September 14, 2004
Kitty Kelley
Did I mention that
Kitty Kelley is a
skanky lying publicity whore yet this morning? No? My bad. Kitty Kelley is a skanky lying
publicity whore.
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Jeez Rusty. Tell us what you really think.
Posted by: Rob at September 14, 2004 10:02 AM (fcqpB)
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She's going to be on Newsnight tonight on CNN with Aaron Brown if anyone cares to watch.
Also nobody knows yet that those documents are forged and President Bush is giving a campaign speech today to the National Guard. Yikes.
~C
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Breakfast, the most important blog of the day
Early to bed, early to rise--makes a blog healthy, wealthy, and wise. Yes, I'm turning this into a regular feature. Why? Cause I said so!! Just looking for a way to refer my readers to good posts. You think of a better way to do it just let me know. Also, if I'm on your blogroll and you are not on mine, please just drop me a line so I can fix that......So, what's for breakfast Doc?
--First, turn on the TV.
--Second, read talking points sent by VRWC. (i Espanol)
--Third, say grace.
--Protein? Eggs benedict and gefilte fish.
--Dairy? Yoplait.
--Fiber? Oatmeal, nuked, then topped with chocolate fudge.
--Bread? Rice-wafer, Quaker brand (a wholly owned subsidiary of General Mills, part of the VRWC).
--Drink? Alamo. I like a good beer buzz early in the morning.
Off to edumacate the masses.
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Thanks for the link. And I really like the breakfast themed posts.
Posted by: The Maximum Leader at September 14, 2004 09:52 AM (jmfvP)
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Dr. S. Thanks again! Can I call you Rusty now?
Posted by: Gordon at September 14, 2004 11:22 AM (7sq4M)
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 14, 2004 01:11 PM (D39Vm)
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I have been edumacating the masses all day and now discover my local has its air-conditioning off. Like drinking beer on Dagobah.
Posted by: Ghost of a flea at September 14, 2004 08:32 PM (sSbXw)
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September 13, 2004
Two Australians Kidnapped: 24 Hour Ultimatum Given
Finally, these guys think of a name which actually describes them. They call themselves the 'Horror Brigade'. Yup, that pretty much sums it up.
UPDATE 9/14: Could this be a hoax? Or maybe this is just a case of all infidels look alike.
News.com.au:
Two Australians have reportedly been kidnapped in Iraq and threatened with execution.
more...
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I agree. I'm losing count of them all. Somebody, somewhere said there were 80 plus kidnapped and over half already dead. I'm forgetting where I even put the info, it's getting so hard to keep up. Weren't there 2 others taken at the same time as these two? This is getting ridiculous. If US and Coalition are bombing the daylights - which they could do but aren't - out of the areas they believe these assoles are, the hostages could get killed, too. As Much as I'd see a hostage get killed, it would be worth it if we could get these bastards dead to rights.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 10:37 PM (D39Vm)
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Even our wanker of an opposition leader knows better than to listen to terrorists.
Hey, Horror Brigade, if you let us know where you are we'll send one of our crack "negotiating teams" round quick smart.
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Turkish Hostage Beheaded on Video
To see original post on this Turkish hostage, images, and links to video--please scroll down past this brief update section.
UPDATE 10/15: Another Turkish hostage was murdered today by the Army of Ansar al-Sunnah and shown in a gruesome beheading video. News, Images, and Links to Video at this more UPDATED POST.
UPDATE: 10/02: For the latest information, links to video, and images on hostages in Iraq please check the main page by CLICKING HERE.
Here is a list of all the victims of Islamic Beheadings since late July this year.
10/02 Iraqi Victim Barie Nafie Dawoud Ibrahim Beheading Video and Images Here
9/22 American Hostage Jack Hensley Beheading Video and Images Here
9/20 American Hostage Eugene Armstrong Beheaded on Video Here
9/13 Turkish Hostage Beheaded on Video Here
9/08 Three Muslim 'Informants' Beheaded by the Religion of Irony
8/31 12 Nepalese Hostages Killed, 1 Beheaded Here
8/26 Italian Hostage Enzo Baldoni Murdered Here
8/25 Alleged CIA Agent Beheaded in Video Here
8/13 Another Alleged CIA Agent Beheaded on Video Here
8/11 CIA Agent Executed: Another Beheading Video
8/09 Another Bulgarian Beheading Video
8/02 Turkish Hostage Murdered
7/28 Bulgarian Beheading Video
7/27 Kashmir Rebels Bomb Hospital, Behead Three
7/27 Paul Johnson Beheading Video and Images Here
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KESQ:
Al-Qaida-linked militants have posted a videotape on a Web site purportedly showing a kidnapped Turkish driver's beheading.
The video has the victim identifying himself as one of the Turkish contractors kidnapped last month. He speaks in Turkish with Arabic subtitles, describing his job transporting goods to an American military base in Mosul.
After that, the picture fades to a black screen with a title reading "the execution," followed by warnings from masked, armed militants to foreign drivers and grisly footage of the beheading.
The video was digitally dated August 17th. It was posted on the Web site used by a a group headed by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Updates later.
UPDATE: The victim's name is Durmus Kumdereli. He was killed last month. What is especially odd about this is that his companion, Mustafa Koksal, was released a month ago. Why would they let one go and kill the other one?
UDATE II: Video, courtesy Northeast Intelligence Network Backup video here (hat tip to Cindy and Sworn Enemy).
