October 31, 2005
Col Todd Wood Killed in Iraq by Bombers.
The highest ranking member of our fine military killed in Iraq died today. He was killed by a cowardly bomber. Col. Wood died in the line of duty leading his men.
CNN: Wood, based at Forward Operating Base Falcon in the northern province of Babil, had responded to a roadside bomb Thursday and was giving orders to his men as they secured the area when a secondary explosion blew him backwards into a canal, killing him instantly, the military said.
Wood, 44, was based at Fort Stewart, Georgia. He is survived by his wife and daughter.
Thanks for your service and sacrifice Mr. Wood and Family our prayers are with you and with all our men fighting so hard this week.
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To know just how heroic these guys are read a book called Imperial Grunts by Robert Kaplan. It explains everything about "forward operating bases", the special forces, our non-commissioned officer corps, the Pentagon's "map" of the world, you name it. Fascinating read and it will open your eyes up to how our military works like nothing else I've ever read. This Col. Wood was a true professional, a hero, and a great American.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 31, 2005 05:13 PM (8e/V4)
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I don't need a book, just my memories. The death of any soldier is a loss, but this is more so, because good commanders take years to make. But you know what? That's one thing we're good at. We could lose ten battalion commanders for every terrorist "mastermind" we kill, and we'd still be winning, because in our military are some of the best and brightest our nation produces, and we produce them by the hundreds and thousands, whereas a 'slamotard with an IQ over 100 is about as common as frog-fur coats.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 05:19 PM (0yYS2)
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In the field with his men - a true soldier - he will not be forgotten - he will be missed - he can rest with the knowledge that countless others stand ready to carry on in his place.
Posted by: hondo at October 31, 2005 07:19 PM (ymtSt)
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In today's Army, there is little room for those who don't lead from the front. When you consider that today's is a volunteer, and that most, if not all, could have chosen just as easily to remain a civilian, but didn't, it really says something. Those who birthed the wretched Boomers have been called the Greatest Generation because they won WW2, but they were mostly drafted and had little choice. Not to diminish their sacrifices, but those were different times.
Every soldier, sailer, airman, and Marine in theaters of deployment today, especially on the sharp end, are there because
they are truly the greatest generation, because they are there of their own free will, risking their all for the sake of others, with no hope of a great reward, or even the gratitude of those they help or many of their countrymen. They offer their lives and futures so that freedom will not die. Like Patton said, we should not mourn the deaths of these men, we should be grateful that such men lived.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 08:36 PM (0yYS2)
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Check the name on this one. CNN issued an incorrect report, and killed a soldier who is still alive. The officer who died was Col. William Wood, not Todd Wood.
Posted by: JSullen at October 31, 2005 09:37 PM (AJnuk)
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Jesus. Not only can't they get the facts right, they can't even get names right.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 11:38 PM (0yYS2)
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/103105N.shtml
Posted by: Route Irish at November 01, 2005 01:40 AM (Eh9tH)
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Well CNN correctly reported what the DoD gave out to them. The DoD reported his name as Col. William W Wood. They also reported his death as occurring last Thursday, Oct 27th.http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051031-5023.html 30 -40 years ago one sure way of telling whether someone was a FNG, a REMF, or was short was by how much respect he gave his enemy. We are engaged with a dedicated,resourcefull, and adaptable enemy. I do not think that we should denigrate our OWN effort by trivializing our opponent. This is a tough fight.
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October 30, 2005
A Long Time Ago, In A France Far, Far, Away
France wasn't always filled with cheese eating surrender monkeys.
In October of 732, Charles Martel ("The Hammer") and his Frankish horde stopped cold the onrushing cavalry of Allah's finest, halting Islam's desire to break out from Spain and subjugate the rest of Europe.
Creasy argues also that the Martel victory "preserved the relics of ancient and the germs of modern civilizations ." That is, in a Moslem Dominion, the ferment of the Middle Ages, which sparked the Enlightenment with all of its scientific, economic, and political fruits, would never have occurred. Look at the modern Islamic world: backward, unfree, poor--in sad fact, scarcely modern at all. This could be the state of all humankind if not for a Europe where, as Strauss notes, "church and state were [often] at loggerheads," helping form a culture that was, "compared to Islam, decentralized, secularized, individualistic, profit-driven."
Half-educated Christophobes who think the faith contributed nothing but superstition and inventive torture to the human story should ponder Strauss' words. So should modern zealots who would happily marry church and state.
Without the victory at Tours, there would be no suds-swinging Oktoberfest, no Halloween (because no All Hallows Eve), indeed little fun now or at any other time of the year under a Shari'a, or religious law, not noted for winking at petty vices.
Victor Davis Hanson notes the Battle of Tours, or Poitiers, as he refers to it, as one of the landmark battles in Western civilization in his book "Carnage and Culture."
Pray for Europe. But save a few prayers, too, for a band of bearded, coarse, but faithful men who stood shoulder-to-shoulder in a cold dawn and faced proven death galloping full-speed toward them--only to unhorse that grim rider and break his bones to bits.
Which is to say that if in the next life you can't find the Pearly Gates, just follow the sound of the loud German drinking songs. You'll get to the right place.
So when you're out running around having a fun Halloween, stop for a moment, look up, and thank a Frank.
Stein hoist to Clarity and Resolve.
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1 for the French - well even the Whitesox finally won a series and it took them only 90 years.
Posted by: hondo at October 31, 2005 01:09 AM (ymtSt)
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Unfortunately we didn't know when to stop enlightening ourselves and we ended up with lobby groups and political correctness. Now the enemy hordes can go wherever they please and cause chaos under the protection of "free speech and equality".
Posted by: Graeme at October 31, 2005 04:36 AM (MmTiX)
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But, Charles Martel was Germanic...starting a long tradition of foreign armies saving France.
Posted by: David Paulus at October 31, 2005 04:47 AM (iBRdq)
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There are some French who have managed to retain their guts.
The Dissident Frogman is decidedly pro-American and has no problem in exposing Euroweenies. Shame he hasn't posted since January. We should all email him and prod him into posting more. Just push the yellow button in the upper left corner.
Posted by: Oyster at October 31, 2005 06:00 AM (YudAC)
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Charles Martel is truly one of the greatest men in the history of Western Civilization. And when the French were great, they truly were the bravest, and yes, possibly the most foolish of the European knights. The charge of the French knights at Nicropolis, and the subsequent capture and beheading of 3000 of them by the Turks is certainly one of the most gruesome and tragic incidents in the European struggle against the jihad.
Some of my ancestors are from the Rheims area of France and my cousin has made it her second job to discover and point out what was the greatness of France. And she still believes in France, I do not.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 31, 2005 08:43 AM (rUyw4)
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But the frogistanis are now far more concerned with the grave threat that we evil Americans pose to them than with the over-hyped threat of islam. I say we let the ragheads take France and exterminate the frogs, then we invade and exterminate the ragheads. France has some nice countryside, especially in the south.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 31, 2005 08:48 AM (0yYS2)
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Make sure you take the correct turn when you hear those songs......I understand they may also be heard in the other direction
Posted by: john Ryan at October 31, 2005 08:56 AM (ads7K)
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October 10 should definitely be a Western holiday or at least marked on a calendar somewhere as Hammer Day or Thank-God-My-Ancestors-Were-Not-Slaughtered-By-Muslim-Invaders Day.
Posted by: Ernie Oporto at October 31, 2005 10:18 AM (/lpvu)
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Except Charles Martel wasn't French, he was a Frank, a Germanic tribe, just like Charlemagne. Which started a trend -- Napoleon wasn't French, he was Corsican. And the toughest unit in the French Army? The Foreign Legion -- again, not Frenchmen.
I swear, though, the way Europe in general is today, Charles Martel and El Cid must be spinning like wood lathes in their graves.
Posted by: Brian B at October 31, 2005 03:41 PM (rGfpg)
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Often unsaid (but not by me) is that the Muslim invasion that Martel thwarted was 3 centuries before the First Crusade.
The Crusades were a RESPONSE to Muslim aggression and therefore using it as a basis for present so-called Muslim grievances is not merely deceptive, it's pure intellectual fraud.
Posted by: Aaron's cc: at October 31, 2005 06:10 PM (ov6Vw)
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To the moroon who states that Frank is not french. I ask him where does he thinks the name France comes from ? from the Gauls ?
Maybe if you would have listened to the advice of these "surrender monkeys", you would not be loosing the war. (oh you didn't know ? probably your leaders didn't tell you). Instead of going like Charles Martel, you're doing it like General Custer.
Posted by: Michel Meyer at November 01, 2005 09:49 AM (ZKAFj)
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"Loosing" the war? As in to loosen, to make unfast, to set free? As in
"loose the dogs of war"? You stupid chickenshit libtard, you can't even spell, but in misspelling, you unknowling state a fact. We have loosed the dogs of war and islam, socialism, and liberalism are
losing at every turn.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at November 02, 2005 10:11 AM (0yYS2)
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The Franks. Wasn't that the German tribe who invaded modern France (Gaul) and named it after themselves?
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2005 07:21 PM (ZaAd/)
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Calling Martel and his troops french is like calling William the conquerer and his normandy troops french. They were not of what we now call the french race. The Franks were Germanic and the Normans were Norsemen. And we all know where they came from. No glory for the frogs in this one.
Posted by: Greyrooster at November 03, 2005 07:29 PM (ZaAd/)
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Michel Moorer er Meyer: The truth is that every country in Europe hates the French. I've been there and listened to locals. The truth is todays france is nothing but a collection of left overs from invasion after invasion. Even their language. France's inferiority complex continues to jump out at every opportunity to belittle those that saved its ass. We know why France tried to pull the rug out from under America and England prior to the action in Iraq. #1 jealousy. Cowardice and jealousy. Cowardice caused by their fear of the Muslim hoard now slowly taking over their country. Now, they are reaping what they sowed and france is burning. Muslims and blacks are taking over the streets and I say tough shit. Should have listened to Bush. What will France be in twenty years? The call to prayer will be heard thoughout the land unless the frogs start taking testosterone shots. As a race they don't produce it on their own.
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October 17, 2005
Air Strikes
Up to 70 terrorist supporters and insurgents were killed today by airstrikes prompting immediate whining about the targeting of civilians.
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"[They] were not terrorists -- they were only a bunch of civilians whose curiosity prompted them to gather around a destroyed Humvee," said Dr. Dhiya Fahdawi, who treated people at a hospital in Ramadi. In the Abu Faraj region, north of Ramadi, about 50 insurgents were killed in operations surrounding a suspected insurgent safe house, the military said
OK so you will forgive me if I don't buy that. If you are dancing on top of our dead boys like you were last month I find it hard to scrape up much sympathy for you. In fact all I can think of right now is Hell Yeah!!!! Last month I saw you on FOXNEWS dancing and grinning, not that FOX feels like posting that video to the net but they had a momentary lapse of judgement and I saw you on WTVW.
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Seventy? That's too bad. Shoulda been more.
And I hope they all died in immense pain.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 17, 2005 12:26 PM (0yYS2)
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Questionable sources there Mr ghost. source one references source two which say's nothing about this. also should we not try to infiltrate the insurgency is it not a basic tactic. Do they not try and do the same to us? Too far out there for me.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 12:50 PM (D3+20)
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>>>"I assure you that both events occurred as described."
menenze's ghost,
lol! well if you say so, and even "assure" me of this, then it just has to be true.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 17, 2005 01:13 PM (8e/V4)
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Bt you said US. Also so what are the3y supposed to do sneak in with the Union Jack draped around their heads?
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 01:14 PM (D3+20)
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MG,
War is nasty business, full of deception and butchery. Other than that, do you have a point?
Posted by: File Closer at October 17, 2005 01:16 PM (xvfRU)
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ghost,
your sources are garbage. The two Brit soldiers were special forces hunting car bombers. The reason they resisted arrest is because the Basra police are considered thoroughly infiltrated by the terrorists.
"Insurgents have infiltrated Iraq's security services, National Security Adviser Muwafaq al-Rubaie has admitted."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4266304.stm
That's why the Brits broke them out of prison-- because it was feared the two soldiers would end up in the hands of the insurgents.
"The British Army said the troops had been handed over by police to a Shia militia group. The men were freed after British troops in armoured vehicles stormed a Basra prison and then a house to which the captives had been taken."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4266304.stm
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 17, 2005 01:25 PM (8e/V4)
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No that is his point. He has an idea that we manufacture events. That is purposely kill civilians and then blame it on the ememy. Strange how this all worked out but he is still going on about it. Conspiracy is fed by doubt and he loves em. Once in while he comes up with good stuff. Some t times some real funny stuff. It's just how he is. He has talent for pissing people off but also a pretty good sense of humor too. I assure you he hates true terrorist just as much as you do he just thinks our government is more evil than they are where I just think governments are beasts that need a big bridle. Evil yes but also useful at times. After the war I don't care if you choke the fed Gov't down to the size of The Food Shoppe as long as you can build roads and defend the country.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 01:25 PM (D3+20)
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Yeah their not terrorist what a load of bull kaka from some whinning doctor why dont he just stick it up his stethiscope
Posted by: sandpiper at October 17, 2005 01:27 PM (stdEd)
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Moonbats come up with some good stuff nowadays.
I see 70 subhuman beasties got their reward! Excellent News! I am sure Satan is busy finding them bunks of red hot pitch-
Ghost boy sounds like a Galloway Spiv.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 17, 2005 01:53 PM (5ceWd)
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Innocent? Oops, my bad. (snorf!)
Posted by: dick at October 17, 2005 01:59 PM (XlQVK)
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I thought MG was busted.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 17, 2005 02:12 PM (1j9aH)
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Me too, Robert. Greg can't stand not to come in here trolling around. I know Howie likes to argue with Greg, but I wish Rusty would ban him forever. He is just too immature to participate in a rational conversation.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 17, 2005 02:39 PM (rUyw4)
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"a bunch of civilians whose curiosity prompted them to gather around a destroyed Humvee"
Yeah right - like they haven't seen one of those before.
"Curiosity" killed the cat (pu$$ies). I guess.
Posted by: JustPlainJoe at October 17, 2005 02:39 PM (Xj6+u)
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Actually I kind of take it as an I support yer thread no matter what he says. It's not the content I'm used to it just that he stopped by is nice. If you ignore him or just carry on normally like it's no big deal you get one comment then he's off to no telling where to say no telling what. Actually JJ you kind of trolled him back last week. He got so into the argument that he really went wild and got banned. He loved it. Gotta love the nuts. The same quality that makes me all enjoy him is the same that allows me to appreciate IM and You and everyone else. I'm still giggling about that farrakkan(BGUH). That was great. Plus I used the term hellibacon yesterday and he just stopped by to remind me who coined that one.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 02:52 PM (D3+20)
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Well, Howie, since I must be honest, I do see your point. And quite frankly, I have come to terms with Osama and have found him to be quite a nice fellow after we discovered we both grew up on farms, his a produce farm and mine a ranch.
But Osama has a level of maturity and discourse that Greg does not have. Greg is more of a classic troll in that he constantly comments off topic, etc.
But, hey, this is not my blog, and you and Rusty do what you think is best. I will not stop coming here because of Greg, but to be sure he irritates me.
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 17, 2005 03:18 PM (rUyw4)
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Greg, four points:
1. We know it's you.
2. You're an idiot.
3. Nobody on this blog is ever going to take seriously any of your cut-n-paste tinfoil moonbat conspiracy crap.
4. You need to find yourself a woman who will go out with you, take her for beer and steaks, and beg her to have sex with you. Quickly.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 17, 2005 03:29 PM (0yYS2)
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 17, 2005 03:39 PM (rUyw4)
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IM,
1.True
2.Truer
3.Evident if you follow any of his links.
4.Even if he has to pay for it!!
Posted by: jesusland joe at October 17, 2005 03:44 PM (rUyw4)
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Yes but he is always willing to be the
most extreme next to him we all sound normal. Contrast man.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 03:52 PM (D3+20)
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Oh Rusty is fed up. I'm a big wus. If Rusty wants him banned and he slips in a new IP on him. He will add it. Rusty adds more time each time First it was about a week or so then a month. Lately he says forever so Mr. Ghost is aware of that. Next I think Rusty will go eternity plus 20 years.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 04:02 PM (D3+20)
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Greg, is that you??? lmao! good to see ya buddy!
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 17, 2005 04:52 PM (8e/V4)
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Greg, were all plenty pissed off at tha Mayor and Gov.
Also, Those roving bands of criminal thugs have me upset as well.
That NO doctor should be tried for murder.
Posted by: Brad at October 17, 2005 06:37 PM (3OPZt)
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Don't respond to greg anymore, you may end up looking like your talking to, well, a ghost.
He's welcome to come back all he wants, but I'll be deleting his comments all I want, no matter whose post they're on.
Posted by: Vinnie at October 17, 2005 07:12 PM (Kr6/f)
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Greg, my wife has a saying: “There is a lid for every tea pot”. I hope you find your soul mate out there somewhere. She is going to have her hands full. When you find her, be sure to take a day off politics and just go see a ball game or a movie. She’s going to need a break from the routine.
At least admit that you donÂ’t color outside your lines much either. YouÂ’re pretty predictable.
Posted by: Brad at October 17, 2005 08:13 PM (6mUkl)
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A British tabloid?, Couldn't you find a more credible source greg, like maybe indymedia.org or something like most kooks?
Posted by: dave at October 17, 2005 08:17 PM (CcXvt)
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After thinking about the link for you know a bit and considering the thread it was posted on. I think the site deserves a second glance. It appears western yet search engines were not hitting very hard on it. It has a registered user only area. It still has that story up that is several months old. Seems to be infested with conspiracy theory of all kinds. Who know what sort of stuff lies down deep there. Or it could be just what it appears or a dead end. I've seen seveal of these western looking but strange sites. Usually they are pacific rim areas you know indonesia and so forth. Just a thought. hmmm.... same methods different set of nuts or possible front??? am I paranoid you bet but still living. I've not really time to fart with it anyway.
Posted by: Howie at October 17, 2005 08:30 PM (D3+20)
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Greg lives in Austin, maybe he should go mack on Blessed Mother Sheehan, Our Lady of the Ditch, next time she's in Crawford, they'd make a perfect couple, although I believe that guy, Jeff the Moonbat Marine, might already be shucking that corn. But then, maybe greg likes "outies" instead of "innies".
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 17, 2005 08:36 PM (0yYS2)
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I must say, Greg does make a good point this once.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 17, 2005 08:51 PM (VP+X3)
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Filthy, the guy's been banned by Rusty, more than once. Rusty's made it abundantly clear that he's not wanted.
Posted by: Vinnie at October 17, 2005 09:06 PM (Kr6/f)
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Fine. But if Greg is right about Iraq being involved with the Oklahoma City bombing, then that might be another justification for the present war.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 17, 2005 09:54 PM (VP+X3)
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If you want to look into it yourself,
start here
And you're right, it would be, but, as of now, nobody knows for sure.
And, since it's rude to take this so far off topic, I'll wrap it up.
Sorry Howie.
Posted by: Vinnie at October 17, 2005 10:39 PM (Kr6/f)
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Hold on there a minute! I was gone all day yesterday. I was not feeling well
(hungover). Was Greg/MG back? And all his comments deleted or something? WAH! I missed it.
Posted by: Oyster at October 18, 2005 05:01 AM (YudAC)
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Not at all Vinnie go right ahead.
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October 06, 2005
NYC Subway Terror Alert
ABCNEWS:According to sources in intelligence, emergency services and police headquarters, when three Iraqi insurgents were arrested several days ago during a raid by a joint FBI-CIA team, one of those caught disclosed the threat. .
This is a breaking story. While there is a lot of doubt precautions are being taken.
Department of Homeland Security sources told ABC News they are very doubtful the threat information is credible, though NYPD sources said the information continues to come in and is disturbing.
