealous.

Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2005 07:47 AM (paXpx)

11 We owe our lives to the arabs who gave us algebra, mathematics, medicine, geology, chemistry astronomy, thelogy etc etc etc etc etc..The list is endless. Even the rennaisonce was mostly due to the arabs. Remember, no algebra means the west still living in the dark ages sleeping on straws next to pigs and dogs..The arabs gave the largely ignorant Europe the will and reason to live and to aspire to new heights..thanks to the arabs..they also rejuvinated our judaic religios traditions and we conformed to their standards during the 14-17 century.We owe our very existence to the muhammadans..Read history and you will see dear brother.. Our energies need to focus on the power of the bankers and policy makers who are handing us over to the antichrist without us ever blinking..Our eyes are focused on the wrong target..As you will soon see.. Peace

Posted by: Ben arion at February 09, 2005 08:52 PM (QYXlO)

12 Mr Nationalist from Serves You Right. This Samuari Sword is for you. ( am a first Nation's person an "Indian". I do not condone the acts of the u.s. or the insurgents but I do know and agree with the claims that the u.s. is an un-civilized nation. 300 hundred years of slavery , nation building through genocide. This is the u.s. legacy. Not much has changed. Ignore history and what do you get?, more slaughter. Posted by: Nationalist at January 9, 2005 11:41 AM ) You are truly sad and delusional. in 38 years of life I have discovered that people from Ivy League schools and the most ignorant field workers seem to posses the same amount of stupidity and ignorance. You whine about 300 years of Slavery and nation building thru genocide in America, but I can recount 3000 plus years of these atrocities long before the US was a nation or before most of Europe was out of loin clothes...... Sad that you hang your whole argument on a speck of time when Millenniums have far more to answer for than we a young nation. to name a few Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Alexander the Great, Shako Zulu, Saladin, Rome, Portugal, Spain, Arabia, Persia, India, China - Need I point out mainly the Mediterranean, Asia and Middle Eastern Country have been the proprietors of your pointed atrocities for longer and more talented than we the Americans could have or ever wish to be. I say to you - delve in this illusion of yours and you will pass thru this life swiftly and without ever really mattering and or without ever really having a genuine thought that is of some form of substance. By the Way I'm Flathead Indian, Montana Tribe. We Indians fought amongst ourselves and slaughtered complete encampments of other tribes with the same verosity and nastiness that you calm americans are guilty of. lets not also forget that those days and people are long dead and buried and we as american have evolved to a better place and Nation than we were then.

Posted by: Kelly Phillips at February 26, 2005 11:15 PM (7rF9W)

13 Indian Nationalist should first remember how his country India is sucking around all small south Asian nation by stealing land from Bangladesh,Nepal and the small nation- Sikkim. Why don't you tell your government to fix their own behavior then come to lecture a great nation like United Sates. India is a very poor country who should feed her people first then build nuclear bomb. By the way- Indian cast system is well known in the west. Which world do you live in where your people still believe in higher and lower class system? You can take your history lesson to your own higher class people first not to us. Alberto (A proud citizen of the United Sates of America)

Posted by: Alberto at March 05, 2005 04:05 PM (NFuml)

14 Indian nationalist here is the true face of your country, enjoy- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j010202.html Alberto

Posted by: Alberto at March 05, 2005 04:29 PM (NFuml)

15 To all those who support the U.S.A., and their role in Iraq and the war on -quote- terrorism, SHAME ON YOU!!! So what, you lost two towers, and a couple of thousand people, but guess what, why should the rest of the world care??? Your history is so pathetic, slavery, then segeration. Then in WWI you guys just waited around till the end of the war, then danced into Europe and declared, "we are a strong nation". Same with WWII, U.S.A. probably wouldn't have even gotten involved in WWII if it wasn't for the Pearl Harbour attack. You offer countries money in exchange for their friendship, and if they don't want your money or any other westren product, then you change their minds by killing thousands of innoncent civilians. SHAME ON THE U.S.A. and it's people for allowing this war to happen. How can you blame the so-called "terriosts" for killing YOUR soilders in THIER COUNTRY. I would do the same if anybody invaded my counrty, but yet for some reason your nation believes that they have the right to dictate how other countries should be run, and how other should live. You should have learned your history lesson with the civil war, the more you enslave, or dictate to people, the more rebellion you are going to have. SHAME ON THE U.S.A., your country IS RICH, but yet instead of helping countries who have thousands and thousands of people dying everyday from starvation, you bomb the crap out of countries who don't see eye to eye with your ideals and values. NEWS FLAH AMERICANS, you are not the only people in this world. When will you learn to share, and get along with people, dispite the fact that they are differt (like us peace loving Canadians). As far as I am concerned USA is the next NAZI regime. NO REST FOR THE WICKED!!! NO PEACE FOR THE EVIL!!! NO SUPPORT FOR THE USA!!!!

Posted by: Does it matter??? at March 10, 2005 10:09 AM (gqafM)

16 My Canadian peace loving friend: Your entire post is an evaluation of our bad decision in Iraq. I am against the involvement in Iraq. One of our president made a wrong choice but you are yelling our whole history. Is it fair? Did you forget if we weren't there during WWII, Europe would be a large Germany nation by now. Our serviceman proudly devoted their lives to save Europe. You didn't mention when the Muslim were killing by Serbs in Bosnia- the European and peace loving Canada didn't do anything for them. We, again the Americans bombed like hell and brought justice in Bosnia. As the most powerful nation, we also make bad choice but we are a great nation who's history is mix of bad and good choice. Never say, we just lost two big towers and thousands of lives- terrorism should be point out and criticized. If you say- "Who cares?" We care because they were our people who were killed by some terrorist. We care and if the rest of the world doesn't care, we don't care about them either. This answer is just for them who say- who cares. The reason, I was not happy with Mr. Indian lover because his country(India) is a aggressive country in South Asian region. As a Canadian you have more right to talk against our bad choice. I like your country, we also buy your 90% GDP. Your country stand for a better choice so far but my friend- Power comes with huge responsibility. It is easy to criticize but very difficult to deal with. As a Canadian if you want to start a constructive debate, I am with you. But if you just talk about our bad choice rather then good choice then I will tell you- There are many reason to be a proud American and you are more secured to be located next to us. Believe it or not- it's your choice. Alberto

