August 28, 2004
David Hicks: Australian Taliban
You know what's sad? When you find out your son is a terrorist. First comes denial. After that, more denial. Then, you blame the US. After that, you look for meaning in your sons admission to being a terrorist by seeking out his Islamofascist friends. Then, you enter into some more denial. After that, you blame the US again. Finally, you get it right. Your son was just a misunderstood idealist fighting for his vision of the ideal world.
Unfortunately for you, your son's vision of the ideal world is one where women are not allowed to go to school, Jews and Christians are second-class citizens, blasphemers are stoned or beheaded, and American civillians are the intentional targets of murder.
I heard about this on NPR today. NPR Online:
Among the four suspects is 29-year-old David Hicks, an Australian who was captured by the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan in 2001. A convert to Islam, Hicks had gone to Pakistan to study the religion and ended up in Afghanistan, where he joined the Taliban. At the tribunal, Hicks pleaded not guilty to charges of attempted murder, conspiring to commit war crimes and aiding the enemy. His trial is set to start in January.
Terry Hicks, David's father, traveled to Cuba for the tribunal and had an emotional reunion with his son, whom he had not seen in five years. When Hicks was first transferred from Afghanistan to Guantanamo, his father decided to retrace David's steps through Pakistan and Afghanistan to try to find out what had happened along the way. A camera crew accompanied him and produced The President Versus David Hicks, a documentary that examines Hicks' tangled journey.
Terry Hicks speaks with NPR's Jennifer Ludden about the trip and what it taught him about his son. "He always tried to help out where he could," says Hicks, "in his own way, that was probably what he was doing."
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What got me was when Terry Hicks told his son that he never had to apologize for "following his beliefs." Pardon me? If he believes his parents deserve to be chattel slaves he doesn't need to apologize? Sorry, but he'd damnwell better apologize to me, because a suckass philososphy is a suckass philosophy. I'd give the bastard life, just on general principles.
Posted by: Demosophist at August 28, 2004 08:22 PM (turqZ)
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Somehow I just can't work up much empathy for this family. Poor ol' daddy hasn't seen his son in 5 years .. kids haven't seen their daddy in no telling how long. I guess those Afghani mercenary wages paid good child support. Nope, no empathy but lots of disgust.
Posted by: bj at August 28, 2004 08:30 PM (zOnAE)
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Check out Tim Blair for snippets of Hicks' loathesome anti-Semitic letters. Now he's whining like the Marin Al Qaeda. He's lucky he's alive. Did no one tell the creep that if you run off to join a war, bad things might happen? Let him take his medicine.
Posted by: jeff at August 28, 2004 10:22 PM (SZ3KS)
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There is a lesson here for the soldier. Prisoners eat, shit and take up more time than they are worth.
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at August 29, 2004 02:17 PM (7XPVo)
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At least we can see where the nuttiness comes from in that family.
Posted by: Simon at August 30, 2004 04:42 AM (UKqGy)
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First, have some compassion for a father whose nearly-worst nightmare comes true. Parents rationalize things like this; it's what they're meant to do. The rest of the world isn't thrilled with (or perhaps hates) the kid. He probably deserves at least one or two advocates.
Second, as long as we're criticizing the kid, we might as well at least understand what he did. He joined up with the Taliban, who contrary to media reports are not fundamentally terrorists. There is a distinction between the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Technically the Taliban are a group of fundamentalist religious scholars. They took over in Afghanistan during a power vacuum there, and bin Laden, who grew up in a fundamentalist household himself, decided they were pretty cool. Of course, it probably didn't hurt that bin Laden was forbidden to re-enter just about every other country where he'd once been welcome.
The Taliban themselves weren't too well-liked. The vast majority of the world wouldn't even talk to them. Being fundamentalist, they were terrible businessmen, so they had to rely on support from, shall we say, unconventional means. In this case:
1. Pakistan, who really didn't like them all that much but didn't feel like having a chaotic nation next door.
2. Opium. Nothing says "pure and moral" like making money off of the opium trade.
3. Bin Laden. He didn't actually give them all that much, but keep in mind they were REALLY, REALLY poor. He basically bought them Toyota pickup trucks and crude weapons.
Even after meeting bin Laden, the Taliban didn't really have it out for America. 95% of them probably couldn't have pinpointed America on a map. They were religious scholars. If it wasn't in the Koran, it wasn't important. So this kid, who obviously was drifting in life -- his wishy-washy dad probably didn't give him a rudder -- finally stumbled upon some certainty. Made a few friends. Found some meaning and purpose in his life.
I'm not a moral relativist, i.e. I don't excuse people for doing dumb things based on their history. However, I do think that before condemning them you might as well least know what their offense is.
Posted by: jlr at August 30, 2004 07:48 AM (NVC8t)
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You lot are all a bunch of laffs honestly!!! U dont hav a clue wot ur on about?? ...i think u anti muslim lot hav a thing for story makin eh??? ....so creative...i admire u all!!!