Also FOXNEWS:
Confederate Yankee has live coverage of the breaking news. Also GOP & The City , Counterterrorism blog, Terrorism Unveiled live-blogging. Chad at ITB following.
Updated: It now appears the same intelligence that led to the NYC subway alert today also resulted in a raid South of Baghdad.
CNN:The highly classified operation involving the U.S. intelligence community and the U.S. military was carried out against suspected al Qaeda operatives south of Baghdad, CNN has learned from a well-placed U.S. military official. "Significant intelligence was also gathered in this raid, along with al Qaeda operatives who were rounded up," CNN's Jamie McIntyre reported... ...But the official said the raid was the result of the same intelligence about the threat to New York's subway system.
To this story, there will be more.
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The U.S. has become paranoid beyond belief - except for the U.K. tat is!
Posted by: fred at October 06, 2005 05:58 PM (YD7on)
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Hi Fred, Yes we do somethings different in the U.S. For example we like to make coherent postings on Internet message boards. How about you give it a whirl?
Posted by: dave at October 06, 2005 07:59 PM (CcXvt)
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Even a paranoid has real enemys.
Posted by: Howie at October 06, 2005 08:55 PM (D3+20)
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Live, from NorthChimpCom Hotel, St. Louis Missouri: "Obey me and salute, Marine! Obey me or I will hit you again and again!
What?! Silent?! Take that...and that!
Impy: Dammbnit, Klanrooster, you're goin to hurt him!
Klanrooster: This is my war, dammit and vengeance will be mine!
Impy: Ok, just hold him for the camera... he's still not standing at attention.. what shall I do?
Boar: Grunt, knotholes hurt!
Klannie: Oh God, not you again!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at October 07, 2005 05:38 AM (A5eqb)
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Filthy rode subway this morning and did not see one cop till I got out of the station on 42nd. NYPD is a joke. Last group of cops I saw in the subway were not watching the crowd but talking to eachother and laughing.
The NYPD is not preventative, they are reactive. All they need is a mop and bucket to complete their usefullness. Fat, sloppy, slow & Stupid is what I see clustered together jabbering away in Penn Station. These jackasses are not going to stop anything. All they can do is pick up your arm after it has been blown off.
This is reality. I see this so called "elite" force everyday. I have more faith in the riders being able to prevent an attack then the NYPD.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at October 07, 2005 07:44 AM (5ceWd)
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It's almost comical the reaction to this warning, when people claim that the warning coincides with Bush's message and that it is used as a "scare tactic" that pushes a constant state of fear.
however the people that are saying the threats are hype are the same ones that would be asking:
"What did Bush know? Why did the Government ignore this threat?
before an inquiry the first time a threat became a terrorist incident, and try and hold the Government responsible for inaction on terrorism intelligence.
Posted by: dave at October 07, 2005 08:09 AM (CcXvt)
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Filthy: All the cops are at Penn station with their dogs having their pictures taken so their kids can see them on tomorrows news.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 07, 2005 09:36 AM (M7kiy)
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DSMoron: I'll print this one. Never can tell. You might have it read back to you. SLOWLY. So you can understand.
Posted by: greyrooster at October 07, 2005 10:29 PM (M7kiy)
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August 14, 2005
McCain Interview and Bill Kristol goes off on Rumsfeld
IÂ’ve been following John McCain for a bit.
Today he was on FNS. Pretty good interview. It might seem
if you asked Bill Kristol that the good Senator from Arizona is a better spokesman for the president on Iraq that is old Rumsy.
Or will we? The president seems determined to complete the job. Is his defense secretary? In addition to trying to abandon the term "war on terror," Rumsfeld and some of his subordinates have spent an awful lot of time in recent weeks talking about withdrawing troops from Iraq--and before the job is complete.
That was Kristol.
Now for McCain.
I don't know, because the president, I think, very appropriately made it very clear in the strongest terms that we are there until Iraqis are capable of carrying out their own security responsibilities. He could not have been more forceful or more clear, in my view. And I totally agree with him, and I think his statement was unequivocal. And now you're seeing these statements, both before and after, which are in contradiction to what he had to say.
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August 10, 2005
Military Bans the Term 'Warrior'
(Colorado Springs, CO) The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) whose chief is U.S. Adm. Timothy J. Keating has
decided that the military jargon is insensitive to American Indians. Although there have been no complaints, Adm. Keating has banned the use of certain words, including warrior, brave, and chief, from the military lexicon.
According to a NORAD spokesperson, Master Sgt. John Tomassi, the military is following the lead of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in prohibiting the use of Indian names.
Just think. With one stroke of a pen, Adm. Keating changed my perception of the North American aerospace defense network from a high-tech and reliable weapons and intelligence command into a bunch of whimpering pussies. After learning of this latest politically correct infestation at the commanding officer level, I immediately felt less safe.
It's also disturbing that Keating's irresponsible edict folds all too nicely into Osama bin Laden's propaganda to al-Qaeda terrorists and recruits that the American military is weak and cannot win. The U.S. military can't be expected to intimidate an enemy when it's viewed as sensitive and cowardly, bending over for every whiny complaint in society.
Rumsfeld should send out a war party to bring back Keating's scalp.
SEE-DUBYA with the UPDATE: Mike, I apologize for stepping on your excellent post here, but I've just received Keating's memo about NORAD's updated nomenclature, which I am posting in the extended entry below.
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What an asshole. Damn, I hope he didn't ban that term.
Posted by: elliott at August 10, 2005 06:04 AM (XlQVK)
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Adm. Keating needs to go, now! You do not need to be as smart as Bill Clinton to know that war is not PC. And as we found out 30 years ago you lose wars when you are PC.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 10, 2005 07:17 AM (03F0I)
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Well, that has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Our local paper had an article over the weekend about how the NCAA has banned all mascots and team names that are associated with Indians from their tournaments. This is just as bad.
Posted by: Drew at August 10, 2005 08:12 AM (Ml8z/)
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"Rainbow Love Happy Fun Bomb". Were do I get one?
Posted by: Howie at August 10, 2005 08:37 AM (D3+20)
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I wonder if he refers to the President as Commander-in-Chief?
Posted by: dittybopper at August 10, 2005 09:13 AM (j2M1Q)
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit ...
/TJ
Posted by: TJ at August 10, 2005 09:35 AM (/0bzs)
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With all due respect, what an asshat. "Warrior" is a fine old English word, first appearing about 1250 as 'werreieor' via Norman French 'werreier' which means 'to war'. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Indians. God, I hate PC stupidity.
Posted by: Scott in CA at August 10, 2005 09:43 AM (FaLdp)
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Army Picks Next Generation Predator.
I guess they'll have to pick a better name. Predator is just too angry sounding.
Maybe they should call it the Faerie instead of Predator. It will still make someone's dreams come true....
Posted by: lawhawk at August 10, 2005 10:01 AM (AcoYr)
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"Rainbow Love Happy Fun Bomb"
Delivered by the "Shiny Happy Peace Unicorn Bomber".
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 10, 2005 10:39 AM (0yYS2)
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So the Indians of America are no longer warriors. How does that help them? If they are not warriors, what are they?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 10, 2005 03:49 PM (oKjnh)
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Rooster: two words, Casino owners.
Posted by: Butch at August 10, 2005 04:43 PM (Gqhi9)
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At last: Communication.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 11, 2005 09:33 PM (CBNGy)
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Commendable asshat initiative. A couple of other military terms/words they should consider banning:
'Chief(tain)' another one of those damn native(french) words..
'Apache' very insulting.. rename that bird at once.
'Tomahawk missile' could i.e. be renamed to Woodenaxe missile
'Indian'(Indios) the term is extremly insensitive because they ain't real Indians and believe it or not, you're not really in India (don't buy everything Columbus said).
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Beautiful Dreamer
OK, so he's not beautiful. In fact, Hugo Chavez is most likely one of the ugliest humans I've ever seen. But he most certainly is having dreams of grandeur. Or smoking one heck of a lot of crack. In a speech to thousands of students (does anyone ever speek to anyone besides students?), Chavez says that if the US decides to invade Venezula, they
will be defeated. He then goes on to admit that he doesn't have any evidence that the US is going to invade, but that we have never given up on the dream of invading Venezula or Cuba.
Now, Hugo, I hate to burst your bubble and pull you so rudely out of your happy place, but I feel that it is my civic duty to inform you of a few facts.
1. If the US wanted to invade Cuba, it would now be the 52d state (we'd have to do something to keep Puerto Rico from getting jealous). And nothing that you, Castro or Russia could do could stop us. It's always been this way and will always continue to be this way. Oh, and the Bay of Pigs wasn't an invasion. It was a clusterf*ck.
2. In case you haven't noticed, the United States has the most powerful standing army in the world today. Remember the fact that nobody had ever successfully invaded Afghanastan? We did. Remember Iraq? The Republican Guard never stood a chance. So I don't know what makes you think you'd fare any better. What are you going to do, throw coffee beans at us?
Chavez then goes on with his inane blatherings.
Chavez called the United States the "most savage, cruel and murderous empire that has existed in the history of the world."
The Venezuelan leader said "socialism is the only path," and told the students the collective goal is to "save a world threatened by the voracity of U.S. imperialism."
Yes, yes. We're the Evil Empire. That's why our poorest people are richer than most countries richest. Sure. Capitalism doesn't work. My dream is shattered. I'm going to leave my high-paying job now and drive my nice car home and park it in my two-car garage. I'll go in and turn off our 54" screen TV and tell my kids to get off their two computers so that I can tell them how bad capitalism is. And as we have steak and potatoes for dinner, we'll mourn the fact that our system doesn't work.
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Yes, but the fact that none of the conversations will occur in Spanish is proof that we live in a inferior system. That plus the no siestas thing.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:31 AM (jPCiN)
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Well, my kids could carry on a conversation in Spanish, but desite my year in Texas, I just can't seem to get it.
Posted by: Drew at August 09, 2005 09:34 AM (Ml8z/)
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Yep this guy is trouble with a capital T. So far he's managed to rig his own election. Buy 1.5 million rifles for his army and take away the right to bear arms from the people. All this while keeping all that oil money from doing anything for his country just like the rest of the rulers there have done. He talks like he is for the people but if it walks like a dictator talks like a dictator. Well you get the idea.
Posted by: Howie at August 09, 2005 09:47 AM (D3+20)
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54" inch T.V.? Dude, that's
tiny!
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at August 09, 2005 09:54 AM (Kr6/f)
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See, that's what I mean! I've failed!
Posted by: Drew at August 09, 2005 09:57 AM (Ml8z/)
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The Venezuelan leader said "socialism is the only path,"
Let's hope Camrade Chavy introduces plan-based economy..
Posted by: Ren at August 09, 2005 12:51 PM (a9tRx)
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Since my tv is only 45", I suppose I should consider applying for federal or state aid.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 01:44 PM (jPCiN)
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Not to burst your bubble...but that is the point. Materialism.
That is why we are in trouble in the Middle East. Why our religion of Democracy and Capitalsim (Government Sponsored Free Enterprise) is under attack. A little known fact: The Father of modern Islamic Fascism came and visited the Colorado School System...as he was an educator he came for a visit in the 50's. He concluded that the "west" was the most vial , materialistic, immorale people in the world. And that true believers of Islam should fight the spread of the western culture to the Middle East. And that is exactly what they are doing.
I am not suggesting that you sell/give away your 54" TV. Just suggesting that maybe we should slow down the export a little...maybe start with less McDonalds, KFC, and only 27" TVs.
CL
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CL
That is why we so surely rock as a country. You as a citizen of this land, or really any of the free ones, can choose for yourself which road to choose. To be honest, apart from my guitars, I give 2 craps about my possesions, and care everything for the people in my life. The thing that really makes that a special position is not that it is materialistic or not, it is that I had the free will to make it. Compare and contrast to our islamic critics.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 02:18 PM (jPCiN)
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Yes, because we all know that enslaving your people (socialism & communisim), blowing up everyone in site (Muslims), torture and mass murder (socialists, communists & Nazis) religion sponsored rape, murder, spouse & child abuse (Mulsims) are all such better alternatives then our "vile" capitalism.
Posted by: Drew at August 09, 2005 02:18 PM (Ml8z/)
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Chris Louviere: If you agree with him, why are you still here?
While I agree some things about this society sucks. It is not materialism. Materialism is simply a word invented and used by have nots. Those that have proven they cannot compete against their genetic superiors.
The foul lanquage certain sectors of our society use would rile any religious people. The word motherfucker seems to be the most popular word in one American Culture. But its not the most popular amongst most. If I were a foreigner who loved and wanted the best for his family I would not wish them watch many American movies or television. Certain groups of Americans dress like they belong to Ringling Bros, Barnam and Bailey. Who ever heard of wearing your pants below your ass. However, one must take the good with the bad. And most about America is good. If not true why do people continue to do anything to live here?
You so called educated leader of Islam is in fact just another jealous old shit.
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NAGASAKI,
Japan (AP) - A siren wailed and a bronze bell rang out Tuesday as
Nagasaki marked the moment 60 years ago when an American plane dropped
a plutonium bomb, killing tens of thousands and sealing Japan's defeat
in World War II...
...When the
silence ended, Nagasaki Mayor Iccho Itoh had some angry words for the
leaders of the nuclear powers, and especially the United States.
"To the
citizens of the United States of America: We understand your anger and
anxiety over the memories of the horror of the 9/11 terrorist attacks,"
he said. "Yet, is your security enhanced by your government's policies
of maintaining 10,000 nuclear weapons."
Why, yes it is, Mayor Icky. Just look over there at those peaceful, freedom loving nations to your west. See 'em? Ya gotta know who I'm referring to. I would dare say that if it weren't for our nuclear weapons, you'd be giving your speech in Chinese, with a Korean translation. It isn't as though they don't have a score to settle. Much as I despise the Communists, they do have a legitimate greivance against you and your country, bub.
After all, do bells toll and sirens wail on the anniversary of the rape of Nanking?
Your nation's desire to rule the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere caused far more death and destruction in the world than any weapon we've yet designed. The nation of Japan raped, pillaged, plundered and slaughtered its way through Asia in a way even the most insane jihadist can only dream about. And let's not delude ourselves here. Dropping those bombs spared Japan from an invasion by hundreds of thousands of battle hardened U.S. soldiers and marines. How many cities would have been obliterated then? How many civilians would have died? Hell, Mayor Icky, you might not have even been born.
How naive of you, Mayor Icky. Do you think that if your nation had beaten us to a nuclear weapon, they would have hesitated to use it against us to turn the tide of their ever-increasing failures? I think not.
I should get my big coffee table book, "The Chronological History of World War II" back from my younger brother. It isn't just a history book, it's literally a day by day recounting of WWII from September 3, 1939 to August 15th, 1945. I could give a comprehensive list of anniversary dates chronicling Japan's atrocities. And the body count would far exceed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And no bells would toll nor sirens wail on those dates, either.
So spare us the guilt trip, Mayor Icky. You'll find no sympathy here. Japan wouldn't be what it is today without us. And any time you feel up to snuff, kick our 50,000 military members out and feel free to defend yourselves from the ChiComs and the DPRK.
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you boys are just begging for a nuclear holocaust. . . careful what you wish for. . . I thought it was universally agreed to that nuclear weapons are an abomination. Glad to have all you fabulous death fetishists to prove me wrong. well go on, then! Praise and indeed relish in mass killing! See where it gets you! And don't give that horse foo about, "look what
they do to people!"
You foolhardy wanna-be hawks will scream and flee when fire of Allah comes to devour your children. But what about your children's children? Underneath it all, you're cowards. Why don't you put your lives on the line to
save freeeedom! Oh well, American Idealism will have been long dead by that time. At least they'll have all this lovely evidence that you're the ones who killed it, by eating the poison fed you from likes of your jingoistic pundit heros. . . And I happen like falafell. so there!
Posted by: mustafa at August 09, 2005 03:40 AM (jWaQK)
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Mustafa: Seems to me that "you're" the one begging for death and destruction.
Posted by: Oyster at August 09, 2005 05:51 AM (YudAC)
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" Why don't you put your lives on the line to save freeeedom![sic]"
I did. Have you?
Posted by: File Closer at August 09, 2005 07:41 AM (X989z)
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I am a reserve officer and I have been to the middle east. I did my part.
Are you really living in the US? Do you think Allah will put some sort of magical shield around you when one of your 'brothers' sets off a nuke?
What would you do if your 'brother' comes knocking on your door asking for refuge because the police are after him and he just so happens to have a suicide belt wrapped around his waist?
Are you willing to report a 'brother' who tells you of a place to bomb a place in the US?
What about if you have a family member who happens to live near where the event is planned? Would you even tell your family member.
Oh, be sure to check out my blog where I have documented "Signs that Allah might not be on your side." Does not seem that Allah gives a rats ass about Jihad.
My guess is that you must be a real chickenshit. You see, if you were a real threat, you'd be behind bars, or trying to get to Iraq, or dead. Instead, you are just another nutjob. If you think your not free here, why not go live somewhere else and see how free youd be there.
Posted by: Fred Fry at August 09, 2005 08:10 AM (JXdhy)
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I see there is a new troll at Jawa. You can tell they all come from the same manufacturer because the outrage at a completely one sided view of the world is the same. I suppose it would be too much to ask this clueless twit to try to look at the world from a more balanced perspective, especially when regarding history, but am sure it would fall on deaf, and outraged, ears.
Rock on mustafa.
Posted by: Defense Guy at August 09, 2005 09:14 AM (jPCiN)
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Hey Mustafa,
Listen up you camel rapist, YOUR brethren decided to pick a fight with the biggest kid on the block and your chickenshit coward "brothers" are damn lucky we haven't seen fit to turn Mecca, Tehran, Damascus and every other shithole in that part of the world into a shimmering, radioactive piece of glass. It's you and your friends that are the true cowards. Your favorite targets are the unarmed and defenseless variety. Ergo, your buddies wander into a group of people trying to vote, get jobs or kids getting candy AND BLOW THEM UP. Or, they fly planes into skyscrapers. I don't see many Americans doing that asshole. My favorite are the "freedom fighters" who sneak into Israeli settlements, murder the parents and chase five year old girls around the house and shoot them as they hide under the bed. Truly the behavior of brave people. The fact is you morons have never been able to create anything in your miserable existences and find it easier to blame the Jooos or the United States for your backward, pathetic excuse for a religion.
Now go back to raping little boys shitball.
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Friend Yoshi's ding dong glow in dark! Evil subhuman ape barbarian american drop spit atom can on peaceful Jappanese people and now Ding dong glow in dark. We bery bery angry!
You japs are lucky that you have ding dongs to glow in the dark rather than Mothra looking shit growing off your puny yellow bodies. You should be sucking down Cokes and eating big macs on this day and thanking what ever heathen god you worship that you did not go out Tojo's way.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 09, 2005 12:09 PM (5ceWd)
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Is it even possible to not love Filthy?
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at August 09, 2005 12:15 PM (Kr6/f)
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I love you too Mad Dog Vinnie. Not like I love Scott Baio, but... More like my love of Mr. French.
Posted by: Filthy Allah at August 09, 2005 02:27 PM (5ceWd)
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Mustafa (not to bait the troll but I gotta ask?)
How will my children have children if Allah has devoured them?
Falafell? how awful! I thought it was spelled "falafel"!
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Banzai: Ohh. {relieved from the surprise} Oh, Scar, it's just you.
Shenzi: We were afraid it was somebody important.
Banzai: Yeah, you know, like Mufasa.
Shenzi: Yeah.
Scar: I see.
Banzai: Now that's power.
Shenzi: Tell me about it. I just hear that name and I shudder.
Banzai: Mufasa.
Shenzi: {Shivering} Ooooh. ... Do it again.
Banzai: Mufasa.
Shenzi: Ooooh!
Banzai: Mufasa. Mufasa! Mufasa!
Shenzi: ...Oooh! It tingles me.
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Mufasa! Mustafa!
so close, such resemblance!