Posted by: Alberto at March 14, 2005 07:08 AM (NFuml)

17 U.S is a powerful country.If you fall in its bad books ur done.No 1 in the world will b ur ally.the only way out is to possess weapons that desuades U.S invasion(currenty north korea,iran)and many asian countries develop wmd for protection...a desuading factor from being invaded. dont bring religion into national issues...the fight is not between muslims or anybody.In the middle east Islam is a way of life.Inspiration,motivation,social life etc.all are derived from almighty...allah.so if they fight they trust god for help..if they r doing any difficult work say studying for engineerin they will say allah hu akbar..i.e god is great...dats thier way of life. i have seen numerous pictures of women children dying coz of US invasion...which if u ask any 1 was not justified(no wmd and saddam never harboured terrorist).its not a war between muslims an anybody.the genisis of the term islamic terrorist is media created.so much conflict with muslims(middle east) it seem muslims or islam teaches just fighting. moin nawaz

Posted by: moin nawaz at March 20, 2005 05:36 AM (OHkZx)

18 Alberto: Typical american response. Are you in any way related to Georgre W. Bush?? Your response .... so percise, so calculated.. it makes me wonder?? What ARE they teaching in american schools?? Oh wait don't tell me i already know the answer; totalitarianism

Posted by: does it matter at April 09, 2005 02:47 AM (gqafM)

19 Does it matter: Sorry dude, I voted for Kerry. I am a hardcore democrat. About American schools- Do you know, we allow most of the foreign students in our country and many more are still interested to come? Why do they want to come? Have you ever checked the top 10 university list or where most of them are? Got my answer about our teaching method in our schools? The reason, I am talking here is because you guys are only talking about negative side. As a country we are not perfect, can you show me any perfect nation on earth? Dude, be constructive with your topic and be fair. One more point- about typical America. Of course, you don't understand the meaning of United States of America. This land is everybody's land- anyone can come *legally* and try to fulfill their dream. Some people can, some people can not achieve American dream. Look at my Italian name- you see the point why USA is a universal country? I understand Europe well for my Italian background. Does it a matter-no because I am an proud American. The power of American people is not our mighty military or Economy. It is our own people, our education system as well as our technology, our social value(some can be good, some can be bad). Now you gonna talk about our foreign students contribution. Yes, we appreciate and we also give them all the opportunity to be successful which the entire European education system can't effort. We give a choice and the foreign student take it. That doesn't mean, all inventions are by foreign students. Internet was invested by our navy. You like it or not- the people of America is the power. Look how easily, I tell you that I am a democrat and against Iraq policy. This we call democracy. Yes some of our decision is not right but you have to realize- we the people of the United States of America are the power not our military or economy. Does it a matter to you dude? No, it doesn't because you have a typical anti-American view which will never see logic. I respect your view because I believe in your freedom of expression but I also have my right to defend my nation- you like it or not. You also mention about my calculated, percise responce- this is American way where we have learned to debate with logic. None of you are answering or saying- we did the right thing in Bosnia when the rest of the world failed. You guys are passing away our good political records. This is not fair. Sorry, for the long pause. I was in Asia for a while and forgot to check your message for a while. Have a nice day. Alberto

Posted by: Alberto at April 29, 2005 06:28 PM (NFuml)

20 Dear Moin Nawaz: Assalamu-Alikum brother. Religion and national issues are the two sides of a coin. I have many Muslim friends and after 9/11 some of my Muslim friends came to live in my house because they were scared, they might be harassed. Why did I do it, because of their religion? No. because they were American who work hard and also love this country as me, not less then me. I just came back from my Asian tour and one the way- I stop by in Dubai then went to spend some time in Muslim Malaysia,Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India(it is a Hindu country). I have always great interest about Muslim history and culture. I want to share some of my experience with you and all- how Muslim treat Muslim. Your will get your answer. Your name tell me that- you are most probably from Pakistan, can be Bangladeshi. Am I right? I can be wrong but might not- If you are, as a South Asian you already know that- many of your people(include India) who can't find a job go to middle-eastern countries. But this innocent, hard working people are very much discriminated in the middle east. Some of them are not paid month after month, beaten by the Arab employers with out couple months salaries. I saw couple of big group of South Asian workers in the Dubai airport who were waiting for their flight. They told me, all this stories about how Arab Muslims are treating the Asian Muslims. You can not show me any example in the United Sates where any Muslim was not paid for after their hard work. I know the history of great Sultan Saladin and his Holly war against King Richard. I also know how Ottoman Empire tortured many people in Europe and Asia. I also want to say how much impressed I was to see Malaysian development and respect their ex-PM Dr. Mahathir Mohammad. Tell me if those middle- eastern Muslims are so inspired, motivated by Islam how they do this with their own Muslim brothers from Asia. You know that why because This Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indonesia, even Hindu Indians are poor people and have no choice. Are you telling me this Islamic brother hood in middle-east? I know Islam has nothing to deal with it. Islam is a religion of peace. Your motivated, inspired Arab brothers and Osama-bin-laden kinda people are miss guided and miss translating the meaning of Islam. They corrupt the religion form you- the good Muslim people. Islam never allow monarchy but what the hell those Arab kings are doing? Where is your Islamic inspiration and motivation gone in this case? Prophet Mohammad Salal-lahu-Alia-sllam didn't teach this Islam to the Muslim. I am saying the whole Iraq thing is wrong but don't forget your Muslim leader Saddam killed his own people. Tell me, were those people were Christian, Hindu or Muslim? Look at the history of Jordan. As a Muslim nation how they betrayed with Palestinian. They took Palestinian land by a peace deal with Israel. Look How many people die in Iraq-Iran war? look How many people dies by Pakistani army during Bangladeshi independence war in 1971. You see- Muslim killed lot of their own people. Don't just point your finger at us, try to evaluate your own mistake too. I know, you will never answer my post because you are caught with your own respond. But, I would love to have an explanation from you. Allha Hafez Alberto

Posted by: Alberto at April 29, 2005 07:05 PM (NFuml)