UPDATE III: I grabbed some images from that sites video. I will link a video if another site puts it up. Scroll down for images. Warning, very graphic.
more...
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Man, that sad list just keeps growing.
Posted by: Jane at September 13, 2004 02:10 PM (Pbs6a)
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According to the AP article the Turks claimed to rescue the second hostage 4 days after he was kidnapped (which would be the 17th or 18th of August).
Either the terrorists are lying and covering up the rescue, or the Turks are lying, in which case...
Posted by: Digger at September 13, 2004 02:25 PM (FYEx6)
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Well I've been everywhere and there is absolutely nothing on this anywhere...........?????
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 03:15 PM (D39Vm)
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Rusty,
You and I both know that 98% of the people in this world, especially here in the United States have no CLUE as to the barbaric savagery of these terrorists. If they did, I swear they'd be more support in getting rid of them around the globe.
~Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 06:17 PM (D39Vm)
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Found the video on the website for NEIN.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 11:45 PM (D39Vm)
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Thanks for hat-tipping me, I appreciate that. NEIN does like to remove minutes that they feel are extremely gruesome for the sake of the readers - like they did with the Nepalese. At least that is Laura Mansfield's point.
~Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 14, 2004 01:16 PM (D39Vm)
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thenausea.com has it too. Longer version. Gross.
How did these people come to be? How do they find such pleasure in such a barbaric act? How can they even do it without puking? I honestly do not know what makes terrorists tick.
Can anyone explain to me this mindset?
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 15, 2004 01:19 PM (D39Vm)
Posted by: mar at September 17, 2004 01:09 AM (nK2rj)
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I am appalled beyond words that this video was posted here. Where is your dignity for the family...i am not sure who is worse here, the animals in the video's or you for showing no respect for the victims families.
Remove it!!
Posted by: john at September 21, 2004 05:11 PM (Mzbt7)
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It's a real tuff one. To destroy all the footage is like choosing ignorance. I decided to watch the footage and my heart fell as before I had not imagined such acts of barbarity possible. What a complete and utter disregard for life. This breed of human has been grossly misinformed from birth.
If nothing else allow the footage of these poor innocent victims deaths to be shown in order to raise awareness.
Us as a species has made this World a very sick place to live and all based around our belief in something that has never been seen and doesn't exist!!!
Posted by: rhythmsync at September 22, 2004 06:51 AM (Emg3P)
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how can one feel sympathy for these people who have no value for human life. to do this inhumane taking of one's life so cruely can only increase the hatred of these animals ( then again an animal kills quickly and cleanly) these are not animals they are the hitlers reborn.
they are not fit to raise children nor fit to live. stopping the video is only making one turn a blind eye to these barbarians, wake up world face facts these people(garbage) need WASTING
Posted by: grandmother of 6 at September 22, 2004 09:33 AM (oElYZ)
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I agree with you grandmother of 6. The way they kill is slowly. They seem to get pleasure from doing this because they keep doing it the same way latlely. I can't stand these people. Are they imbreed? I don't understand how they can do this. I wish something could be done to kill off all of those people. All they are doing is taking up air.
Posted by: misty at September 23, 2004 01:08 PM (LKu2t)
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what i dont understand is how a person could do this to someone else. how do these people sleep at night? is this something that they can forget as an everyday thing? that is completely sick! everyone in the world has differences to other people. but to kill someone like that and at all to prove a point in unreal. these men had nothing to do with whats happening...
Posted by: pacifist pilot 22 at September 28, 2004 11:46 AM (jCYbF)
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its unbelieveable how sick these people are do they have no families
Posted by: emma at September 30, 2004 12:03 AM (nNYC+)
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these gutless bastards can't even show their faces for this so called cause! they even cover the eyes of their victims to blot out the shame. Death to them and their families, death to religion the root of ALL evil in this sad and twisted world. they sing and laugh but they will never be free from the evil they are living!!!
Posted by: vizi at October 08, 2004 02:52 PM (en5fQ)
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I don't blame those people, I blame Islam for that, and I think Sadam wes right to kill those kind of people like animal.
Posted by: Farha at October 09, 2004 03:19 PM (yMqeN)
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My friend recently returned from Iraq. He has been helping the Red Cross in digging wells for the people in the villages without water. You need to take a look at the destruction that the american army is doing over there. Children are dying daily from the massive air strikes in Fallujah. He says the soldiers kill innocent people for fun and have a total disregard for the iraqi people. They opened fire on a non-violent protest in May and killed 170 people. Just like that. We didn't hear about that one on CNN. Another ironic fact that he passed on was re: the Ministry of Oil and how that was the first building that was secured. It has to this day remained unscarred while the buildings around it are left to ruin. You know, 3 hard facts remain: 1. No WMD's found, 2. Tyrants have been untouched by the U.S in other nations such as Darfur Sudan, Moggabe in Zimbabwe, North Korea, Ivory Coast, the list goes on... Saddam (hand-picked by the americans) has now been found to have no real links with Al Quaeda as admitted by Rumsfeld. What is the difference between the tyrant of Iraq and those mentioned above?; 3. Bin Laden is still at large.
This is not a war, it is an invasion. The biggest lie comes from the puppet iraqi government and US forces stating that the insurgents want to create unrest in iraq. History tells us that the rich and powerful nations have always used propaganda and force to create unrest in developing countries rich with natural resources for their own purposes. One does not want to view their own country as being an invader of another, particularly us in the West, but the reality is, it's true.