Posted by: heehee at August 09, 2005 04:37 PM (wS6S6)
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Knew the asshole mustafa would show his true colors.
Don't worry about our children you goat huggin prick. Worry about your own. If any of them are left after we have had enough of this backward assed muslim shit.
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August 05, 2005
EU recognizes Iranian right to peaceful nuclear energy - Countdown to nuclear terrorism begins
And so we begin phase one of the world's march to nuclear terrorism, facilitated by a Europe too fearful of confrontation to have the fortitude to stand up against Iranian threats.

[(Nuclear power plant (UCF) 295 km from Tehran March 2005 (AFP/Henghameh Fahimi)]
By caving in now and "recognizing the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy but not to making atomic fuel with possible weapons use," the EU has set in place the fullfilment of certain forthcoming tension to develop nuclear weapons throughout the Middle East with Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Saudia Arabia - all scrambling to be the new kid on the block with the latest in nuke-em technologies. And along with these exercises in random acts of insanity, we can expect to experience random acts of nuclear terrorism by terrorists using weaponry acquired from Iran, it's agents, and Islamic terrorists facilitated by it's agents.
If there is a single leader in the free world that seriously believes Iran does not intend to develop atomic weapons - then they haven't been listening to the Islamic regime. They are living in a dream world so common to moonbats, and there will soon come a time when in the midst of "recognizing the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy" - nuclear weapons will rain down upon our cities and nuclear weapons will be the weapon of choice for Islamic terrorists who have no qualms about dying while destroying entire nations.
VIENNA (AFP) - The European Union offer submitted to Iran on Friday recognizes the Islamic Republic's right to peaceful nuclear energy but not to making atomic fuel with possible weapons use, diplomats said.
The EU says it "respects Iran's rights under the (nuclear) Non-Proliferation Treaty for the peaceful use of nuclear energy," a diplomat at the UN atomic agency in Vienna told AFP in summarizing the report.
If Iran does acquire atomic bombs, which it fully intends to do, it will most certainly put pressure on other countries in the region do the same, especially since many Arab countries believe it's unfair that Israel has nuclear weapons and they don't. If Arab countries, particularly Saudi Arabia, Egypt and possibly Syria, found themselves caught between a nuclear-armed Israel and a nuclear-armed Iran, it would greatly increase pressures to pursue their own nuclear options - increasing the potential for terrorists to gain access to nuclear weapons. Such events can only result in not only a regional arms race in the Middle East which is extremely likely to be destabilizing, given the number and intensity of conflicts and instabilities in the region and rapidly spreading throughout the world.
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Are those Israeli Air Force F-16s I see on the horizon?
Posted by: Brad at August 05, 2005 12:45 PM (3OPZt)
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Will there be mig 25s 0r 19s over Washington D.C. comming from the EU?
Posted by: sandpiper at August 05, 2005 08:06 PM (GOyHB)
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The EU has dropped their pants and bent over for the muslims. What are the dummies doing? Relying on Israel again?
Get ready for anothr mass migration. Europeans to America. They have given Europe to the rag heads and will not wish to live in their own countries.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 08:38 PM (CBNGy)
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A win/win scenario for the EU. Let the Israelis do the dirty work they know is necessary.
Then their leftist domestic pols can breath a sigh of relief and bash Israel and the great Satan the United States. Pick up votes without having to do the real business of State.
Europe once again holds the coat and waits until the dust settles.
I like most Americans find no reason to want their friendship. Except for the Brits, I have no use for them.
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CNN this morning has an interesting article about a group of childrens' art that is on display in New York. But these aren't just any children. These children come from Dafur. And these aren't just any childrens' drawings. They depict the violence and hatred that they see on a daily basis in Dafur.
Human rights activists, seeing this display, see something else. They see representations of crimes and human rights violations.
"For the first time we have graphic representation of the crimes," said Olivier Bercault, a Human Rights Watch researcher.
But why are you so excited about having pictures of the human rights violations? After all, as recently as February 2005, the UN said that while there were bad things happening there, they weren't actually bad enough to do anything about. And Kofi Annan himself, when visiting the region in 2004, got firsthand evidence of the atrocities that were happening. And what did he do then? He smiled, made the people a few vague promises, got his picture taken and left.
I don't think there's any question in anyone's mind nowdays what is going on in Darfur. The question at this point should be what is going to be done about it? I feel like the ball is in the UN's court, but I'm certainly not holding my breath for them to actually step up and do the right thing. How many more children have to live with this sort of horror before you decide that it's enough?
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"For the first time we have graphic representation of the crimes," said Olivier Bercault, a Human Rights Watch researcher.
Does HRW not read the New York Times or
Nicholas Kristof? Kristof, in one of his finest moments ever, actually used his space on the page to post pictures from Dafur, showing the bodies piled up like cordwood (
I believe the images used in the editorial). And those pictures were more newsworthy than anything else the NYT has done on the subject of the Dafur genocide since the world first learned of it months ago.
We know that over 200,000 people have been slaughtered in the genocide, but HRW is only getting wind of the situation now? What the heck have they been doing? Sipping tea out on the verandah [Joe Wilson doll not included]?
Personally, I've been writing on Dafur for months now. Actually, my first posting specifically on the subject is
April 8, 2004, which is more than a year ago. We've known the genocide has been ongoing for nearly all that time. HRW has known. And now they say that they didn't have a graphic representation of the genocide? Pathetic.
Posted by: lawhawk at August 05, 2005 09:40 AM (AcoYr)
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I saw on CNN this morning that UNICEF was saying there is a huge famine going on in Niger, and it is only going to get worse.
U.N is set to deliver enough food to feed everyone, and use U.N soldiers to distribute the food -- Just kidding, they're still at the "talking" about the famine stage.
Perhaps they'll have a special council into the meaning of the word "famine"? much like the one on "genocide" in Dufur that has thus far stopped the U.N springing into action?
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Marine Snipers Attacked; Ansar al-Sunnah Claims to Hold One Marine Hostage
Other than the 14 U.S. Marines and one civilian translator who were killed by a powerful roadside bomb in Western Iraq, covered by Mac
here, six U.S. Marine
snipers were ambushed and killed yesterday by terrorists.
Five of the snipers died Monday during an insurgent attack on a patrol outside Haditha, according to a Marine Corps news release. The body of a sixth was discovered later a few miles away. All were killed by small-arms fire, the Marines said.
Pentagon officials in Washington said the men were members of Marine sniper teams operating in the Haditha area.
Truly a sad occurence, but how do snipers get caght off guard and killed? According to a Marine on the ground at the time, all was quiet until a small round of small arms fire alerted Marines on the ground. When they made it up to the snipers nest, five Marines were found. In other words, the enemy snuck up and killed the snipers. Were they tipped off by a member of the Iraqi National Guard of the whereabouts of the snipers?
It is extremely plausible such a tip may have happened. One of the primary concerns of the United States military and the ING is that terrorist and/or insurgent moles have been recruited and joined the ranks of the Iraq military. Snipers do not just get found because they are trained to hide their position.
The Army of Ansar al-Sunnah has claimed responsibility for killing five of the Marine snipers and states they are holding the sixth hostage.
The group's Web site Wednesday posted still photographs showing a bloody, badly wounded body wearing Marine camouflage trousers and two hooded gunmen standing in front of several rifles. Masked gunmen had shown up in the Haditha public market Monday afternoon displaying helmets, flak jackets and other equipment they said was taken from the bodies of the dead Marines.
I have not found the new URL to Ansar al-Sunnah's web site as of yet, but I will continue to search for it. Of course the body of the sixth sniper was found one mile from the original ambush site. Ansar al-Sunnah also states they beheaded five of the snipers, though as with is always the case with Ansar al-Sunnah in particular, the truth is usually far from what they claim.
SITE reports Ansar al-Sunnah released a communique saying they killed eight Marines and are holding one hostage. There is no other news concerning two other Marine deaths in Haditha.
On the positive side of things, Iraqi authorities announced the capture of an Ansar al-Sunnah leader, Majid Mohammed Ahmeen, who was the group's commander in Diyala province.
Update:
I have not found Ansar al-Sunnah's site yet, but Vlad has found a video made (August 4 entry). The video clearly shows jihadis firing mortar rounds, what else is new, and then what appears to be a dead Marine. Sniper rifles are then shown and a pair of dogtags. The assault though is not shown nor is the Marine they are supposedly holding hostage. You would think if they had a Marine held hostage they would show video of him.
Warning: The images are gruesome.
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maybe they can saw Majid Mohammed Ahmee head off on video, it seems fitting if terrorism isn't Islamic to give him the proper apostates death, beheading:
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I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.
Posted by: dave at August 03, 2005 03:29 PM (DO6vD)
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R.I.P. fallen heros of the Marine Corps. Your deaths will not go unavenged, I promise you that much.
Posted by: Sgt. America at August 03, 2005 03:53 PM (jdyEn)
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the terrorists are the ones who stole america from the NATIVE AMERICANS. Every american death is pleasing and i hope al qaeda liberate america again and chop their heads off.
Posted by: naveed at August 03, 2005 07:31 PM (XfUdJ)
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Naveed you are an inbred son of a pig.
Posted by: Jester at August 03, 2005 08:03 PM (QKZX5)
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I love when non-Americans try to tell others about their country. In the case of Naveed though, it's even more ironic because he's in England. What a moron. You're the reason why trash like yourself do not stand a chance. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 03, 2005 08:04 PM (8WaYp)
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Since weÂ’re quoting the Koran, I have one too:
And know that out of all the booty that you may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,-and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy and the wayfarerÂ…
-SURAH 8:41
See how generous Islam is my American friends,
Little Ali Hassan at the Haditha Orphanage is really going to love that M4A1 assault rifle
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 03, 2005 11:09 PM (8KBv8)
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Naveed, your blathering comments are about as useless as a pig in Mecca.
It is true that "American" colonists took (and in many cases, purchased) the land from the Native Americans. This occurred during a time when such "imperialist" expansion was the norm, not the exception. Oh, but how many cultures of this world have Arab Muslimes (I misspelled it for a reason) uprooted and/or enslaved? Northern/Eastern/Central Africa, Spain, Persia, Central Asia, Turkey, the Balkans, etc. These lands have all suffered at the hands of Muslime terrorists. Your Muslime ancestors first attacked Christianity by destroying the Christian Byzantine and Persian empires, AND the Christian monarchies in Syria (Ghassanids) and Iraq (Montherits). Hmmm... didn't the Christian Crusades occur after that? I wonder why...
Don't even preach to us about being terrorists, you blind idiot! Your culture's past (and present!!) reeks of expansionism and terrorism. You just hide it behind Allah.
Speaking of pigs in Mecca...
Naveed, being a good Muslim, lives in England, so he can enjoy the wealth and freedom provided by the "terrorists" he claims to hate. What are you hiding from Naveed? Don't like the freedom enjoyed by your Muslime brothers in the Holy Land? Is it a bit too violent for you in your home town and/or country? You enjoy the peace and security of England, don't you? Chad is right; you (and the millions of other "Muslimes" like you) are the reason your Muslime "crusade" will fail.
Hey, I just thought of something: is it possible that your post violated a new law in the UK? I think I'll forward your post and your email address to a buddy at Paddington Green...
Posted by: Wild Bill at August 03, 2005 11:22 PM (Zzdkl)
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Now now now now now, thereÂ’s no need for name calling. We all walked of the same boat after the flood. Both Christians and Muslims can agree on that.
Nobody is a pig here. Pigs eat pig feed, Muslims eat cup ramen and Americans eat freedom fries. God is good, all is well.
Wild Bill, if you are Christian, u should learn to tern the other cheek.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 03, 2005 11:51 PM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru, if you're replying to my post, I'm not sure why you pounced on me rather than Jester. Am I more of a threat to you than Jester? He had the balls to address Naveed's pig heritage outright; I only implied pig.
Here's the deal:
I don't take too kindly to someone who enjoys, and wishes for, the violent, painful deaths of any/all Americans (or any person for that matter). I think that calling someone a "pig" is rather mild compared to stating that "every american death is pleasing... chop their heads off." Keep it real Morimoto. It's what's happened since we all got off that boat that matters now.
And please don't preach to me about what a Christian should do. Are you a Christian? I can't "tern" the other cheek; I've run out of cheeks. Muslims aren't hindered by such teachings (quite the opposite!), yet they readily invoke them for Christians (to gain an advantage?). I believe that the peaceful teachings of Jesus (the Injil) will ultimately prevail over the violent teachings of Muhammad (the Hadith), but some other Christians are gonna have to win this war that way. I guess I'm weak; I can't do it anymore.
Here's hoping that all Muslim terrorists spend eternity submitting to Iblis as the new tenants of the Hawijah.
Posted by: Wild Bill at August 04, 2005 01:37 AM (Zzdkl)
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Naveed, you're not playing your islamic victim card right. You're supposed to justify the brutal disgusting and barbaric acts done in the name of Islam by telling everybody how America has opressed Islam..
I'll give you some hints:
Afghanistan: Got weapons from the US to fight the Soviets.
Gulf war I: US saved Mecca's ass from Saddam.
Bosnia: The US stopped the genocide done against the Muslims.
Gulf war II: Gave the Shia freedom to practice their religion (I know, it's a weak argument because you tend to throw carbombs at them too..)
Posted by: Ren at August 04, 2005 08:27 AM (a9tRx)
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All the more reason why captured Jihadi terrorists ought to be interrogated using blow-torches, and once answers have been extracted, they should be impaled alongside the roads and highways of Iraq.
Dead Jihadis' bodies should be rigged with explosives so that when their local village support network comes out to bury them, kaboom!
(Muslims like to bury their dead within 24 hours, its a religious requirement).
Posted by: Michael Lopez-Calderon at August 04, 2005 09:37 AM (x6TjU)
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Wild bill, it was more of a suggestion than “preaching.”
But if u want to know why I “pounced on” you, when indeed others have said a lot worse, it is because I guessed you were Christian and I believe I guessed right. I am simply going by biblical principle. People of high spirituality receive high rewards, but also high punishment when they mess up. In the same way, it is possible that an adulterer has committed a greater sin than a murderer if the adulterer has high knowledge of the word of God, and the murderer has none.
I do not believe that Naveed has said anything that should draw attack from Christians. He is only acting according to his religion, and he is just a victim if anything. U chose to confront a Muslim acting accordingly under Islam by attacking both the individual and his faith. While attacking Islam or any false teaching is biblical, Attacking the individual is not. I believe I am keeping it “real”as you call it. Don’t you realize that Naveed has stayed in the comfort of his faith while managing to have you act outside of your own. That may have been his plan to begin with. U may feel like u told him off, but to me, it just looks like you fell into a trap.
I believe u know a lot about Islam, I think u know enough about it to know that what Naveed said was most likely influenced heavily by his faith. So why do you offend him? I also think u know enough about your own religion to know how to respond to Naveed, but instead u are calling him names with people like Jester and Chad. That is why I felt that you should learn to turn the other cheek. IÂ’m sure u can please may fellow Americans and your Government by joining in on offending Naveed, but I donÂ’t see how it would please God. They eat and drink with you but their heart is not with you. 神に従うのが一番大事
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 09:55 AM (8KBv8)
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Uh, Kaoru, where did Naveed say anything about his religion? If someone says the Americans are terrorists because they took land from Native Americans and uses this as the basis to wish Americans dead, they are a moron stuck on twisted history.
I appreciate you including my name in your last comment, but no where did I attack Islam in any way. Please choose your comments a bit more wisely.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 04, 2005 10:13 AM (Yxk8B)
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See how generous Islam is my American friends
Funniest quote by far on this board. You should get your own show, like Chapelle but with Burkas, and funny fatwas for skits.
Posted by: dave at August 04, 2005 10:34 AM (DO6vD)
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Chad! Please! Do you really think that Naveed feels Americans should all die because of what happened with the Native Americans? He feels that way because he is Muslim, and according to the Koran, non-Muslims have three choices; convert, pay taxes to Muslims, or die.
Also, everyone else seems quit convinced that Naveed is Muslim, why else would they be using Islam against him.
I believe I said that attacking Islam was biblical. Calling the individual names is not. That is why I included your name, because u called him a “moron” and “trash.” If you want to be politically correct, it is better to offend an individual than to attack a religion. If you want to be Christian, you challenge false teachings like Islam and be careful not to offend the individual. That Is what I am telling Wild Bill, because he identifies himself as a Christian. So Chad, what I say should not concern you unless u are Christian. You are talking about being politically correct if your defense is not attacking Islam, I was talking about being biblically correct.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 11:06 AM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru: I understand what you are saying.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:33 AM (x+5JB)
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I’m sorry Chad, I misunderstood you when you said that Naveed did not mention anything about his religion. I thought you were suggesting that he was not Muslim, but I realize now that you simply did not understand how Naveed can be in compliance with Islam without mentioning his religion. You see, all of the offensive things that Naveed said about America is in compliance with Islam. Non-Muslims like Americans are infidels in the Koran and must be killed. Muslims who befriend infidels must also be killed. Also, Muslims can treat “infidels” however they want. So yes, Naveed is being a good Muslim if you want to know the truth. I will quote from the Koran as proof if you wish.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 11:35 AM (8KBv8)
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"You see, all of the offensive things that Naveed said about America is in compliance with Islam. Non-Muslims like Americans are infidels in the Koran and must be killed."
Kaoru: Well said. Now if only Moslems who refute this would own up to these facts.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 04, 2005 11:46 AM (x+5JB)
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I can assure you my name calling is just that, as I am mighty angry about the BS the liberals swallow about the lies of Islam. The rise of Islam IS a real threat to the life I chose to live and I would be miserable in an Islamic society...even more so than if the Germans or Japanese had won WW2. To all the Muslims who defend their way of life...please piss off back to your own societies and stop trying to change ours. I'm a mighty proud westerner and the infidels in my eyes are the ones who follow Allah and all that other islamic crap.
Well said Wild Bill, you have a good grasp of history.
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 06:57 PM (QKZX5)
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U donÂ’t have to justify name calling to me Jester, the suggestion I made to Wild Bill was strictly Christian to Christian. I do not have any suggestion on how secular persons should conduct themselves.
“I would be miserable in an Islamic society...even more so than if the Germans or Japanese had won WW2.”
On a secular note, I hope u are not suggesting that if Japan “won” the war, Americans would have had to live under Japanese rule. You give us too much credit. Japan was after South-East Asia and the South Pacific, not the world. Japan was a limited power with a limited vision. Japan’s attack on America was a desperate attempt to keep the China campaign from falling apart. In protest of Japan’s conquest in China, the Americans made the strategic move of cutting off Japans oil and other supplies. Japan’s objective in fighting America was to get America off its back, so that they do not have to withdraw from China. An unconditional surrender was an American objective.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 04, 2005 08:03 PM (8KBv8)
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Kaoru..I also respect your knowledge of history. You would have to admit that the Japanese psyche would not be comfortable with Islamic doctrine though, as the Japanese are a forward thinking progressive people. I am not Christian nor do I profess to be as I would not turn the other cheek and am far too cynical to believe in harmony.
Posted by: Jester at August 04, 2005 10:22 PM (QKZX5)
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Harmony ? Jester, I think you have Christianity confused with some other religion. Perhaps Buddhism?
Harmony with whom? Muslims, idolaters, or atheists? Do you believe that Christianity never goes on the offensive? Do you not know that God kills?
Yes, we are told not to offend people and to turn the other cheek when offended, especially by non-believers. This does not mean that we respect their ways, or that we do not intend on trying to destroy their ungodly practices. Islam and Christianity is similar in the respect that we both want to put down what is not of our religion. But in that war, Christians simply have a lot more rules of engagement.
Christianity is not the flowery religion that many people like to present it as. The Christianity you are thinking of is much like secular Islam when it comes to level of devotion.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 05, 2005 01:30 AM (8KBv8)
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It's not Christianity vs Islam it's USA vs the ugly side of Islam.
I haven't seen AQ threaten Christianity..