Posted by: Aneesa at January 28, 2005 02:06 PM (siFAl)
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Check this site out.
http://fairgofordavid.blogspot.com/
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Regardless of his location when detained, it remains a fact that this guy had been imprisoned and kept without trial for *years*. Can you imagine the outcry of he'd been an American citizen?
Surely if there is enough evidence that he is guilty of some crime then he should have been before a court by now? If there isn't enough evidence then what the hell is he doing still sitting in a jail in Cuba?
Either he's done something that deserves indefinite imprisonment or her hasn't. It's time his 'crimes' were examined in a valid court.
This is *not* justice.
Posted by: Welsh Dog at May 19, 2005 07:16 PM (j1fi0)
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This skinhead wants to enslave women and stone men and women for adultry, keep sex slaves as sanctioned by the Koran the toilet book, absolutely rule on mankind and deny humanity their human rights, and then kill jews and others who he deems inferior and a threat.
What he is getting is too soft.
Let him go on trial and get life for his fascism and murder.
How many Afghanis has he killed? Would this skinhead fascist like to confess?
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Dyke accuses Blair over Iraq war
I just like the headline. '
Dyke'.
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Two Women Suspected of Russian Airline Bombings
Chechen ERA:
Russian investigators announced today explosives were found on both planes that crashed with the loss of 90 lives, as attention focussed on the roles of two dead female passengers believed to be of Chechen origin.
The Russian press was quick to paint the pair as the latest in a line of female suicide bombers from the strife-torn Caucasus republic to strike, citing their suspected ethnic origins and the fact no relatives have come forward to claim their remains.
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Lying is bad, mmm-kay
A guy get's fired because he lied about an affair he had ten years ago so he must be lying about John Kerry too, right? But I thought lying about extra-marital affairs was the one kind of lie that was ok?
Oliver Willis:
But people are trusting this guy and his pals more than the US Navy? For shame.
Right, the
US Navy is backing up
Kerry's version. What was that Superman metaphor again?
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If we weren't in Iraq, there would be no hostages....
...right?
Wapo:
An Iraqi militant group has kidnapped two Frenchmen and given the French government 48 hours to end a ban on Muslim headscarves, Arabic television station Al Jazeera said on Saturday.
Now, is that the same France I'm thinking of? Because, to be honest, I'm a bit confused.
Of course, there would be less hostages if we had not invaded Iraq. But, that's just like saying "if people would stop going into the Bear's den, then the Bear would stop killing people in the Bear's den." Yup, true. But the bear is a bear, no matter where he is. We are in a war. We can let the enemy choose the battlefield, or we can choose it ourselves.
(Hat tip: AIR)
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"We are in a war. We can let the enemy choose the battlefield, or we can choose it ourselves." That's exactly what President Bush has done.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 28, 2004 11:16 PM (D39Vm)
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I've been following the hostages pretty closely and think you have been too. To my knowledge this is the first instance of a hostage being taken that is not directly related to the war in Iraq, but rather due to France's law regarding muslim women and hijab. Think this is the case?
Posted by: tallglassofmilk at August 29, 2004 03:37 AM (s6c4t)
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Quit picking on Bears, dammit. ;]
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My 3 Year Old is the Mack Daddy
My friend
Henry Hill wore something like this once.
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Kerry's 1971 Senate Testimony Online
Jeff Quinton has it. And to the trolls who think that serving in the military makes you immune from criticism, please watch the video
then tell me
John Kerry is a hero. Also
here is what one POW confronted while in the Hanoi Hilton:
The interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. And he starts pounding on the table, "Well see here is this Naval officer, he [John Kerry] admits that you are a criminal and that you deserve punishment."
Just remember,
John Kerry did not say that
some had committed war crimes and should be punished, but that:
I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.
Yeah, some war hero.
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When John Kerry gave this speech, my late husband was still in Vietnam. He had spent 6 years in the service, graduated OCS, was a paratrouper, ranger, US Army, Green Berets, Special Forces. He had been shot once and returned to duty. His two years as an ADVISOR are not on record although I do have the papers noting his discharge date, et al. My late husband's camp,(spoke fluent Vietnamese),where he taught the South Vietnamese to kill got overrun, somewhat like in "Platoon." I do not remember the name of the type of bomb used but it blew up in the air, not landing on the ground and blowing up. He was seriously, critically wounded and it was a huge surprise that he even survived this at all. It was because of John Kerry and others like him that made it so difficult for these US hero forces to come back and try to live in normal society. That was impossible. They have learned a lot since then for now they have a clear line to psychologists, psychiatrists, debriefing, repatriation into family, then society. But back then,a soldier was afraid to even admit he was in Vietnam and was met with disdain. They were also afraid of getting "help" because it was "taboo." As time went by, he became mentally ill and dangerous to be around. In June of 1978 he was in a motorcycle accident from which he did not survive. Prior to the machines being shut off, his soul touched me and others letting us know he was finally at peace. It was people like John Kerry and his protesting group that made it very difficult for these heroic men to return home, changed, destroyed, in a drug-free world and none of them were the same ever again. This man, John Kerry, made it very difficult for all those who returned, those who are dead, those who are POW-MIA's, and the walking dead. They could not fit into society and they could not function. I blame John Kerry for that because he was the one who said he was speaking for ALL the Vietnam soldiers. John Kerry only spent 4 months in service compared to the heroic and deadly time my late husband spent there only to come home in shambles, spirit broken and the world hating him for doing his job. His life was destroyed by people like John Kerry. The time John Kerry spent in Vietman, was only a partial time that others spent time there in that war. We lost over a 10 year generation of men due to that war and he betrayed all our vietnam veterans, still there and those who were coming home and to the names that are now on the Vietnam Memorial Wall. There are hundreds and thousands of men who were destroyed by John Kerry and his protesting group. I find this extremely painful in every way because I saw what it did to my husband and cousins and friends who did return while also buring others. These men were heros and John Kerry was not but acted like he did. This can never be forgiven. We owe them and only now are we standing up for them when we should have stood up for them all along. He destroyed so many lives with just 4 months of service to his country.