21 After reading some of the blatantly fascist-racist ideologues on this website, everything I thought about conservatism was proven true-- what if i said all americans deserved to be nuked? wouldn't that be wrong? Well, the US has been\is more a threat to the world than ever Iraq was or shall be= yet, people still understand that the wrongs of a few bad people should not condemn an entire race, religion or lot of people uninvolved in those crimes...... Thus, I won't blame America, when hearing the few fascist-American comments that people like you (aka CINDY) present

Posted by: JOE at May 09, 2005 09:57 PM (h6/dG)

22 GREYROOSTER< u r a ^&*#ing idiot= there are fewer natives now than ever, because of the genocide praticed upon them......they did not have the urge to kill any more than anybody else, of course, the Europeans were facilitated by guns and simply succeeded in their sinister plans!! You are an ignorant fool, who knows little about history

Posted by: joe at May 09, 2005 10:00 PM (h6/dG)

23 Joe, thanks for your class act. Those ignorant fools are quiet now. Do you think, they believe in Logic? Their view is very little and think they are very open minded people. I will say be open minded, it is good but please read more and be fair with your comment. Alberto

Posted by: Alberto at May 12, 2005 03:30 AM (Ex3P9)

24 It's amazing how divided this planet is. No one speaking in human terms, more on the lines of me, me, me and how I see it and less on what are the facts are. This planet is weak(fact) compared with the rest of the aged and wise beings that live in the universe with us(fact). Who go to great lengths to avoid us(fact). What would your response to a being telling you, "u stink on earth", you'd want to go to war if you didn't run first. Would u think of the being's free speech first? Oh that's right, humans don't see other races, so they believe that there isn't anyone out there but themselves. U jerks! I was one too. I started thinking and looked up formulas and I thought the world was flat and I would fall off the edge if I went too far. That sounded crazy and it is, no logic in this day and time what so ever could support that line of thought. Example of how someone will have that logic and may never want to leave it unless something with more weight is provided. Even facts to the face may not allow someone to grow in their beliefs, damn the facts. If any of us have paid attention, logic would guide you and you could only see a planet of humans ruling over every other creature on the planet. Not tring to be rulers but have come to that role of protecting and preserving parts of the world and not others. This is against the natural order of things, to preserve maybe too far , life does go extinct. And we are finding that we can, with complete dna, create clones of creatures that have long be gone. Who's to say we may not be clones of a great race. When superior technology, intellect and weapons that most of you really wouldn't understand, would make all of us slaves to some other race who hates humans and all they represent, is the only horror I see in the future. Maybe we destroy ourselves when testing some new weapon to "Defend the Planet". We have no control over the future just the here and now. And we do little to address how to come together. Have none of you looked at how the United Planet of Earth will enter the galactic universe. We live in a pretty big bubble lot's of places with really low tech, Before technology some earth cultures already understood they didn't live alone, like it or not give logic a simple test. 1) Are u human? 2) Do you respect all life, even life that must be taken for any reason. There are rules that govern this. 3) Do you see the human race being in space and understanding space/time? 4) If life live's at miles under the sea, why can't life exists billions of miles away in other ways? 5) How much do you understand about the universe you live in? A little, a lot or are you learning? 6) Does someone have to tell you something or do you use your senses to discover the truth, As Newton did. 7) Do you try to learn something new on a constant basis? Do you realize peace comes at the price of life. Having technology will provide some parts to the peace formula. For most of you the answers are yes, most of your have no concept of where u live in time and space. How there are civilizations out there that will be 100k years old and older, Watching us, comparing their history to our present. How we must look like apes still or worse, sad how blame is used like a knife and ignorance is a sheild and they are used to fight the truth. Really, it doesn't matter if we can't make a Contract of Humanity that applies to all and protects all human rights everywhere not just America or others that consider themselves free, but say a being who may get stranded on Earth. We will be united, one way or the other. Don't be logical and miss what you can't see. Use it and posses insight. Use the truth to find wisdom and fight for the rights of humans. There will be a day soon where human rights can't only be considered. Terrorist don't care about human rights, so the must be removed by any means possible. RCB Lone Human looking for the United Planet of Earth

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi militant suspected of involvement in beheadings and other bloody attacks told Iraqi authorities that his group has links with Iran and Syria, according to a tape aired Friday by an Arabic TV station funded by the U.S. government.

Moayad Ahmed Yasseen, leader of Jaish Muhammad, which is Arabic for Muhammad's Army, was captured nearly two months ago in Fallujah, the former guerrilla stronghold west of Baghdad.

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What can we do other than sanctions? Assuming we have the military capability to strike Iran or Syria, could this country sustain another war that many will see as an ongoing Iraqi war? Translation, will the anti-war Left rebel too much and cause too much instability within our own nation even if the evidence is insurmountable?

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(Orange County, California) According to prosecutors, Santiago Charter Middle School English teacher, Sarah Bench-Salorio, 28, has been formally charged with 20 counts of lewd conduct with a child under 14. Bench-Salorio is alleged to have seduced the boys, her students, over a period of months by offering dinners and luring them through phone calls and e-mails.

Authorities said Bench-Salorio met the first boy shortly after she began teaching at the school and began having sex with him in May 2003, a month after she got her teaching credential. They had a 16-month relationship that lasted until September before she began a four-month relationship with a second boy, prosecutors said.

Interestingly, she's sympathetic to the school and the boys, says her attorney, Allan Stokke, but there's no mention of how she's going to explain it to her husband and three foster children. On the other hand, she may not have to. Arrested Tuesday, she is being held on $1 million bail and faces a possible 46 years in prison.

Sadly, the roster of female teachers who sexually molest children continues to grow. Along with Pamela Smart, Debra Lafave, Mary Kay Letourneau, Lisa Suitter, and Amber Jennings, we must add Sarah Suzanne Bench-Salorio.

Isn't it about time for the judicial system to sentence female child molesters in a manner that's comparable to that which a man could expect? I imagine that if a man had committed the crimes that Bench-Salorio is accused of, he would never see light outside of prison.

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1 I have to say, when I was 14, I dreamed of a woman like Debra LeFave molesting me.

