1 Maybe he can send some the oil-for-food money the UN has stashed away.

2 Let's be reasonable here. Last fall when hurricanes devastated the southeast U.S. and took the lives of 50 some odd Americans, not to mention billions of dollars in damage to property, the international community spearheaded by the U.N. stepped right in and... er, nevermind.

3 http://kerryhaters.blogspot.com/ this guy posted Mr. Stingy's direct phone and fax number.

4 I'm must be one cold hearted biotch. If it were up to me, I wouldn't send a dime.

5 He should go to the Anan clan and ask for a few $Million from their Oil-for-food money. Then go to M. Moore. Then AFTER he has their money the US should match 0.01:1, or one cent on the dollar.

6 Here's my problem with giving money to Indonesia... The area is what, 88% muslim? They are burning Christian homes and farms, while the muslim authorities look the other way. So if I were to give, chances of any help reaching Christians is slim. I'm not even religiuous, I just have an issue helping people who would just as soon cut off my head, to make a religious statement.

7 That last comment made me feel sick. You don't think people deserve aid if they're Muslims? What should we do... give the money to all the Bhuddists and the Tamils but tell those closest to the quake to bugger off because 'you were born into the wrong religion'? Don't you even realise that in Aceh province the Christians kill the Muslims too? How black and white do you think the world is???

8 Kimberly, I don't know what rock you crawled from under but to not help an area of the world where 100,000 are presumed dead and many many thousands dead by a natural disaster irregardless of religion, race, or politics, you are no "Christian." Go back and hide under the rock, comments like yours make me ill. Cindy

9 I wonder how much aid for Indonesia is coming from other Muslim countries? Are they taking care of their own? Anyone heard from the French. How much aid is coming from the Frog pond. Am I an uncaring bastard for asking? Would Indonesia or Somalia help us in should things be turned around? Any dancing in the streets after 9/11. Should it matter? KIMBERLY, I for one understand what you are saying. You are not a bad person for letting your feelings come out. Conquering 1st feelings is hard because most of the time 1st feelings are correct. Yes they do teach hatred toward us in their Islamic schools. They teach that we are evil and terrible things should happen to America. Many in their country hope and pray that what happened to them will happen to us. If it does they will say, see God is punishing America for being so evil. However, we should take the high road and act better because we are better. As in Iraq. The job falls on those that can do the job. Just the way things are.

10 PS: I'm not a Christian. I just try to do what is right for me and mine. So I never do the Christian thing. I'm scared to death of them.

11 No No NO Martin. What PrincessKimberly said was she didn't think she ought to give money to help people who would like to kill her and her family. I'm afraid I've got to agree with that sentiment. Of course, not all the people who are affected by the Tsunami are murderous bastards, but here's a picture of a Sri Lanken proudly displaying his Bin Laden T-shirt. http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=51896117&cdi=0 Should we withhold aid? No. Should we be forced to give aid via the UN? Absolutely NOT! The UN could dry up and blow away and the world would be a much better place.

12 For all thoes who think we SHOULDENT send them aid, if it was you your opinion would be very different. And I think almost all of you are steriotypes. God get a life and a heart, even if your not Christian (and FYI I'm not either) we may be different counreys but we are also the same world. And even in this countrey, we all have different opinions, look at THIS web page if you need proof. People over there have thier own opinions to.

13 Princess Kimberley clearly stated she is not a Christian, and not even "religious." She is simply sharing her opinion, which is a valid one.

14 we do so much for the UN and they never give us any thanks or efforts of trying to make th US an easier job. They have to give to recieve.

1 I think it was jus a PR ploy. What the MSM calls a "photo op" Kofi is mad as H--- we went into Iraq for obvious financial reasons. Since it came out last month that members of his family were getting kickbacks in the "Food for Oil" boondogle; he and the MSM have been working on a campaign to convince us that he is really a "good" guy. If you buy that then you may believe that the homicide bombers ( whose families got between $10,000,000 and $25,000,000 of Sadam's kick backs) were spreading Allah's love. Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 Too critical of the oil for food swindler? Are you nuts? No one could be critical enough. Kofi Annon is a bum. Always has been and always will be. A crook is a crook. Enough of this crap of protecting the good name of the UN. It doesn't have a good name.