John Kerry is not speaking for all the vietnam vets, nor should he ever be. He speaks of coalition forces today as he did then. He says that Bush does not have coalition forces now in
afghanistan and Iraq when all together, there are 82+ nations in Iraq. That is no small feat so how is he going to make it better? He has no plan anymore than he had when he said he was a spokesmen for the Vietnam vets. HOW DARE HE PUT DOWN OUR SOLDIERS WHO DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY? OR THOSE WHO BECAME NUTS WHEN THEY RETURNED? OR PEOPLE LIKE MY LATE HUSBAND??? He put so many of our boys in danger over there and destroyed the morale of those who did make it home. How can he live with himself - doing this while still pulling a Naval Reservist pay??? This man has no real clue and he never will. He did whatever he had to, to get the hell out of Vietnam then blamed the soldiers for any and all atrocities committed in wartime when there was only one choice - it's either them or you and since you do not want to die, it was them. His biggest mistake was not only protesting and talking in front of congress but in betraying his fellow soldiers who were still over there in the field of battle, the POW's and MIA's. He was wrong and his is wrong now.
John Kerry also mentioned the last person killed in the Vietnam War. He was from Woburn, MA and went to school with me. He was a marine. I was in the hospital having my wisdom teeth done and he came to the hospital to visit me and to say goodbye since he was returning to Vietnam. At the Fall of Siagon, he was the very last person, the last soldier, the last marine to be killed in that mess. He was only 19 years old. In books regarding Vietnam, you'll find a picture of him at the end of the books.
And this betrayer is going to run for President of this great country of ours? I THINK NOT!
~C
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I want to thank you again for your kindness in your reply to me about that.
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August 27, 2004
Blogroll
So many people have added me to their blogroll as of late, that I haven't been able to keep up. If you've added me to your blogroll, and you don't see your site listed in mine, please drop me an e-mail at mypetjawa-
at-yahoo-
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I don't see my blog in the blogroll.
No need to hurry though
Posted by: Stix at August 27, 2004 04:50 PM (ZN9Ku)
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Done. Is it just me, or does your site load kind of weird? Maybe it's a temporary blogspot problem.
Posted by: RS at August 27, 2004 05:04 PM (JQjhA)
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I was going to ask you to add me, but I see you already have. And I love the roll-over by the way.
Posted by: Rob at August 27, 2004 10:35 PM (KCW8D)
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It might be a blogspot problem. It ususally loads good for me. It might also depend on your browser. I use Firefox and it works good.
Posted by: Stix at August 27, 2004 11:21 PM (ZN9Ku)
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Joo didn't add me. Vaffanculo!
Posted by: Digger at August 27, 2004 11:27 PM (FYEx6)
Posted by: RS at August 28, 2004 04:35 PM (JQjhA)
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Hey Rust, I'm searching blogrolls to see if my URL has been updated, and I happened to notice that you've got the wrong one for me. Mine is http://rightonred.net. You've got it in there as right-on-red.net. Thanks, maaaaaaan.
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Al Qaeda Downed Flight 587?
Bizarre if untrue.
Holy fu**ing sh*t if true!!! Story below.
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I don't even know what to say about this. Horrifying.
Posted by: Ghost of a flea at August 27, 2004 05:56 PM (RogNs)
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This one has always been shadowy. If I recall, there were people at the time who claimed to have witnessed a missile being fired, possibly from a boat on the Sound. It did always seem a bit of a coincidence though, so an al-Qaeda connection, even after all this time, does not seem that far-fetched.
Posted by: MartiniPundit at August 28, 2004 03:38 PM (fLdsW)
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I need to hear from people about this! I had a friend who was killed on 587; I had a nagging feeling that this was NO ACCIDENT. Given the findings of the 9/11 Commission [ re the intelligence failures] that NTSB was not telling people the whole truth. Anybody with any thoughts?
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Group Claims Russian Airliner Responsibility
It looks like the original source for this story was posted at an Islamic bulletin board. We'll see if it pans out. This group or another, though, Islamists are behind it.
