August 02, 2004
Live Blogging From Ground Zero
Holy Schneike! My Blogfather, the
Commissar, is blogging live from the Citigroup Center---which was listed as a specific target in the latest terrorist alerts. This guy has one giant set of cajones!
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Turkish Hostage Murdered
UPDATE 9/13: Another Turkish hostage, Durmus Kumdereli, murdered today. The post, pics, and video
can be found here.
Update: I have the video linked. Scroll down.
Via Jeff Quinton I learn the sad news that my running count of murdered hostages since 9/11 is up by one. I'll update the list as soon as I learn his name. Let us never forget the victims of the Religion of Peas.
I've checked the website where Zarquawi's group usually posts their videos, but no pics are there. I'm assuming that they have opened up a new sub-domain extension for the video. I'll post it when I find it.
Update: I just saw the video. It's posted at Ogrish (no link on purpose--it's a snuff site). Can somebody tell me why we haven't carpet bombed Falujah again?
Update 2: Right on Red asks why Murat Yuce was shot rather than beheaded and wonders if it is because he was a Muslim. Possibly. Many fatwas have been cited in the mainstream press that condemn the beheadings. What is usually not reported is that if you read the fatwas carefully, the condemnation is often not about killing infidels per se, but about defiling the bodies.
Since this is all PR for the jihadis, they have a vested interest in not pissing off their audience.
Update 3: I found the video on a site that looks like they deserve some traffic. You can see it by clicking here or going to the Liberty Unites article (although the page says you must register to view video, if you click on the link under the pic and to the right it will take you directly there).
Update 4: I have also posted a shortened version of the video here.
No, I do not encourage wathcing this kind of thing for titilations sake. Why watch it? See this post.
Update 4: Sober reminder from Kevin Aylward that "They're still another Turkish hostage being held by the group."
Lest we forget, his name was Murat Yuce. His name was Murat Yuce.
I've been trying to keep the hostages executed count accurate, but may be off. E-mail me if I'm missing anyone. The list only includes hostages murdered, not total victims of terrorism.
1) Murat Yuce (Aug. 1)
2)Raja Azad (July 2
3) Sajad Naeem (July 2
4) Georgi Lazov (July 13) (rant)
5) Ivaylo Kepov (presumed dead) (probably July 14)
6) Keith M. Maupin (June 2
7) Kim Sun-il (June 22)
Paul Johnson (June 1
9) Hussein Ali Alyan (June 12)
10) Nick Berg (May 12)
11) Fabrizio Quattrocchi (April 16)
12) Martin Burnham (June 7, 2002)
13) Daniel Pearl (Feb. 2, 2002)
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Its a horrible and important list. i grieve for the innocent Iraqi civilians killed in the al-Shura massacre, at the recent church bombing, and throughout this onslaught.
Posted by: jane at August 02, 2004 04:18 PM (PcgQk)
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You may have added Kim Sun Il's name to the list based on the CNN report that he was beheaded but if you recall, his beheading was reported in error and he was actually released because the Phillipines pulled their troops out 3 (?) weeks early.
Correct??
Still, regardless, the list is tragic and the display of means by these barbaric individuals strengthens resolve.
My heart goes out to the families of these brave men.
Posted by: Debra at August 02, 2004 06:04 PM (7E/5W)
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Rusty, Did you see the films they made of Paul Johnson and Danny Pearl?? Al Quaida (who knows how to really spell this?) Only reason pictures were shown was because they were made into propaganda films. There is another with just a picture of one of the HIDDEN (I mean coward who covers his face) holding up a head - probably one of the names you have listed which we'll see as a propaganda film soon. Same with Matt if he is indeed dead. Normal beheading is hitting the back of the neck down - clean quick slice. These guys are BARBARIC, using a knife to cut the throat, pushing body down on floor holding head down till blood stops then later video comes on and they saw the head off and it's disgusting and barbaric and shocking as all hell and I believe the world should see this - all the US should see this and get DAMN ANGRY at these bastards. Someone said that we should blow up all the damn muslims in the middle east, wipe them off the face of this earth and be done with it. I have no idea why we are not bombing Fallujah, although we've done it several times. Allawi and the IGC are now in control; we are their backup. To the person who is mixing up Kim Sun Il to the filipino, Kim Sun Il was beheaded and screamed as Nick Berg did hysterically. The Filipino had a different name Debra - Cruz, I believe it was. There are more killings and beheadings than you have listed but it is impossible to keep track of all of them. The Filipino's left and that made things worse for everybody, now the Turks and their trucks are headed out of Iraq because of this shooting today. If he was held by Al-Zaqawi, then he would have beheaded him, I have no idea why he was shot in the head like that. I'd like to know how they get them to be so still and quiet but then the videos I saw on this Turk had no sound. Sound must be there to get the full effect. And that will indeed bust your ass and you'll get even more angry at people like Kerry whom I hate with a passion along with Kennedy. (I'm from MASS) Orgish I know, it passes as a porn site (I don't know what kind of material they have on there, never looked, but it is definitely up to date on anything that happens over there. I also have the video and pictures of the original 11 kidnapped and ambushed Americans with Jessica as we entered Iraq. I'd still be afraid of Saddam as the Iraqi people are because he's still alive - what a barbarian and he had very cruel, vicious, disgusting ways to torture and kill his own people; maybe that is why the shooting is also shocking - they understand that for that's how he took over the country himself. His being a muslim probably had something to do with that as well.