It's about world dominace, they want to take over the ME and rule in the name of Islam and the only real superpower is in blocking their way.
Posted by: Ren at August 05, 2005 06:19 AM (a9tRx)
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Mr. Morimoto: I am not a Christian. However, I still think Naveed's mother mated with a pig. So you understand this is not a religious thing.
As far as Japans unannounced attack on the United States. Stupid! They probably could have made some sort of deal had they not become best friends with Hitler. As things go. Japan came out allright. Don't you agree? I am certain Japan appreciates Americas actions after their unconditional surrender.
You need to rethink the simularity between Islam and Christianity.
There is no simularity. Islam is based on hatred, war, jealousy and inferiority. Perhaps, race (I'm personally sure of that) others will disagree. Christianity has outgrown its barbarism of 1000 years ago. Islam hasn't as yet come that far. All in all Islam is a backward religion practised by backward people. They are a danger to all others. They continue to exist because the west (including Japan) is civilized and refuses admit to the solution. The only solution that will bring peace to the world.
A terrible thing happened to two cities in Japan 60 years ago. However, we must admit, it brought about peace. In a hurry.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 05, 2005 08:23 PM (CBNGy)
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The war between Christianity and Islam has been going on long before America came along, even in more modern days. A more resent example would be the civil war that occurred in Lebanon between Christian Arabs and Muslim Arabs.
Greyrooster, no offense but I think you are the only one here that completely misunderstood my posts.
I assure you that I never suggested of there being a general similarity between Islam and Christianity, which is clearly what u are implying. Yes, Christianity is completely different from Islam, but there are some specific things we have in common. This is a fact. Have u studied both the Bible and Koran?
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 06, 2005 03:14 AM (8KBv8)
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Greyrooster, about my comment on WW2, the only point I was trying to make (in response to Jesters statement) is that Japan was not a threat to the sovereignty of the US as Germany was. I took no sides, I was just getting the facts strait. I did not make any statement glorifying JapanÂ’s conquest, but u seem set on attacking any Japanese that even mentions the war. What are you so paranoid about? The Fat Man and Little Boy?
I donÂ’t believe I said anything that is deserving of being slapped with Justifications of the Atomic bombings. What does that have to do with my comment in the first place. Convince someone else, because I am from Saga City, which was the original target for the second atomic bomb. As u see, my existence was on the line.
I think it is interesting to mention that Nagasaki, of the second bombing, is where most of the countrie's Christians were concentrated. This obviously hindered the spread of Christianity in Japan, because they (Japanese Christians) were wiped out. ThatÂ’s something else the bombs brought about besides fast food peace. Also, The city of Nagasaki was divided in two by a mountain, with one side being made up of residential districts and the other side by business districts. Which side do you think was bombed? Lets just say that the working men had no wives and kids to come home to.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 06, 2005 03:20 AM (8KBv8)
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I knew Bosko, i served with him,all six of those men, i am sick and can't sleep at night, just like Naveed these cowards can't face there enemies they have to run and hide like little kids..their day is coming and they will feel the raith and wish their idiotic God, that they claim they fight for, was here to save em all, burn in hell.....and you will
Posted by: Usmcsniper at August 06, 2005 11:51 AM (XiOqK)
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Mr. Morimoto. I believe you are the one who misunderstood my posting. Anyway, my intention was not to be accusative. So my apology may be in order. Paranoid? Only about the muslim threat to world piece. The bombing of Japan?. I agree with it. Japanese civilians may have been killed, but better them than our soldiers who would have had to invade. I lost my father in that war. I was two. People on this side of the ocean suffered to. All accounts seem to think the Japanese were the only ones who suffered. Not so. Think about all the people slaughtered by the Japanese Military machine.
What bothers me at times is that I do not hate the Japanese. I guess because I respect bravery. The Japanese did fight with courage. On the other hand, they started the damn war with a sneak attack on America. No bravery there. Attacking sleeping men on a Sunday morning. Christians in Nagasaki? Why should I care about that? There were Christians in England, Italy, Mexico, Spain, France, Germany, etc. etc. We kicked their asses. Why would Christians in Japan be any different? Now who is paranoid? Bravery? The Bataan death march? Nanking? Korea? I really need to stop thinking about this subject.
I might change my mind.
besides I drink too much. Again, my intention was not to offend. Two sides to every story huh! I always take America's side. Why? Simple. I am an American.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 06, 2005 07:58 PM (CBNGy)
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Greyrooster, I did not say u were being accusative but that u were defensive for no reason , but u clearly did speak as if I was taking sides with Japan, which I was not. That is called accusative. Jester suggested Japan was a threat to AmericaÂ’s sovereignty, I pointed out it was not. That was the only thing going on there. Why were u suggesting I should be more appreciative of your country. Just because a Japanese points out a simple fact about the war does not mean he intends to palliate JapanÂ’s wartime past. I assure u, I will not palliate my nations past. I suggest u save your energy for when a nasty Japanese comes along to do exactly that, because I know they are out there, but I am not one of them.
I guessed u would not care about Japanese Christians because u are not Christian, I just though it was an interesting part of history, and since U mentioned the atomic bombs (for God knows why,) I thought I would mention it. Did u know that about Nagasaki? Was it not interesting? U care about America because u are American, I care about Christians because I am Christians, lets leave it at that. I u feel that saving American lives is important, I will not contest that my friend, but do not be so cold hearted towards my Christian breathers and sisters around the world by saying “We kicked their asses.” I am sure there is a less harsh way to say it.
Any worldly “good” that a nation does will not draw praise from me, and any evil that a nation commits will not surprise me, nor will the people who defend or glorify their country for the sake of nationalism. This is because I love God, not my country, nor any nation for that matter.
If u thin I love Japan, u are dead wrong. It was not too long ago that we Japanese Christians were being slaughtered by the Idolaters of Japan. So my loyal American, If u want to take sides thatÂ’s fine, but get this strait, the only side I have is my religion. All nations (my nation and yours) will come to an end, but god is forever. World peace is not biblically possible. True Christians wait for the death of this world and the lords coming with eagerness.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 06, 2005 10:53 PM (8KBv8)
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I must apologize for spamming this post with topics off subject. This post should be reserved for the sympathy of the dead soldiers, and attacking Islam‘s twisted ideology. RIP.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 07, 2005 04:09 AM (8KBv8)
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Enough said, as the only religion I attack is Islam. Which I feel is more than a religion.
One mention concerning Nagasaki. The army annouced that it had missed its target by several miles immediately after the attack.
So much for insenuation that we purposely bombed civilians instead of industry. Bombing in those days was not an exact science.
The reason I mentioned atomic bomb was that it ended the war. Brought about peace. Stopped the torture and killing in Asia. Saved American lives and started the road to reconstruction and wealth for Japan. The association is perhaps that it will be the only solution to the present situation with the Islamofacists.
The mentioning of Japan attacked us first. Americans were dying. More Americans would continue to die if the war was not ended quickly. The decision to bomb Japan was based on saving lives. Particularly American lives. IT WORKED. The slaughter ended a few days later.
Now in comparisome: Islam attacked us first. Americans are dying. More Americans will continue to die if the war is not ended quickly.
The solution: It worked once against a much braver enemy. Why not twice?
Please do not feel that I mentioned Japan because it is Japan. Japan is the only country that we ever nuked so I had no other example.
Jester's comment: Japan was not a threat to America's sovereignity? Who were those guys running all over the Aleute Islands with the little rising sun flags. What was their purpose? Vacation?
Kicking ass is an American expression. When someone starts trouble with us we kick his ass.
I realize some of you Christians are waiting for the death of this world. I prefer to spend my time making it a better, safer place. To do that, those like me must sometimes fight against religions.
Have I studied the Bible? Yes, as a young man I was deeply involved in the Catholic Church. Totally brainwashed by the Franciscan nuns. Vietnam brought me to my senses.
Study the Koran: Picked it up and soon put in down. Garbage. Hateful garbage, nothing more.
Time to feed the animals. Have a nice day.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 07, 2005 09:26 AM (CBNGy)
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If you noticed, I was trying to refrain from debating the Atomic bombings with u by letting u have the last word on the subject, but u continue to provoke me by further justifications. I already expressed that I will not contest your opinion if u believed it was important in saving American lives.
U still gave no sensible reason of why u mentioned the bombings in the first place. The bombs have nothing to do with anything anyone was talking about. Considering how controversial the subject is, I think it was very rude of u to justify the bombings out of the blue to a Japanese that has not even said anything about it, especially knowing that most Japanese people would be offended by it. If u wanted to debate the subject, u should have gone to a forum where people are talking about it.
I doubt I should even bother debating the subject with a guy thatÂ’s still caught up in a 60 year-old propaganda. You still present all the same justifications that was presented by Truman after the bombing. A lot more is known about the bombings now, thanks to declassified US documents, and it only makes the bombing more difficult to defend. So I suggest u drop the matter with me now, but if u want to debate, go ahead, take another punch at it. U started this after all.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 07, 2005 10:32 PM (8KBv8)
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On second thought, I will be away on a trip so I will not be able to debate anyway. So whatever you say, I will not be able to respond to it. So if your going to take a bash at me, I suggest u tone it down a bit, If u have any honor in u.
Posted by: Kaoru Morimoto at August 07, 2005 10:53 PM (8KBv8)
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Mr. Morimoto: "I think it is interesting to mention that Nagasaki, of the second bombing, is where most of the countrie's (sic) Christians were concentrated."
Ever read Solange Hertz? She makes mention of this fact and finds deep significance in it. Yes, we Christians wait for the New World, but we still have to keep working at improving this world, right?
Peace to you.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 08, 2005 09:32 AM (x+5JB)
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Yea. Turns out they have internet even in the middle of no where. Dial-up but oh well.
"Japan was not a threat to America's sovereignity? Who were those guys running all over the Aleute Islands with the little rising sun flags. What was their purpose? Vacation?"
Yeah, It can get crazy with thoes little flags. But thats a threat to Americas Imperialism, not sovereignity, unless the former Native American lands isn't big enough for u
Posted by: Morimoto at August 09, 2005 01:58 PM (clzIx)
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This is just silly, Muslums, Christians, who's right, who's wrong. Well if you still believe in any of these outdated religons your a dreamy eyed fool. The Bible, Tora, Koran, are all storybooks. It makes about as much sence to believe in any of this crap as worshipping Harry Potter books. To justify killing with for these beliefs is just immature. Grow up, take responsibilty for your actions, think for yourself stop folowing the idiots guides to life. The war is about money for our American leaders, and that's the bottom line. The Administration has used it to push through so many agendas and laws. The war is about religion for the Muslums fighting it. It has given a new face to Jihad. If the whole world exploded today you all would be right and wrong.
I must thank every one spouting off there own version of what's right. You ammuse me!
Posted by: Laughing out loud at September 07, 2005 05:43 PM (9lXGR)
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August 01, 2005
The Perfect Answer To IslamoFascism
While putzing around the blogosphere I found this image that screamed out at me as the weapon of choice for terror cells and the neighborhoods that support them.

(image from Time Hath Found Us)
It might be a little bit of overkill (pun intended), but I think it would only take one or two before we'd see some mosques shut down in a heart beat(or over the lack of one).
If you fund a terrorist, you are a terrorist(and you get a MOAB), if you hide a terrorist, you are a terrorist (and you get a MOAB), if you offer assistance of any kind to a terrorist, you are a terrorist (and you get a MOAB), and if you are a terrorist, you get two MOABS, one for your immediate location, and one for your country of origin.
I know, it's getting a little late for me too! I'm just mad as hell and I'm sick and tired of hearing the word Islam and everything about it.
A great big hat tip to Tom Spence at Time Hath Found Us, who has his own message for the image.
Cross posted by Hyscience
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So London gets a MOAB dropped on it? Thanks a lot.
Posted by: Ron Atkinson at August 01, 2005 11:30 PM (Uitib)
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Every single Hamas and Hezbollah funeral parade should have one.
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If your wife has to cover her face to take out the trash because you won't get off your fat ass while she picks through the leftoevers. You deserve a MOAB.
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July 31, 2005
While The MSM Brings Us Body Bags, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, And How The Word Hates Us - They Ignore What's Right With America And The Things That "Make Us Proud"
Can anyone please explain to me why the AP and CBS rush to bring us a
phony fatwah story along with the image below on the right of a Muslim and a Crescent defaming our national symbol, but totally ignore the story behind the man and the image below on the left?

(Image on left is the Navy Cross, via Bob Lonsberry and Mary Jones. The disgusting image on the right that defames our nation's flag and in effect, symbolizes an Islamic takeover of America, is from the AP and CBS)
Had I not received an email about this I wouldn't have known about it either.
"The odd fact about the American media in this war is that it's not covering the American military. The most plugged-in nation in the world is receiving virtually no true information about what its' warriors are doing." If it doesn't undermine the war effort and our nation's effort to keep Islamofascists from blowing us up and replacing every church and synagogue in America and Europe with a mosque, the press doesn't report it.
For those of you who might not know, the man on the left in the image below is the Commandant of the Marine Corps, and he is proud to know the man on the right.

Meet Brian Chontosh, the man on the right; Churchville-Chili Central School Class of 1991, proud graduate of the Rochester Institute of Technology, husband and about-to-be father, First lieutenant (now Captain) in the United States Marine Corps, and a genuine hero.
At 29 Palms in California Brian Chontosh was presented with the Navy Cross, the second highest award for combat bravery the United States can bestow.
And "That's a big deal." But you didn't see it on the network news that night. And all you'd have read in Brian's hometown newspaper is two paragraphs of nothing.
All we get from the likes of the AP, CBS, and most of the MSM is a "non-stop feed of gloom and doom," but we get nothing about our progress in Iraq and on the War on Terror, and worst of all, we don't hear about our American heroes, the guys fighting and dying in the crotch of the world so all of us can continue on with our lives and the MSM can continue it's anti-military, anti-administration, anti-American, ostrich-imitating rants.
As Bob Lonsberry writes in the tribute to Capt Chontosh, "Accounts of American valor are dismissed by the press as propaganda, yet accounts of American difficulties are heralded as objectivity. It makes you wonder if the role of the media is to inform or to depress - to report or to deride. To tell the truth, or to feed us lies."
And as for our incredibly brave GIs who honorably do their duty, the ones "our grandparents would have carried on their shoulders down Fifth Avenue," well, we never hear anything from the media about them, and because of the MSM's failure to report what's right with our country, guys like Capt Brian Chontosh go completely ignored.
It was a year ago on the march into Baghdad. Brian Chontosh was a platoon leader rolling up Highway 1 in a humvee. When all hell broke loose.
Ambush city.
The young Marines were being cut to ribbons. Mortars, machine guns, rocket propelled grenades.
And the kid out of Churchville was in charge. It was do or die and it was up to him.
Thanks to journalist and broadcaster Bob Lonsberry and Mary Jones,
you can learn all about how Capt Brian Chontosh won the Navy Cross in this beautiful tribute.
Hat tip with extra thanks to Red Falcon at The Steiner Aid, who posted on this story back on June 28.
Cross posted by Hyscience
Semper Fi! From one Marine to another.
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I haven't seen/heard anything about this, aside from Lonsberry, locally here in Rochester. I could be wrong; but if the local media has mentioned it, it got by me.
Disgusting that they ignore things like this.
Posted by: BorgQueen at July 31, 2005 05:33 PM (AxlwF)
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The media is truly the enemy!
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 31, 2005 06:12 PM (DDXXI)
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The people have spoken and Downing Street Memo accepts majority rule. DSM now leaves Jawa Report permanently per your wishes.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 31, 2005 06:17 PM (ScqM8)
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Don't be a little pussy, DSM. You leave when you get banned.
Posted by: Carlos at July 31, 2005 07:17 PM (8e/V4)
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Gung Ho! Get some Jarhead! Killed 20 in one battle. Never hear that on the MSM/DNC. All they want to have on is Ted "Quagmire" or Dick NAZI.
The Navy Cross is an extraordinary honor.
Gung Hooooooooo!
an old exJarhead.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 31, 2005 07:39 PM (Z6yVb)
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Your post is exactly why so many Americans are finding, reading and sharing the "real news" that blogs post and why the MSM is losing credibility more and more......
Thank you for sharing this true American with us. Keep up thegood work.
Cheryl
Posted by: Cheryl at July 31, 2005 09:40 PM (4r1wG)
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For excellent reportage on the war go to http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/ . This guy is totally independent, went over to Iraq on his own to specifically cover the war. He is embedded with the 24 and writes with a wonderful style. It tells of what the soldiers do, but by a non-soldier.
Posted by: Bill at July 31, 2005 10:12 PM (WwtVa)
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Of course the MSM lies. For the reality:
http://tinyurl.com/azwqe
Posted by: TheRidge at August 01, 2005 01:41 AM (RaZ4B)
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Where can you find the link for the context in which the American flag with the symbol of the moon god on the blue background? I looked around AP and CBS and couldn't find it.
Posted by: CDR Salamander at August 01, 2005 07:37 AM (PJ4Iq)
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DSM will surely return. He can't find anyone in lefty blogland to give him any passionate stimulation of his grey matter. Ha!
Hope to see you soon, my Australia friend. See, I've changed, and the only thing I want is for you to come back without the personal attacks and animosity.
Posted by: jesusland joe at August 01, 2005 09:30 AM (DDXXI)
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Hyscience, it's really sad that this story didn't get broader play.
Kyer, otoh, had up the Lonsberry tribute about a week or so ago, which I linked as well - Chontosh is amazing. When will Nightline, 60 Minutes or some other news magazine talk about the heroes who dedicate their lives to the service?
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July 30, 2005
An Open Letter To CAIR
So you
managed to get Mr. Graham fired from his talk radio job.
Whoop de doo dah.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Despite your pathetic attempts, one simple fact remains.
You are the followers of the bloodiest "religion" ever to befoul planet Earth. Your holy book reads more like H.P. Lovecraft than anything else.
The prophet you exalt, Mohammed (Pig blood be upon his name) was a pedophile. He married, and had sex with, a 9 year old girl. Your prophet, Mohammed (Dog poop be upon his name) was also a pimp. Bet you didn't think that we'd find out what muta'a was, did you? Your prophet, Mohammed, when he was proselytizing (something Christians are executed for in your home countries) was considered a nutcase in his time.
This from my private email from one who knows:
When Muhammad
first got "touched" by Gabriel and was walking around
Mecca denigrating everyone's religion in Allah's name
(that's how Islam has been since the beginning), the
Meccan polytheists would diss him by calling him
"mudhammam," a play on his name which means
"reprobate, miscreant, lowlife," etc. Nice, huh? I
learned that in his biography (written 150± years
after his death), "Sirat Rasul Allah," by Ibn Ishaq
(ed. Ibn Hisham). Highly recommended book.
You don't have a religion, CAIR, you have a death cult. You don't like it? Tough shit. You had Yahweh, Christ, and even Buddha. You chose to follow Mohammed (gratuitous phlegm be upon him).
Bring it on, bitches, you'll still lose.
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Please forgive the subject change.
I see lights coming up the road, must be my fishing buddies. We will be leaving for Virgina Tourament in a few minutes. 1000 miles hauling the boat and all the excess gear everyone can never learn to leave at home. The Greyrooster and Charlie will return in 10 days. Wishing a good week to all lovers of this great nation.
I must say it has been so pleasant the last few days that maybe I will strart inviteing the patriots down for some serious fishing trips on me. Going to start entering the Kingfishing Touraments this year so will need plenty of new hands.
Luck to all and watch our enemies while I am gone. If anyone wishing to contact me the number is 6015901104. We have a satellite on the boat so # will ring there. How's that, Jerk ass Downing Street Moron.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 30, 2005 04:53 AM (CBNGy)
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hey rooster, where areyou going out of? I have been really wanting to get back down to Ocracoke...its tuna time!
Posted by: Mr. K at July 30, 2005 06:43 AM (VudXl)
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Get some Doc! Fu-- 'em all! Religion of peace - my a-s!