Newsday:
A claim of responsibility for the downing of two Russian planes appeared on a Web site known for militant Muslim comment Friday.....
"We in the Islambouli Brigades announce that our holy warriors managed to hijack two Russian planes and were crowned with success though they faced problems at the beginning," the statement said without elaborating on the problems.
Friday's statement said five mujahedeen (Islamic fighters) were on board each plane and their wills will be published soon.
Hat tip:
Ace of Spades Headquarters
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Al Sadr's Justice, 10 25 Bodies Found
Hooray! We let this guy go. Nice freaking work.
Update:
A more recent report has the number at 25.
Xposed:
Iraqi police discovered on Friday at least 10 bodies in a building housing a maverick religious court run by rebel Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's followers here Friday.
Police said they were victims of the court's summary brand of justice, but al-Sadr's followers said they had died in the three weeks of fighting in Najaf between al-Sadr's militiamen and U.S.-Iraqi forces.
An Associated Press reporter saw about 10 charred and bloated bodies covered in blankets, including one of an elderly woman. It was not immediately clear how they died, but they appeared to have been killed by shrapnel, with large gaping wounds.
The stench of the corpses led police, who were deployed Friday in Najaf's Old City, to the bodies, said Brig. Gen. Amer al-Daami, Najaf's deputy police chief.
We found bodies, burnt and rotten," he said.
Al-Daami said some of the bodies were those of police officers, and others belonged to civilians. Before the fighting began Aug. 5, authorities accused the militants of taking police hostage in the city and of killing and mutilating some of them.
Al-Sadr's office in Najaf had set up the court, which ordered arrests and meted out punishments outside of religious and legal authorities. Local Iraqi officials have in the past demanded it be shut down and all its prisoners freed.
Police said the bodies belonged to the victims of the court. But a court official, who identified himself only as Hashim, said the corpses belonged to militants killed in the recent fighting in the city.
The two-story courthouse is made up of 15 rooms filled with desks, computers and books. The bodies were located in an open air area within the courthouse compound.
Half the skull of one of the dead men was missing and another man appeared to have suffered massive wounds to his stomach. None of the bodies was dismembered, save one, which had been beheaded, though it was unclear how.
During the fighting, the militants had set up their own informal health clinics and morgues. The U.S. military has said it killed hundreds of militants in the fighting, though the militants say their casualty figure was far lower.
The courts have arrested and interrogated hundreds of people on charges including selling alcohol and peddling music deemed immoral. Punishments included flagellation.
Al-Sadr's followers have been accused of using the court to settle scores with opponents or to threaten people.
PS-This is Islamic Law.
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Vote Norm Coleman!!
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Mrs. Norm Coleman (R-MN)
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Gah . . . gah . . . gah . . . gah . . . gah . . . [repeat ad infinitum, with jaw appropriately slackened]
Posted by: ccwbass at August 27, 2004 09:43 AM (qg4dU)
Posted by: Brian B at August 27, 2004 10:20 AM (OnnW3)
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That's why Mondale lost.
Posted by: Gordon at August 27, 2004 12:16 PM (7sq4M)
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And notice she has a martini in her hand, not some liberal modern wannabe cocktail. I bet her husband drinks his single malt neat.
Posted by: Brian B at August 27, 2004 03:37 PM (OnnW3)
Posted by: Stix at August 27, 2004 04:52 PM (ZN9Ku)
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Men! You getting to be a dirty old man, too, Rusty? :-)
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 27, 2004 05:50 PM (D39Vm)
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Something about polka dots . . . makes me want to nuzzle her nozzle
Posted by: Horlix at August 27, 2004 06:26 PM (YvD45)
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What the heck, if voting is a popularity contest, why pretend - or do we all admire her policy?
Posted by: David Weisman at August 27, 2004 08:17 PM (1VPIi)
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Posted by: Dean Esmay at August 28, 2004 02:26 AM (ciwrC)
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Some of us heartily approve of her choice of beverage ...
Posted by: MartiniPundit at August 28, 2004 03:41 PM (fLdsW)
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Dean,
What are you, gay?!?!
Posted by: RS at August 28, 2004 05:01 PM (JQjhA)
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Hell, even the Republican women who aren't sexy are at the very least CLASSY -- look at Nancy Reagan, or either of the Bush wives.
Posted by: Brian B at August 30, 2004 12:42 PM (OnnW3)
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Some of us heartily approve of her choice of beverage ...
I hope you don't think I was
disparaging her choice. While I don't like martinis, I respect them. Hell, I'm told I make a damned good one, especially dirty ones. The point is, it's a
REAL drink, like Scotch or beer.
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In Class and No Class
I'm in class. Deal with it. In the meantime here's some linkage that should keep you occupied. Call it homework....
News Junkies: Russia, News fit for Jews, Bush will win, The skinny on the Skinnies
Science: 2001 A Space Odyssey revisited
Bloggage: Military Crackdown on Bloggers, Blog Buddies (not gay), (good) Advice to new bloggers, and old
Theology: Sabbath Declared, Could it be...Satan?, J-O-Os
Poetry: JFK Sonnets
Food: Man does not live by...
