December 27, 2005

More Hostage Taking, Islamofascist Rhetoric, In Iraq

moroccan_hostages_murdered.jpgAn unkown group has taken at least six Sudanese embassy employees hostage. The Sudanese government, a long-time state-sponsor of terrorism itself, reports that it is in negotiations for the release of the hostages.

In related news, a leading Sunni Muslim cleric has reportedly 'condemned' the kidnappings of two Moroccan embassy workers, a driver, Abderrahim Boualam, and a diplomatic employee, Abdelkrim el-Mouhafidi, taken hostage in October. Al Qaeda had threatened to murder the hostages and had already reported that an Islamic court had issued the death sentence to them for 'apostasy'. In actuality, the 'theologian' only conditionally condemned the hostage taking. Instead of claiming that hostage taking was intrinsically wrong, he condemned al Qaeda's actions by saying that it was wrong to kidnap Muslims.

Maghreb Agabe Press:

"The two Moroccan citizens have no link with the Iraqi issue. They are innocents," he underlined in a statement broadcast Monday by Arabic Channel "Al Arabiya." [italics added]
Notice how the cleric gives an out to those who would kidnap anyone involved with the Iraqi government or with the Coalition forces? Presumably, those who have a link to Iraqi issues are not 'innocent'. Further, al Qaeda in Iraq had originally condemned the two Moroccans to death based on the fact that the two were found 'guilty' of breaking Islamic law's prohibition on 'apostasy'. Instead of declaring that a civilized religion would never kill adherents for 'apostasy', that freedom of conscience and religious expression were basic human rights, the 'theologian' chose instead to declare the two 'innocent'. Does this mean that if they had really been guilty of 'aspostasy' that Islamic law would have permitted al Qaeda to execute the pair?
"I ask the parties who hold the two Moroccan hostages Abdelkarim Mohafidi and Abderrahim Boualam to release them because they are mere employees and their families are living painful moments," added Koubaysi, an eminent theologist who graduated from the Egyptian university of Al Azhar.

He recalled that Islam “taught us mercy even to the enemy”, stressing that the two Moroccan citizens “are not enemies but belong to the Ummah (Islamic Nation), and are not responsible for what is going on in Iraq”.[italics added]

What can one say about a religion that is still debating the legitimacy of hostage-taking and murder? That can only condemn hostage-taking if conditioned on the fact that the hostages are Muslims or who have no affiliation with the West, and not based on intrinsic human dignity? KUNA:
"The Islamic Union in Baghdad obtained information confirming that the kidnapped are safe and in good health condition," said Ibraheem He told the press that the government made extensive efforts to free the Sudanese who were kidnapped by gunmen in Baghdad last Friday.

"Our contacts and consultations are on with several parties to communicate with the kidnapped and release them all by the armed group in Iraq," said the Sudanese official.

He said, the Sudanese mission in Baghdad is able to carry out its duties for freeing the hostages.

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1 YOU CAN BLAME BUSH/RUMSFELD! If they weren't sooooo obsessed with tolerating the initial orgy of looting in order to suppress massive retribution and bloodletting on the part of the Shia & Kurds against the Sunni - we wouldn't be having many of these problems! Guess someone in Admin thought video footage of people carting off TV sets would be viewed more favorably by the MSM than Sunnis hanging from lamp posts or wearing flaming tire necklaces. Mistake # .... (PS - I am being serious in a light-hearted manner - might make the leftists merry - it is Christmas!)

Posted by: hondo at December 27, 2005 06:21 PM (3aakz)

2 Agent Smith exhorts you to START THE DRAFT NOW!! It is time to open the canned heat and whip some SALAFIST TERRORIST ASS. 500,000 American Troops plus the Baathist Generals will wipe out the terrorist scourge and defend Iraqi Freedom from Iran's President Jihadidad. There is no time to waste, call your senators and congressmen now!

Posted by: Agent Smith at December 27, 2005 06:47 PM (Gy73I)

3 Don't need 500000 US troops - need 500000 rifles for the Shia & Kurds - look the other way - and lots of blinders for the MSM. As per Nguyen Ngoc Loan, Ret.

Posted by: hondo at December 27, 2005 07:00 PM (3aakz)

4 "What can one say about a religion that is still debating the legitimacy of hostage taking and murder?" Not anything positive, that's for sure.