We are a privileged people, a civilized people and all arguments about war and terrorism would end if they saw the barbaric nature of these people as well as the Israeli and Palestinians. Can you imagine getting used to picking up body pieces and parts as your normal day living?? Egads, the world sees it, but we don't and I feel we all should see it because that is the only way the people of the United States of America are really going to know what it is like over there and put an end to it. And how can taxes not be raised when we have to protect our country from these vicious people?? Oh I could go on and on.. but as it is, I'm trying to figure out how to get my own blog going where everything is there for every one to see. God Bless, keep up the good work and as Robbie Knieval said at Louden, NH - "Thank You President Bush for protecting our freedom!" Trust me, we are a very lucky country and a free people and THEY want to change that and the life we have as we know it now. We cannot let that happen!!
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 02, 2004 08:47 PM (t0rjm)
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Sorry, Kim Sun Il was South Korean. What pisses me off about the 51 Philipines pulling out is that their president has been in our country many times asking for our help against their terrorists who have pretty much taken over their lives and their country. Al Quada related of course. But people forget to mention there are over 4,000 Philipines working in Iraq because there is no work in their country. And DeLaCruz was a truck driver, not a soldier but what diff does it make they only had 51 soldiers in Iraq? It's the PRINCIPLE.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 02, 2004 09:36 PM (t0rjm)
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As tragic and important as all of these victims are, the two significant ones to remember are Daniel Pearl and Martin Burnham -- both in 2002. Anyone stupid enough to think that our war in Iraq is to blame needs to remember that these two were killed long before the beginning of that war. Then again, so were all the victims on 9/11. These aren't retalioation for Iraq, these are part of an older and much nastier conflict.
Posted by: Brian B at August 02, 2004 11:40 PM (OnnW3)
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Brian--As always, excellent point!
Broken Angel--A+ rant. Yes, I've seen all the videos and they piss me off so much that each time I see them I just about pop a nut!!
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 03, 2004 02:50 PM (JQjhA)
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I agree with you too Brian. These people are merciless. Rusty wouldn't want you to pop a nut, that could be very painful but I know what you mean; I just have no way to VENT!
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 03, 2004 07:57 PM (t0rjm)
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I didn't know if I should contact you directly. Do you remember the kidnapped missionaries who's kids came up with $2M to secure their release and when they got there for the meet, their money was taken and they were killed and I don't know what happened to the missionary parents. Terrorism is a horrendous thing and all these people should be wiped off the face of this earth so we all can breathe in peace. I have no idea what makes these people so godless and unconscionable and their acts so heartless but we and the rest of civilized society should not have to carry their burdens on our shoulders. There are govts that are trying to end this and we are one of them but we can't stop our lives for them and we can't let them change ours. They must meet their maker before we do.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at August 03, 2004 08:05 PM (t0rjm)
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This execution video is a SCAM!!!!!!!! If a person was shot at such close range from a high-powered pistol, that was "supposed" to be in this, I can asure u !! THERE WOULD BE A LOAD MORE BLOOD AND BRAINS THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VIETNAM VET ... PLEASE CHILL PEOPLE????????????? IT AINT WORTH THE HASSLE!!!!!