Posted by: Mr. K at January 07, 2005 04:24 PM (xw5xQ)

2 Why couldn't I have been so lucky as a child. That's lottery stuff there.

Posted by: Satan at January 07, 2005 06:41 PM (yYGP5)

3 Crazy huh! I spent my entire sophmore year in high school trying to seduce my english teacher. Got no where. These women are weird. Some to them look good. Could get layed in 10 minutes at any local bar. Must be a kid thing. Same as some wacko men want to have sex with little girls. Sick, sick, sick. Mohammed stuff.

Posted by: greyrooster at January 07, 2005 07:14 PM (ccnRW)

4 I have to admit when I was young, I wouldn't have mind screwing the teacher. But yes, even I have to agree that is it time for equality of sentencing! Female adults who go after little boys should recieve the same punishment. You can't throw the book at one and kid glove the other. The 14th says so.

Posted by: Andre at January 08, 2005 10:13 AM (H3q0a)

5 I'm surprised - I'd figured that you right-wing guys would be opposed to artificial egalitarianism. The law ought to recognise the difference between male 'victims' (who get a pat on the back from all their impressed mates) and female 'victims' who live with years of guilt and resentment. Each case is unique obviously - but, culturally-speaking, I really don't think it's very disturbing for an attractive female to 'molest' a 14yr old dude!

Posted by: Martin at January 08, 2005 01:04 PM (ll2pj)

6 You people are all crazy!! She is soo innocent!!! OMG! you dont even no her and you think shes guilty, you dont no the kids or the school, or her family , or anything. all you guyz no it what you hear on TV and what the "police" tell you. All of you sick people who think of banging your teacher are gross and discusting- Mrs, Salorio is SO not like that- and never will be.

Posted by: Danielle S (a former student of hers) at January 10, 2005 06:49 PM (ZYyet)

7 I think those teachers should be thrown in prison with me and the guys,we'd fix them right up...and down.

Posted by: Big Black at January 11, 2005 09:58 PM (pYUcf)

8 Well I do KNOW that she was a horrible English teacher if this Danielle S. girl can mispell the word "know" so many times. And I think we all know that if Bench-Salorio was banging Danielle's 14 year old boyfriend then she'd be a little pissed like everyone else. If she thinks you guys who used to fantasize about banging your teachers are gross, what then about a woman who fantasizes about banging boys who are young enough to be her sons? All of them were under the age of 14? Disgusting. Danielle, I think we all know that those boys are feeling pretty cool now for shagging a now notorious woman (as if getting it on with your teacher wasn't cool enough), the school would never rehire her even if they could, and her family wishes that they could just disown her.

Posted by: Lori at January 11, 2005 11:04 PM (JMfuQ)

9 I would definately have sex with 3 of my teachers....and for all of you that catagorize, I am a girl. If any of these three guys came on to me, I would jump at the offer!

Posted by: Caroline at January 22, 2005 06:23 PM (ywZa8)

10 I find it disgusting, alarming, and a shame to society, that so many young girls, as well as adults, are open to frivolity and depravation, and support others who are. It says a lot about what our current values and moral beliefs have come to be, and liberation has nothing to do with it. Obviously this girl, Caroline, who would like three of her teachers to come on to her, has got her convictions and attitudes from the media, society, and most of all from what schools and teachers stand for these days. Sadly, again, the bottom line is about who teaches in our schools today---often with questionable skills, knowledge, and moral values. People have become so ingnorant that they are incapable of recognizing ignorance, or general lack of knowledge in others; Sarah Bench-Salorio's neighbour, Chris, who appeared on Fox to comment on the teacher, was full of admiration for the teacher's getting `her credentials to teach'; to her, and many other people, the effort counts more than the result. This is why the quality of school is degrading more and more, every year. I think people should wake up and start caring about the qualifications and moral fitness of those who teach their children, and future generations.

Posted by: Michael at January 25, 2005 03:03 PM (oO8ud)

11 Michael, you watch FOX...that explains it. I said I would jump on the offer if they did "come on to me." The teachers would never do that, which catagorizes this as a so called "high-school fantasy".... Personally I do not believe that my teachers "stand for" sex. Were you ever in high school...Mic, or whatever your name is, I forget? Hopefully you were, and maybe you passed. But your school screwed up somewhere...they let you watch FOX news! Now get over yourself and your convictions speech, because it has nothing to do with your moral integrity, which you seem to believe. Thank you, and really you don't have to reply, because I will just come up for an answer to that also. Unless, you just crave being shown up by a high school girl. \m/(*_*)\m/

Posted by: Caroline at January 25, 2005 09:17 PM (6krEN)

12 I agree that women should receive the same sentence as men. Although boys dream of things like this happening to them, in reality, they do not want it anymore than the girls do from dirty old men. The girl in support of her English teacher (Danielle) apparently didn't study too hard in class, at least according to the spelling. As for the comments on FOX, .... it's that way for every news station. The American government lets us hear what they want us to hear.....You should travel sometime to Europe or Australia....the news there is real. Good day.

Posted by: Rick at January 30, 2005 03:29 PM (iTzOP)

13 Lets face it this is every young boys dream. To think they are being abused is absurd, they are in male heaven. Why are we making such a big deal of an older woman teaching a young man how to pleasure a lady.

Posted by: Jim at February 09, 2005 05:52 AM (XeM0n)

14 I think that it is very comendable of everyone to push the oh so obvious moral issues in this case. What is sad is that it is human nature to have what you can't have and want what you shouldn't. I do believe that if she did break the law she should be punished in the same manner as anyone that commits this crime. In closing I will say that I am a 25 year old female sleeping with my 41 year old boss, yes I said my boss. I can honestly say it has been the most satisfying relationship that I have been a party too in my short existence, and I beleive it is this way because we're doing something we're not supposed to. Funny how the world works.

Posted by: Gina at February 09, 2005 03:26 PM (0V1eJ)

15 I too would have championed the idea of having nookie with her at 14. I had a teacher named Mrs. Hall. She was married to another teacher and he got her into our school. She was only 23. Damn she was hot. She was short and had a fine body so everyone drooled over her since she didn't seem to different than the seniors...

Posted by: Site Reviews at February 09, 2005 06:41 PM (CgcD2)

16 If it didnt bother the boy that Salorio had a fling with, then why did he tell his mom? Im thinking it really did bother him.