Social Studies: The Sociology of Retards
Just funny: One man race, Gay pride
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You have plenty of class, Rusty - don't be so hard on yourself. ;]
"News fit for Jews"? I'm bemused...
Posted by: Iornbear at August 27, 2004 09:50 AM (tdSL9)
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What, no social studies link for my piece on
dating?
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August 26, 2004
Murdered Hostages Count: 17
One more for the count. May God bless you and bring swift justice to those that murdered you.
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He was an introspective pacifist. He would not want "swift justice," but rather probing, long-term solutions.
I am NOT a pacifist, but I am also not in favor of an all-out conflagration in the Middle East, which is precisely what this mad administration is leading us toward.
I can give you 500 reasons why the Iraq war was a bad idea at the time we went in, and another 500 for why the Bush administration has completely botched the war. The last thing I want is this president leading us on a revenge crusade.
It startles me just how many people seem to be able to cheerlead for Bush's foreign policy, and just how few seem to either understand it or be able to offer an intelligent defense of it.
My personal opinion, based on countless hours of thoughtful research (I am an independent) is that this president is an utter moron. If someone can disprove this, I'm willing to listen to your reasoning. Anybody who can convince me that this president is anything more than an crude, arrogant high-school jock who never grew up, and one day discovered Christ and got overconfident in himself, gets a Guinness Book sized cookie from me.
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Italian Hostage Enzo Baldoni Murdered
For the latest news on hostages in Iraq please go to the
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UPDATE: Italian hostage Salvatore Santoro Murdered by Terrorists in Iraq. News, information, and images here.
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Bastards. Fu**ing bastards. Can't they let one freaking day go by without murdering another hostage??? To make it worse, Enzo Baldoni was there with the Red Cross trying to help Iraq heal. I let my class out early for what? This story via M.H. King:
The hostage takers who grabbed Italian journalist Enzo Baldoni on the road between Baghdad and Najaf in Iraq have killed him, the Italian government confirmed Thursday.
"We can confirm it was him, unfortunately," a spokesman for Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said.
Arabic language television channel Al Jazeera said Baldoni's kidnappers killed him because Italy refused to heed their earlier deadline to withdraw troops from Iraq.
"The group calling itself the Islamic Army in Iraq said they executed the Italian journalist Enzo Baldoni because Italy did not respond to their demand to withdraw troops from Iraq within 48 hours," the Arabic language channel Al Jazeera said.
Al Jazeera showed a video of Baldoni, 56, speaking to the camera in front of the group's banner, but no audio could be heard. The television said it would not air footage showing Baldoni's dead body out of respect for his family.
Berlusconi responded quickly with a statement reiterating his determination to keep Italian forces in the U.S.-led coalition and condemning Baldoni's killing.
"There are no words for an act lacking any humanity and which at a stroke cancels out centuries of civilization and takes us back to the dark ages of barbarity," he said.
Italian newspapers said Baldoni and his driver-interpreter were caught in an ambush between Baghdad and Najaf, scene of a Shi'ite rebellion. His driver was found dead Saturday.
Tuesday, the Islamic Army in Iraq gave Italy 48 hours to withdraw its 2,700 troops from Iraq or Baldoni would be killed.
Italy, which has the third-largest foreign military contingent in the country, refused to bow to the kidnappers' demands.
As well as a reporter for the Milan-based weekly "Diario," Baldoni was volunteering for the Red Cross while in Iraq, his daughter, Gabriella Baldoni, told Italian television on Wednesday.
"He was trying to save human lives in Najaf by helping a Red Cross convoy in a spirit of solidarity which has always underscored his thinking and his actions," she told RAI television.
Four other Italians have been taken hostage in Iraq since militants began employing the technique in April to pressure U.S. allies and businesses to leave the country.
One of them, civilian security guard Fabrizio Quattrocchi, was shot dead. The three others were released unharmed.
The Islamic Army in Iraq claimed responsibility for the death of an Iranian diplomat in Iraq earlier this month and showed the man in a videotape. It also was reported to have killed two Pakistani hostages in July.
Just two days ago Burlesconi told the terrorist
vaffanculo! Italy
reemphasized that stance today. Expect updates.
Others Blogging: M.H. King, Jane, Diggers Realm, Jeff Quinton
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Its so sad. And outragous. Infuriating. And that these other countries have bowed before this bloody monster is incomprehensable.
Posted by: Jane at August 26, 2004 08:18 PM (r1uUf)
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a muerte tutti gli arabi
Posted by: jody at October 19, 2004 10:26 AM (sHx9X)
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Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid. Heinrich Heine (1797 - 1856)
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Posted by: OKRASZEWSKI at December 05, 2004 08:26 AM (TdTQp)
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incroyable ces gens ... le peuple d'irak sont rempli de haine et ne font pas de différence entre ceux qui veullent aier et ceux qui veullent les nuirent. Je sui milirtaire canadien francais et je n'hésitarais pas a aider les gens comme je l ai fait dans le passé (Haiti-bosnie-timore).