Posted by: Mike at October 14, 2004 09:07 AM (Tf939)
Posted by: PD. at October 17, 2004 10:57 PM (mslHa)
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There are many animals and sadists in this world espessially in the middle east. When they are not put in a jail other people suffer. And it does not matter who they are. So Fucking W.Bush created mess in Irak. And now he has to be executed first. Then there will be peace.
All american propaganda must be put down . Most NATO people are fuckers.THOSE WHO ARE KILLED ARE INNOCENT. A couple of nuclear bombs would be good for the whole midle east. Then nobody would suffer any more. And nobody would fight for oil too. Fuck turks though. They are most fuckers in this world.They are the most garbage of this civilization. Their country should have been attacked instead but they have much oil. Some of them are good... . But you can not compare them with arab people. Turks are idiots at least and ass fuckers. Fuck all stupid europeans and other fuckers.
This is sadism. Nothing else- nobody proves nothing. All these guys should have been in jail at least. But there are many fuckers in this world who has to care for something but they don't. They want people to suffer. In conclusion fuck Bush and his friends including Turkey
Posted by: Mist at October 23, 2004 11:34 PM (eJyKS)
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i feel sad for those people who thinks they really know what's really going on to this war in iraq,telling that those beheading started because of the invasion of iraq. what the hella you thinkin? it just started when the video of american soldiers torturing iraqi prisoners were released. im not trying to justifify those DAMN AL ZARQAWI(they will go to hell for sure), what im trying to point here is that there are incidents occurs to that place that is beyond our knowledge because some are trying to protect their own brutality, thanks for those courageous and rightful one who set this things out. main thing is that all involved in here have their own gruesome acts.
Posted by: asskick at December 13, 2004 03:00 AM (zkW4C)
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every once in while earth become hell: eveything dies:and a fresh start 4 2morrow: are you guilty? this time may be caused by human era: hey i wish there was only 2 kind people, bad\good: but hey this world is full of evils and demons: they even ate "bad" 4 lunch: http://home.att.net/~slugbutter/evil/
who do you people you think you are? you can stress and get mad all you want: but @ the end we all die any way, how tuff R U?
Posted by: jack at May 08, 2005 02:55 AM (8dHrI)
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wait, Al Qaeda wants Islam to Rule The World.. So Whats The Point of Beheading Muslims? I have nothing against the Beheading of the Turk because i hate turks personnaly since im armenian.And Whats the point of giving such punishment.I Mean once they start cutting ur head off u might fall unconsience but for people who force to breath, ur brain had enough electrical charges to make ur hearth pump and make u breath, so acctualy u feal ur head detaching from ur body. This isnt right and i consider mass genocide muslims!!
Posted by: ArmoPride at June 12, 2005 09:34 PM (gFKqK)
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tell ken bigley ive discovered a miracle cure for soar throats,beheading is wicked i love it,if i could get away with it id do it to YOU!!!!!!
Posted by: NAUGHTY ROTTEN RHYMER at October 03, 2005 09:54 AM (DEWMB)
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Prager Show: Liveblogging
I'm listenning to Prager now, hosted by the guys at
Powerline,
Mitch of
Northern Alliance Radio Network,
Lileks, and others.. Charles Johnson is being interviewed. Awesome.
Listen live here.
12:18 Charles talks about the probability that documents are real. Slim to none. Talks about his superimposing experiment which can be found here. Virtually identical to modern Word document. A full list of Charles' posts can be found here. This flash movie also overlays a Word created document making the same point, but is uses a different font. (via Commisar who got it from Dudemasicus)
12:21 Coming up, interview with the guys from Kerryspot. It's Jim Geraghty.
12:26 How does the story compare to the Jason Blayre mess at the NY Times? This is worse. Obvious forgeries, duped or complicit.
12:35 Commercial break. I was in class this morning. I wish I had heard the earlier part of this broadcast.
12:39 Caller "Everybody is a Bush loving idiot who listens to Talk Radio...Dennis Prager is a self-hating Jew" Conpiracy theories..Bush/Haliburton, blah blah.
12:42 John Fund of WSJ up next.
12:44 Commercial. Stupid capitalism. Why liveblog this? Why not? Never done it before, plus I'm technically on my lunch break.
12:48 Nope, it's Scott Ott. He called in. Funny. He's plugging his e-mail post. Is Scott Ott that much of a whore to plug his blog on national radio? Yes. Dumb question. Kudos for your whorishness!!
12:50 Now it's John Fund. Talking about the potential for lawsuits in the upcoming election. Dem lawyers waiting to file lawsuits in keys states. Man, I am not looking forward to the day after the election. I usually stay up late. Why do I have the feeling that it will be weeks or months before all the lawsuits are settled? Thanks a lot Al Gore, you prick.
12:56 Q: What is the deal with the bumper music? Come on, Sheila-E???
1:11 Kerry carried around a hat that belonged to a CIA agent he dropped off in Cambodia? Never heard that one. Pretty freaking funny since he's never been to Cambodia.
1:52 Interesting, interesting, very interesting...but now I've lost interest.
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Oh yeah, the Kerry Magic Hat is a major piece of weirdness that needs to be publicized as much as possible. Check Lileks site a few weeks ago for coverage of the wacky story Kerry told an incredibly gullible reporter. It says a lot about the veracity of Kerry's claimed history vs. the Swifties.