Posted by: betty at February 10, 2005 04:30 PM (nzVqy)

17 That boy has problem! All men in this world want pleasure, but not all women. It is possible that the boy shows it off to his friends how lucky he is to be attractive to a woman, and it spreads.

Posted by: boywords at February 10, 2005 10:56 PM (IqzTa)

18 To Gina the naive 25 year old sleeping with her 41 year old boss...if he's not married then he's having fun and you think you are...hopefully he'll narry you and live happily ever after - probably won't happen. I have a feeling that he's married though and you are simply undermining a family...which is evil - pure and simple on both your and his part.

Posted by: Leni at February 11, 2005 09:28 PM (gwJgq)

19 i think being molested is aN horrible THING, AND MUST BE TREATED AS AN HORRIBLE CRIME,and u PEOPLE are not concerned about that! U ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE AGE A HUMAN BEING HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION OF HAVING SEX!!!! I THINK IS ALL ABOUT SEX...14 A CHILD? HAHAHA... i have 17 years old and if u WANT To have sex whit me U CAN`T: IT WOULD be a "sexual crime" cause u would be molesting me!!!!!; but hey! tomorrow it`s my byrthday...THIS IS CRAZY!!!!!!!THIS IS ...UKING CRAZY!!!!

Posted by: vladimir at February 11, 2005 10:30 PM (wHJw1)

20 Some of you excuse this act, stating "It is the dream of every teenage boy." Well, maybe you're right. But, it is also the case that ever teenage GIRL has similar fantasies. After all, what do you think that adult men are exploiting when they manage to get a teenage girl in bed? The are both equally bad. These women should be tossed in jail and given the same treatment that men get when they do this.

Posted by: Iguana at February 12, 2005 07:39 PM (gj803)

21 In reference to Gina, she's the problem most families have these days, someone who has no morals! If she cannot have and keep her job without sleeping with the boss, then she is no better than a street walker supporting a habit, drug habit, not sexual! It's not about sex with her or these teachers, it's about control, so let's face it. They knew these boys would be as bad as school girls and the bathrooms escapades because they love bragging and being someone all will look up to, so why not also because they are doin' the teacher?!

Posted by: Jerry Welch at February 13, 2005 06:56 AM (kn+z5)

22 All my teachers were so old, you'd have to knock off the dust bunnies to find anything... The moral decay of America continues...

Posted by: NotOneLuckyLay at February 16, 2005 09:07 AM (x/nGg)

23 I don't condone teachers of either sex having sexual relations with students. However, in the case of female teachers...if the kid got an erection, obviously he was into it so it wasn't much of a crime. I would certainly have appreciated a very attractive older lady showing me the ropes rather than the series of embarrassments and errors that we typically go through before we figure it all out. Sure they should be punished. But like the misdemeanor that it is...not hard time. These boys hit the lottery and its too bad they were not smart enough to recognize it and just shut up and appreciate their good fortune.

Posted by: Terry at February 16, 2005 12:01 PM (fLlQ8)

24 Personally, I love these female teachers banging their younger male students, I love the older male teachers who bang those hot little middle school cheerleaders too. I wish I had of had one of those female teachers. Or I wish I was a male teacher who could bang a young hot middle school girl. Give me a girl about 14 who wants to bang an older male, hell yes! I would do her in a second. All these Christian conservatives need to get out of our government and let people do whatever they want, so long as their not killing people. I am all for adults being able to have sex with young teens, not children but teens. I think if the teen agrees and it is consensual then so be it! People should just mind their own bussiness and let the people do their thing. I would love to have a hot young thing and ironically, I am only 22! Go figure. Three cheers for molester teachers, keep hope alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jeramie at February 16, 2005 06:03 PM (xBrqg)

25 It's amazing to read the comments here and think that we are all on the same planet, let alone in the same country. First, the spelling errors run rampant throughout showing the true degradation of our education system - if it ever was anything to brag about. The point in question is not whether boys and girls like having sex with teachers but rather what consequences do they face for having them? Some kids really like using drugs or getting drunk with the help of some adult - maybe their own parent - but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. Society has to protect itself by protecting those that will lead this society in the future. Sex with children might be fun for all involved but they aren't ready emotionally or psychologically for what these adults are getting them into. There are few responsibilities greater than being a parent or a teacher to young children. Violation of that trust is extremely serious. We aren't dogs in heat running the streets looking for someone to satisfy our animal passions - well some of us aren't... Adults must use some common sense to guide children to healthier and more safe lifestyles.

Posted by: Danny at February 17, 2005 02:12 PM (SI94M)

26 It's a human rights thing - Who do conservative pathetic Adults think they are for denying the basic human right to free expression and choice to teenage boys or girls. In time to come our society will be judged evil and repressive for denying the basic human right of sex to our young people who wish to have sex no matter with who. Childrens over say 12 are created by god with the ability to have sex and their human rights are no less important than an Adults rights to sex. Conservative adults will one day burn in hell for this evil repression !!

Posted by: Keith at February 18, 2005 03:57 AM (KnLbu)

27 In reference to Keith I would ask him to remember that though God did give us the ability to have sex we need to remember that we are also given brains enough to choose the wiser path. Choose a path Keith...is it wrong for people to do what God made them to do or is it wrong for people to ignore what God made them to do? If you reference God remember that there are guidelines that are also given…such as not sleeping around on your spouse, not having sex outside of marriage, not using people for sex, etc. I've slept around and you know what...I'm a consenting adult...but it's still wrong because I let sex become more important than the other person. That makes me a user and not a lover. These teachers did the same thing. Some may claim to “love” their student but in the end they used them to get sex. That’s not love that’s lust and abuse. I had some hot teachers and buddy I would’ve jumped at the chance but it wouldn’t have been right just because I wanted it. You know maybe a young boy likes it when their male teacher touches them…but we wouldn’t be so supportive of that would we? Heterosexual pride makes us say that’s gross. In the end it comes down to whether this is a legal or a moral issue. From a legal standpoint it is wrong because of the child’s age and the teacher’s position of authority. From a moral standpoint it is wrong because of the physiological, physical, and emotional unpreparedness of the child to receive this from a teacher and also because of the use of a human being to fulfill twisted sexual fantasies. Either way it needs to stop.