Rooster going dinky dao again.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at July 30, 2005 08:31 AM (Z6yVb)
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Why do we even allow organizations like this to exist?
Posted by: Jay at July 30, 2005 10:33 AM (BKqRl)
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It still boggles my mind, that with all the evidence of the problems Islam causes as it encroaches into places of differing religion, including Indonesia, Thailand and Sudan that anyone pointing it out would be fired, it's not like statistics, nor history are on that persons side.
For everyone that keeps blaming American policies for Islam aggression world-wide (I just saw a bunch of them on imdb.com debating "Over There") you have to wonder why then secular Governments that are not involved in any of the current wars are at threat from Islam, including most of Asia where Islamist groups attempt to over throw the Government in order to establish a Caliphate (good example Malaysia)
They don't want to return to the 7th century because they hate technology, it's because at that time Islam conquered and dominated countries and established their Islamic rule over everything they touched.
Posted by: dave at July 30, 2005 12:06 PM (DO6vD)
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Islam has destroyed,attacked and crippled more civilizations and cultures than any other religion could ever have....Persia, Egypt, Byzantium{Eastern Roman Empire} India,North Africa, Sudan, Phillipines, Malaysia and many others and it continues on to this day....Bush and/or America didnt start it all as America wasnt around 1400 years ago when Islam started on its orgy of desruction, rape,pillage and mass murder...oil wasnt behind it than as now one new it was even there so what was Islams excuse 1400 years ago to do what it still does today????.....islam in the Middle Ages was probally the only time that it was generally peacefull and was involved in what passed as technology back than...yes, Islam expanded on mathmatics and astronomy{first pushed to the fore by such great civilizations as the Greeks and the Persians} some medicines but suddenly seemed to freeze in time and hasnt made any usefull advances or discoveries since...now the Western world is in the 21st century while almost all of the Middle East is still stuck in the 14th century and they sure do act like it and yet for some reason blame it all on the West...yes, the Middle Ages west was stuck in its backwards ways because of many church doctrines....world was flat, earth was the center of the solar system, sun revolved around the earth and such nonsence....but thanks to many famous and inteligent men, the west was able to more into the age of enlightment, The Rennasiance, and has been going ever since...Islam put its religion on the backburners and it advanced while the west was stuck in the Dark Ages, now the worm has turned, and Islam has caused all of the Middle east to be in its dark ages all because the religion of the Middle east is suddenly all important and dammned be advancement...and they blame the West for their own doings and refuse to admit and see why they are backwards.....some day they might wake up by how long will that take and is the West able to wait along for how ever long while Islam restarts its destructive ways
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 12:33 PM (9gFP6)
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Mad Dog, may the fatwa of the CAIR descend gently upon you. Ha, they know you want a fatwa and they won't dish it out, the bastards!
I want me one of those fatwas too. How can you get one? I'm surprised the idiot imams haven't issued a fatwa on all us Americans. Oh yeah, OBL did issue a fatwa to kill all Americans. That's good enough for me, Mad Dog. I think we ought to issue a Crusade against them. Heh!
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 30, 2005 02:06 PM (DDXXI)
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Seriously, if you get a fatwa before me I'm never speaking to you again.
Posted by: Rusty at July 30, 2005 02:11 PM (eawoe)
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Islam needs to have Total War declared against it...maybe that will get their attention and they will take the West seriously....CAIR are just following Sun Tzu's book "The Art of WAr"...after all deception is a part of war and Islam stays alive this day by deception or it would have been obliterated decades ago
Posted by: THANOS35 at July 30, 2005 02:42 PM (9gFP6)
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Eh, I'd settle for "docile pupil of a monkey monk."
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at July 30, 2005 02:48 PM (Kr6/f)
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Just to push the issue home that Jihad is the wrong way to go:
Signs that ALLAH is not on your side:
http://fredfryinternational.blogspot.com/2005/07/signs-that-allah-god-is-not-on-your.html
Posted by: Fred Fry at July 30, 2005 03:11 PM (RPY7Q)
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Islam has been the religion of hate and murder for 1,100 years. It still is. When the MSM/DNC calls it the "religion of peace" they are doing their best Big Brother act. (see Orwell). It is a lie. It has been a lie since the first MSM America hater said it.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at July 30, 2005 04:08 PM (LbyCD)
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July 29, 2005
Brother Against Brother
Chapter Eight of 'Brother Against Brother' is up at Euphoric Reality. I am not just posting their links because they purchased an ad or because I am friends with both writers, but the story is intriguing.
A quick summation is in order for those just tuning in. A team of special forces in Vietnam fought off an insurmountable number of NVA while the base was hesitating to bring in reinforcements. The men who survived though have been attacked by a fellow Vietnam Veteran who has accused the group of war crimes. The authors of Euphoric Reality, who were first contacted by the accusers, have painstakingly done their research into this story and found out the accusers have no leg to stand on.
The entire 'Brother Against Brother' episode is a lesson in why we should honor our heroes and why we as critical-thinking adults should look past what is told to us. Do yourself a favor and start from Chapter One if you have not done so already.
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What needs to be remembered here it that even the great Marine Corps has a few social outcasts that can never be one of the brotherhood. So they turn into crybaby, little finks that try to get there 15 minutes by lying on others braver than they.
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Trouble Brewing
From
Mehr News (Iran) Iran announces readiness to resume nuclear activities: source
TEHRAN, July 27 (MNA) -- In a formal letter to International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director General Mohamed ElBaradei, Iran has announced that it is prepared to resume nuclear activities at some nuclear centers in the next few days, a European diplomat said in Vienna on Wednesday.
From the
Associated Press AP: Iran achieves solid fuel technology
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran said for the first time Wednesday it has fully developed solid-fuel technology in producing missiles, a major breakthrough that increases the accuracy of missiles hitting targets.
The Shahab-3, with a range of 810 miles to more than 1,200 miles, is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and reaching Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East.
We may be witnessing the last days of Iran as a habitable region. A nuclear strike on US troops would likely startle even Al Franken into discovering his dormant sense of patriotism (remember the "red hot poker"?). There's little doubt that the backward mullahs running Iran would be insane enough to attack our troops. It's hard to imagine that President Bush could long resist the intense political pressure following such a strike to reduce Iran to a radioactive wasteland.
Cross-posted at The Dread Pundit Bluto.
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Being "capable" of striking U.S. forces doesn't really imply that some kind of threat is imminent. Soviet forces (yes, those "crazy" Soviets no one ever trusted) had nukes capable of reaching your backyard swingset, but obviously them having it doesn't mean shit. Hell, India and Pakistan have nukes and they've hated each other for decades, but I don't see any nuclear winters over either of their countries.
While I'm always up for a little scare-mongering, this is a little over the top.
Posted by: Venom at July 27, 2005 01:00 PM (dbxVM)
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As unlikely as it may sound, Venom may be right. While I'm certain that there are elements within the mullahcracy that would love to see our troops nuked, there are larger elements within the regime that understand what such a strike would mean. Iran is seeking the nuke because nukes are the great equalizer of the modern era. Further, they have always wished to be a regional powerhouse. But just because Iran wouldn't use nukes does not mean that they should be stopped from having them. This would dramatically shift power relations in the region and considerably weaken US influence.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at July 27, 2005 01:20 PM (lH1L8)
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>>>Soviet forces (yes, those "crazy" Soviets no one ever trusted) had nukes capable of reaching your backyard swingset, but obviously them having it doesn't mean shit.
Venom,
there's only one problem with your analysis-- it's true we never trusted the Soviets, but nobody has ever considered them "crazy". I wish the same could be said about the mullahs. I hope that you're right that the mullahs are no more crazy than the Paki generals are.
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 01:23 PM (8e/V4)
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OK, I think there is consensus that it's unlikely Iran would attack American troops, can the same be said for them not attempting first strike on Israel?
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 01:35 PM (DO6vD)
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Yes. As much as they hate Israel, they know what would happen if they tried something like this.
You're all missing the biggest point about Iran having nuclear weaponry. It's not about who Iran would attack; rather, it's with whom they'd share that technology. Dealing with a hardcase like Iran is hard enough. Imagine dealing with a dozen that hate America as much as the next.
Control through fear would be their bigger accomplishment, not through ill-thought nuclear strikes.
Posted by: Venom at July 27, 2005 01:39 PM (dbxVM)
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>>>It's not about who Iran would attack; rather, it's with whom they'd share that technology.
Venom,
I was just thinking the same thing. When we or the Israelis get hit with a nuke, we won't know where those nukes orginally came from.
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 01:47 PM (8e/V4)
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You're right, Venom, what was I thinking? Of course there's no reason to be apprehensive simply because a nation controlled by
vicious, ignorant religious fanatics may soon acquire
nuclear weapons and missile technology. It's not as if
these exact same people would do something foolish like, oh, I don't know,
violate every tenet of international law by invading an embassy and kidnapping the diplomats.
Assclown.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 27, 2005 01:48 PM (RHG+K)
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Alright, the "Assclown" was gratuitous, but in my defenese, I spent a couple hours last night watching Sam Kinnison clips with my son.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 27, 2005 01:50 PM (RHG+K)
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No, YOU're right, Bluto. What was *I* thinking? Invading an embassy, and holding the power to sow destruction and receive likewise in an instant are SO similar! Tell us what country you're from that apples and oranges seem so similar to you. There's a BIG leap to having a few thousand students invade an embassy, and deciding by way of action to remove your country from the map.
And please, they've had nuclear technology for years. You act as if they've suddenly stumbled upon the notion that an atom can actually be split. The articles you post talk more about the accuracy of their missles (read: they already had them). They're not nuclear neophytes.
Posted by: Venom at July 27, 2005 02:00 PM (dbxVM)
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I'm not sure the claim about not knowing where a Nuclear weapon came from is valid, not only do technician leave their own technique signatures, like forensics from conventional explosives, but Iran is mining it's own Uranium and as they already have samples of it, not to mention some of the techniques they use to enrich it, e.g centrifuge, laser separation and enrichment via hard water plants is not exactly technology that the taliban had.
it shouldn't be to hard to track down.
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 02:24 PM (DO6vD)
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Allah will protect them in their struggle to carry the jihad to the infidels. Allah will assure that the faithful are not harmed by the wickedness of the kafir.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at July 27, 2005 02:24 PM (RHG+K)
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dave,
are you saying a nuclear blast has a signature than can be traced back to a particular nuclear facility in a particular country?
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 02:47 PM (8e/V4)
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A bunch of silly booga booga!
Nervous Nellies are going to ruin this world for us all.
Posted by: greg at July 27, 2005 03:17 PM (/+dAV)
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>>>Nervous Nellies are going to ruin this world for us all.
That's precisely the attitude that got us into the current predicament with N. Korea.
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 03:26 PM (8e/V4)
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That's what Dave is saying, Carlos. I am not familiar with any technology that presently exists that would do just that. That is a new one on me.
That said, my fear has always been that Iran would share nuclear technology and help terrorists with a bomb. I am of the opinion that Iran is stupid enough to share the technology but not smart enough to prevent its use, if that makes sense.
Venom seems to think that Iran will act in a rational manner. I hope for the sake of the World that he is right, and he may be. But I also know that there are some Islamists who would like to return the World to the 7th Century Califate. What better way than to set off a nuclear exchange. Just saying.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 03:29 PM (DDXXI)
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Rusty, it's getting pretty annoying for Greg to keep interjecting his nonsense into the otherwise intelligent posts.
Greg, the men in the white suits are coming to get you. You better hurry and get back over to the asylum at Indymedia. I think your buddy DSM is waiting for you. I'm sure you two boys have something you need to discuss.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 03:38 PM (DDXXI)
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Yep, that is exactly what I am saying:
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 04:00 PM (DO6vD)
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the reason you're not familiar with the technology is that it is
restricted.
http://www.tonyrogers.com/news/fallout_studies.htm
If it is published science, it is easy to evade the technique, to ensure it is not fingerprinted.
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 04:08 PM (DO6vD)
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I will certainly bow to Dave on this, as I really don't know. But I wonder if he knows about it, then why don't the Iranians? And if it is easy to evade, why can't the Iranians just evade it, or worse yet, make it look like someone else did it? Just a thought.
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 04:23 PM (DDXXI)
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Hey Seuss Lander,
Do you really think your posts are intelligent? You're an illiterate imbecile!
Posted by: Menezes' Ghost at July 27, 2005 04:32 PM (/+dAV)
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It's Greg! Are you drunk, Greg, or have you been smoking that dope again? Better watch out, Greg, Osama's after you. I think you better spend your time trying to figure out how you're going to make it without your crack. I know, it's a bummer for you Greg, but we'll be praying for you. HeHe!
Posted by: jesusland joe at July 27, 2005 04:39 PM (DDXXI)
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LEAVE MY CHILD ALONE!
Opt out of the PentagonÂ’s illegal database here:
http://www.leavemychildalone.org/index.cfm?event=showContent&contentid=37
Opt your children out of your schoolÂ’s military recruitment lists here (Both Opt Outs are necessary):
http://www.leavemychildalone.org/index.cfm?event=showContent&contentid=13
Posted by: Menezes' Ghost at July 27, 2005 04:40 PM (/+dAV)
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Menezes:
Did I miss something, does Iran's nuclear program have something to do with lefty websites?
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 04:47 PM (DO6vD)
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Dave, the new idiot calling himself Memezes' Ghost is none other than the old idiot Greg. He is nothing more or less than an Indymedia troll.
He is like a child. He doesn't work or do anything productive, he just trolls websites trying to make people think he has a brain. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't.
Greg, we're going to get the government to cut out your welfare check. Then you'll have to post from a library, and the Patriot Act is sure to snare you. Now that would be rich! HaHa~
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is it Greg? I'm not sure myself.
What is it with sites like www.leavemychildalone.org, are lefties so scared they no longer trust their children to make decisions? They buy them violent video games, and DVD's but are terrified their children might choose the miltary for a career? Isn't that their child's choice to make?
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 05:34 PM (DO6vD)
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To everyone but Gayrooster, please accept this apology for getting off the topic. I just need to reply to Chicken Little brain.
YBP,
Tell me how I do. I am trying to reform and became a better blogger such as yourself. You have to remember, that this is a response to g{r}ayrooster, which trying to be civilized to is really asking to much of everyone, but I am going to try.
Mr. Rooster,
Concerning your post from the Festival of the Forgotten Fatwas on July 18, I will have you know that it was not I who posted the fable boat post. Several reasons for this is:
One: I truly believe that you being an occupant of one of MississippiÂ’s State run facility, I know you are not allowed to have boats, cars or any other vehicles.
Two: Since you are an occupant of MississippiÂ’s State run facility, I know you are not allowed out except as forced team member to help beautify Mississippi.
Three: I have only ever posted stuff as “Butch” on this blog. And why would I wish to debase myself claiming to be Racial, homicidal, ignorant, Klan participating volunteered same sex partner of Bubba. I am married to a beautiful 22 year old Blonde Ukrainian bomb shell with a gorgeous face, and a fantastic body, so why would I be jealous of an incarcerated “jigaboo” lover like you.
Four: The only thing I will grant you, is that you may be financially better off then myself, due to the fact that the State run facility you currently are residing at uses cigarettes instead of U.S. Dollars as currency. Since I do not smoke and do not own any of the number one litter, then yes, you can consider yourself richer than me.
Five: I can also see now why you are so concerned about ones parentage. Since you are nothing in and of yourself, you have to define your pitiful existence by that of your mother and father. Even if my mother, who was an OR nurse for the VA in Dallas for 28 years, or my father, who served 29 years in the Air Force, were not my parents, and I was a “Bastard” as you fantasies about, I would be 1 million times worth more that your sorry excuse. The only redeeming quality I have seen on this blog about you so far is that
you have a patriotic son. But once again, that is defining your worth from your son and not from you. So you can take this for what it is worth.
Six: The post about the boat actually made you sound like a likable fellow. Inviting
people on to your boat and going fishing, sound like a very enjoyable person was issuing the invite. I am sure the only place you might want to invite some to is maybe a cross burning, that is if the State Officials would allow you out.
Seven: If I ever did try to pretend to be you, I would login as your true self, Chicken little brain or fowl mouth gayrooster. (Which I will not do.)
So in closing you individual with as much brain as you login, who really cares if always hit back, you hit like a two year old girl. As far as winning, what is there to win. This is not “Survivor” or “Who wants to be a millionaire.” As for my commenting on our government and our President, I have earned the right. I have served my country, I vote
in the elections, and I allow fowl mouth bigots to spew trash from their lips because that
is the American way. As for who is cowardly, which is worse, one who posts under someone else name (which I have never did), or one who goes out in white sheets and pillow cases to hide their faces?
And now I will return you to your previous blogs. Thank you.
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dave,
if you know about it then so do the Iranians. They will simply take measures to conceal their nuke signatures and pass it on to terrorists to blow up in our cities.
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 05:37 PM (8e/V4)
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Carlos:
I'm sorry I gave you an impression that I know the
methods used to identify the forensic evidence inside Nuclear fallout,
I do not know the specifics of the analysis, the article does not mention specifics either, only how the data is collected, and points to analysis of radioactive particles I would assume it is classified data.
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 05:55 PM (DO6vD)
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dave,
I didn't say you know the methods, I said you know
about it. So do the Iranians, presumably.
Posted by: Carlos at July 27, 2005 05:57 PM (8e/V4)
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well doesn't the whole issue of faking evidence belie the belief these guys are so batshit they'd launch a preemptive attack against the 'great satan' or 'little satan'?
if they would do that, and are as crazy as we're lead to believe, I'm sure they'd be the first to take credit, no?
They might purchase fissile material from another location, but I am not sure that all the forensic science involved is just tracing the origin of the material, they could most likely trace the way a device was manufactured too.
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 06:11 PM (DO6vD)
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Nuking Iran.. are you INSANE??!!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 27, 2005 07:58 PM (ScqM8)
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Perhaps we should just take what the Nazis in turbans themselves have said:
TEHRAN 14 Dec. 2001
One of IranÂ’s most influential ruling clerics called friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapons against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".
Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 27, 2005 08:24 PM (IpG/2)
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Oh! So does this "cleric" have his finger on the button? because from here it sounds like rhetoric if he doesn't.
Posted by: dave at July 27, 2005 08:27 PM (DO6vD)
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I don't particularly think Iran would be so completely suicidal as to launch a nuclear strike on the United States our forces in Iraq, or Israel in the capacity as a State actor. That being said, I have no doubt they would pass a nuclear device (assuming they have the technological wherewithal to put together a minaturized nuke, or more likely, a "stolen" one from the former Soviet arsena)l into the hands of Hezbollah, Hamas, IJ, etc. If they believed it couldn't be traced back to them. The Mad Mullahs are devious and evil but not suicidal (so far)
Posted by: disgruntledinca at July 27, 2005 09:30 PM (IpG/2)
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Butch: You continue your stupidity and lies. You are so full of bullshit it drips out your ears. By the way last time you posted your father was in the military for 24 years. No mans memory is good enough to make him a good liar. And you are a liar with a sorry momory. You started the name calling. Quit crying you dumb assed, stupid liberal prick. And quit lying if you wish any respect. And those of us fortunate to have a few bucks didn't get it from screwing the likes of you. How can you get something from those who have nothing?
And as I said before (de govment check) self admittedly both your so called parents worked fo de govment.
You low life types wish to start shit and then cry when shit comes back your way. Fuck you. No one believes anything your liberal hate our government stupid ass says. Pieces of shit like you complain about our government but you sure accept those government checks. My advice for your black ass. Think twice before you start shit with someone. Now get back on de porch. Boy
Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 05:24 AM (CBNGy)
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Can't believe some think that the mad moolas intelligently think about the consequences of nuclear attack. These idiots actually think that allah will protect them from retaliation. Some can read that in their Quran. Why are they then developing them. We developed ours to use. And we did. We further developed them as a deterrent to the soviets. A civilized godless nation. Not one run by fanatics who believe in death and 72 virgins and all that other bullshit.