Posted by: Eric Pobirs at September 14, 2004 03:04 PM (Yn/eX)
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Tamika Huston, Missing
David Anderson of In
Search of Utopia has asked that bloggers help in locating Tamika Huston.
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Thanks Rusty, much appreciated!
Posted by: David Anderson at September 13, 2004 12:34 PM (VCVxu)
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Saw this on his blog. So am up to date, sometimes a step ahead.
Wish I could figure out how to start a blog, I'd carry those video's just so everybody in the US with or without computers could see what we are really dealing with over there.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 10:53 PM (D39Vm)
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Monday Morning Blogs: The Breakfast of Champions
The best way to start a work week, especially after the Blog Sabbath, is with a hearty breakfast. Remember,
remove pajamas before eating. Here's what I'm having today:
-Toast. Damn! Why'd you have to burn it? No problem, just spread the denial jelly on real thick.
--Mushroom omelette (South Korean style), covered with Feta cheese.
--Pepsi. For breakfast? That's crazy talk, Al. (Al-"We think it would be in your best interest.....")
--Ginkgo Biloba tablets
--Kosher bacon.
And that's all the breakfast that's fit to blog. I'll be in class. Page me if the fit hits the shan.
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I'll be in class.
It seems like you're taking this whole "education" and "career" thing a bit too seriously.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at September 13, 2004 11:57 AM (UJmxc)
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I just got this memo where Bush FORGOT the Alamo. Where do I send a copy?
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at September 13, 2004 12:10 PM (7XPVo)
Posted by: Jane at September 13, 2004 02:12 PM (Pbs6a)
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What Jane said. But I mean it.
Posted by: Gordon at September 13, 2004 02:51 PM (7sq4M)
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I'm with Leopold - is this what we expect every Monday?
:-)
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 10:55 PM (D39Vm)
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September 11, 2004
9/11
This is a repost from
Aug. 30. I notice that the e-mail that the photo comes from is
still making the rounds. I for one, will never forget. It was a day that changed my entire worldview. A day that woke me up from the pleasant slumber where I dreamed of the spread of love and liberalism to the farthest corner of the globe. Now I am awake.
Where I was is not important. What is important is
where I am now.
A moment of silence............
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Dr. Leopold Stotch forwared this to me this. The e-mail that went along with it reads:
The proud warriors of Baker Company wanted to do something to pay tribute To our fallen comrades. So since we are part of the only Marine Infantry Battalion left in Iraq the one way that we could think of doing that is By taking a picture of Baker Company saying the way we feel. It would be awesome if you could find a way to share this with our fellow countrymen. I was wondering if there was any way to get this into your papers to let the world know that "WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN" and are proud to serve our country." Semper Fi
1stSgt Dave Jobe
The attached photo was forwarded from one of the last U.S. Marine companies in Iraq. They would like to have it passed to as many people as possible, to let the folks back home know that they remember why they're there and that they remember those who've been lost.
You know what to do.
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I saw this on Wizbang and loved it. If you enlarge the picture, it's the people of Baker company that make out the words and numbers. Very cool of them to do. God Bless them!
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 10:59 PM (D39Vm)
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More Forgery Evidence: Staudt Discharged Prior to Memo Date
Seattle Times:
The man named in a disputed memo as exerting pressure to "sugarcoat" George W. Bush's military record left the Texas Air National Guard a year and a half before the memo supposedly was written, his service record shows.
An order obtained by The Dallas Morning News shows that Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt was honorably discharged March 1, 1972. CBS News reported this week that a memo in which Staudt was described as interfering with officers' negative evaluations of the future president's service was dated Aug. 18, 1973.
Unbelievabley, CBS tries to explain this little detail away by saying:
From what we've learned, Staudt remained very active after he retired," the staffer said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "He was a very bullying type, and that could have continued."
Could have? And the Lakers could have won the championship game last year, but they didn't.
In the disputed memo, Killian supposedly wrote "(another officer) gave me a message today from group regarding Bush's (evaluation) and Staudt is pushing to sugarcoat it."
It continues: "Austin is not happy either."
The CBS staffer said the memo appears to recognize that Staudt has retired, since it differentiates between his displeasure and that of Austin, where he served his final Guard stint.
But another Texas Air National Guard official who served in that period said the memo appears to wrongly associate Staudt with his group command in Houston, and — based on that mistake — the memo distinguishes his views from that of the Austin Guard.
Retired Col. Earl Lively, director of Air National Guard operations for the state headquarters during 1972 and 1973, said Staudt "wasn't on the scene" after retirement, and that CBS' remote-bullying thesis makes no sense.
"He couldn't bully them. He wasn't in the Guard," Lively said. "He couldn't affect their promotions. Once you're gone from the Guard, you don't have any authority."
Haven't checked other blog reaction to this yet or if this is news to people or not.
Mucho gracias Dr. Leopold Stotch who e-mailed me about it.
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The whole thing is a dumb distraction anyway, but it's so fucking entertaining to see CBS squirm!