Posted by: Scott Mcc. at August 05, 2004 12:56 AM (3WMpL)
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I TOLD U, FIRSTBROKENANGEL!!!!ITS BULLSHIT!!!! WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN AND U WILL SEE THAT !!!!! IF U SHOOT SOMEONE WITH A HIGH-POWERED PISTOL LIKE THAT , AT THAT KIND OF RANGE , ITS GONNA BE MESSY!!!!!!!!! A LOT MORE MESSY THAN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: SCOTTMCC at August 05, 2004 01:07 AM (3WMpL)
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Yup, that and the moon landing. I knew it!
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Thanks for the website. I wish you could find the names of the Iraqi people murdered by terrorists, like the Christians killed in the church bombings, and the names of the people murdered in Bali, in 9/11, in Madrid, and by terrorists in the philippines and elsewhere. It's a long list and the very length of the list is what gives it its power. good luck
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Kerry's Secret Plan
My patented John Kerry's
Secret Plan to End the War in Iraq® is getting some serious attention (and I'll forgive the copyright violations). People at the
WaPo must be reading this blog.
Captain Ed and
Glenn Reynolds both notice the similiarites, too.
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War on Terror: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
My heroes, the creators of South Park, are at it again, but this time it's the War on Terror. You can check out the trailor for
Team America:World Police here.
Drudge reports that the White House is not happy:
I really do not think terrorism is funny, and I would suggest PARAMOUNT give respect to those fighting and sacrificing to keep America safe," a senior Bush adviser told the DRUDGE REPORT this weekend...
"This is just unconscionable. Not funny. And I believe it makes fun of everyone in law enforcement... and in the armed services who work tirelessly to keep us safe from harm."
I think the White House has it all wrong. They just don't get it. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are hardcore hawkish libertarians, just like me. If anything, this film will serve as an antitode to F/911.
Also, if you can't laugh at the War on Terror, what can you laugh at? The reason I started this blog was because of a SP episode called "Osama bin Laden has farty pants," which is Stone and Parker's tribute to WWII propaganda cartoons. Comedy can be an essential tool in the War on Terror inasmuch as it makes fun of our enemies.
Listen to this clip of Osama wooing the love of his life--a camel! Does that sound like anti-war Bush bashing? They may bash Bush, on occasion, but not over the war.
The trailor only lists one Republican who, it claims, will be mad over the film: George W. Bush.
But let's look at all the D's and lefties the film will piss off (again, according to the trailor and in order):
Alec Baldwin
Sean Penn
Tim Robbins
George Clooney (who I suspect is in on the joke)
Liv Tyler
Susan Sarandon
Martin Sheen
Janeane Garofalo
Michael Moore
John Kerry
Kim Jong Il
The film appears to be a play on the new Thunderbirds movie, set for release this week---only Trey and Matt stick with the original puppet format.
From the trailor, the following things can be seen which will definitely cheer up the Bush people. First, there is a quick blurb of a puppet (Kerry or Edwards?) getting what appears to be a botox injection. Second, there is a Michael Moore puppet. What is in his hand? A hot dog. Third, several shots are of places/people in France getting blown up.
From an article about some clips that were shown at this years Comic-Con we also learn that, " the opening of the film in which France is obliterated by Team America" got a loud applause.
Now, does that sound like an anti-war movie to you?
Drudge, to his credit, saves this for last:
Parker and Stone save most of the mocking for left-wing pundits and Michael Moore.
Just remember the South Park formula: Tragedy + Time = Comedy
As for me, I'm going to buy my ticket early and make sure the theater has stadium seating and THX sound!
This site has a cool poem marking the occasion!
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The Bush people need to keep their mouths shut on this one. If anything, Stone and Parker's main ambition seems to be telling Hollywood liberals to take their sanctimonious rhetoric and go fuck themselves.
Correction: in the clip, Michael Moore has hot dogs in both hands.
Posted by: Professor Chaos at August 02, 2004 02:48 AM (Xttpo)
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Does Jeanne Giraffalo kill Kenny?
Posted by: jane at August 02, 2004 02:50 AM (PcgQk)
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"Tragedy + Time = Comedy" a South Park formula? Tsk tsk. Does "If it bends, its funny" ring any bells?
Thanks for the research. Finally, a political movie this season worth throwing eight bucks at!
Posted by: Gordon at August 02, 2004 03:39 AM (FmtOZ)
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Michael Moore, you must respect mah authoritah!
Posted by: Senator PhilABuster at August 02, 2004 04:12 AM (yucew)
Posted by: Jane at August 02, 2004 05:29 AM (PcgQk)
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I find it hard to believe that no one in the administration knows about South Park's political persuasion. No, I doubt the White House is upset about the movie at all - they're probably just helping to publicize it with a little controversy.
