March 17, 2005

Leadership Standards: Another Peeve

by Demosophist

On Bill Maher tonight I heard the host say something to the effect that "Well yeah, Bush had a list of reasons for invading Iraq and about the fourth one down had to do with regime change to rid the people of that brutal murderous dictator. But he obviously lied about everything else." And a similar bit of dissembling wisdom popped out the other night on Dennis Miller, from some panel guest whose name I have no good reason to recall. Well, I could waste time, as did David Horowitz on the Miller show, recounting how a lot of people made quite a big fuss about regime change and the "suffering of the Iraqi people." But I recall almost no one on the left saying anything like that, other than the usual suspects: Paul Berman (who wrote a book about it), Bernard Kouchner, and Chris Hitchens, as well as a few bloggers like Marc Danziger on Winds of Change. And all of those folks have subsequently been disowned and shunned by many of their ideological compatriots. Moreover, the democratic transformation of the Middle East was always my primary reason for supporting the invasion, no matter what the odds of success. (Just read my blog, if you doubt it.) It's true that I was concerned about WMD, but only to the extent that I was hugely relieved we were about to put that worry out of the way as well. And in all of the exhaustive and exhausting sessions I participated in on this topic with folks on the anti-war left, not one single person... not one single person, felt it remotely reasonable to suggest that a democratic transformation of the Middle East made sense, or had much merit even if it could be accomplished. Not one! It wasn't as though anyone said, as they're claiming now: " Yeah that objective would just be so-o-o-o worthwhile, but dammit Bush isn't being straight about his intentions, and if he were, well I'd be right behind him."

Nope, I don't recall anyone saying that.

So yeah, Maher and these others might have a point had they made it before March 2003, but they didn't.[1] Which means that their judgment on this matter just plain sucked. Sorry, but there's no other way to put it. And what's more, the evil Neocons were not only right, but they knew they were right from the start. And maintaining a position that is ultimately vindicated, in the face of massive social intimidaton, subjected to taunts of "Nazi" or "fascist" by former friends, etc.,... well, that's simply what leadership has always been about, since somebody erroneously credited the serpent with having a clue.

So now these folks, still whining in emphatic sidebars about their victimization in "the great deception," are leaping on the bandwagon... enthusiastically. Which would be fine I guess, except that they've overdoing it claiming that the transformation of the Middle East now looks like a done deal, just because the odds seem about even finally. And that's neither a sophomoric flip nor an over-the-hill flop, you know.

[1] Somone somewhere along the line must have made some anemic statement that Bush ought to trot out the pro-democracy argument more often, but not because they believed it. Rather, it was because they were certain it would be an easy argument to put down. Either that, or it just provided them an opportunity to jauntily affect an ironic smile at the silly notion that McChimpyBushHitlerHalliburton would be, of all things, pro-democracy. Ha. Ha.

(Cross-posted by Demosophist to Demosophia and Anticipatory Retaliation)

Posted by: Demosophist at 12:56 AM | Comments (9) | Add Comment
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1 But Bush is going to drill in the frozen wasteland of the north! How can you support someone that cares more for Middle Easterners and our own sovereignty than some large mammals to the north? I mean; freeing people whilst you destroy the earth beneath you, folly!

Posted by: Lune at March 17, 2005 06:14 AM (k56Dr)

2 Nice point out Rusty, but you might as well tell the whole quote from last fridays show in full. He also added in the next sentence that if they had just come out and told the forth point and said that it was their main reason to invade in the first place then more people would have not taken the opposition to the whole issue.

Posted by: Salamander at March 17, 2005 06:42 AM (W2YA6)

3 I've been there. It is a frozen wasteland. It will always remain frozen but doesn't have to continue being a waste.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 17, 2005 08:48 AM (DAWnL)

4 You know I figured out a long time ago that Bush was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. So it is so easy for Bill Maher (that fuckin prick) to say oh the fourth reason would have been better blah blah blah!!! Come on now do you think anything Bush has done or would have done would make any of those folks happy?

Posted by: joey at March 17, 2005 11:19 AM (a8b5N)

5 Nope!

Posted by: greyrooster at March 17, 2005 12:00 PM (CBNGy)

6 Actually, if memory serves correct, in the dying days of his second term, Clinton signed the Bill protecting the Alaskan refuge from drilling. For the vast majority of his term in office, he didn't try and protect it. Bush is simply returning the drilling option back on to the table. Oh, and it's a little too early to start crowing about vindication and success in Iraq. It's not really democracy at this point. Democracy (if such a thing can even flourish in a region chracterized by tribal interests for centuries) is when the coalition pulls out and people have a choice to choose from a truly universal range of governments (be they friendly to U.S. interests or not). And, as someone posted here once, I love how the "blogosphere" suddenly has the plethora of Middle East experts. Gimme a break.

Posted by: Venom at March 17, 2005 12:14 PM (dbxVM)

7 I know that a lot of people on the Left were concerned about the sanction's effects on women and children there for a decade. Unfortunately, people on the Right called them bleeding hearts for it. When it finally came down to brass tacks (do we invade alone or get the UN in there with us) everyone made fun of the Left again for wanting someone with us who actually knows a little about nation-building.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 17, 2005 01:29 PM (9qklm)

8 Where did the left gain this knowledge? From the UN?

Posted by: greyrooster at March 17, 2005 02:00 PM (CBNGy)

9 Jimbo, There is no 'UN'. The UN is a PLACE. We would NEVER have gotten UN approval because the UN is a place where nation's meet. Those nation's have different INTERESTS than we do. France and Russia had an interest in LIFTING the sanctions, thus that is what they supported. The US had an interest in tightening the sanctions, thus that is what we supported. The same with the war.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 17, 2005 02:21 PM (JQjhA)

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