Posted by: jeff at September 11, 2004 04:04 PM (5qpex)
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That might be true, Jeff. Unfortunately many people don't go to their computers for news, but TV or newspaper but mostly TV and do not realize this is all forged paperwork. I guess Kerry will do just about anything to drag that man down to his level in the mud. And if he does, it only gets nastier. Dan Rather is not giving up on this even if he is squirming a little bit, he's not squirming enough and Kerry is taking it to heart and the Democrats, like Tom Harkin are using it to destroy the President ie same as Kitty Kelly (I only know of one person called Kitty and megads, worst woman I ever knew). Now he's pushing the AK-47's problem on Bush when that is Congresses fault - meaning Kerry who didn't vote again. George Bush has proved himself over the last 4 years, Kerry has proved himself over the last 20 - who has a better record, perfect or not? President Bush. How do we convince the rest of the country?
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 11:07 PM (D39Vm)
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HAVE ALL THE BLOGGERS CONSIDERED WRITING THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO BE KNOWN TO "LETTERS TO THE EDITORS" OF LOCAL NEWSPAPERS?
~c
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 13, 2004 11:09 PM (D39Vm)
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September 10, 2004
I'm Dan Rather, Bitch!
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Dan Rather is done. He's elected to go down with the ship. I just saw his "report" in which he basically defended the forged documents without addressing any of the fisking they've undergone. More importantly, he's staying with the angle that the validity of the documents is secondary to the charges contained therein. An asinine justification at best.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at September 10, 2004 05:45 PM (dal9S)
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I loved it when one of the CBS "experts" claimed the White House was relying on "the blogosphere" to attack the documents. The fact nobody had to be told what the blogosphere might be suggests the VRWC blog swarm is winning this thing no matter what CBS has to say.
Posted by: Ghost of a flea at September 10, 2004 05:48 PM (E9LCW)
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Dan: "I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!"
Blogosphere: "You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?"
Posted by: See-Dubya at September 10, 2004 06:18 PM (5LJua)
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I updated my investigation into this tonight. I cannot believe the arrogance of the media (especially CBS) on this issue. They are totally acting as though these documents might be real. Heck, the DNC is sending out mail alerts to its supporters and creating strategy based on these forged doucuments.
Check out my analysis:
http://rupertzone.net
I am surprised more people aren't creating their own forgeries of the forgery to help prove the facts.
Posted by: Rupert at September 10, 2004 08:22 PM (pOTP4)
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One thing you'll never hear anyone at Fox News say:
"The reputation and integrity of the entire news division is at stake, if we are in error, it will be corrected," a top CBS source explained late Thursday.
Posted by: The Gov at September 11, 2004 01:29 AM (Hv/iO)
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What are people doing here? Dan Rather is one of the more insightful and respected anchors around. Maybe he screwed up here, maybe not, but why is that when news organizations question the government these days -- which IS their job in a free democracy, after all -- some people seem to think they are being unpatriotic. Fox News led us into this war barely even batting a questioning glance at any of the issues. In a country where the people have the power, that's the most dangerous.
Posted by: heq at September 15, 2004 01:04 AM (qOy+A)
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Fox news led us into a war? That's news to me!
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 15, 2004 03:43 PM (D39Vm)
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A: Fox News has more credibility (and more viewers) than CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC combined. All your news are belong to Fox.
B: QUOTE:
Dan Rather is one of the more insightful and respected anchors around. Maybe he screwed up here, maybe not, but why is that when news organizations question the government these days -- which IS their job in a free democracy, after all -- some people seem to think they are being unpatriotic.
END-QUOTE
So...does that mean news organizations can LIE and FABRICATE stories as long as they're questioning the government? Dissen't isn't unpatriotic. Dishonesty, dishonor, and Dan Rather is.
Posted by: Che Castro at September 18, 2004 01:33 PM (0oTuw)
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Rather Lied, People Died
I just like the sound of it. Wake me up when the smoke clears. Screw you guys I'm going home.
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Posted by: Brian B at September 10, 2004 04:40 PM (OnnW3)
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Yeah, I haven't covered this crap either. Prove it's forged, screw the guy who did it and those involved and lets move one already...
Posted by: Digger at September 10, 2004 07:10 PM (FYEx6)
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Italian Hostage Murder Watch
Ansar al-Zawahiri has given the Italian government less than 24 hrs. to release Muslim women prisoners or the world they will kill Simona Pari and Simon Torretta.
Savages.
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Gee, didn't they just recently say that it's a sin to kill women and children? Even "they" don't know what Islam is... sickening. What about the other two Iraqi humanitarian workers? What has happened to the two french journalists? We going to see them on some propaganda film one of these days?
Italy won't give in, they havent' so far. Killing these women will only worsen their cause.
Al Sadr dead yet? Should be.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 10, 2004 03:56 PM (D39Vm)
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Problem is, I hear there are no women prisoners being held by the coalition. I will admit it is hard for little ol' me to check my sources, but that doesn't seem to stop CBS so I'm sure you can forgive me.
Posted by: Wild Bill at September 10, 2004 05:09 PM (ni17g)
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{Smile} Hey Wild Bill, you know what they do with women, don't ya? Go back to Beslan School, Russia; not only did they rape and kill some of the girls and women (when they had time to do that I have no idea) but it's a fact that this was done, among other things. In that part of the world there is no respect for women and these two women who were abducted along with two Iraqi's (men or women??? notice noone says what sex the other 2 are?) are way too pretty for them not to do their "thing" with them. At the Russian seige, one idiot blew up the woman for the hell of it, so I sure hope these women are rather strong emotionally/psychologically. As to women prisoners, I have yet to hear of any, although I'm sure there must be but since women are degraded over there, useless and worthless, I'd say the odds are that any female prisoners in the US or Coalition forces is probably unlikely.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 10, 2004 06:39 PM (D39Vm)
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Ok so you guys might find these facts kinda interesting.