Ne les laissont pas a leur sort... trop de haine planne au dessus de leur tête...
Posted by: eric at February 04, 2005 08:05 AM (PIASr)
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we should kick foreigners and americans in their ass , because they should leave iraq, usa and their foreces are nuisance here and are there to cause trouble , usa and their allies are fuking bastards, i think bush should be shot...i have arab decent , yes i come from a country that doesn't have to do with that corrupt America thank God... those who help america are assholes
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Posted by: Dante at June 06, 2005 10:10 AM (SUeFm)
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Posted by: believa at August 09, 2005 09:48 AM (eZoxJ)
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Today I received an e-mail with this terrible news. I met Enzo in 2000. He'd returned from one of his trips to East Timor. We had a lot of fun diving at Perhentian Islands Malaysia.
I will always remember him as a warm and very kind man. My heart goes out to his family and may God be with them.
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POWs: John Kerry's Anti-War Rhetoric Used to Justify Torture
A new documentary is coming out. Needless to say, buy your tickets early. Some of the clips show what are clearly political judgments by Vietnam Veterans--that the anti-war movement had prolonged the war needlessly, that John Kerry was only in Vietnam four months and thereby could not claim war hero status, or that John Kerry's voting record is anti-military. However, the most striking clip was from a POW who claimed his interrogator used John Kerry's testimony as justification for not giving the prisoners the rights accorded to POWs under the Geneva Conventions.
UPDATE: Via Glenn Reynolds I learn that Kerry's 1971 Testimony Before Senate Foreign Relations Committee will be on C-Span. If it is already 8:05 PM EST when you read this, you can click here to view the video over the internet. His own words will condemn him.
Here is a transcript of a clip found at the Stolen Honor website.
James Warner, POW
After we had talked for quite sometime the interrogator showed me a transcript of testimony that my mother had given at something called the winter soldier hearings...which I had no idea what these were. I read her testimony, and it wasn't damning, but then I saw some of the other stuff that had gone on at this winter soldier hearing and I wondered how did somebody get my mother persuaded to come, uh, appear at something like this.
And then shortly thereafter he [his interrogator showed] showed my some statements from John Kerry. He said that John Kerry had helped to organize the winter soldier hearings because he was so motivated because he had been an American officer served in the US Navy...and...then he started reading some of the statements that John Kerry made.
I'm sorry I can't quote them, but essentially he accused all of us in Vietnam of being criminals. That everything we had done was criminal. Therefore, of course, the North Vietnamese had told us from the time they got their hands on us that we were criminals, we're not covered by the Geneva Conventions, so it was ok for them to do whatever they wanted to us.
And they told us that they were going to put us on trial, and some of us would be executed....
The interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. And he starts pounding on the table, "Well see here is this Naval officer, he [John Kerry] admits that you are a criminal and that you deserve punishment."
Well, look they told us this was a camp for punishment. We're in solitary confinement. The last time I had been tortured was, started on the 5th of May and lasted until the 2nd of September, in '69. And after it ended they kept me in this box until November the 10th. I was in the box from June the 1st to November the 10th.
When a guy starts pounding a table and you can spot this in them when they start...the voice starts to rise, their face gets red, that's usually a sign that something bad is about to happen. So it made me very uneasy as this interrogator is pounding on the table, looking at me, saying, "These words [John Kerry's] prove that you deserve punishment." I didn't know what was gonna come next and I was, for the rest of the time we were in that camp, I was very ill at ease.....
Here's a Naval Officer who comes home and leaves active duty and reports seeing events that he clearly did not see. And reports participating in actions that he clearly did not participate in. And he says them in criticism, not just of the government of the United States, but of the men he left behind when he came home. And of us who were being held prisoner in North Vietnam, he was criticizing us. He was saying we had done these things, and he was saying things that he knew to be false. And knew would harm us, that means he abandoned his comrades. He burned up his broth-...his band of brotherÂ’s membership card when he did that.
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I'll be the first to comment. On Wizbang, I posted to an idiot named AnonYMoses in regards to an article by Jay Tea. From my own experience I basically said the same thing that this guy has said in your section here. It was a lot nicer than the new one I ripped into AnonYmoses. But this James Warner is correct. Our boys came back from Vietnam to no heroes welcome. It was because of John Kerry and people like him protesting against a war we were already in that made it so difficult for those who DID return to live in a civilized social society, ostracized by everyone and getting psychological help was certainly taboo. My Words to AnonYMoses should be placed here, too, except that I was spitting angry when I wrote them. But having been in that generation, everyone I knew and even know now, had been a part of that war, and no one has been right ever since. He was a traitor to his own people, his comrades in arms, to those who died, to the names on THE WALL and to the names not on the wall and he put our POW-MIA's in great danger. If he could do it then, imagine what he could do now?
I am very sorry, Mr James Warner, you have every right to be angry and I respect that right.
~Cindy Callahan
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 26, 2004 04:17 PM (D39Vm)
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Rusty,
You should make a top ten list of Kerry goofy pronunciations if you watch the video. It would be fun to hear how Thurston Howell pronounces things besides "Jenjis Caaaan"
Posted by: Senator PhilABuster at August 26, 2004 04:37 PM (UHfuz)
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Honored by the use of my work.