Posted by: Hugh at February 18, 2005 08:51 AM (6VlGw)

28 I don't think a student wanting to bang their teacher is gross. I think a teacher wanting to bang their student is sick! There's a difference. I'll also add, that I too wonder where these women were when I was a student? Hell, just to look at would be fine. I think throughout my entire K-12 career, I had one good looking teacher, taught German. Kids today don't know how good they got it.

Posted by: Travis at February 18, 2005 11:57 AM (ANCDC)

29 Jeramie you just admitted to being a child molestor. Is that something that you are really proud of?

Posted by: Michael at February 24, 2005 11:53 AM (kzJg8)

30 shes hot, id let her do me

Posted by: Toni at February 28, 2005 11:21 AM (KJS5A)

31 send me sex photos

Posted by: ruwan at March 05, 2005 09:29 PM (HqKft)

32 I think it is not good to have sex with teen age kids, but some times you can not control yourself. As it happened to me. One of our naibour girl age of used to come our house. I was alone. When she saw my dogs errected penis, she begain to ask questions about it. During that she told me that she has seen her parents many times. And she enquired about my penis, I shown her, she herself kissed it and masterbated. I could not stop her. I felt sorry for it, but it was a moment. So I think the teacher sould not be punished.

Posted by: Jamal Ali at March 13, 2005 09:08 PM (ASuaf)

33 Hmm...I don't think I understood a single sentence whats his name said....I think he said that he got whacked while looking at his dogs erection...maybe?

Posted by: Mmm at March 26, 2005 11:16 PM (+7VNs)

34 so good

Posted by: mustanser at March 29, 2005 05:34 AM (NTlJy)

35 I would do my teacher...or five of them...but especially one. I think one is already doing a student or two, and that is a little funny....lol

Posted by: I WouldDoRC at April 01, 2005 07:46 PM (ywZa8)

36 imam mahdi in kurdistan

Posted by: hadyat at April 01, 2005 11:18 PM (IevcP)

37 WHAT???

Posted by: IWoulldDoRC at April 02, 2005 08:53 PM (6krEN)

38 Nice to know huge....

Posted by: IWouldDoRC at April 06, 2005 08:49 PM (M7kiy)

39 Well i think sex is important part of life.I myselef a teacher in gils high School and have done sex with more than two dozen girls students of my school.Well if one want it then no wrong i never raped them its all the wanted.And i always satisfied them.i am doing it for last 9 years and some of mt student i had sex got married and few of them still have relations with me.And three of them have my babies.

Posted by: master at April 14, 2005 01:01 AM (8CfyT)

40 Well I to a school teacher in girls high school in india.I teach Maths and i am sports teacher also.i had fucked many teens girls of my school.I count round about mmore than two dozen in last 7 years.And that to very young in age group of 13 to 16.most of them about 95 % of them were virgin. I lured them and done sex,on giving them good marks in maths.I think i am doing wrong but once one fuck tight virgin kunt then one cannot stop himself.i remember that 3 girls whom i fucked got married and still they have relations with me and the have my babies so if one want it and if you can satify the girl then no harm.

Posted by: fuckteen at April 14, 2005 01:16 AM (8CfyT)

41 Ok....you are just a little too over the top there

Posted by: IWouldDoRC at April 22, 2005 08:13 PM (HoSBk)

42 Oh if I had a 14 year old guy come up to me that was hot and I liked. I would probally have sex. As long as he was using a condom you know protcetion. For me to have sex with a 14 year old wouldn't be wrong since I am 14 years old. I would love to have sex with A hot 14 year old at least 2 to 3 times a day for one whole month or two whole months. we would just have to use protcetion. I beleveie that I could make the hot guy happy. I bet I could fuck him so good and hard and tight that he would come back begging for more and more. I bet I could fuck him ever day and be so happy. That's why I can not wait until I am 19 years old and i have my own house and am married or got a feancie that I would be married to soon. but that is still 5 years but i bet it would be fun to have hardcore sex. Or even teabag sex. I bet I would make a good wife and give great sex. I would even modle for may boyfriend or husband or feancie. I would modle naked and any or way he wanted me to. But right now at this very minute it is 5:18pm and the date is april 24, 2005 and i am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so fucking fucking fucking Horny. So Horny I could have sex right now at my moms house.

Posted by: I'm So Horny at April 24, 2005 04:16 PM (fFrk3)

43 ANY ONE FUCK ME I LIVE AT 1266 mixer road. I AM NOT LYING.

Posted by: I'm So Horny at April 24, 2005 04:53 PM (fFrk3)

44 hi im fatima and im from leabnon iwas born in 1989 but iwant to do sex i donot knew if my age good to do sex

Posted by: lolra at April 25, 2005 08:46 AM (G5KGC)

45 Ok, I just want to say that you are all sick. The fact here is not only that the dumb slut had sex with a 14 year old, a minor, there are laws against that!, but also that she was his teacher. He is a young boy, not old enough to make his own decisions. He was probably afraid to say no, and he had no right to be violated in that way. He trusted his teacher, and she took advantage of that. WHEN she goes to jail, I hope the girls in there fuck her up. You are all a bunch of sickos, and I hope to see ya'll in hell.

Posted by: Erica at April 25, 2005 05:48 PM (Uo0dB)

46 Before you have sex....you need to stay in school and learn to spell. Protection....Fiance....Believe....Model

Posted by: IWouldDoTP at April 28, 2005 07:43 PM (ywZa8)

47 I'm 13 years old. I'm in love with my art teacher, Mr. Garrison. I think and dream of him making love to me all of the time. Maybe after 8th grade we will be able to have a relationship.

Posted by: Allison Klater at May 02, 2005 02:33 PM (bcjPu)

48 first of all... sickos are just faggets waiting to get bounced on like A picuttoa's like me ess-say...child mollestas keep ya-head-up...check-et out holms...have-u-ever gott-cha shit pushed in? little hunnies out their...whatch out for these sick muthaphukkaz who be creepin on-ya...if you was to know they aint sickos at least know their names and never be alone...advice from A person with A direct approach...for the 13 year old... if you think your mature for A adult male ya-betta watch out...his big dick might hurt-cha...please dont be mad im just warning you eternal bleedin if you know what im sayin...15-16 and up I guess is phukkable age...

