January 18, 2006
Iraq Chopper Video
Several choppers have been shot down in Iraq of late. Infovlad has the new video of a chopper being shot down released by the terrorists. There are conflicting reports as to how these choppers go down. Mujahedin Army and Salahudin al-Ayoubi Brigade have both claimed responsibility. The Mujahedin Army released the video. The enemy can be heard in the background repeating “God is Great” in Arabic.
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Several choppers have been shot down in Iraq of late. Infovlad has the new video of a chopper being shot down released by the terrorists. There are conflicting reports as to how these choppers go down. Mujahedin Army and Salahudin al-Ayoubi Brigade have both claimed responsibility. The Mujahedin Army released the video. The enemy can be heard in the background repeating “God is Great” in Arabic.NPR’s ATC : Three helicopters operated by the U.S. military have gone down in Iraq in the past 10 days, resulting in 16 deaths. Some experts believe insurgents are using a new weapon: an airborne cousin of the roadside bombs used to blow up trucks and tanks.So that would lead you to believe that some or all of the shoot downs are dumb luck. However after viewing the new video on infovlad the AP version reported in the Indy Star seems accurate.
AP Via Indy Star : Ashid Khalifa, 27, who has a food and drink stand in the area, said he saw the attack. "I saw the smoke trail left by the missile," he said. "I heard a hissing sound, looked around and saw the helicopter losing control before crashing down."This is being questioned by the US Military.The U.S. command questioned the credibility of a video purportedly showing an attack on a helicopter that was posted on the Internet by one of the militant groups, the Mujahedeen Army.
"A review of the footage on television of a missile being fired does not appear to show this incident today, which remains under investigation," said Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, a U.S. spokesman.Well maybe there is some sort of primitive roadside bomb but the video does match the description of the AP’s witness. This suggests that the enemy does have at least some rocket fired missiles. If this is the actual video this device traveled quite a bit more than the “couple hundred feet” reported in the NPR story."This appears to be another case of terrorists attempting to manipulate a tragic incident," he added.
Updated: ABCNEWS : Reports this was a Russian missile..
Pentagon officials tell ABC News they believe Iraqi insurgents used a Russian-made SA-7 surface-to-air missile to shoot down a U.S. military helicopter on Monday... ...It's a troubling new development because there are hundreds — and by some estimates thousands — of SA-7 missiles that are unaccounted for in Iraq... ...The weapons had been part of Saddam Hussein's arsenal, much of which was looted after the invasion. But until now, insurgents had never successfully used them against an American aircraft.Also posted at Howie's Moisture Farm
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Well now we know where a few of those stingers from Afghanistan wound up.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 18, 2006 10:54 AM (0yYS2)
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Always with the negative waves! And defeatist attitudes! Your parroting the typical left line too often. Above comment could have just as easily been written by greg or actus.
Posted by: hondo at January 18, 2006 11:42 AM (3aakz)
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There has been an issue of late of aerial IED's with AA or other artillery proximity fuse. The explosion is 50 feet high and showers shrapnel all over.
Posted by: tomahawk6 at January 18, 2006 12:18 PM (UK/Vr)
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Is that the same theory that the Mujahedin used in Afghanistan against the Soviet helicopters & Somalia with a time fused RPG that caused damage to the rotors via fragmentation?
Posted by: dave at January 18, 2006 01:30 PM (CcXvt)
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I ghost worked on a paper on this very subject 20 years ago. Arial mining - success it heavily dependent on terrain and operational tactics and responses of the helios.
The situation there is not particularly conducive to it - but an isolated case is possible.
Posted by: hondo at January 18, 2006 04:16 PM (3aakz)
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Look at some of those comment under the InfoVlad posts. The Ripley option is looking better everyday.
Posted by: Abdullah al-Libi at January 18, 2006 07:01 PM (S3UBA)
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Hondo, put down the Kool-Aid and back away slowly, I'm your friend and I'm here to help. The fact is there are still many stingers from the Afghan/Russian war that are unaccounted for, at least according to those whose job it was to find them all. I watched the video, and that wasn't an RPG, it tracked the chopper, so it was likely a stinger. Just because you don't like the truth doesn't make it less true.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 19, 2006 12:35 AM (0yYS2)
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Or maybe the missile was imported from Iran? The Russians are doing good business there now.
Posted by: ed at January 19, 2006 02:45 AM (r+Jmy)
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First, apparently the only words in the arabic language are "allahu akbar" because thats all I ever hear them saying while fleeing the scene.
Second, these idiots have been using the Russian made missiles to shoot down helos for quite some time now. I think they are called Strella missiles or something close to that. They shot down a Belgian helo with 6 Blackwater contractors on board a while back with the same weapon, killing everyone except the pilot whom they found in the debris and summarily executed (there is video of the entire incident). My question is is this stuff old, or are they being supplied with it currently by the Russians, maybe as retribution for Afghanistan?
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at January 19, 2006 04:39 AM (CtVG6)
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Probably some old and some new, Jack.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 19, 2006 09:43 AM (0yYS2)
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