3 Rod, normally I'd agree it was a PR move, however usually in a PR move the key for making it work is to include the media. The statement was made by the White House Press Secretary. That's what makes this a bit odd to me and makes me believe there is something going on behind the scenes with the U.S. and U.N. Greyrooster, I realize it's hard to tell sarcasm in the written word, but imagine I inserted some there. I've been calling for his resignation since August when he entered into the political arena.

4 Sorry, Too much company today. Too many margaritas. Too much food. Too many stories. Too much Venom. Too much everything. Life is good. Just trying to enjoy it. Partying with friends. One more month until 1st grandson. 2 more months until my son comes back from Iraq. Two turkeys and one ham to cook. Forgive me for missing the obvious. Gotta go as everyone here says give it up for tonight. Sure hope I get a Penn International reel for Xmas. Going to peek when everyone goes to bed. Jim, James, Venom, kiss my ass. Everyone else have a good Xmas.

5 I realized I sounded too acusatory in my previous statement. I just meant that I should have elaborated more or left out sarcasm in the written word.

6 Chad, Kofi Annan is still a swindler, so is his son and his nephew and he has done nothing about the genocide going on in the Darfur region of the Sudan among many things. I believe like other old readers of this site that UN building should be bulldozed into the closest river in New York (look in archives) and either forget about having a UN or actually having one that will do the job it's supposed to do. Having his sidekick resigning today - so immediately - makes you wonder if that poor man did that to take the pressure off Kofi Annan or because he knew something. The UN is useless and so is Kofi Annan and it's been that way for too many years now. He has not stepped up to the plate and I doubt he ever will. Greyrooster: take a deep breath and try to relax and set your mind so that certain people don't get to you; it'll save your sanity my friend. And I would like to wish everyone a Happy Holiday, no matter what religion you are but please don't take 'CHRIST' out of Christmas. God Bless, Cindy

7 Greyrooster Grandkids are great! I love mine. Where did you go to boot? You think the way I do. Was it Daygo or LeJune? Do all Jareheads think the same way or what. We were all great!

8 Do we need anymore reason to tell the UN to get lost? i mean why do we have to put up with this bunch of idiots lets just tell them to get lost and be gone

9 HOW EASY THE IRAQI'S FORGET HOW LIFE WAS UNDER SADDAM HUSSEIN. by Dr. Jack Shepard__________________________________________________ _____________________________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_jack_shepard/ _________________________________________________Dr. Jack Shepard remembers consoling a father of one of the Children dying in Baghdad's Children's Hospital in March 2001; due to the lack of basic food supplements. by Dr. Jack Shepard Dr. Jack Shepard remebers consoling a father of one of the Children dying in Baghdad's Children's Hospital in March 2001; due to the lack of basic food supplements and adequate medicine, because Saddam Hussein choose to spend Billions of dollars of the Iraqi people money on himself. Dr. Shepard said presently the extremists in Iraq do not respect the uniqueness of each human as they were created by Allah. Dr. Shepard's repeats what the Prophet Mohammad said almost 1400 years ago, "this man will dwell in hell by his actions and this man will dwell in heaven by his." Basically what Dr. Shepard is saying that the teachings of Mohammad have been forgotten by the extremists and presently by their actions the extremists will be judged by the deeds and Allah will send them to dwell in Hell forever. The Prophet Mohammad teaching were based on submission to Allah; to do right and be granted eternal life. Dr. Shepard prayers for the day when the Iraqi people can get on with their lives. If the Iraqi People do not learn to respect each other and begin to speak out against the antisocial behavior and protest it the streets; the Iraqi people will never begin to be able to get on with their lives. To avert continued anarchy the mass of Iraqi People who really wish peace and happiness must speak out in the streets for peace, their silence to what is now happening only allows this twist and distorted situation where we find one Iraqi Brother killing another. This is only happening because many power-monger in the Iraqi population each wish to be an important power-mongers even if he has to kill his fellow Iraqi to establish their dominance as the new Iraqi leader. These people are truly people without a soul and do not fear Allah as the Prophet Mohammad taught. They are creating an environment for themselves where they will never see heaven. I and the world grow weary that this rebellious attitude has now become a fad. Presently in all truth many Iraqi's have become real mindless hypocrites by not stopping and protesting this new generation of power-mongers who are beginning to kill each other in ever greater numbers because they are set on ruling Iraq but reject the world trying to help their fellow Iraqi who are dying and starving because of their inhuman behavior. May Allah Bless Iraq and the Iraqi People with Peace and Happiness. This will only happen when the Average Iraqi man on the street cry out remember Allah you my brothers of Iraq. You must stop this evil behavior or you will dwell in the fires of Hell forever. Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace group www.shepardusgov.com, www.care2.com/c2c/group/People_for_Peace_Group Click on image for a larger version http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_jack_shepard/