Thanks.
Aaron
Posted by: Aaron's Rantblog at August 26, 2004 04:49 PM (UxMXb)
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Why is it that after repeated attempts at reasoned discource and indepth explanations of my opposition to Kerry, after reading this, all I can say is, Fuck John Kerry and the horse he rode in on?
Posted by: Brian B at August 26, 2004 07:11 PM (OnnW3)
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And the horse he stole his face from
Posted by: Uncle Mikey at August 27, 2004 11:24 AM (YvD45)
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So, following your twisted logic, if Kerry had dodged the draft, you'd be voting for him over the crooked duplicitous thief?
Sick fucks, the lot of you.
Dredging up old shit like this so as to avoid facing the obvious and current "shortcomings" of Bush. How very patriotic.
Posted by: Ernest at August 27, 2004 07:18 PM (3i1Um)
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Ernest,
Senator Kerry's handling of this "old shit" tells us quite a bit about *his* obvious and current shortcomings.
Posted by: Mark at August 28, 2004 04:37 PM (A2V8z)
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Hey, hey, hey! Let's remember, John Ferry is a war hero. HE told us so at the Damn-ocratic Convention. But heÂ’s not an American war hero, heÂ’s a North Vietnamese war hero.
Open your eyes, Ernest. The issue here is that Kerry decided on his own to run as a war hero. "Reporting for duty," were HIS words. And how did he earn this self proclaimed war hero status? Well, modest old John merely gave aid and comfort to the enemy. No big deal, right, Ernest? Keep in mind, he was not tortured (as his brothers in arms were on a daily basis) to say what he said back then, he did it willingly. And as for his claim that his conscious drove him to speak out, then where was his conscious when he defamed brave men and women by lying about them and telling the world they were committing war crimes and atrocities? And as the intelligent guy he claims to be, he must have known his words were giving aid and comfort to Hanoi and that they would be used against our POWs. For him to suggest otherwise is not only insulting to anyone with half a brain, but points to his manipulative "anything-I-can-do-to-advance-my-career" attitude.
Those who support Kerry and his traitorous behavior are either too fixated on regaining power at any cost or have absolutely no idea what "Duty, Honor, Country" mean - they think they are just words. And for them, no words would ever change their hardened hearts or dulled brains.
Posted by: Bill at September 11, 2004 05:17 AM (KFlD2)
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Yes, I'm al Qaeda. So what?
Yemeni Poet Says He Is al-Qaida Member. I am told the confession was written in iambic pentameter.
Update: a poem by Dr. Chaos, with revisions by Keith:
There once was a man from Yemen
Whose breath always smelled of semen
a sign on the door
said, "Come back after 4:00...
IÂ’m out giving head to bin Laden."
Senator Phil goes for broke with an haiku:
Although our man love
Is condemned by the Koran
Osama mounts me.
Apparently
the Irish just can't get enough of this poetry stuff:
The al Qaeda poet was sodden
He rhymed to inspire the downtrodden
But a sign on his door
Said come come here no more
ItÂ’s my duty to die for bin Laden
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Cut me some slack on the first rhyme:
There once was a man from Yemen
Whose breath always smelled of semen
I went to his door
A sign said “I’m not in,
I’m out giving head to bin Laden.”
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at August 26, 2004 01:15 PM (rNdj+)
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Bah..everyone knows the mark of a true poet is in the ability to create haikus:
Forbidden Love
By Some goofy al-qaeda poet
Although our man love
Is condemned by the Koran
Osama mounts me.
Posted by: Senator PhilABuster at August 26, 2004 02:45 PM (UHfuz)
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Ugh! That "limerick" didn't even rhyme properly!
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 26, 2004 02:55 PM (SuJa4)
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limericks really do need the cadence, hope this helps:
"a sign on the door
said, "Come back after 4:00..."
etc.
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at August 26, 2004 03:07 PM (04TFv)
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Are you guys the limerick police or what? Geez ...
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at August 26, 2004 03:15 PM (rNdj+)
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Idiocy on Display in Media
Headline:
Attack Ads May Be Hurting Kerry, LA Times Poll Shows
Problem: Has anyone actually seen one of these ads on TV? The people in this poll who claimed to have seen the ad are either lying or are recalling news clips of the ad---usually with the most damning parts being left out. Unless of course the sample was skewed towards the internet savvy--the only place I've ever seen the ad. Unlike Ace, I just don't think these ads have been viewed widely enough to have impacted the polls. People know of the ad, but have not seen it.
Freaking brilliant analysis.
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Well, one would assume that any poll done would consider only a sample of those who live in areas where the ad is being run, and among those who say they've seen the ads. Given that it's an
LA Times story, you're probably right.
