Seems to me the common thread to all this is that some person(s) gets upset. Then, rather than use their speech, they pull the good old 3rd grade trick, “
” So Google responds to those complaints because… well, that’s what corporations do. Rather than risk (the money) taking a stand you always attempt to make the whiner happy or at least make him think you did.
The overriding interest of the company is to get the whiner to STFU. All other concerns are secondary. IÂ’m not sure Google is leaning either way. The reason the right gets this treatment may be because some have a talent for/habit of running to mommy when they donÂ’t get their way. There just are not many of those folks on the right.
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That's why I no longer use Google. I use Yahoo for everything and frankly I get better hits.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 04:48 PM (8e/V4)
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Damn, I could have used that advice, but instead I got stuck like a pathetic blood-sucking parasite, leeching onto the very first blog ( JawaReports ) that came into my Google sites! Like a good parasite I am doomed to remain, never seeking greener pastures until my present host is sucked dry, withers and expires ... life might have been so different ....
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 22, 2006 05:07 PM (FCC6c)
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Larry,
that's because Google will always direct you to rightwing sites if you're looking for 'racists', 'hate mongers', 'war criminals', etc.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 05:15 PM (8e/V4)
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I think it was a search on " muslim " or " muhammed caricatures " which turned my life around and put it on the ill-fated fast track of full foaming frontal frothing blogging.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 22, 2006 05:36 PM (FCC6c)
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I can't speak for Google, but I would certainly be unwilling to be a company giving a voice to sites that propgate comments regularly calling for all out Civil War, murder of anybody deemed to "liberal", and endless racism.
If you don't think that sort of comment is orthogonal to your site, ax the posters who make them and let them go somewhere like Stormfront where they're welcome (maybe, since even Stormfront won't tolerate most calls for violence).
If you think that the comments accurately reflect the spirit of the site, then deal with the fact that your views are extreme and will be relegated. Google is under no obligation to give you a voice, so if your voice is unwelcome by digital society - which it must be unless Google is making poor business decisions, which is not a conclusion borne out by the facts - deal with the fact that your painting yourself into a corner by hosting and encouraging extremist thinking.
Seems to me that the only whiners here, then, are the ones complaining that they're being relegated to a minority status in a society where they ARE a minority status.
You have every right to speak (though the extreme, violent rhetoric very likely is illegal in most cases), but you have no right to any private channel you want.
As a random aside, the content filter on this site is atrocious and needs some major retooling. It just blocked my comment because it contained "h0st com" as part of "h0st comments".
Posted by: TxMxP at May 22, 2006 06:02 PM (ZNd6p)
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TxMxP: The Jawa Report is carried as a news site by Google, but perhaps you might get some perspective by reading the comments at say, DailyKos or Democratic Underground.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at May 22, 2006 06:28 PM (RHG+K)
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TxMxP,
seems to me you'd rather be living in China, or Liberal lalaland. My preference is for freedom, and a search engine that doesn't make those decisions based on the ideology of its owners but rather on my search specifications as well as the popularity of the particular website.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 06:47 PM (8e/V4)
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txmfp: You idiot this is the Jawa report. We report on the Jawas and what they are doing. If you don't like our reports move your butt to some liberal, crybaby site that we more suit your ideas. People seem to forget this is the JAWA REPORT. May I suggest your read jawas explained to the left of screen.
I hate the muslim animals causing so much misery in this world. THIS MAKES ME A RACIST, BIGOT, ETC: Proud to be one.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 07:09 PM (pSK/I)
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None the less Google only acted on complaints. And I'm not racist. I don't care if you are white, black, arab or orange. I don't care if you are Christian Jew or Muslim. What I care about is terrorism. My highly unfavorable negative opinion is due to their actions only. Stop terror and I go home. Peoples relationship whith their god is none of my business unless it leads them to try and kill me and my countymen. After that well, All is fair in love and war.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 07:34 PM (D3+20)
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>>TxMxP: The Jawa Report is carried as a news site by Google, but perhaps you might get some perspective by reading the comments at say, DailyKos or Democratic Underground.
KoS and kin have a number of truly absurd and idiotic posts, on the same level as LGF, Freep, etc. Rarely, however, do they devolve into discussions calling for homegrown genocide and terrorism. They seem content to keep their spittle-laced ranting to calling neocons "stupid". LGF, as an example of a hate site which Google has continually refused to carry, routinely houses discussions threatening indiscriminate violence within the mainland and calls for ethnic cleansing. Treating LGF "stories" as valid news would be of no practical difference from carrying anti-semetic Stormfront content as "news".
Google is making a smart business decision by not treating such disgusting gibberish as "news".
>>seems to me you'd rather be living in China, or Liberal lalaland. My preference is for freedom, and a search engine that doesn't make those decisions based on the ideology of its owners but rather on my search specifications as well as the popularity of the particular website.
Google carries LGF and all the other "whining" sites in its search results. It does not carry them in its news section, because they are not news sites.
In fact, the only problem with Google's news section is that it still carries far too much psuedo-news as it is.
>>txmfp: You idiot this is the Jawa report.