10 Chad, you're doing fine!

11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR. JACK SHEPARD'S VIDEO WARNING IRAQI SUICIDE BOMBERS THAT THEY GO TO HELL NOT HEAVEN, Visit www.shepardusgov.com By Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace Group. Hello let us all pray for Peace. I have made a 2.5 minute video Warning the Iraqi Suicide Bombers to beware; if they kill themselves they go to Hell not Heaven. Please visit www.shepardusgov.com to see my Video warning to the Iraqi Insurgents. If my message gets somehow to the Iraqi Insurgents and the Palestinian Suicide Bombers, and they learn what they do is against the Koran I think they will stop. Then God willing we will have Peace In Israel and Iraqi and Love and Peace will have a chance. Please copy my CD if anyone wishes TO HELP SPREAD THESE WORDS TO THE SUICIDE BOMBERS BEFORE THEY KILL THEMSELVES AND MANY OTHER POOR INNOCENT PEOPLE. Then take it to your local TV Station to play for 2.5 minutes to stimulate a discussion about Suicide Bombing as a Weapon of War. Please advise the TV station after they play my brief 2.5 minute video. I would suggest that the TV station organizes to have a group of religious scholars from all faiths give their opinion what each religion teaches its followers about Suicide. May God Bless the World with Love and Peace Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace To contact Dr. Shepard with ideas or comments Email: middle.east@flashnet.it The ORIGINAL text (to use in translation into Arabic) of Dr.Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace Group's warning to the Insurgent suicide bombers. My brothers in Iraqi I pray for you; I am Dr. Jack Shepard founder of People for Peace (to use in translation into Arabic) I warn the militant insurgents in Iraq you are now fighting and killing mostly innocent Iraqi men, women, and children, you do not fear Allah, if you continue to obey the evil publishing of fatwa (edicts) by Iraqi religious leaders. These edicts are blaspheme against Allah and Prophet Muhammad, you defy the divine assertions that the Quran is complete, perfect, fully detailed, and shall be the only source of religious guidance Prophet Muhammad stated in very strong words, against issuing any religious teachings besides the Quran. Fatwa were never authorized by Allah or the Prophet Muhammad, edicts are not the Word of God. Presently many of the scholars in Iraq are engaging in major acts of disbelief by issuing these edicts. Believing in Allah means to believe Him and accept His teaching and His word. Choosing the scholars or the dictionary over Allah reflects a disbelief in Allah and His word (Quran). We each are living out Allah’s plan; Allah knew each of us before we were born. What ever we do we can not hide it from Allah. As Mohammad once said this one, by his actions was made for Paradise and this one, by his actions was made for the fire of Hell. The Jihad Organizations lie to the insurgents. These Organizations are led by these misguided individuals that only increase the tribulations of the entire Muslim community by not telling to young insurgents that suicide bombings according to the Quran guarantees punishment “in the fire of hell, wherein they shall dwell forever.” Suicide bombing by young uninformed Muslim youths had been carried out almost routinely as a mean of revenge in the Iraq conflict. These suicide bombers created an intolerable situation, no permission can be