I wouldn't trust Iran because it is run by fucking nut cases who are already so old they might just consider martyrdoom because they will soon die anyway.
My problem is, I don't have an answer.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 05:32 AM (CBNGy)
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Incarcerated Rooster. If anyone is lying it is you. You are the one claiming to be a great American, but we all know you are nothing but a racist. As for memory, it is yours that is faulty. I know my father served in the Air Force for 29 years, because the booted him
out 1 year shy of retirement because he was diagnose with type 2 diabetes. Also, your memory ,(not momory as you spell it), is failing again because you are the one who started the name calling and cussing, which I see you still havenÂ’t cured. It was your
sorry lame excuse of a post calling names and berating anonymous that started this feud.
And I do admit proudly that both my parents work for our government. Are you saying to do so is bad? But at least my parents worked for the government. Where you are be provided for by MississippiÂ’s government while you are living in their fine facility. As far as my own government checks, I will tell you exactly how many I have had. I have cashed a total of 96 government checks. 24 payroll checks while I was in the army. 48 payroll checks while I was in the Marine Corp, 23 income tax checks (the last two years
I was on the paying end,) and the one tax refund check that Bush tried to bribe people with. But now for you lets see, you get no checks because you are in the pen. Most likely while you were in the military, you were probably in the brig. Oh, donÂ’t forget, you were
probably in juvenile hall being provided for when you were a kid.
I would suggest that you think twice before name calling and cussing at some one when they were only trying to expand your mental capabilities, but I know for you, you are lucky at all to think once. So now why do you sneak back to your cell and your husband, leave the “HONEST” folks here alone to talk.
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July 25, 2005
Vietnam War Story
Euhporic Reality is rolling out an incredible story concerning Team 24 during the Vietnam War. It will be in seven parts so this is something I shall check back for. Thus far the team is deep in the jungle in Vietnam and about to be surrounded by the NVA.
This type of story is what medals are given for. Who knows, maybe these men did get medals. We have to read more to find out.
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
And speaking of the Vietnam War, Jane Fonda apparently didn't get enough publicity during her book tour. She is planning on taking a bus (running on vegetable oil) trip to oppose the war in Iraq. Perhaps we should try to get her a meeting with the enemy in Iraq too. The difference being of course our enemy today would kill her instead of allow her to hang from the weaponry.
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Here's a Nam story.. America lost in a foreign quagmire, a war being fought at a ferocious pace, draining the treasury and alienating the world, killing thousands and thousands in a desperate attempt to counter a growing nationalist insurgency. Or, is that Iraq today?
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 26, 2005 02:37 AM (ScqM8)
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Downing Street Moron: Seen any purple cows lately? Can't think of anything except one topic? Friggin nutcase. This guy is losing it.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 28, 2005 03:58 AM (CBNGy)
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Klanrooster, join HELLIBACON as a truck driver and play a real game of chance!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 28, 2005 04:01 AM (ScqM8)
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Now that Kit Jarrell and Heidi Thiess of Euphoric Reality have apparently finished their now 10-part series, which portrays us as villains, and Gary Linderer and his band of brothers as selfless heroes, we will be posting our rebuttal on the web next week. We will place a notice on Wizbang and on the Thiess/Jarrell site when it's ready and give a pointer to the web location.
The conduct of these two women in writing their "Brother Against Brother" series has demonstrated beyond a doubt that they are ill qualified to tell this story fairly. Our mistake was believing Thiess and Jarrell when they said they were "investigative journalists." Instead, they have clearly demonstrated that they ascribe to the Michael Moore school of blogging and employ the Dan Rather method of investigative journalism.
We have also learned a great lesson that you canÂ’t tell a blog by its cover. We should have requested a copy of THEIR DD214Â’s before we began dealing with them in depth after they responded to our original email and said they wanted to investigate our allegations against Gary Linderer. Their DD214Â’s would have given us a better idea just how qualified these two women actually were to do a story of this magnitude and complexity. In their zeal to support Mr. Linderer and his buddies, they have deliberately misstated important facts, omitted inconvenient facts that support our allegations against him, and have engaged in extreme hyperbole and mischaracterization, the likes of which one usually sees on extremist left-wing blogs.
Our rebuttal next week will illustrate exactly why they are ill qualified to investigate anything to do with combat operations in Vietnam, and, in our opinion, anything to do with combat operations period. We will show readers that Thiess and Jarrell have been suckered in by Gary Linderer and his very vocal group of supporters, and that they have engaged in the very same sort of disinformation tactics that Linderer and his men have employed with great success over the years.
Because of their behavior, it is apparent to us that Thiess and Jarrell are of a character that causes them to feel a deep kinship with Linderer and his men, and as they got to know Linderer and his supporters more fully, they felt a deep desire to be accepted by them. ItÂ’s easier to go with the group against the two than it is to stand with the two against the group. And, if you have to distort facts or omit damning evidence in order to accomplish that, well, the ends justify the means. The irony is that these two gullible and mendacious women have helped Gary Linderer's small group of "Vietnam fabulists" embellish the 20 November 1968 story even further, even to the laughable point of contradicting what they wrote in their books.
As weÂ’ve said over and over again, if a thousand people tell a lie, it doesnÂ’t make it the truth. Stay tunedÂ…
Posted by: Don and Annette Hall at August 05, 2005 02:25 PM (YRez4)
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HereÂ’s a good idea. Why donÂ’t you actually rebutt the story instead of going after Kit and Heidi? DoesnÂ’t that make more sense?
If your story is so accurate, how could it be ripped apart like it was? Furthermore, if it was accurate, why would threatening emails and voicemails be left?
The truth shall set you free, but the truth does not need to be pushed out through a series of lies and distortions which is evident by Don and Annette Hall. Nor does truth need to be represented by threats and accusations of property damage.
You are barking up the wrong tree in trying to leave this comment in relation to a post I've made. If you only knew. Heh.
Posted by: Chad Evans at August 05, 2005 02:40 PM (Yxk8B)
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At last we have Annette Hall’s response---posted as commentary to Chapter One and again to Chapter Ten. True to Mrs. Hall’s accustomed form, it is more a personal attack than a response to anything in Brother Against Brother. But then, what else do the Halls have at this point, beyond personal attacks? After years of trumpeting the documents they claimed to have backing their contentions about the bloody events of 20 November, 1968, and the character of Gary Linderer, all of the Hall’s “documentary evidence” has been obliterated by the many documents that the Halls somehow (willfully?) overlooked, and that Kit Jarrell and Heidi Thiess managed to find. Heidi and Kit also managed to find and interview many survivors of the battle, eyewitnesses to the battle, and many others who listened to it on military radio nets as it was happening. The Halls have absolutely none of this testimony. They never have, and never will. The Halls’ various imaginary renderings of those bloody events never had much (if any) credibility. And now they have none. What other response is available to the Halls, except for their normal personal attacks? Silence, perhaps? An apology along the lines of the one they once promised Kit and Heidi if they were proven to be wrong? Well, they’ve been proven to have been gravely and maliciously wrong, but there is no apology from the Halls. And now Annette’s silence has been broken.
Annette Hall accuses Kit and Heidi of having written a series “which portrays us as villains, and Gary Linderer and his band of brothers as selfless heroes…” Annette and Don Hall are, rightfully, not even mentioned in the chapters that deal with the 20 November, 1968, battle. But once they do appear in Brother Against Brother, once they begin their vendetta against Gary Linderer and all connected with them, they most certainly do come across as villains. Annette blames Kit and Heidi for that portrayal. But almost all of the material in Brother Against Brother that deals with the Halls is either in Don’s words or Annette’s----and almost all of this reeks with misrepresentation, slander, paranoia, viciousness, and attempted character assassination. Mrs. Hall writes, reasons, and spells much better than her husband, but when it comes to jealous bile and virulence, the two of them are in a league they share with no one else I’ve ever encountered. If the Halls come across as villains, it is because the Halls showcase their own villainy in their almost every word and action. All Kit and Heidi did was print what the Halls themselves had sent out to them and other people, but that was enough to show the Halls’ true character. As for Gary Linderer and the other men---Lurps, aviators, reaction force, and even North Vietnamese soldiers---who fought in that 20 November, 1968, battle that Annette Hall and her husband have spent years trying to portray as a fake contact: if they are “heroes” it is their actions that day that made them so, not anything Kit or Heidi wrote about them these many years later. It certainly isn’t a judgement Annette Hall or her husband are qualified to make. If Gary Linderer has a “band of brothers” it is because Gary has earned the brotherhood of many. Annette Hall’s husband, poor Donald, on the other hand, has no brothers left anymore and no real friends either. Donald Hall has done much to earn his outcast status, and he deserves it deeply. But those of us who have had to deal with the Halls over the years know to give Mrs. Hall her share of credit for Donald’s sad state. Her nagging, goading, encouragement and irrepressible tendency to speak for him have surely played an instrumental part in his downfall.
Along with being the only literate writer involved, was Annette Hall also the animating spirit behind their self published book, I Served? And was it Annette who encouraged Don to submit the notorious “Vulture Flight” story from that book to Behind the Lines? For years Annette Hall has been commenting on military matters about which she knows only what her mentally jumbled husband tells her. But in her commentary she writes this of Kit and Heidi: “We should have requested a copy of THEIR DD214’s before we began dealing with them in depth after they responded to our original email and said they wanted to investigate our allegations against Gary Linderer. Their DD214’s would have given us a better idea just how qualified these two women actually were to do a story of this magnitude and complexity.”
Amazing! The blind stupid gall of this woman to write such a thing and post it on a site where every reader already knows what sort of person she is! Kit and Heidi are veterans. They do have DD214s---and they are under no obligation to show them to the Halls. But where is Annette Hall’s DD214? As far I know, she is not a veteran—except perhaps by very, very weak injection. If she is a military veteran, why doesn’t she send out as many copies of her DD214 as she did of her smear sheet against Gary Linderer, so that all the thousands of people to whom she libeled Gary will be able to judge her qualifications?
In her commentary Annette writes: “it is apparent to us that Thiess and Jarrell are of a character that causes them to feel a deep kinship with Linderer and his men…” Mrs. Hall is not a stupid woman, at least not if her husband is setting the baseline for stupidity. Does she not realize what a fine compliment it is to write that Heidi and Kit are of a character to feel a deep kinship with Gary Linderer and men like Riley Cox, Jim Venable, Jim Bacon, Frank Souza, Mike Reiff, Art Herringhausen, Terry Clifton, Mike Reiff, Tony Tercero and the other men of the reaction force, the aviators who flew that day, and the hundreds---no, thousands---of other people, veterans and civilians alike, who consider Gary Linderer a true gentleman and a brother?
Mrs. Hall should remember that Heidi Thiess and Kit Jarrell started looking into all of this on her instigation, not Gary LindererÂ’s. She obviously didnÂ’t expect them to really investigate, nor did she expect them to write as well as they do. But she should have expected at least some minimal amount of intelligence, honesty, and basic decency. Kit and Heidi have abundant reserves of all those qualities. Mrs. Hall may have some intelligence---particularly compared to her husband. But she seems to lack even a shred of honesty and decency---and doesnÂ’t seem to have much grasp of reality, either. Because she lacks these qualities herself, she apparently didnÂ’t expect to find them in Kit and Heidi. Mrs. Hall made a major mistake there!
Mrs. Hall and her husband can---and probably will---continue to threaten people. They can post whatever they like on their website, and the idly curious may visit their site, but no one will ever believe them again. They can claim to have unused and secret hidden information and documents theyÂ’ve been holding back, but again no one will believe them. Their credibility in all matters is gone forever. They can---and probably will---threaten to dig into peoplesÂ’ private lives for things to use against them, and perhaps they will manage to hurt someone or someoneÂ’s family. They can continue to focus their lives around that Great Satan, Gary Linderer, but their devotion will not be rewarded. They can keep snapping and snarling and clawing themselves ever deeper into the pit they have dug for themselves, but they will be alone in that pit. They will never recover whatever honor and whatever place among decent humanity they may have once had. Donald will never dare to show his face at any military reunion or veterans function where anyone is likely to recognize him, and Annette will most likely suffer the utter humiliation of remaining married to Don for the rest of her life.
Mrs. Hall can rage and slander and threaten all she wants. She and your husband have been exposed as the spiteful and poisonous clowns that they are. No one respects her, no one fears her, and except for laughs, no one will listen to her anymore.
Kenn Miller
Posted by: Kenn Miller at August 06, 2005 01:52 AM (BqNFt)
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typo in last paragraph above should read "she and HER husband"
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The following is stated on the cover of Gary Linderer's books: "Gary A. Linderer is the publisher of `Behind the Lines,' a magazine that specializes in U.S. military special operations. In Vietnam, he earned two Silver Stars, the Bronze Star with V device (for Valor), the Army Commendation Medal with V device, and two Purple Hearts. His first two books were selected by the Military Book Club."
Gary Linderer has consistently claimed to have earned two Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts, all for the same day's combat in Vietnam, on 20 November 1968. He used these high honors to enhance his professional reputation and credibility as an author and his fitness to be consulted as an expert on LRP operations. Records I obtained in 2000 by FOIA request from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, MO., refute Mr. Linderer's claims of two Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts for the same dayÂ’s combat actions of 20 November 1968. Because Mr. Linderer has lied about his medals, according to the NPRC records, then readers have to view everything Mr. Linderer writes in his book with a skeptical eye. The text of Linderer's NPRC record is as follows:
National Personnel Records Center Military Personnel Records
9700 Page Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100
OFFICIAL LIST OF AWARDS The Official Military Records of GARY A. LINDERER [SSN removed] show that he is authorized the following awards and decorations for his service in the US Army:
SILVER STAR
BRONZE STAR MEDAL W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AND "V" ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL
W/FIRST OAK LEAF CLUSTER AIR MEDAL
GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL NATIONAL DEFENSE
SERVICE MEDAL
VIETNAM SERVICE MEDAL W/4 BRONZE SERVICE STARS
COMBAT INFANTRYMAN BADGE
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM CAMPAIGN RIBBON W/DEVICE (1960)
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM GALLANTRY CROSS W/PALM UNIT CITATION BADGE SHARPSHOOTER
BADGE W/RIFLE & MACHINE GUN BARS EXPERT BADGE W/AUTO RIFLE BAR
////////NOTHING FOLLOWS/////////////
R. L. HINDMAN,
Director
Posted by: Don at September 28, 2005 07:10 PM (1x8pO)
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Annie get your gun, get on the flight line and be ready to head out to God knows where. That's what Life was about for us Crazy Cav. People and Company L Rangers. I've been there and I know, Gary Linderer is no make-up artist. Believe him or move on with what little time God has left for you. Banshee 56 alpha out!
Posted by: Larry J. Allen at October 11, 2005 10:02 PM (qiNbf)
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I'm off subject here slightly, but I'm looking for a little help. My grandfather has asked me to replace the vietnam era medals his ex burned years ago. I have a copy of his 214 but some of this stuff is like greek to me. I was in the AF so i thought i'd have no problem. my issue is this: GCMDL 2nd award: is the device an oak leaf? and is it an oak leaf on the medal as well? it would be in the AF, but we don't have those stars... so i'm a little lost. the other question i have is the 2 OS Bars listed... is that in reference to the VNCM w Dev (60)? and if it is, what is the device for the OS bars for the medal? how do i attach that to the medal? any help i can get would be appreciated. thanks
Posted by: jenn at October 26, 2005 10:24 AM (qo1SU)
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July 08, 2005
Rumors of U.S. Military Base in Paraguay
(Asuncion, Paraguay) There's a rumor that 500,000 GIs will be going to South America for joint military maneuvers with Paraguay and the possible creation of a military base at a semi-secret airport in El Chaco. The Paraguayan Defense and Foreign Affairs Ministries stated there is no agreement with the U.S.
This story comes from one of Fidel Castro's propaganda organs, the Latin American News Agency, so it must be viewed with skepticism. That's disregarding the ridiculous contention that the U.S. has 500,000 troops standing by for orders to go on maneuvers. However, the idea of having an American military base in the heart of South America does have appeal.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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what in the hell do we need a base in Paraguay for?
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 03:35 PM (8e/V4)
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For Castro's rumor mill, I guess. However, a special, secret and hidden base (read: nonexistent) might work as a psychological ploy to mess with Fidel's head.
Posted by: mike at July 08, 2005 03:44 PM (M7kiy)
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I think Fidel is talking about the 3500 series Hyperdyne Fighting Cyborg chasis with G or H type weapons package. The 4000 series hasn't entered the manufaturing stage where 500,000 units could be produced at this time.
Posted by: Charles at July 08, 2005 04:06 PM (bVc80)
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Is this supposed to be one of the secret bases run by Jooooos?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 08, 2005 04:43 PM (0yYS2)
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No, this one's run by Elvis.
Posted by: Brian B at July 08, 2005 05:09 PM (CouWh)
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US imperialism will stop at nothing to stifle the great socialist system chosen freely by the Cuban people in single-minded unity with their leader President Fidel castro the great man who defeated the so called "hyperpower" in three different wars!
Posted by: Banner Of Songun at July 08, 2005 08:53 PM (uK4DR)
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Tell us more Banner, we're all wearing our tinfoil hats so have at it!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 08, 2005 10:35 PM (0yYS2)
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By the way, I just checked out your blog, and you aren't nearly loyal enough. In fact, you need to denounce yourself for the running dog lackey that you are, considering that you used imperialist computers and software to post your treasonous diatribe! The Great Leader™ will not be pleased. Come to think of it, you should just save them the paperwork if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 08, 2005 10:38 PM (0yYS2)
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Uneducated US imperialist lout! You are caught in an insoluble dilemma as the inherent contradictions of US imperialist dollar capitalism crush you from all sides!
You should study more the history of the Great Leader Comrade Marshal Kim Il Sung's great heroically historic victory over the evil criminal reactionary Japanese militarists at the Battle of Pochonbo.
Posted by: Banner Of Songun at July 09, 2005 12:02 AM (r6a1Q)
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Banner of Songun is right, you all are imperialistic murdering dogs.
US imperialists, will look towards the bright gleaming light of the rays of Hope emanating from the Immortal Sun of Juche, looking with great envy and admiration at the invincible heroic Songun leadership exploits of the Dear Leader Comrade Generalissimo Kim Jong Il leading the Juche-based man-centered socialist perfect society single-mindedly united as one in complete harmony with the Leader and total undying loyalty for him, and they will wish wholeheartedly for the day when they too, just like the free independant properous powerful country that is the utopian socialist workers paradise of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea moving along the sacred path of Songun Politics, can live in freedom and happiness, secure in their lives.
So true Banner of Songun, so true. I must tell others about Great Leader.
Posted by: TOM TUTTLE FROM TACOMA WA at July 09, 2005 01:32 PM (3OPZt)
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Wait, wasnt' Elvis part Jooooooish?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 09, 2005 01:42 PM (0yYS2)
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Great Leader Comrade Marshal Kim Il Sung wore a pink nightie to bed.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 09, 2005 04:11 PM (4di2R)
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Young Bourbon Professional Imperialist Dog:
This is just a sample of what your country is doing to the Peace loving children of The Great Leader.
After frantically trying to stifle the Democratic People Republic of Korea and its Juche-centered system of Korean-style socialism by using satellites to provoke droughts across the land of Juche, the US imperialist criminals of the Bush clique of horrible capitalist contraptions, no doubt at the behest of Karl Rove the puppeteer, are now using hail storms to destroy the rice fields that the Korean people were just finished planting with rice seedlings. This is a clear attempt by the US imperialist monsters at destroying the crops, starving the Korean people.
Great Leader is also a Cougar fan. Fight fight fight for Washington State, win the victory, Were going to win that game for crimson and blue......I still love that song.