Posted by: jesusland joe at December 27, 2005 07:32 PM (rUyw4)

5 "What can one say about a religion that is still debating the legitimacy of hostage-taking and murder?" Well, for starters you can safely say it doen't toe the line for fashionable 21st century morality. Why, it's been decades since the West decided it was cool to quit treating children like chattel, women like household appliances, Jews like pizzas, and start being nice to everyone. Islam shows little interest in keeping up with the trends we're setting. What gives? Muslims have this theory: God tells Man what is right, and Man complies. It doesn't work that way in practice, for the most part, but it's a degree more dignified than the way we do religion in the West, which is to thrust all the moral opinions you fancy at the moment into God's mouth like you were a ventriloquist and The Almighty was your puppet. This is why our God never commands anything that clashes with our ideas of "intrinsic human dignity," or anything else we don't want to hear for that matter. Muslims spend most of their time doing this too--burkas and kidnappings are not commanded in the Koran--but at least part of the time they actually read their Holy Book and try to comply with the ancient rules of The Deity. A few of our Christians try to do that with the Bible, but when they do they're treated like freaks, and if they take it too far they get hosed down by the FBI. IIRC, Koran demands death for apostasy, and if you waste Ahmed for deciding to be a Hare Krishna instead, your fellow Muslims might just applaud your piety because they take the scripture seriously (sometimes.)

Posted by: ShannonKW at December 27, 2005 07:53 PM (dT1MB)

6 Shannon, You need to go over to Jihad Watch or to Daniel Pipes and read a few of the Koranic verses that order the faithful to kill the infidel and plunder his wealth. The fact that millions of Muslims, if not tens of millions take the Koran at face value might give rise to more thought from you on the matter. Historical perspective can be found at the best book I know on the subject of jihad, and that book is Jihad in the West by Paul Fregosi, who is a Frenchman. Very interesting, to say the least. Anything written by Robert Spencer, such as The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, or several others will enlighten you on Islam.

Posted by: jesusland joe at December 27, 2005 08:20 PM (rUyw4)

7 These radicals have not one bit of civilized behavior and even the muselum clerics are denouncing them as the cowards they are

Posted by: sandpiper at December 27, 2005 08:58 PM (nMpEK)

8 Joe, I don't doubt that the Koran commands some pretty freaky stuff (then again, in fairness, so does the Bible.) Notice that I wasn't praising it for the soundness of the ethical system it propounds. I do stand on the point that Muslems spend much of their time reading local customs (burka) into the Koran that aren't there, and ignoring doctrines (tolerance for Christians and Jews) that are. I've known some Muslems, and they seemed little more preoccupied with religious rules than any other people I've met. If even a substantial fraction of them took the Hellfire & Brimstone parts of Koran seriously, we'd be seeing human waves of thousands sweeping out of Gaza rather than the piddling handful of mortar rounds on alternate Fridays that we see now.

Posted by: ShannonKW at December 27, 2005 09:03 PM (dT1MB)

9 If even a substantial fraction of them took the Hellfire & Brimstone parts of Koran seriously, we'd be seeing human waves of thousands sweeping out of Gaza rather than the piddling handful of mortar rounds on alternate Fridays that we see now. Basically they were just waiting to see how we responded to 9/11 before launching the tsunami. The wave has been cancelled.

Posted by: Demosophist at December 28, 2005 04:52 AM (lH8jm)

10 The cleric is wasting his time. The Moroccan hostages are dead. Nothing has been heard from the captors for months. When Al Qaeda says they will kill their hostages, they mean it. What I don't understand is why they never issued a video shoing their executions or a statement saying they killed them. I believe they are dead though.

Posted by: George Ramos at December 28, 2005 09:14 AM (96heC)

11 I find it interesting that the media outlets and blogs rapidly declared the Ayman Al Zwahari memo as a forgery (introduced by evil Americans -- no doubt!) however since it's release the last victims of the insurgency were executed via gunshot, rather than beheading as instructed in the memo.

Posted by: dave at December 28, 2005 05:16 PM (CcXvt)

12 One hostage was beheaded. He worked for the Badr brigades. The Moroccan hostages were also probably beheaded but we'll never know since no video was produced.

Posted by: George Ramos at December 29, 2005 08:55 AM (Lp5Uh)

13 Agent Jones says that we're keeping an eye on Zowie-heerie.

Posted by: Agent Smith at December 31, 2005 02:11 AM (HuVhz)

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