found in Islam to avengence by suicide bombing or by targeting the innocent civilians. These young desperate Muslim youth have been taught what is NOT in the Quran, and what was never promised by Allah. I pray my brothers in Iraq remember these things before Allah announces his verdict on you, presently only those who do not fear Allah are blocking the ability of ordinary Iraqi’s to take control of their own country These fatwa (edicts) are presently causing limitless grief and sadness for your brothers in Iraq. You militant insurgents who blindly obey these fatwa (edicts) have created a monstrous and inhumane situation unnecessarily in Iraq by killing and harming mostly your fellow Muslim Brothers if you continue your actions you will be made for the fires of hell.. My Iraqi brother l still hope and pray for you. I only can Warn the Iraqi insurgents; stop killing your brothers Unfortunately most of the men, women and children who you are hurt and killed most often have nothing to do with anything but are just ordinary Iraqi trying to live, praying for their nightmare to end. Those of you that follow these fatwa (edicts) how can you call your actions acts of resistance, all your doing is maximizing the suffering of your Muslim brothers in Iraq. In the name of Allah stop. Allah sees all. Presently you have to understand your actions are not right-doing for the Iraqi men, women and children that you are killing and maiming by exploding cars and bombs in the streets or shooting mortar or grenade launchers into the crowded streets. You militant insurgents want to the American Coalition to go home; call a truce and learn to love your neighbors; as people made for Paradise would, and at that moment, the Coalition will immediately begin to start going home. Fear Allah! How can you call your actions acts of resistance, all your doing is maximizing the suffering of the Iraqi people, suirely you do not fear Allah. Istill hope and pray for you.. I, myself pray that Allah blesses Iraq and the Middle East with Peace. Allah made us all, do not be blinded by these blashme of these Edicts or fataw's these Coalition soldiers or Iraqi Policeman were all created by Allah. They have wives, children and families just like you. They would be happier than you to soon be able to return home to their families and loved ones, as you would be happier to return to your families and a normal life. We have to remember if we break Allah's law, by obeying false lord’s fatwa (edicts) we move ourselves away from Allah's mercy and support. Allah is send upon you humiliation and Allah will not remove it from you until you return to (practicing) Islam (correctly),” Only when you stop killing our brothers and exploding cars in the streets, the kidnapping and murder of people in a manner which contradicts the teachings of the Prophet Mohammad. You insurgents have to remember there is nothing holy about a war in Islam. If we call a truce with your brother Iraqi's the sooner the American Coalition force will have to leave Iraqi soil, ending their occupation and give you the control of their destiny. In the name of Allah:end this slaughter of thousands of your innocence Iraqi brothers both men, women and children immediately. Fear Allah In the name of Allah: stop doing what is not pleasing to Allah or surely you will dwell in the fires of Hell for ever. Allah is all knowing and seeing. By Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace

1 You're damm right were Lockean. When Lee, Franklin and Jefferson wrote - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." They werr paraphrasing Lock. An I believe this way as well. Regarding Cromwell he knew that a dead enemy will never hurt you. Guess what I agree with that as well. 37 years ago I told the men with me "Kill 'em, if they are as nasty as I am they will squeeze the trigger with their last breath - and then you will be dead!" I disagree with the idea that straping on a bomb is cowardly. I think it takes great courage. But it is just another reason why I want these guys to get their 72 willing virgins now! Rod Stanton Cerritos

2 Beautiful. Thoughtful.

3 Since the British education system outscores the USA one in OECD tables our lack of knowledge of the 'Whig Rebellion' can't be blamed on a poor (deficient) education system. If you could explain concisely what the whig rebellion is, I am sure I can explain why we do not know about it No idea who Oliver Protector is either. I assume you mean Oliver Cromwell whose position was Lord Protector?

4 Oliver Protector was the full name of "Cousin Oliver" who joined the Brady Bunch in its last year.

5 Since the British education system outscores the USA one in OECD tables our lack of knowledge of the 'Whig Rebellion' can't be blamed on a poor (deficient) education system. I'm not sure the "score" matters so much as the systematic and intentional omission by a decidedly non-Lockean education establishment, who would probably just as soon you knew nothing about it. If you could explain concisely what the whig rebellion is, I am sure I can explain why we do not know about it Well, I doubt that Beer was exactly uninformed, so perhaps the onus is on you? I'm not sure, however, that it's necessarily a particular event so much as an era that stretched from the "Civil Warre" to, and through, the American Revolution... and that ultimately so redefined the relationship between individual and state sovereignty that it not only resulted in the first nation elevating the meantenance of individual sovereingty to the defining purpose of the state, enshrinig it in a Bill of Rights, but it also at least partly defined the long struggle between Parliament and the King, ending in a Constitutional Monarchy and Parliamentary Democracy. "Whig," is really another term for "classical liberal." And it really doesn't surprise me at all that a nation that undermines its citizens' the right of self-defense in their own homes wouldn't be too keen to put much emphasis on the historical role of classical liberalism in its education system. No idea who Oliver Protector is either. I assume you mean Oliver Cromwell whose position was Lord Protector? Yes, Cromwell. I suppose one of the definitive books on the era is Lady Antonia's, and she refers to him as "Oliver Protector," which was apparently also common usage at the time. The Puritans frequently combined surnames with title or postion within the hierarchy, so that usage doesn't really surprise me.

6 I disagree with the idea that straping on a bomb is cowardly. I think it takes great courage. But it is just another reason why I want these guys to get their 72 willing virgins now! Well, I've heard people describe suicide as a "permanent solution to a temporary problem," and that's what I mean by cowardice. To resolve one's problems, or the problems of one's society, through suicide, is to fail to face life. It's not cowardly in a physical sense, perhaps... but in a moral sense.

7 demo do you read Orsson Scott Card? Rod

8 demo do you read Orsson Scott Card? A couple of times. Not on a regular basis though. I read this. He seems to "have the spirit." Victor Davis Hanson is a favorite. And, of course, Seymour Martin Lipset.

9 Antonia Fraser's book: "Oliver - Our Chief of Men" (a title given to OC by John Milton)is surely NOT the definitive book on Cromwell? As a OC fan, I found it too much of an eulogy, like it was all easy for him. He was a much troubled man who struggled to find the right way to make England good. A better book is 'God's Englishman" by Christopher Hill. It will give you a much better understanding of the Political,Moral,Religious and Intellectual culture of Cromwell's time as well as a better understanding of OC's nature and abilities. (it's written by a Marxist though! - shock horror!!) Fraser's book tends to make him too much of a personality cult. There are also many newer books on Cromwell. One of these is "Cromwell - an Honourable Enemy" by a modern Irish historian, Tom Reilly. It dispells some silly myths about OC in Ireland. Alternatively, find 'The Cromwell Association' via Google and you'll find a very good biblography on OC and his times on their site. A great man who had a much underestimated effect on the development of the modern world. Didn't those wicked revolutionaries, Washington and Robespierre both carry copies of a biography of Cromwell with them? After a bit of a read of few good histories, you'll be able to see that statements like: "..a group of radicals around during that period called the Fifth Monarchists, who were the seventeenth century forerunners of the Phalange.." are complete nonsense. More paranoia than History! Ok, they were a bit mad but not at all evil like the Phalange, and when they did get into a position of power, as in the Little or "Barebones" Parliament where they had a considerable representation, they lasted three months, quickly realising themsleves that they were a bit bonkers and that their political ideas just didn't work and did great harm, they resigned the Parliament to the Protector! I don't thing Facists like the Phalange were so honest or so ready to give up power!!

10 Richard: Thanks for the reading recommendations, I'll check them out. It may well be that Protestant warrior extremism had already been partially defanged by earlier developments, but the Fifth Monarchists do seem to have had an ideology at least nominally similar to that of the Phalange, though it lacked some of the idelogical connections to other extremist movements. Eli Berman has written some good stuff recently on religious extremism and it would be interesting to compare his observations with some of the movements from that period.