Dr. Khiltdon wrote a book about the phycology of Terrorist. The funny part is that it goes deep in their emotional being and it all comes down to some hidden homosexual desires.
I thought this was funny because they are so against homosexuality, yet internally thats what each Terrorist is fighting, so in essense they should just acknowledge their homosexuality and make love not war.
Posted by: THE TRUTH at September 12, 2004 11:06 AM (3+LTh)
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Do we need more evidence that Bush is escalating a war on terror? It's a good time to step back and ask ourselves whether attacking a country that didn't have an Islamic extremist problem and turning it into a breeding and training grounds for Islamic extremists, while angering the rest of the Arab world, alienating our own allies, and moving our focus away from the guys who attacked us on 9/11 (anyone remember bin Laden? -- three years is too long!) is really the best approach. This war is costing us an awful lot of money (not to mention lives, God bless them).
The point isn't really whether the terrorists are justified in what they're going. The point is whether WE are going about this in the best possible way.
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Iraqi Policemen Held Hostage, Threatened with Murder
This is a good sign. Why? Because it confirms what Rumsfield and co. have been saying: the Iraqis are slowly becoming the frontline in the war on the insurgency. The terrorists feel the threat is now coming from the interim government as much as they do from the Coalition. Let's just hope these guys make it out alive.
Reuters:
An Iraqi rebel group has seized four Iraqi policemen in Najaf and threatened to kill them unless police agree to stop hunting insurgents and pressuring rebel cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, Al Jazeera television said Friday.
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Of course they consider them a threat. Why do you think they keeping bombing, suicide bombing, car bombing police stations and training areas? If these people stand up for themselves, which they SHOULD be doing anyway, they CAN indeed stop the terrorists in their country. Look at the massive demonstrations against Al Sadr whom they do not want in their cities now? He and his Mehdi army are getting them killed and they want no part of him. Why can't we infiltrate and assinate the bastard? The Interim Government is deciding on whom to bomb and when, so these terrorist better learn that sooner or later, the Iraqi's will have to take care of their own country and pronto.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 10, 2004 04:00 PM (D39Vm)
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Ok, it says 4 were abducted but no word since. They just found 3 bodies with their heads tied on the bodies; Since they were Arabs, I wonder if those 3 bodies are these policemen by any chance?
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 15, 2004 01:24 PM (D39Vm)
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Forget Dan Rather, I Demand an Apology from Tom Harkin
Forget
Dan Rather, Tom Harkin is the real slimeball here. Yesterday the
old media at CNN led footage of Tom Harkin demanding an investigation into George W. Bush's alleged failure to obey a direct command to report for a physical and
some media continued the story today:
"Character counts, especially in the president of the United States," Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said at DNC headquarters.
"If the president lies about this, he could lie about how we got into Iraq," he added....
"There's a difference here, there's a real difference here," Harkin said. "There's documents to back up John Kerry. The documents do not back up George W. Bush."
The Vietnam War was not the real issue, Harkin said. The real issue, he said, was that Bush has continued to lie about his service during recent interviews.
"The president has repeatedly insisted he did not receive any special treatment to get into the (Texas Air National) Guard. We now know this isn't true."
"This is not about whether George W. Bush met his commitment, served his country 30 years ago," he said. "This isn't about Vietnam. ...
"This is about George Bush sitting in the Oval Office telling Tim Russert, quote, 'I did my duty.'
"We now know this was not true. And the president also knows, and knew, this is not true."....
"Democrats did not make this an issue. The president did," Harkin said.
"He made it an issue by not being truthful about whether he did his duty for America, (and) he made it an issue by falsely claiming all of his records had been released." ....
"These are not allegations. These are not speculations. These are hard, cold facts," Harkin said. "And the president, and only the president, can clear it up."
This is an outrageous statement now that we know the reports that he 'violated a direct order' are based on what are probably forged documents? I demand an apology from this man. Where is the accountability out there? Where are you good Iowans? Don't let Harkin get away with this.
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Amen. I watched Harkins last night, and was getting livid. When the smoke clears, and the memos are proven false, he is going to have a lot of answering to do. The GOP needs to go for his throat.
Posted by: Brian B at September 10, 2004 12:39 PM (OnnW3)
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I was waiting for someone to pick up on this. Tom Harkin was on TV with Paula Zahn at least 2 nights ago blabbering his nonsense off. Before people saw him stand at a podium and say the President needs to explain this.. blah blah blah. It's a safe bet, he pretty much started this new roll on Bush. Glad someone caught it besides me.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 10, 2004 12:53 PM (D39Vm)
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"If the president lies about this, he could lie about how we got into Iraq," he added....
Now I'm confused. I thought that Harkin said Bush has already lied about Iraq.
Posted by: Chad Evans at September 10, 2004 01:22 PM (yOAEr)
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Chad,
If the left could lie about the President lying about this, they could lie about him lying about how we got into Iraq.
Posted by: Brian B at September 10, 2004 01:51 PM (OnnW3)
Posted by: MCJ at September 10, 2004 02:00 PM (5KNJx)
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Nice link drop. I love it.