Posted by: Tom Tuttle from Tacoma WA at July 09, 2005 06:48 PM (pO1tP)
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>>>"Uneducated US imperialist lout! You are caught in an insoluble dilemma as the inherent contradictions of US imperialist dollar capitalism crush you from all sides!"
This has to be parody. It can't be for real. Please God tell me this guy is just pulling our legs.
Posted by: Carlos at July 09, 2005 10:04 PM (8e/V4)
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I knew a Tom Tuttle once in college. We watched "Going My Way" on time and had many drinks. I remember him saying "Bing's the balls" repeatedly. Same guy?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 10, 2005 08:29 AM (4di2R)
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Went to Washington State and “Volunteered” for the Peace Corps in 1989.Captured by the Red Menace and then, my thoughts began to change.
Banner of Songun is correct, let us all remember to praise Great Leader:
You pushed away the severe storm
You gave us belief, Comrade Kim Jong Il
We cannot live without you
Our country can not exist without you!
Our future and hope depend on you
People's fate depends on you, Comrade Kim Jong Il
We cannot live without you
Our country can not exist without you!
Posted by: Tom Tuttle from Tacoma WA at July 10, 2005 09:19 AM (pO1tP)
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How is Comrade King Kong Il, anyway???
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 09:56 AM (x+5JB)
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Imperialist whiskey drinking dog, can you keep a secret?
Great Leader is said to like scotch, Swedish magazines and watches movies all night staring that great American actor John Candy.
But for the record:
Dear Leader Comrade Generalissimo Kim Jong Il's Songun politics are the lifeblood of the Korean people single mindedly united as one in harmonious steel-strong rock-hard heroic ranks of invincible mass-valour and undying loyalty for the Leader and a banner of perpetual victory over the cravenly cowardly criminal capitalist US imperialists, their satellites, henchmen, hirelings and servants
Posted by: Tom Tuttle from Tacoma WA at July 11, 2005 11:11 AM (3OPZt)
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I resent being called an imperialist whiskey drinking dog! I drink Bourbon.
John Candy. Now there's a fine thespian. God rest his soul.
I had read that the Great Leader was also a charter member of the Yahoo Serious Fan Club as well as has watched all three of Yahoo's films over 1000 times each. Fact or tabloid ballyhoo?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 11:46 AM (x+5JB)
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Great Leader believes that Yahoo is nothing more than a mouth piece for US imperialism. His favorite movies are those that include John Candy. Sometimes Tom Hanks and his beautiful wife Rita who Great Leader has several pictures of before she was “discovered”.
Let us not forget:
Inspired by Comrade Kim Jong Il and the principled stance of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, each day more and more people come to unite to build solidarity with the Korean worker's paradise. Together we can learn the Songun politics because Songun politics is superior to all other forms. Furthermore, as the US imperialists, the commonly hated oppressor, continues its provocative threats, military occupation, and refusal to sign a non-aggression treaty, the Songun politics of the Supreme Commander Kim Jong Il is a correct pro-active policy arming the masses to defend their socialist homeland.
Greg, will you be attending the Songun seminars this month?
Posted by: Tom Tuttle from Tacoma WA at July 11, 2005 12:11 PM (3OPZt)
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So the Great Leader saw right through the imperialistic metaphors running through Yahoo's work? I suspected as much.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 11, 2005 12:27 PM (x+5JB)
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Comrade John Candy was a Canadian and a socialist friend of Comrade Michael Moore you ricidulously revolting retrograde US imperialist enemies of all that is good and pure.
Posted by: Banner Of Songun at July 11, 2005 01:35 PM (tnMAu)
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Banner of Songun, Have you seen the 3 movies reviewed by the Australian imperialist Greg Pead and his counter revolutionary girlfriend Lulu Pinkus? I would like to recommend them to Great Leader even though they contain no scenes from the great Canadian actor John Candy. Your thoughts?
Also let us not forget:
Knowing that the army-centered postulates invented by the dear Leader Kim Jong Il are a treasure-sword of strategies and tactics for defeating the enemy, countering revisionism, and building socialism and communism in the world; it only stands to reason that comrades in the US wishing to fight for freedom would desire and emulate the Songun politics.
Posted by: Tom Tutle from Tacoma WA at July 11, 2005 01:52 PM (3OPZt)
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Os USA não suportam a existência de paises e povos que vivem mais felizes do que eles.
Posted by: Luciano Costa at July 12, 2005 11:13 PM (HToBX)
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Ah! but is it true that Kim Jong 11 is a pillow biter?
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 11:53 PM (CBNGy)
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Murderous Greyrooster dog, you imperialist :
As long as Dear Leader Comrade Generalissimo Kim Jong Il the brilliant statesman, political genius, prodigious humanist, intellectual giant, prolific songwriter, superb theorician, and invincible military commander leads the Juche-based man-centered Korean-style socialist perfect system freely chosen by the Korean people in single-minded profound respect and admiration for Dear Leader and his invincible Songun politics, the criminal capitalist crooked contrived consumerist US imperialists will never defeat, stifle, or browbeat the great invincible prosperous powerful Democratic People's Republic of Korea into submission thanks to Dear Leader's invincible Songun politics that are the lifeblood of the Korean people.
But to make a long story shortÂ’, Great Leader may...in your words Hit from both sides of plate.
Posted by: Tom Tuttle from Tacoma WA at July 13, 2005 12:10 AM (pO1tP)
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Posted by: DKOIDFOEE at July 14, 2005 09:09 AM (DAjSw)
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Couldn't help it but to contribute. (Sorry for my far from perfect english).
I'm from Paraguay, Asuncion to be precise, and there was indeed some buzz over the news of US Military being allowed to come down here... but what is strage is that most of that buzz came from either our neighbor countries (which we all know have... say... "leftier" ideals) but we also had a little nuisance from the ultra left political minority here in Paraguay.
All in all and I think I can speak for the vast majority of the people here, (or at the very least the ones I know) we are happy with the US coming to work down here (or in worst case scenario some people don't care). God knows we need all help we can get to sort this country out and I think it is proven that we can't do it by ourselves.
Besides most of the work done by US military here has to do with raising the quality of life of civilian population, I.E. Exercise "New Horizons 2001" where US Engineers and elements of the 160th Aviation Battalion, Iowa ANG (including two CH-47D Chinooks) built fresh water sources for the needed in the Chaco area (one of the poorest regions in our country) as well as schools and medical attention facilities. There were lots of other exercises were the US military gave free dental, ocular and general medicine attention to the most needed in the rural areas... all of these free of charge to our country.
There was some buzz also as to why they need special permits to bring guns and ammo. Now come'on these people are MILITARY after all, I doubt what these people expect. Besides I know first hand most of these ammo and equipment ends up being donated to our MIlitary/Police and /or is spent training them (which is VERY needed too given the small budget these government agencies manage).
At least most I know is happy and grateful that someone cares enough to help our country, with some of the lousier and most corrupt politicians in the region I guess we (and I talk not only for my country but also for our neighbors) should appreciate all the help we can get.
BTW, just for the record, the US Military isn't staying in any "secret" bases or nothing... to this day most are staying at the Ñu Guazu airbase, a well known base in the outskirts of Asuncion. They work attached to the Comando Aerotrasportado (Airborne infantry). I didn't had the chance to meet any of them but I bet they are not different of the rest of the US military personal I got to meet down here, very friendly, educated and outspoken.
There are indeed plans to take part of these forces to Mcal. Estigarribia (roughly 800 kms north of Asuncion, but yet far from the Bolivian border -take note you conspiracy editors!- because of logistic reasons and also because that is one of the most needed areas (Chaco) and where most of the humanitarian work will be needed. It is also one of the least populated areas making it ideal for drug lords to operate freely. So they will do more good there than anywhere else. I believe they are to install some kind of airspace control system too (ours in that region is been dead for years, counting on our Brazilian, Argentinean and or Bolivian neighbors to help ourselves defend our country of this plage).
Aw and then there is the triple border thing... man I wouldn't mind someone sorting that MESS for Us either, even if some toes gets stepped in the process... not long ago our police got a major drug dealer with false paraguayan papers (including id and gun permit) and he even voted in the presidential elections for christ sake. God only knows what will be found if someone (unbiased) takes control there.
To wrap it up, I'll say those who write the conspiracy theories around US military coming down here and establishing some kind of "black ops" secret bases don't really know what they are talking about (or been reading too much Tom Clancy lately).
Just my opinion!!! your mileage may differ!
HTH
Jose Teixido
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To our friends in Paraguay,
Unfortunately, we in the US are having trouble sorting our country out as well.
The current administration doesn't engage in helping people out. It acts for the good of it's friends and immediate family: the inner circle in the White House, the energy companies and defense industry. I know there are problems with corruption in Paraguay, so you understand what I'm talking about.
Just take a look at what is happening in Afghanistan and the Iraq. The US is hunkered down on the gas pipeline and the oil fields.
The countries they are occupying are suffering and they are not helping them out, they are protecting the assets they want. They are helping out Exxon, Halliburton and Unocal.
I think you should be worried and think twice before agreeing. Sadly, it might be a good idea to get help elsewhere until we get better government.
Posted by: Carol at July 16, 2005 08:37 PM (+j0vW)
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July 06, 2005
Funnel of Death, in Perspective
By Demosophist

The Bloody Angle: Photo by Demosophist, September 2003
The next day, I stood in a tiny rut, a small bend in a shallow, grassy berm, where for sixteen hours men cursed and killed each other at point-blank range, where musket balls flew so furiously that they cut down a foot-thick oak tree. Here, at the Bloody Angle of Spotsylvania, the fighting was hand-to-hand from the break of dawn to almost midnight; uninterrupted horror that to this day remains for me the most appalling single acre in human history. There, on that unassuming, peaceful, empty field – it might as well have been the back of a high school -- men had become so agitated that they climbed the muddy, blood-slick trenches, clawed their way to the parapets to shoot at a man a foot or two away, then hurled their bayoneted muskets like a javelin into the crowd before being shot down and replaced by other half-mad, raving automatons.
What trick of time and memory, what charm or spell does history possess, that can turn such fields of unremitting violence and terror into places of religious awe and wonder? Why are some people called to these places, in America and around the world, to stand in wonder – not only at the brutality of war, but at the transcendental, ennobling power of them? How does slaughter and death turn into nobility and sacrifice? Why can we recite the names of places like Roanoke, Harrisburg, Phoenixville, Marseille, Kiev, Vanuatu and Johannesburg with no more passion than we muster while reading the ingredients on the back of a cereal box, while names like Antietam, Gettysburg, Valley Forge, Verdun, Stalingrad, Guadalcanal and Rorke’s Drift thunder through time as if the earth itself were being rung like a bell? -- (from Bill Whittle's History)
(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia and Anticipatory Retaliation)
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I have some names for you: Chickamauga. Lookout Mountain. Missionary Ridge. Three monumental battles, each deserving of its own unique place in that awful tale, yet were merely lesser actions in the Battle of Chattanooga. Also unique to Chattanooga is the fact that at either end of Market Street there were recruiting booths; at the North end was the Union's, and at the South end, the Confederates'. Often brothers would leave home seperately in the morning, enlist, and return at night to inform their families, only to find that they wore different uniforms. We have no reference in our times for tragedy on such a scale.
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One other thing; is it just me, or does it seem that the really important or horrible battles happen at places with names that have a more poetic quality than the average? Stalingrad was no worse really than Kiev, or Moscow, but has a more rhythmic quality to it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 01:12 AM (0yYS2)
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I just spent some time at the Yorktown Battlefield and had similar thought.
Posted by: CDR Salamander at July 07, 2005 08:04 AM (PJ4Iq)
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What I find interesting is that so many battle fields have the same
names within them. The Bloody angle, the wheatfield, cemetary hill.
One other thing I found very disappointing was when I was stationed
in Quanico, Va., I took a trip to go see Chancellorsville. One of the
greatest turning points of the war due to Jackson's wounding in eventual death. All I found was a single statue where Jackson was wounded. I was very disappointed.
Posted by: Butch at July 07, 2005 10:38 AM (Gqhi9)
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That should be "and eventual death".
Also one more note, on Myth Busters last night, they proved
that the miracle bullet that went thru a Cavalryman's family
jewels into a woman bystander's womb and got in a family way, could
not happen. The bullet had the power to travel the distanct after going through cloth, skin and bone. But all hitchhikers on the bullet
was fried before coming to a stop.
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June 04, 2005
The Aussie Street: A Lesson for the Ummah
By Demosophist
In a recent post on Qu'rangate I speculated that there might be a silver lining:
But sometimes I wonder if Muslims, the deeply religious and the fanatical alike, shouldn't be a little more worried that we might just fly off the handle once in awhile. I worry that our apologists have been too successful at convincing them we're nice, even-tempered barbarians.
Well, I'm not kidding. And a recent post by The Belmont Club demonstrates why it's important.
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Uh, couple of points.
First, it wasn't anthrax. It may have been bacteria spores, but they haven't confirmed that as far as I know.
Second, the letter was written in Indonesian. Odd, that.
Third, the Aussie street is mildly irked. It takes even more to make an Aussie mad than it does for a Yank. (To us, all Americans are Yankees...)
I expect Bali's tourist industry to go completely into the toilet, even worse than after the nightclub bombing. But that's as far as it will go.
Fourth, it was possession of marijuana - albeit 4 kilos of marijuana - that got Schapelle Corby 20 years. A lot of people here don't think it was a fair trial, even without the ludicrous disparity in sentencing.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 04, 2005 07:19 AM (+S1Ft)
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I think this girl was selected for her beauty, and will serve her sentence as a harem girl. Acts like this show that Muslims are uncivilized savages and should be exterminated. Australia should threaten to invade Indonesia if she isn't returned, and the US should help.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 04, 2005 10:09 AM (0yYS2)
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PM:
Uh, couple of points.
Uh, four is more than a "a couple." To deal with two: the story actually calls them "anthrax-relate" spores, which makes little difference to the conjecture; and the language of the note makes sense because
it was addressed to Indonesians. How silly are those "points." Moreover, what's your main point? That the Islamic World should just ignore the implications of the Fourth Conjecture, and proceed as though the consequences don't exist? Like the assumptions of the peaceniks that preserves your fantasy at the expense of millions of lives. Hardly "progressive."
Your "points" sound like the arguments a train passenger might make as his train careens toward a chasm: 1. Well, it's not really a whole train, just a couple of cars; 2. The owner of the corporation is responsible; 3. The lawsuit will set things right; and 4. The fall is only 1,000 feet, not 3,000.
The number of objections you raise (the most substancial being that the Aussie street is only mildly upset, which is debatable) bears little relation to their salience. If conducting total war proves to be some sort of advantage that seriously threatens us (whether "us" means just the US, all English settler societies, or all first-world nations) we'll be compelled to react
in kind, no matter how "uncivilized" it seems to us. And what's more, there are those in our society who can become just as angry and just as dangerous as Muslims, if sufficiently motivated.
Compassion says that people ought to become aware of the consequences of their actions, that's all. Only then is a solution really possible. So far the "peace movement" seems selectively concerned only at the potential "response" of the Arab street to what they perceive as our aggression (ignoring that their aggression wasn't a response but a strategy), but are not especially concerned (for some very strange reasons given their assumptions about the ethics of our leaders) about our retaliatory response to provocation. This seems nuts, because it is.
Posted by: Demosophist at June 04, 2005 11:02 AM (d0CtA)
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A Swiss person visiting Australia goes up to two Australian lads and asks "Quelle manière àla station de train?" The Australians indicate that they don't understand. The Swiss then asks "welche Weise zur Zugstation?" and the Austarlians indicate they don't understand. The Swiss then asks "Quale senso alla stazione di treno?" and the Australians again indicate that they don't understand. The Swiss then finally asks "¿qué manera a la estación de tren?" and the Australians again indicate that they don't understand. With that the Swiss man walks away in disgust. Then one Australian say to the other "Maybe we should learn a foreign language." The other replies "What for? That man knew four and it didn't do him any good."
Posted by: Charles at June 04, 2005 02:29 PM (wQbc6)
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"And what's more, there are those in our society who can become just as angry and just as dangerous as Muslims, if sufficiently motivated." - Demosophist
That is absolutely true. And the Fourth Conjecture makes perfect sense. Now all we have to do is have faith that there are enough of
them that will stop embracing their own demise in the service of Allah as a form of purification and martyrdom long enough to "reason back". We are dangerously close to a hugely disproportionate retaliation should they finally step over a line. A line that some don't realize exists, but it's there.
Posted by: Oyster at June 04, 2005 02:42 PM (YudAC)
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I am an American. As such I will explain American policy. It is very simple, and just over 100 years old. Walk softly, and carry a big stick. Saddam, and bin laden got the big stick. Just not our biggest. Only very special assholes get the really big stick.They tend to pretend not to hear what we are saying, at a critical moment. Ask Japan what that was like. Russia was wise enough to back off back in the day. North Korea will too, or perhaps they won't. Besides, who knows what the really big stick is anymore? Doesn't have to be a bomb right?
Posted by: Kstumpf at June 04, 2005 03:45 PM (Crwpa)
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My only problem here is...the Koran sanctions what they're doing. It is Islam's holy men--the Imams and the clerics who are actually quoting verses from the Koran and Sunah to incite more violence against the infidel.
I don't know of any other religion whose holy book instructs the body of believers to "kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." It's strange that they're known as the "religion of peace"...I haven't seen any evidence of it.
Posted by: Cao at June 04, 2005 04:16 PM (RyucI)
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Compassion is a western way of thinking, not an eastern, you can search through Chinas vast liberies they have and are hard pressed to find any sense of compassion for suffering.
As far as Corby goes, perhaps the perps are in Bali not in one of the airports in Australia. If such is the case it is no wonder they destroyed the finger print evidence to cover up what they did and the laughing the customs officer and police where doing was the fact they knew the punch line to the joke.
All things considered, no smuggler would simply throw 4.1kg of dope or any drugs in a clear bag for all to see in such a brazen way, so it makes me wonder. Why do we keep going to these shit holes we are clearly not welcomed in.
People say, don't hurt them by boycotting them, but they certainly have no problem hurting us. Wether it is a Corby or the Bali blast, they certainly really don't want us around anymore, so we should reciprocate the goodwill.
Posted by: Andre at June 04, 2005 05:22 PM (mfvPa)
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Hey! We have some killer beaches in the US! Not to mention plenty of ethnic flavor. Forget bali, and all of those folks who cannot appreciate an open society. we love Aussies here in the States. Tasmanians are Welcome too! (Just leave out the bloody Dutch!)We can put you 90 miles off of the coast of Cuba! To help you appreciate the fact you are a big Island, come to the Southern Border and watch Mexico invade! You can spend time visiting Canadian commonwealth companions and ask them why it is such a bad Idea to keep shady charicters away. Perhaps it is because Austrailia actually has had to defend itself, whereas Canada just rides the coat Tails of America. But, I digress. Keep up the good fight, and when you are ready to invade Indonesia, America will likely be there.
Posted by: Kevin Stumpf at June 04, 2005 05:43 PM (Crwpa)
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Demosophist, you don't know me, but here's a little hint as to my position: I run the server that hosts this blog.
My points are intended to clarify some facts. The white power was
not anthrax spores. That matters. The letter sent to the embassy was written in Indonesian, which is
not a common language in Australia, and not something a random Schapelle Corby supporter is likely to know. I'm wondering if there may be deeper motives to this mess. I don't know.
And the Australian street is not "madder than a cut snake". It is somewhat ticked off. We don't blame Indonesia for the nightclub bombing, but we
do blame them for their crappy legal system. And that's why Bali's economy is going to go right down the drain.
I don't disagree with Wretchard's fundamental point. If the Islamists choose to throw away the laws of war, sooner or later, we will too. The current War on Terror is Islam's last, best hope. We still have the forbearance to treat it as a crime rather than a war. The result is, in Iraq, the "insurgents" have made enemies of the Iraqi people. That's what we want. (Well, we want the "insurgents" dead, but short of that.)