But at the same time, it doesn't matter; great political ads create their own buzz, and people see them on the internet and on talk shows. Not to mention that some people will not have seen the ads but will have heard their message. So it's entirely appropriate to report on those who claim the ad has altered their position.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at August 26, 2004 11:25 AM (TBw/v)
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I have never seen an ad on television at all; I don't think they had enough time to get any on the air. Kerry/Edwards' lawyers filed suits and injunctions as well as injunctions against all major television stations before they even got the ads and thus could not play the ads. The only place to find an ad is on their website and there is only ONE there. Where the other ones are, I have no idea? If these things are hurting Kerry, who sees them to know that? So far, I haven't seen any drop in Kerry's numbers but all people hear about is how the vets are making all this noise putting Kerry down and him blaming Bush, who has nothing to do with those ads at all. It's very disappointing when you have free speech but can't speak.
~C
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 26, 2004 11:55 AM (D39Vm)
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Chaos-I've seen the ads being discussed on the news networks, but never seen them run in their entirety. Usually they just talk about the ads without showing anything. When I have seen the ads the only visual was maybe 5 seconds of the ad and then a voiceover.
FBA-they filed a motion for an injunction which is not the same as an injunction from a judge.
Posted by: RS at August 26, 2004 12:01 PM (winNN)
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Where are the real men?? Instead of running to court and government agencies, Kerry should try directly addressing the charges. Is that so hard? Gee whiz. I wish this were the 1940s. Racial segregation would be a problem, but I think I could deal with the rest!
Posted by: La Shawn at August 26, 2004 01:39 PM (Qa+f/)
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Freaking brilliant analysis and limpid writing, too. Why would they stick the candidates' ages in the middle of a paragraph full of poll-percentage numbers? I don't care how old Ralph Nader, 70, is.
Posted by: See-Dubya at August 26, 2004 02:39 PM (oQdhV)
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The point is, Bush's numbers are up, and Kerry's are down. People don't have to see an ad to hear that it casts doubts on Kerry's claims about his service--or that it documents his betrayals once he came back.
I had heard that the ads actually aired in a few swing states, but I might have that wrong.
The other thing the average semi-apathetic swing voter has probably heard is that Kerry's only reaction was to rail against the ads and try to get them squashed, rather than to actually answer the charges.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 26, 2004 03:00 PM (SuJa4)
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Iregardless of where the injunction came from Rusty, no station is playing the ads.
~Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 26, 2004 04:08 PM (D39Vm)
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Cindy-That's just it, there is no injunction. They've aked a judge to block the ads, but the judge has not acted yet. Perhaps the mere threat of the pending case is enough, but I doubt it. The fact that very few ads have been run is probably a) because the Swifties are not very well funde, $400k isn't that much in the world of TV advertisements b) stations refuse to run them because they don't want the controversy to follow them.
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Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 26, 2004 05:01 PM (D39Vm)
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Adam Sandler, Republican?
Oxymoron:
Popular Jewish Actor in Hollywood is
Republican.
(via
Llama Butchers)
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Posted by: James at August 26, 2004 10:58 AM (rP4OC)
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Remember: Ben Stein is a Republican.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 26, 2004 03:01 PM (SuJa4)
Posted by: RS at August 26, 2004 03:05 PM (JQjhA)
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You are both fucking morons. This is a rumour to begin with so shut up. By the way Ben Stein is a republican because they pay him to be, and he is a sell out.
Posted by: GM at September 09, 2004 04:30 AM (gr369)
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Ben stein wrote speaches for nixon, hes been a republican for a loooong time. moron.
Posted by: bill at September 15, 2004 12:31 PM (pOOb+)
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How the hell is "Jewish Republican" an oxymoron? Considering that the GOP supports Israel...
Posted by: AZ at October 02, 2004 02:00 AM (rE10L)
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American Jewish Republican is an oxymoron, and for the person who said that the GOP supports Israel, so does the DNC... Both major parties are actually very supportive of Israel.
That being said, thank god we have Adam!!!
MaineGOP
Posted by: Jon at October 03, 2004 06:21 AM (HNqmJ)
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I can proudly say I'm an American Jewish Republican.
Posted by: Murff at May 23, 2005 10:52 PM (tsrC9)
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all republicans are fucking morons who don't care about anything but themselves and their money.
Posted by: KerryFan at June 25, 2005 05:24 PM (fYQx+)
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I am proud to be an American, Israel supporting,m Jewish Democrat and I find the notion that a Jew would join the Republican party to be a betrayal of our history and of the loyalty that we owe to the Democratic party for supporting us before any of us had money to be self-interested in!
Posted by: LC at July 30, 2005 04:14 PM (M7kiy)
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hmm..this is quite interesting
Posted by: generic drugs at September 26, 2005 03:06 AM (zmG3U)
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huh...
well... traditionally arent jewish tight asses who are just greedy? oh no, that would be a non-pc stereotype.
...just like the stereo type about reps being all about themselves and money. i know of a lot of greddy leftists in office.
if it all comes down to money, and it always does, smart people that want to keep the money THEY EARNED are republican. dems want to help everyone cuz they hate themselves and this makes them feel better.
Posted by: johnnymac at October 20, 2005 03:42 AM (bvYZV)
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