Posted by: RS at September 10, 2004 02:13 PM (JQjhA)
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Tom Harkin is going to have a very hard time wiggling out of this spot and we might as well flush the toilet now on him because when election time comes again for him, we'll never see him again. Hopefully those he represents will have his shirt and get him out of there pretty fast. One can only hope....
~C
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Podhoretz: The Revolution has begun and thy name is Blogging
Jane's NY Post column was cut for
this one from John Podhoretz which describes yesterday's big blog event: the Fisking of CBS:
THE populist revolu tion against the so- called mainstream media continues. Yesterday, the citizen journalists who produce blogs on the Internet — and their engaged readers — engaged in the wholesale exposure of what appears to be a presidential-year dirty trick against George W. Bush.
What the bloggers and their audiences did was call into profound question the authenticity of four documents proudly trumpeted by CBS News in a much-heralded investigative report on Wednesday night's edition of "60 Minutes" about the president's National Guard service in the early 1970s.
Er, can I just add that I was the blogger who called for some foot to brake action on yesterday's events. Sorry. My bad.
The Minneapolis lawyers who run powerlineblog.com were on the case early. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to a note left on an Internet bulletin board on the freerepublic.com Web site — the 47th posting on the topic there.
Post No. 47 pointed out that there was something off about these documents from the 1970s: The spacing between the letters and the words was proportional, and only a few IBM electric typewriters could achieve that effect back then.
From there it was off to the races. Once anyone who had had experience writing and typing in the 1970s began examining the documents, it was impossible not to see some weird anachronisms that suggested they had been crafted not on a 1970s typewriter, but using Microsoft Word.
Charles Johnson, who runs the wonderful littlegreenfootballs.com, simply typed one of the memos over using Microsoft Word's New Times Roman font and, lo and behold, the document came out exactly identical to the one on the CBS site, down to the letter spacing.
What was awesome about Charles' simple experiment was that I heard Brit Hume say one of his producers replicated it with the same result. The power of LGF knows know bounds. All hail Charles Johnson and his bicycle which made it all possible!
By 3 o'clock, the very careful and honest Jim Geraghty, who produces invaluable material every day on nationalreview.com's Kerry Spot, was saying flatly, "CBS had better have one heck of a defense for this."
Where are th props for
Bill? Yo, Bill is in da house too yo. Dissed.
Ok, so the Rupert Murdoch lackeys over at the Post dissed him, but not the Chicago Sun-Times.
Another blogger, Bill Ardolino at INDC Journal, who had read Powerline, said, "I decided to find a top typeface expert and ran his analysis on my Web site."
Awesome, but why no
linky-love in the text of the article? Old media meet new citation method: the URL.
Still reeling from yesterday. Stayed up late to see how the old media covered it. Some good roundups out there of yesterday's happening. Pixy Misa is a good place to start. Possible light posting day.
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Thanks Rusty.
I did give preferential treatment to Munuvians, but I made sure I hit the most important players so far - Powerline, INDC and LGF.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 10, 2004 10:31 AM (+S1Ft)
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Thanks bro.
The WT advises Tony Blankley is looking at my new article "Bloggers Give the Media Back a Story." But there's going to be a lot of submissions on this I think. See how calm I am. The waiting gets easier with experience.
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September 09, 2004
Team America: World Police
Can I just remind you that
Team America comes out next month? The pic below the fold is from the movie. It's the subtle nuances of the pic that really get me.
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Aint that the Eifel Tower they just wasted. LMAO!
Posted by: David Anderson at September 09, 2004 10:57 PM (VCVxu)
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I'm really hoping my friends in China get this copied onto fake DVDs quick smart so I can watch it before every blogger in the world spoils it by detailing every bit of the movie.
If you've got a video camera, Rusty, we could do some serious biz...
Posted by: Simon at September 10, 2004 01:05 AM (OyeEA)
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Nazi War Crime Tribunal Begins
No, not
that Nazi--a real one. G
uardian:
An 86-year-old Nazi death squad commander went on trial in Munich yesterday, accused of the slaughter of 164 Slovak villagers in what could turn out to be the last war crimes trial from the second world war.
Ladislav Niznansky is accused of heading the Slovak section of the Edelweiss unit, which hunted partisans and Jews in Czechoslovakia after Germany crushed an uprising against its puppet government.
Mr Niznansky is accused of taking part in the massacre of 146 people in two Slovakian villages in 1945 and later ordering the execution of 18 Jews, some of them children, who were discovered hiding nearby.
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Crow now in mouth, doesn't taste so bad
Can I just put a word in for my own defense? I put forth a general rule about hypothesis testing that the null hypothesis should be maintained unless there is a 95% probablity that the nullification is accurate. In other words, you maintain the status quo unless you are quite positive about the results of your hypothesis testing. In this case, the status quo was that the documents were authenitic. Therefore, it is up to those who wish to disprove this to make more than a compelling case, but to make an overwhelming case. The reason? Remember cold fusion? In that experiment there was some evidence that cold fusion was happening. However, it later turned out to be wrong. Evidence can always be found to maintain a theoritical proposition, what you need to turn a proposition into a theory is overwhelming evidence. And lots of it! Because in science we general assume the greater risk is in saying that we have proven a theory when we have not. Scientists are conservative by nature.