Posted by: jey-B will rub-ya down slow at May 05, 2005 12:42 PM (tfwPD)

49 When I was in high school in the 50's I never dreamed of touching any female teachers. I am sure when I saw a bunch of them standing together in the hallway I could see their tails wagging. Surely I heard a bark occasionally. At least, I think so. Today the teachers look and act like students...and try to be their frieeends. How special! Maybe their trying to find out who they are? Could it be ....low self esteem!!! GASP!! Surely the psychological cabal can classifiy it as a disability and they can get all kinds of governmental help? HOORAY!!!

Posted by: Les at May 06, 2005 02:40 AM (6zH1D)

50 ahhhh dirty sluts, i just wish i could have sex with my r.e teacher right in her house infornt of herhusband, she is such a slut, so horrrrrrnyyyyyyyyyyyy the slut wants to fuck me.

Posted by: Elliot at May 06, 2005 11:01 AM (So2DR)

51 Ok... first of all, excuse my English - it isn't my first language! Well I am now 20 and I have been raped and had an affair with a teacher as a teenager. Most people would catagorize both as rape, but to me they were very different. When I was 15 I looked about 20 and the teacher in question was new to the school and did not teach me specifically and had no idea whether I was in the 6th form or still in high school. We met outside of school in a bar I used to hang out in and started talking and got on really well. He was very young at the time (early 20's) and had only just started teaching and since I have always had a thing for guys older than myself (these days I date guys at least 5yrs+ older than me) I asked him out. When I bumped into him in school a few weeks later we were both pretty shocked and had a very long and serious discussion about whether we should continue the relationship. By now we were very close and neither of us wanted to split up. Eventually we decided to continue dating, although we didn't have sex again until I was 16 (his choice, not mine!). There is no way I can turn around now and accuse him of taking advantage as at 15 I was more than aware of how sex and relationships worked and was more sexually-educated than my mum is now! I was also very sensible and level-headed and fully aware that his actions could get him into trouble if I decided to report him. I felt very in control of the situation all the time we were together. We are still friends now, although the relationship ended when we met other people - as relationships tend to do. To me it felt like a normal relationship. I just happened to be 15 when we met! I have no regrets about it at all... In comparison, when I was raped I felt completely out of control and hated every minute of it. Now I am not saying that it's right for teachers to date or have sex with students. I would not have dated this teacher if I had known he was a teacher at the time. Also, I don't believe most teenagers at that age are educated/experienced enough to cope with making that kind of choice - as several people have said already. I know for sure that none of my classmates at that time were mature enough to do the same thing and wouldn't have been able to comprehend my actions and I didn't say anything to them until we had all graduated - I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but how many 15yr olds have had a proper relationship and are relaxed/educated enough about sex? Even though I have been in this position myself I would not condone the majority of teacher-student relationships. At the end of the day, if the guys had really enjoyed it and had been sensible/mature enough to cope with his teacher acting that way then he would not have felt the need to say anything to his mother. To me that seemed like a cry for help, however much he physically enjoyed it. Emotionally and psychologically most teenagers are not ready for sex with an adult, however much they may lust after them and I agree that this woman should be punished for her actions.

Posted by: Charlie's Girl at May 07, 2005 11:48 AM (W/Vb2)

52 I think that society would have us to believe that it is not right or normal for students and teachers to have relationships (sexual or not), but what does society know about the human heart? After all, that is where love, passion and other emotions come from. I believe in most all the cases of teachers supposedly molesting their students, there was an element of love in some regard or another. I know people say there is no way a 20 something year old teacher could have feelings for a young teen like around 14 or vice versa, but age is just a number. I know it is possible to connect with someone say 10-12 years younger. You can't help how you feel inside. The heart wants what it wants. And the ONLY reason why people think this teacher student thing is soooo wrong is because society wants them to believe that.

Posted by: queen at May 10, 2005 09:26 PM (GU92B)

53 what crap!!....all I got was my track coach trying to fondle me in the shower after practice.

Posted by: Shane at May 19, 2005 09:11 AM (6krEN)

54 I wish someone would get on here and post tips on how to tell if a teacher likes you....or how to tell them you are interested. It wouldn't exactly work to just come out and say it because then you would have to live with seeing them everyday, not to mention them telling other teachers. There is one coach that I know has had sex with other students that I like, but I don't talk to him....other than Thursday when I wore a skirt and heels he came over to me and said "wow you look sharp today,(wink) I mean really sharp." With two thumbs up. I don't know how to make the next move/let him make the next move. Will someone give me some advice? There are others also, but I think he would be the easiest considering it is a known fact he has before.

Posted by: ?????? at May 22, 2005 09:53 PM (HoSBk)

55 Nice little discussion we have going here. Me being a 15 yr old female have some present expierence with teachers. I am in high school and we have A LOT of young teachers. Some of which are very attractive and others, well not so much. I think this women should be put away for what she did, and tried equally just as a male, its the same crime. On another note, I think its normal for an older person to like a younger person and the other way around. I know I like older guys, and they all happen to be my teachers. One just happens to be a devout christian who I would have to marry to get anything from him. It's common for younger girls to like older guys because usually guys our own are are extremely immature. Yes, maybe its wrong to have sex with your teacher/student, but whose to say dont follow your heart?

Posted by: Anonymous at June 02, 2005 07:12 PM (wlZCw)

56 Well, I am 16 and I have ALWAYS been attracted to older men. I have never had any interest whatsoever in guys my age. Older guys are just more attractive to me and that is what I prefer but sometimes it is hard. When you are my age you can't really act on any feelings you have when the man you are intersted in is 30-40... so you spend alot of time hurting and depressed. Most people dont understand but it hurts and will tear you apart inside. It is like having that secret crush and not being able to tell ANYONE or you will get ridiculed or rejected. It sucks and if I ever had the chance to act I would, but how would a 40 something year old man take a teenager telling them how they feel about them. Even if the guy isn't married or seeing anyone, which this one isn't. How could they react to something of that nature? and how would you tell them?