Posted by: Johnny Walker Red at August 02, 2004 06:04 AM (WruD6)
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I love Parker and Stone, so I'd see anything they made. And yes, terrorism is not funny, but we need something to drag us out of this self-denigrating Fahrenheit 9-11 crap. Maybe what we need is a comedy where the Americans are -- shocker! -- the heroes.
But I think it's admirable that the White House is not thrilled. They *should* be saying that terrorism isn't funny and they *should* take the moral high ground. That's a pleasant contrast to the Democrat big-wigs who went to the opening night of Fahrencrap 9-11 and are praising Moore or laughed their asses off at Whoopi's dirty jokes. I hope Bush is snickering in private, but I for one am proud that he's sticking to his guns and reminding us that the world threat is no laughing matter.
But I can't wait to see the freaking movie!!!
Posted by: Sarah at August 02, 2004 09:29 AM (+Pzmm)
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Jane, Sen, Gordo-bwaaahaaaahaaa!
Johnny-I'm going to vote for Bush, so don't misconstrue this, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if whoever spoke 'off the record' to Drudge really was upset. A LOT of cultural conservatives I know think that South Park is the worst think ever.
Sarah-That's just the thing, I think the administration isn't saying 'terrorism is funny', just that 'terrorists are funny.' Better yet, to paraphrase Bugs Bunny 'Terrorists iz zee craziest people!'.
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Oh yeah, I know what you mean. But hey, we can be sure of one person in the administration who isn't bothered by off-color language!
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Iraqi commandos free Lebanese hostage
Wow, I didn't even know there was such a thing as an
Iraqi Commando! Via
SMH:
"Iraqi commando forces carried out a military operation on the kidnappers of Vlad Damaa and released him half an hour ago," the source said in Beirut, declining to give any more details.
Damaa was seized at gunpoint on Friday from a construction concern he runs with a brother that sells prefabricated buildings to US forces in Iraq, his family said.
On a less optimistic note, a second Lebaneese truck driver is still missing.
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Prague Bombed...
...but don't worry (
al Reuters) officials declared:
This was not a terrorist attack, it was not a bomb
Of course it wasn't a terrorist attack. How silly. Terrorists would never think of using something other than a bomb. Further:
The pedestrian district was teeming with thousands of tourists enjoying a sunny afternoon in the area
And
Xinhuanet reports:
The British Foreign Office confirmed that three of the Britons were men and two women
Because we all know that terrorists don't target civillians, or tourists, or especially British tourists.
Oh, and also file this under 'definitely not terrorism' because, according to Reuters:
...the blast occurred near a casino and may have been a robbery attempt as an armored security vehicle was parked by the Israeli-owned Royal Casino.
Yup, couldn't have been terrorism. Nothing to see here, move along.
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DNC Officially Didn't Happen!
Remember
my thoughts on Kerry's speech and my
nihilism toward's the whole DNC?
There is nothing to make fun of. Nothing worthwhile is being said. It's worse than that, there is nothing un-worthwhile being said either. The convention is not happening to me. It is not there and no one is writing about it. I feel nothing.
Well, apparently I was right. Kevin & Paul at Wizbang have two posts (
No Bump For Kerry/Edwards &
DNC Bump = 4pts -- For Bush!) about two seperate polls, both of which show that the nominating convention had absolutely no effect for John F. Ferry.
Combine that with the Newsweek Poll, which will be released tomorrow, showing J Freakin K with a measly four-point bump and I think the obvious conclusion is that the American people just didn't give a rat's ass. The speech didn't matter, Michael Moore didn't matter, Ben Damon or Matt Affleck or whatever gettin it on with JK's daughter didn't matter....even that hottie Sarah Bender didn't matter.
Like I've been saying to everybody: The convention didn't happen.
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If it didn't happen then why was I so pissed off all week?
Posted by: Professor Chaos at August 02, 2004 01:00 AM (1Atba)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 02, 2004 01:04 AM (JQjhA)
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The convention didn't happen because John Kerry's Senate career didn't happen (or it did and no body noticed) and John Kerry's platform didn't happen (or it did and it was meaningless.)
Posted by: jane at August 02, 2004 02:53 AM (PcgQk)
Posted by: Simon at August 02, 2004 09:09 AM (GWTmv)
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I shall await the momentous Republican convention when I shall no doubt be truly inspired by visionary proclamations by the likes of Dubya, Dick, and Jenna.