Thank you for taking the time to post such an intelligent retort. Excuse me for not reading past the first sentence, but I was afraid the rest of it might have something on the same general IQ level as "borderline retarded" and the sudden contrast could blind me.
As a point of reference, THAT was an insult, your pedestrian nonsense was merely an embarassing display of testicular shriveling. In the future, if you're going to expend the energy pounding at your keyboard like that, do at least do everyone the service of making it entertaining, since you've apparently forfeited any attempt to make it meaningful.
Posted by: TxMxP at May 22, 2006 07:37 PM (ZNd6p)
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What Rooster said. But with more hatred for muslims and libturds.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 22, 2006 07:40 PM (0yYS2)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 07:56 PM (8e/V4)
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Dear Mr. Temp. So do you work for a temp agency? Just trying to figure that out. Yes, welcome to the smokey pool room of the internet.
#2 yahoo search for pedestrian nonsense
http://forums.men.style.com/thread.jspa?messageID=86361
I think you missed your pick of sites there Temp man.
The derogatory connotation of pedestrian derives from class discrimination in england. I'm correct on that right? Just so we all know that we lower classes can comprehend your subtle weak insult there.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 08:17 PM (D3+20)
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Such is the red-brown-green alliance. This tactic isn’t new, but has gained new life since MarKOS accused the right of having a “noise machine,” an organization dedicated to protesting out unflattering news. When you’re convinced ‘the other side is doing it,’ just about anything can then be justified in closing the gap.
The part about them conspiring with Moveon for Internet regulation legislation is the most dangerous aspect for liberty. The code for Google News is open-source, so anyone can compete with little capital necessary, but Internet regulation, especially if it has a provision against "hate speech," could push anti-jihad rhetoric, or anything abhorrent to the red-brown-green alliance, deep into the shadows.
Posted by: Typewriter King at May 22, 2006 08:21 PM (qjJ88)
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I yahoo it's good stuff. Google too. Yahoo brings it to you google you go after it. Googles tools are cool too if not exactly user friendly.
Posted by: Howie at May 22, 2006 08:23 PM (D3+20)
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Little does that little shithead know.
Anyway. A report on the 4 mexicans I hired yesterday. We had breakfast at started to work about 8:00. Showed mondo how to drive tractor and drive metal posts with front in loader. By 10:00 AM they ran me off saying they no longer needed me in the way. Had to go to Biloxi to pick up more field fence and t-posts. Returned at 1:30 PM to find all line posts and corner posts installed on west side of west pasture. Ready to pull field fence. They had the brains to copy the front fence exactly. Fence in perfectly straight for 1200 ft. Concreted posts will be ready tomorrow.
Wife said she didn't think they stopped for lunch. They said they didn't want to stop because it would be hotter later. Knocked them off at 3:00. Gave them a ice chest full of Dos Equis and sodas. They went to the river for awhile and relaxed. I went out to check the new cows as some are calving. They had cleaned out the water troughs and were sweeping the barn on their own. I asked if they needed an advance on their wages. They replied they had plenty of money as they have been working here for 8 weeks.
They are from Chihuahua. Where ever that is. Now I understand how these guys make it. You have to respect these guys. They smile all the time. Being normally anti immigration I am now rethinking the guest worker idea. Two weeks with these guys and I'll have my place back to pre Katrina. Without the trees.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 08:23 PM (pSK/I)
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TxMxP: I don't understand why you bother to read and comment on this site if you don't approve of it. It's a free country!
And so far, a free web! move on! (no pun intended) and find another site.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at May 22, 2006 08:32 PM (aH6Zf)
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txmxp: If you check the archives you will find at least 10 exactly worked paragraphs like the one you wrote above. Do you liberal assholes have a certain book you read before turning your computer on? Same replys from different libturds. Bunch of friggin clones. Nothing ever new from them. Just one replaces the last with the same crap almost verbatim.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 22, 2006 08:35 PM (pSK/I)
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"LGF, as an example of a hate site which Google has continually refused to carry, routinely houses discussions threatening indiscriminate violence within the mainland and calls for ethnic cleansing. Treating LGF "stories" as valid news would be of no practical difference from carrying anti-semetic Stormfront content as "news"."
TxMxP: Are you freaking kidding? I assume you mean littlegreenfootballs. There certainly are hateful comments made, but I see a lot more comments about botany and homemade cookies.
Are we reading the same site?
Posted by: fluffy the spamhound! at May 22, 2006 08:46 PM (ZB+tY)
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rooster,
that's the silver lining to the Mexico invasion. They are hard working, generally christian (not muslim), and morally conservative and anti-pudding, etc. If they assimilate they'll make fantastic citizens and taxpayers-- unless the Libtards get to them first and turn them into victims. In that case this country will go further into decline.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 22, 2006 08:48 PM (8e/V4)
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TxMxP-
1. We're at war
2. We didn't attack them, they attacked us.
3. Hate is part of our instinct for self-preservation
and as such enables us to stay alive.
4. The word for a culture that can't (or won't)
use their hate to defend itself is "defeated"
There's a season for all things, and it's the season of
war. We'll live or die by our ability to hate.