Kuhn, in his famous book, describe the process of scientific revolution as a process by which old paradigms are thrown out and new ones are brought in. I believe we have just witnessed a major paradigm shift. It is the deathknell of the old media, and the ringing in of something completely different. I always looked at my blog as a way of putting out ideas, but that I should have a lot of evidence before putting out anything radically new. The blogosphere was alive today with what seemed like conspiritorial statements, but were really a conversation. The conversation started with a question, leading to more questions, and then we pulled in experts who seemed to concur with many initial suspicions. I still maintain that many of the early bloggers on this jumped the gun in declaring a slam dunk victory, but it seems that most were simply interested in the conversation. Forget the swiftie thing, it took us weeks to get the mainstream press in on the story. This...this took a matter of hours. We are the press now.
You know what, I was there the day the blogosphere changed the news media. That one guy who put in the research--I know that guy. That guy e-mails me saucy videos. The other guy--man, I knew that guy back in the day bro. He links me, man. He's my homie, essay! That's what I feel like. I was there man. I was there.
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Thanks. I tried to cover it skeptically, but when arguably the best expert in the nation calls you back and says he's almost positive it's fake after a day's analysis ... time to start picking out a spot on your wall for Dan Rather's stuffed head.
Posted by: Bill from INDC at September 09, 2004 09:22 PM (aQqMH)
Posted by: RS at September 09, 2004 09:37 PM (JQjhA)
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Rusty, You still get my undying respect for being the "voice in the wilderness" telling everyone to chill out.
Of course, you didn't get 87+ trackbacks and an Instalanche. Sorry to rub it in, just sayin'
Posted by: gordon at September 09, 2004 09:40 PM (dEFhD)
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Ha. I'm just a bit player in this one, Russ, but thanks for the mention. All credit to Powerline, INDC, LGF, and whoever it was who got the ball rolling on Free Republic.
Posted by: Allah at September 09, 2004 10:11 PM (AaBEz)
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I also appreciate the mention and the comment you left at my site. I posted the following comment in response to yours:
No reason to eat crow as far as I am concerned. I admire your restraint and desire to have some solid proof. It is also commendable that you set a standard for what that proof would entail and held out until it was met. You do however need to be careful not to ruin the reputation of bloggers as reactionary right wing wackos.
Posted by: infidel cowboy at September 09, 2004 10:34 PM (KPzwZ)
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I have to throw in my 2 cents here too...
I thought you did an admirable job of maintaining a somewhat cynical eye. That was definitely a brake on the 'lunacy'.
In other words, you were deftly applying the 'brake' while our other bloggers were hitting 'accelerate'. Both have their place...really, I believe that without the 'conscience' of the blogosphere, this wouldn't have gone down the way it had...
...so in essence, your cynicism going into the event helped pace the blogosphere reaction...because they knew their own ass would be fact-checked.
Now, we have a situation where 60-friggin-minutes looks like a bunch of school boys. You can't help but love that.
All props to INDC for REALLY breaking the story. A blogger doing original research...and the NY Times told us it couldn't happen...
(P.S. I...love...ellipses...)
Posted by: CG at September 09, 2004 11:56 PM (713zz)
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Ya know, just a thought here...(once again with the ellipses) I was just watching Nightline when they said that the memos were 'circulated' by the white house AFTER they were received from CBS.
Anyone else think that maybe the white house circulated these papers
knowing, that they were easily debunked?
I mean, hell, that's what I'd do...
Posted by: CG at September 10, 2004 12:04 AM (713zz)
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What'dya mean emailing smutty videos? You've got my email address, right?
Posted by: Simon at September 10, 2004 01:06 AM (FUPxT)
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"I put forth a general rule about hypothesis testing that the null hypothesis should be maintained unless there is a 95% probablity that the nullification is accurate. In other words, you maintain the status quo unless you are quite positive about the results of your hypothesis testing. In this case, the status quo was that the documents were authenitic."
If only CBS applied the same rule to their own reporting. Without proof of the authenticity of the documents, they should never have assumed their authenticity.
Posted by: Ghost of a flea at September 10, 2004 09:36 AM (biGfd)
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"In this case, the status quo was that the documents were authenitic."
Dr. Shackleford,
This brings up a very interesting question, in my mind. Why on earth should that have been the status quo? Has CBS earned that level of credibility?
As you know, I took a wait and see approach with this story. I think your warning *was* a good one-- it is exactly the type of correcting and cautioning mechanism that helps ensure that the crappy allegations of the blogosphere get filtered out. It just works out that in this case, your warnings were not needed. In other cases, they will be.
When I got home from work the day the story broke, I spent an hour or so looking deeper than I could when I posted my "wait and see" post. After that hour, I was in deep. The 95% probability that they were forged was more than exceeded. There was zero chance, absolute zero, that they were real.
Don't hang your head. You were sounding prudent caution. Just because no car was coming, does not mean that it was wrong to say "look both ways before crossing the street".
Gerry
Posted by: Gerry at September 14, 2004 08:33 AM (rXl7J)
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At least after this debacle, I disagree that the null hypothesis is that the docs are legit. The onus of proof is on the person who makes a positive assertion. CBS asserted the docs were legit. Previously, we have assumed that if someone in the MSM makes an assertion, they have some evidence. So we have put the onus of proof on their detractors. No more.
The null hypothesis now is that the docs are bogus. The onus is on CBS to prove otherwise (at a 95% confidence level). In this case, it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Dana at September 15, 2004 09:23 AM (KhiuX)
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