This election is about sanity in foreign policy, a modicum of fairness in the economy, and at least lukewarm intelligence on the Supreme Court.
We have our own fundamentalists here in America, and they are being led by Southern Republicans. It is time for them to go.
Can I get a hey, hey and a ho, ho?
Posted by: bullbythehorn at August 03, 2004 12:30 AM (MDQeV)
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Good,
Your wish shall be soon granted.
And if Jenna doesn't 'inspire you', you are a homosexual.
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Finally, something worth reading in the Arabian News
I can't believe the official organ (emphasis on 'organ') of the House of Saud publishes blog-friend
Jane's op-ed. Go read
it and then read her
blog. What is especially interesting are these two paragraphs that I can't believe got past the censors. Perhaps there is some hope in the Kingdom, after all:
Republicans see the greatest challenge elsewhere. Vice President Cheney articulates their vision that “the enemy America faces today is every bit as intent on defeating us as were the Axis powers were in World War II or as the Soviet Union in the Cold War.” This view holds that the goal of the jihad is not to change US foreign policy but to destroy the US itself in a quest to establish a global caliphate. The 3/11 massacre in Spain they see as part of a larger effort to reclaim Al-Andalus. Republicans believe Al-Qaeda terrorists understand better than Democrats the historic stakes in Iraq and the major blow that would be dealt to their ideology by a self-governing Iraq.
Republicans, contrary to the prevailing international view, are not comprised of a cabal of neocons, Evangelicals, Zionists, oil barons and warmongers. Rather a portion of BushÂ’s base consists of ex-Democrat voters, prior liberals and other middle Americans disgusted with the Democrats reaction to the challenges America faces from radical Islamists.
Way to go Jane!
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August 01, 2004
Orange Alert in NYC
Commissar's response to terrorists?
F**k You!
more...
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To be clear, my use of the F word was directed at terrorists, not Spoons.
Posted by: The Commissar at August 01, 2004 11:59 PM (lOg/u)
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Rusty, why do I suspect you didn't read all of the links?
This and
this, in particular.
I have no objection to Der Commissar's going about his life. I object to his mockery of Annie Jacobsen, or anyone else acting to be vigilant about potential threats.
Posted by: Spoons at August 02, 2004 12:00 AM (X4FCJ)
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I understand your difference of opinion on the Terro-skies stories that you linked. That's cool, and you know that I would rather err on the side of caution and offend some people than err on the side of civility and have people die.
But in my mind, 9/10 thinking is DANGEROUS and is worse than saying eff-you. So, I just object to giving the Commissar the 9/10 award for THAT particular post.
It seems to me that the Commissar has learned from the Israelis. That is, in the face of incredible fears and dangers--celebrate life. Live.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 02, 2004 12:08 AM (JQjhA)
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Still think you're misconstruing the post, Rusty. It's all well and good to go about living your life. But part of living your life should be keeping vigilant about threats. Mocking people who do that shouldn't be.
It's not just that the Commissar and I disagree about the Jacobsen story -- although I think that the evidence strongly supports a conclusion that the Jacobsens acted reasonably. Even if the Jacobsens had overreacted, though, the attacks on them were completely uncalled for, and
make us less safe.
Posted by: Spoons at August 02, 2004 12:15 AM (X4FCJ)
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I haven't read all the posts, but I have to agree with and amend Spoons' last comment: what he seems to be saying is that "living your life" has a different definition post-9/11, and I don't think The Commissar would disagree.
Posted by: Professor Chaos at August 02, 2004 12:27 AM (1Atba)
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I think its about keeping a sense of perspective, a sense of humor and a sense of COMRADEry, so I have to weigh in with the Commissar and Rusty here, but honestly, I would weigh in with them in most any circumstances, that's just the way we do it in Brooklyn.
(Did I win run-on-sentence-of-the-week?)
Posted by: Jane at August 02, 2004 03:06 AM (PcgQk)
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I find that the perfect compromise is to be a paranoid in denial. A cocktail of equal parts dexetrine, valium and Stolichnya helps immensely.
(Jane, if not the winner, you've made Letterman's Top 10 List, although we love you anyway because you write with style, grace and power, while not usually running overlong clauses into the same tortured sentence, unlike some of us who can't help ourselves.)
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Kevin. Ouch. Very nice.
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