Posted by: IWouldDoRC at June 18, 2005 06:08 PM (ywZa8)

57 well if girls and boys would wanna have sex with there "teachers" than let them and when they get caught they blame it on the teachers what's the difference if they were to make the first move and than when the police gets involved they cry and say the teacher made the first move and some teachers do make first moves if they can't help them selves there nuts. Every student and teacher or anyone is stupid and nuts for what they do. Get A Life

Posted by: Laura at June 27, 2005 11:50 AM (rSvmM)

58 my teacher today tried to get me to fuck him!!!he is sooooo cute. but we got seen kissing in the hallway after school so i got kicked out of school and he got fired But it would have been was soooooooo fun oh ya...im only 13

Posted by: fuck me now at June 30, 2005 12:22 AM (QSWw3)

59 i m a 20 years old male B-tech student studying in hyderabad.if u think that u r alone then cantact me on this no:+919885224675. coz' it is i who can help me.

Posted by: naseem akhter at July 11, 2005 03:06 AM (30Spy)

60 hmm interesting posts.... yeah i have one teacher i want to fuck.. damn she is so fine and has this tight little arse.. she is always wearing these tight green pants that are just begging to get ripped off her. Im from Australia so i dont really know much about the american judicial system or what school life is like in america... but in my school its pretty shit.. 2 hot teachers in the last 5 years.. has anyone got any sights or can post any info on how to seduce your teacher... cause man, i want to fuck this hot little honey

Posted by: teacher fucker at July 12, 2005 10:04 PM (8E29J)

61 hey im 13 and boared of not having any boys to chat with wink wink!!!

Posted by: heather at July 22, 2005 11:43 AM (nd5Pb)

62 This place is dead. Anyway the one teach. that I said I thought was doing students already and that I would do him....well I am in his first period this semester so if it is going to happen it will within the next 4 months. And the other teacher came on to me yesterday when I was in his classroom. School hasn't started yet and I went in there to visit him and he was like saying that I looked good and walked closer to me, until he was right on top of me then he leaned down and kissed me...I was jumping inside it was the best feeling ever. But we will see where that goes...

Posted by: IWould DoRcOrTP at August 09, 2005 01:15 PM (M7kiy)

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Five embedded broadcasters have been sent packing from Iraq due to a breech in security, most likely involving showing something the enemy could use against the United States and Coallition forces.

NEW YORK As Iraq moves closer to its first democratic elections later this month, the number of news organizations requesting embedded slots with military units there is on the rise, according to officials. But those new embeds better watch their step. E&P has learned that five journalists have been kicked out of embed slots in the past three months for reporting secure information.

"They were all for operational security reasons, (revealing) something that would have been of use to the enemy," Maj. Kris Meyle, who runs the embed program, told E&P from Baghdad this morning. "Generally, it gets done very quickly. Usually it was something that was not done intentionally by the reporter."

With the five covering the Baghdad area, there should have been plenty of action and plenty of stories any one of them could cover that would not comprimise security. What about covering the hopes and dreams of the Iraqis? There has still yet to be a solid news story on how the lives of Iraqis have changed since the topple of Saddam Hussein other than the normal lack of electricity and anti-occupation route. I would be willing to bet even those who haven't had electricity in days and hate American soldiers have new found hopes for their own lives they would love to share.

As I've stated before on this site, one journalistic staple is that interviewees, just like everyone else, love to talk about themselves. A reporter interviewing an Iraqi citizen to find out what new hopes and dreams that he or she has now would in no way be a security concern or breech.

One of the more famous cases of an embedded reporter jeopardizing U.S. soldiers during the war in Iraq was that of Fox News anchor Geraldo Rivera who drew a diagram of sorts in the sand with exact troop positions. Rivera was not asked to leave the country or the embedded program therefore what these five did might have been worse.

I would still maintain whatever these five did was better than this reporter, who just "happened" to be at the scene of an execution.

Hat tip: Captain's Quarters

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The Belmont Club has the the second in a series of incisive and informative posts about the real dilemmas imposed by the superficial idealism of the torture debate. But he offers no real suggestions for how to exorcise these dilemmas, concluding: more...

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- NewsMax

Large numbers of al-Qaida fighters are still crossing freely from Saudi Arabia into Southern Iraq, according to senior military officials in Basra, the Gulf Daily News reports.

The paper says terrorists and weapons continue to flow into the country as it gears up for elections, said Colonel Jouke Spolestra, in charge of security sector reform in the southern Iraqi provinces.

Col. Spolestra, of the Royal Netherlands Navy, said that despite regular military patrols and raids on suspected insurgent strongholds, British-led forces had failed to halt the trafficking in personnel and arms. "People are coming in from Saudi Arabia, that is one cause of concern for us. There is a flow of weapons, illegal immigrants and of course even al-Qaida. We do have patrols, but it is an open border," he told the Gulf Daily News.

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- ABC News

WASHINGTON Jan 6, 2005 — Federal authorities are looking for a man using a Middle Eastern name and possibly bogus construction credentials to try to purchase large quantities of an explosive ingredient used by Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma City bombing.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said there was no indication that terrorism was involved, but the agency was still checking information that came from a company in Canada that reported the attempted purchase as suspicious.

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The suspect also made several e-mail inquiries to vendors, seeking to buy between 500 to 1,000 metric tons of the explosive a quantity larger than McVeigh used to bomb the Oklahoma City federal building in April 1995 but smaller than amounts companies typically might buy in bulk for construction, explosives or farm work.

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This is just too funny not to post.

"Some of our forefathers said that if there is usury and fornication in a certain village, Allah permits its destruction. We know that at these resorts, which unfortunately exist in Islamic and other countries in South Asia, and especially at Christmas, fornication and sexual perversion of all kinds are rampant. The fact that it happened at this particular time is a sign from Allah. It happened at Christmas, when fornicators and corrupt people from all over the world come to commit fornication and sexual perversion. That's when this tragedy took place, striking them all and destroyed everything. It turned the land into wasteland, where only the cries of the ravens are heard. I say this is a great sign and punishment on which Muslims should reflect.

- MEMRI

If the zionists didn't consider some of the areas effected tourist regions, Allah might have spared their lives becuase it was the zionists who were doing the fornicating. Stupid Christians and Jews.

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