I know what the Western World is capable of when it comes to war. If we found it necessary to really engage in total war, it would be over in two hours. We have many levels of escalation short of total war, though. So far, it has been the most carefully controlled, the
nicest war ever fought. That could change.
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P.S. I host Anticipatory Retaliation too.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 04, 2005 07:55 PM (+S1Ft)
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Improbulus Maximus: Why do you want to exterminate Muslims? Would this make YOU a terrorist? The very thing you despise seems to be the very thing your advocating. Sure, I don't like nutcases in any religion...and believe me all the nutcases fuck things up in the name of God. Hate the religion, not the people.
On another subject...just to protect anyone in here: scammers keep getting slicker...I got an email the other day that was from "paypal" asking me to update something (which they have done legitimately before, but I don't fall for scams) and was given this link:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_login-run
which actually brings you to this:
http://www.stb.tsukuba.ac.jp/~piano/index1.html
which someone ripped the graphics and hacked the secure server's source code from the real paypal site. It is a ploy to get people to submit personal info so they can hijack your $ and identity. If you compare the last link to paypal's real site, the only visual difference is the URL and the fact that the last link isn't secure. Most people wouldn't notice these things. Anyway, just looking out for people in here because scammers are always finding a new way to scam.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 04, 2005 08:24 PM (B9hEP)
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Right, osama, no one hear had ever heard of phishing until you posted that.
Posted by: SPQR at June 04, 2005 09:12 PM (xauGB)
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Cao:
I don't know of any other religion whose holy book instructs the body of believers to "kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." It's strange that they're known as the "religion of peace"...I haven't seen any evidence of it.
It'll be hard to find a mainline religion that doesn't have passages that can be interpreted as instructions to kill unbelievers, either passively or actively. The "evidence" is that beliefs change when the "social mission" of the religion changes. I probably don't need to point out the many instances in which Christians have justified killing "heathens" based on some misguided interpretation of theeir scripture do I? The point isn't that religion is evil, but that belief follows function. See some of the research done by
Eli Berman. It's pretty convincing.
Kevin:
We can put you 90 miles off of the coast of Cuba!
The beaches in the Keys kind of suck. Certainly nothing live Avalon near Sydney. But there's lots of other stuff to do there, and it's the second largest reef on the planet next to the GBR.
PM:
The white pow[d]er was
not anthrax spores. That matters.
Nice to know who you are, but actually I don't think it does. Think about it. Anthrax isn't that deadly anyway. The corrections were insubstancial to the point of the piece, is all I'm saying. The compulsion that people feel to make these kinds of corrections is one reason why Den Beste quit blogging. (I think you probably hosted his site too, right?) But here's what Wretchard says about the issue. See if the issues you raise make a difference:
Any environment capable of producing terrorism on a scale which could destroy America would be sufficiently powerful to destroy Islam -- and destroy it first many times over. Any weapon that AQ Khan can make can be bought by believers and infidels alike. The theorists of asymmetrical terrorist warfare forgot that its military effectiveness depends on the very restraints that it, itself, dissolves.
It's essential that Islam understand this point if there's to be any hope that it will deal effectively with the Salafist fanatics. As for the use of the language, it really isn't that difficult to find someone to translate a message. Honest. Any tourist to Bali could have had it done. In fact, I had an Indonesian roommate a few years back who could have written such a message, and I live nowhere near Indonesia.
As for the comment about the "Aussie street," I admit that was dramatic license. By and large Australians aren't going to be sufficiently threatened by a relatively small scale terrorist incident in Bali, and they'd talk it over in pubs before hitting the street anyway. But the whole of the society doesn't really have to be up in arms to produce a few people willing to organize such an attack.
The current War on Terror is Islam's last, best hope. We still have the forbearance to treat it as a crime rather than a war.
But the point is that, by and large, they don't know this is their "last best hope." Nor do most Americans understand the dynamics. If they did, a lot of the opposition on both sides would likely disappear. The clock is ticking.
By the way, I'm not convinced that Bush is investing enough in the project to make it work. I'm sitting in the heart of the infrastructure, and what I see is that the train really has yet to leave the station. Soon, many of the folks who could contribute critical expertise to the project will leave to find work elsewhere, and the window of opportunity will have passed. I like to think Bush knows what he's doing, because I like what he's saying... but I see little evidence that there's enough behind the words. If this train is ever to leave the station it may require a different engine.
We have many levels of escalation short of total war, though. So far, it has been the most carefully controlled, the
nicest war ever fought. That could change.
I am not convinced that there is a continuum, or "many levels of escalation." The point of Wretchard's original article is that if there's a slow escalation a lot more people ultimately lose their lives than if there's an almost immediate total retaliation across the entire Middle East, and possibly against all of Islam. It's a fairly straightforward calculation, and one that our planners probably know well. It may not be that a single devastating WMD strike would cross the threshold that triggers such retaliation, but more than one certainly would. And the more widely dispersed the possession of WMD in the Ummah the more certain the retaliation. I'm convinced that's one reason Qadaffi got rid of them. They're not an advantage. They're a message that says "Destroy Me."
Posted by: Demosophist at June 04, 2005 09:32 PM (d0CtA)
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SPQR: Pblththth...I wasn't saying' nobody has heard of phishing. But you would be damn surprised how many people don't even know what that is. Don't diss someone who's just trying to look out for people just to make your ego feel good...
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 04, 2005 09:42 PM (B9hEP)
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Demosophist -
The compulsion that people feel to make these kinds of corrections is one reason why Den Beste quit blogging.
Well, I think saying it was anthrax when it wasn't is a bit more than a nit. But it doesn't change the underlying argument, true enough. (By the way, I didn't host Steven Den Beste's site, though I was a regular reader and had a few email conversations with him.)
I don't recall if it was SDB or Wretchard who had the post on responses to nuclear attack, but in either case they agreed with your point; that the only sensible response to such an attack is immediate and full escalation.
And agreed on Qadaffi. He's not as stupid as Assad or as crazy as the Mullahs, and when he saw that America was serious (not yet mad, but serious) he realised the truth. All he could do with all his weapons is scratch America, but America could destroy him in an instant.
There
are levels of escalation. We chose to free Iraq; we declared war on the Ba'athist government, not on the nation. We could have bombed every military and industrial installation in the country into smoking craters rather than sending in ground troops. We chose a harder way which may have better long-term returns. I hope it works.
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PM:
There
are levels of escalation. We chose to free Iraq; we declared war on the Ba'athist government, not on the nation. We could have bombed every military and industrial installation in the country into smoking craters rather than sending in ground troops. We chose a harder way which may have better long-term returns. I hope it works.
The "levels of escalation" have a one-to-one correspondence with our degrees of freedom. And with each escalation the degrees of freedom become fewer. There are certainly levels of escalation if there's an authority with which one can negotiate a surrender, but the "third conjecture" is based on the observation that this isn't the case for a decentralized terrorist organization. That's not just because it lacks an organized structure, but more importantly because there's no way for the organization to bind itself to terms. It can agree to terms, but it has no way of assuring that the terms will be kept. Thus, we're stuck with no degrees of freedom. We have to assume that terms won't be kept, they have to know that we're compelled to make that assumption, so they're course of action is set as well. We arrive at the "dominant solution" in one step.
Now, having said that, I met a fellow recently who said that he has a more formal analysis of this dilemma, but he wouldn't discuss it at the time and I haven't yet read his paper. So I can't really comment on whether he has a solution. The fellow's name is Francesco Parisi. He has some papers listed on the
Social Science Research Network, but I don't have a cite for the one he was talking about. May be in my notes somewhere. I guess I was underwhelmed when he chose to pedal a paper, rather than just discuss the issue.
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The level of tolerance for Muslim fanaticism in Indonesia culminating in the Bali bombing shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone. Least of all them. They have provided a wonderful medium for these whackos to thrive in with the misconception that in doing so there is a sense of allegiance and they are immune. It's akin to teaching a pit bull aggression because aggression is a way of life for you and then being surprised when you hand him a biscuit and he takes half your hand off with the first bite.
Then the Indonesian government looks to all the nations who practice tolerance and restraint for pity. It's going to take a few more of these attacks for them to wake up and smell the coffee.
The Aussies share our values in many ways and if necessary would come to the aid of Indonesia when that dog bites them as we came to the aid of Muslims in Serbia. But, Indonesia has turned around and bitten
their hand by arresting a
model for crying out loud, while right under their noses the many terrorists in their country use illegal drugs to fund their operations. Another catastrophe in Indonesia could very well get them the finger from the Aussies - then where do they turn for their pity?
So maybe the "reasoning back" in the Fourth Conjecture can also be a horrible realization that help is definately NOT on the way.
Posted by: Oyster at June 05, 2005 07:11 AM (YudAC)
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I'd give them pity, how about some steraliants in humanitarian AID.
Of course, this would beg a question on how many indonesians does it take to make the world a better place? The answer would be ZERO. Same goes for the Al quedaites. We need Zero of them as well to make this world a better place.
Now didn't indonesia kill 5 Australian reporters in the 70s for no reason? Then killed a 6th for reporting on the deaths of the 5 other reporters? Why give these people so much as a smoldering plate full of shit for humanitarian aid after that bullshit. But no, we forgive, we go back we get killed somemore by terrorists looking for "white meat" targets, as the smiling bomber of the nightclubs in bali boldly told. Matter of fact, there is a photo of this smiling bomber with police openly laughing in the picture after the incident. Goes to tell you what kind of "soul" indonesia has. A rotten one.
Posted by: Andre at June 05, 2005 09:05 AM (mfvPa)
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Andre: They call that "taking advantage of one's good nature".
I have an Indonesian friend who grabbed her first chance to marry an American just to get the hell out of there. Fortunately, he is a good man and she's been very happy with him for 15 years. Unfortunately, many of these women aren't as lucky and know they're taking a chance, but that only shows how desperate they are to get out from under the thumb of Islam.
Posted by: Oyster at June 05, 2005 09:30 AM (YudAC)
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"...I got an email the other day that was from "paypal" asking me to update something (which they have done legitimately before, but I don't fall for scams) and was given this link:"
Steven,
thanks for the heads up. I've been getting stuff from them and it seemed legit, but I hadn't responded yet.
Posted by: Carlos at June 05, 2005 09:54 AM (UWO6N)
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There was an Asian female who I believe got the death sentence for distribution, I believe she was the Asian female being taken in to court the day Corby collapsed. The other female collapsed before corby did. It was the spetical where Corbys older sister swung her purse at the camera crews and the guards. I'm wondering how many of these drug cases they have are outright setups by the police. It is sickening to think that out of 501 cases that judge convicted people of, that more than likely a good percentage never did the crime to begin with. Btw, those judges that presided over corby the chief is a christain and the other two hindus.
Posted by: Andre at June 05, 2005 12:33 PM (mfvPa)
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Carlos: Yeah, I only posted it because I'm a total tech, and even I was impressed at how slick they were. I could totally see someone falling for it, thus why I alerted anyone I know. That, and file a FTC complaint...turns out they are already under investigation.
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 05, 2005 01:58 PM (B9hEP)
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Quothe osamabeenthere the terrorist lover:
"Improbulus Maximus: Why do you want to exterminate Muslims?"
Because they want to exterminate us. What cave have you been living in? I don't hate them for being muslim, I hate them because they are the enemy, nothing more, nothing less. I don't hate Buddhists, or even Mormons, because they don't kill people for fun. Muslims do, so I hate them.
"Would this make YOU a terrorist?"
Whatever it takes to get the job done. I think a few headless muslim corpses found in the streets of America, or Australia, would send a clear message. I'm a nice guy, until you cross me. I would love to start a trophy collection, and if the morons want to start trouble in the streets of America, I will.
"The very thing you despise seems to be the very thing your advocating."
No, I despise my enemies. I hate them, and want them to die. I only advocate killing my enemies. If they don't want to be hated, they should't kill innocent people and kidnap pretty white girls.
"Sure, I don't like nutcases in any religion...and believe me all the nutcases fuck things up in the name of God. Hate the religion, not the people."
That's like saying "Hate Nazis, but not Nazi ideology. Islam is just fascism in another guise. The people are the religion, as religion can't exist without fanatics to carry it on. Besides, the best way to kill a virus is to kill its host. When all the muslims are dead, then islam will be dead.
Stop apologizing and making excuses for terrorists, they will kill you too if they get the chance.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 05, 2005 03:45 PM (0yYS2)
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IM: You're completely false for calling me a "terrorist lover" since I've never supported them and never will. I'm not sure where you're getting that impression from. I'm not apologizing for terrorists or making excuses for them. I'm also not doing that for you...which is why I'm saying it's genocide that you are promoting, not a solution. Headless Muslim corpses in America would help terrorists justify what they do, not scare them off. I suppose your solution to AIDS is killing everyone in Africa? Come on man, I know you're smarter than this. There are other ways to solve problems...
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Quothe osamabeenmisled:
"IM: You're completely false for calling me a "terrorist lover" since I've never supported them and never will."
Your posts are never supportive of the US effort and are always sympathetic to the terrorists. You better get with the program, because muslims don't believe in any rights, except the right to die by their hands.
"I'm not sure where you're getting that impression from. I'm not apologizing for terrorists or making excuses for them."
I've been reading your posts, you're not on our side. There is no third side in war, so that pretty much narrows it down.
"I'm also not doing that for you...which is why I'm saying it's genocide that you are promoting, not a solution."
Not genocide, just total war. Kill them until they get sick of losing, and bury the dead wrapped in pigskins.
"Headless Muslim corpses in America would help terrorists justify what they do, not scare them off."
We can't know until we try then, can we? Just a few, for sport then.
"I suppose your solution to AIDS is killing everyone in Africa?"
Nice redirect attempt, but sorry, we weren't talking about AIDS or Africa.
"Come on man, I know you're smarter than this."
I'm smart enough to know that you have to know your enemy, so I have learned more about muslims than you will ever know. Some of them are nice people, but their cultural mission is to make the world muslim, which means they have to kill everyone who resists. I say give them the black flag, and kill them until they realize it's a losing game.
"There are other ways to solve problems..."
Like what, talking to them? Negotiating? Maybe we should just pay them tribute and let them overrun us? That's all well and good, for cowards. Killing one's enemies is much more efficient.
Chappelle Corby is probably being gang-raped right now. Several times a day. These subhuman animals are violating her and the most poweful countries in the world are paralyzed, helpless to do anything. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable is an idiot and should commit suicide.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 05, 2005 04:53 PM (0yYS2)
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IM: You never cease to amaze me...
"Your posts are never supportive of the US effort and are always sympathetic to the terrorists. You better get with the program, because muslims don't believe in any rights, except the right to die by their hands."
Oh really? I forgot how their armies are marching all over America. I would also be more supportive of the US effort if we had better leaders. Name one post I've had that is sympathetic to terrorists. Don't forget I was there in NYC and saw those towers fall...it changed me forever and I would never endorse the actions of terrorists or sympathize with them.
"I've been reading your posts, you're not on our side. There is no third side in war, so that pretty much narrows it down."
Seeing black and white are we? You're right I'm not on your side because your side is genocide. There are plenty of other posters in here too who don't support your ideas. Are they traitors in your eyes as well? I have a feeling you're of the "If you're not with us you're against us." school of thought...a quick look at history shows how that never results in a positive outcome. Your problem is that you think there are two sides to this war when it's really not that simple.
"Not genocide, just total war. Kill them until they get sick of losing, and bury the dead wrapped in pigskins."
Last time I checked, wiping out all Muslims IS genocide.
"We can't know until we try then, can we? Just a few, for sport then."
So you advocate killing innocent people too? Maybe fellow Americans who are Muslims? Doesn't this make you just like your enemies?
"Nice redirect attempt, but sorry, we weren't talking about AIDS or Africa."
It's not a redirect: You said the best way to kill a virus is to kill the host.
"I'm smart enough to know that you have to know your enemy, so I have learned more about muslims than you will ever know. Some of them are nice people, but their cultural mission is to make the world muslim, which means they have to kill everyone who resists. I say give them the black flag, and kill them until they realize it's a losing game.
Hmmmm. IM, would you call yourself intolerant? Racist? I never claimed to know more about Muslims than you. I'm sure you obsess over them much more than I do.
"Like what, talking to them? Negotiating? Maybe we should just pay them tribute and let them overrun us? That's all well and good, for cowards. Killing one's enemies is much more efficient."
I didn't offer a solution, but I do know that genocide is not a solution. Religious prosecution only makes people more resistant and gives them a cause to retaliate. If killing one's enemies is more efficient, then why the fuck are Iraqi civilians dead and Osama Bin Hiding alive?
"Chappelle Corby is probably being gang-raped right now. Several times a day. These subhuman animals are violating her and the most poweful countries in the world are paralyzed, helpless to do anything. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable is an idiot and should commit suicide."
Well, if they are doing that I'll track them down myself and punish them by making them read your posts while pooping on the Koran. Or should I just have them chimped?
Posted by: osamabeenthere at June 05, 2005 06:54 PM (B9hEP)
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Improbulus Maximus: Just because your panties are in a bind, I'll drop you this link to make you feel better:
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/badterror.html
Posted by: osamabinhiding at June 06, 2005 12:57 AM (B9hEP)
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"I would also be more supportive of the US effort if we had better leaders."
Leaving the rest of the 'discussion' you 2 are having aside, doesn't this stance make you extremely selfish?
Posted by: Defense Guy at June 06, 2005 09:55 AM (jPCiN)
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DG: How is it selfish to support our troops, but feel our country could have a much better administration? Or am I missing your point?
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 06, 2005 11:05 AM (B9hEP)
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I think Osama has a valid point and every right to criticize the administration. I criticize them myself. Perhaps we disagree on what to be critical of, but that's besides the point. However, I don't believe for one moment that he wishes us to lose this war just to prove some obscure point like many hard-lefties do. He may or may not feel this war is illegitimate but at least he's begun to recognize the merits of it since it has come to be.
On the other hand, I think IM is too hardlined in his responses. There are many "pretend" Muslims out there. I understand that they are guilty
to some degree by their mere silence, but I do not think they are worthy of death or beheading or dismemberment or any one of a plethora of punishments out there. We cannot discard all that makes us human - charity & compassion - or we have lowered ourselves to the level of those who do not embrace these traits. To those, yes, they deserve what they give. But not everyone simply because they "call" themselves Muslim. We cannot win the hearts and minds of others by indiscriminately doling out harsh treatments to all.
To IM I would quote Nietzsche: "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
To Osama I would quote Miller: "The closer men came to perfecting themselves a paradise, the more impatient they seemed to become with it, and with themselves as well. They made a garden of pleasure, and became progressively more miserable with it as it grew in richness and power and beauty; for then, perhaps, it was easier for them to see that something was missing in the garden, some tree or shrub that would not grow. When the world was in darkness and wretchedness, it could believe in perfection and yearn for it. But when the world became bright with reason and riches, it began to sense the narrowness of the needle's eye, and that rankled for a world no longer willing to believe or yearn."
Posted by: Oyster at June 06, 2005 12:41 PM (fl6E1)
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Osama
I think I misread your intentions. I took it as meaning you would support the war effort if we had different leaders. If you are supporting the troops in their endeavor, and not just to 'bring them home now', then you will get no quarrel from me.
Posted by: Defense Guy at June 06, 2005 12:53 PM (jPCiN)
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DG: Yeah, I support the troops. I also understand any large group of people will have a few who do stupid shit...which is why I don't form my opinions of our troops based on a few scandals either. I don't like the way this war started, and I'm less than thrilled with Bush, inc. I also realize that just dropping that place would be the worse thing we could do right now. I guess we don't have a quarrel then! I do have some progressive ideas about how I would like our country to be run, but some are quick to label me a 'lib' for this. I don't know what you'd call me (hopefully something good) but I actually have the best intentions.
Oyster: Nice quotes...I've read them before and the Nietzsche one is one of my favorites.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at June 06, 2005 01:40 PM (B9hEP)
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