Here's a news flash for you. The hate you see here is ugly to be sure. Not so ugly though as having to bow to those who would bring about our end though. Or to lose your head for not bowing.
Personally, I think that the left wingers would be the first to bow down, because they never had any steel to begin with. Just sophistry. Pity the liberal. They are truly empty.
Posted by: jamsler at May 22, 2006 09:10 PM (VqA/E)
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I think the head whiner has a name.
Al Gore Junior
He owns 50 mil in stock in Google.
Posted by: RepJ at May 22, 2006 09:29 PM (pTcGU)
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JC:
"anti-pudding"
lol! Followed by coffe through the nose.
Posted by: Oyster at May 23, 2006 02:46 AM (YudAC)
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That's my point Rooster; most Mexicans I've met, to about the 99th percentile, are the nicest, friendliest, most hard-working people you could ask for, and if the Mexican government wasn't so corrupt, I'd move there when I retire. Plus,
real Mexican food is only rivalled by Indian or Lebanese in its deliciosity. Deliciosity is a word, isn't it? Well it is now.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at May 23, 2006 05:24 AM (0yYS2)
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Seems that Googles news is filtering Jawa too. Jawa is in the news search, but this post is missing.
Posted by: Fred Fry at May 23, 2006 05:38 AM (JXdhy)
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>>The derogatory connotation of pedestrian derives from class discrimination in england. I'm correct on that right? Just so we all know that we lower classes can comprehend your subtle weak insult there.
Don't act like a buffoon and you won't be treated like one. I can tolerate a difference in intelligence since I wouldn't want the many people out there who are smarter than me to look down on me for god-given traits I can't control anymore than you would. What I refuse to tolerate is willful ignorance, which is what this site is made of.
In other words, if you really are an idiot, I apologize for making a point of it. If, however, as I suspect, you are merely acting like an idiot, feel free to stop and I'll be happy to provide the appropriate level of respect. It takes a few moments to become tacitly familiar with most conversation topics in this day and age. I don't think it's that you're not equipped to do that, it's that you choose not to.
>>TxMxP: I don't understand why you bother to read and comment on this site if you don't approve of it. It's a free country!
Why shouldn't I? I have better things to do than sit around in an echo chamber with people who are just stroking my ego. It really doesn't mean much to have a position on something if all you're going to do is talk about it with people who will always agree with you.
>>Here's a news flash for you. The hate you see here is ugly to be sure. Not so ugly though as having to bow to those who would bring about our end though. Or to lose your head for not bowing.
If you think the best way to fight is out of blind rage, you must lose a lot of fights. The biggest mistake you could possibly make against a competent opponent, regardless of the battlefield, is to lose your head, do something rash, and wind up getting everybody killed. In fact, one of the things any competent teacher will teach you about a fight is not to be put off by apparently wild and random flailing. An experienced opponent will immediately recognize it, wait for you to wear out or open a hole, and knock your teeth right down your throat.
If you didn't think your way to the solution, you don't have one, and if you execute your plan your only hope is that luck is on your side.
Posted by: TxMxP at May 23, 2006 06:29 AM (gOPcw)
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Fred,
Google does filter Jawa, that's why I switched to Yahoo. I prefer my search engines ideology free.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 08:15 AM (8e/V4)
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I'm thinking of starting a company. I want me to make the descisions strait up like my post. I want TxMxP to supply the bullshit at press conferences.
Posted by: Howie at May 23, 2006 09:12 AM (D3+20)
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TxMxP-
To have a hatred of the enemy is not the same as lashing out blindly (flailing). The hate that I refer to is the hard heart it takes to win a fight. I've never advocated genocide or indiscriminate killing, nor will I. I don't know how old you are or how much you have conversed with those who were alive during WW2, but it seems to me that they had the proper mind-set to win a war. And a big part of that is a hate so deeply instilled that for many it hasn't ceased from that day to this. In war we must lower ourselves nearly to the enemy's level or else they will prevail.
Sooner or later I think, the islamic enemy's actions will incur the hatred of the American public. Only then will this war end.
Oh yeah, TxMxP I've been in a few fights and still have my full set of teeth.
Posted by: jamsler at May 23, 2006 10:38 AM (ZVOFa)
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>>In war we must lower ourselves nearly to the enemy's level or else they will prevail.
I don't recall the U.S. setting up gas chambers to murder millions of innocent Japanese immigrants during WWII...
Posted by: TxMxP at May 23, 2006 11:10 AM (gOPcw)
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Google blows:
"Search engine giant Google has cut off its news relationship with a number of online news publications that include frank discussions of radical Islam – the New Media Journal becoming the latest termination, as its owner just discovered."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50323
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 23, 2006 11:39 AM (8e/V4)
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Gas chambers?, yeah the H-bomb pretty much trumped the need for gas chambers. Remember Iwo Jima? Not much left to gas after that.
Indeed the war will end when the American public is fed up and realizes it is in a serious tooth and nail fight for it's life. That's when the practically minded will outweigh the " goody-goody " mentality and the first round of nukes will begin to set things right.
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at May 23, 2006 12:14 PM (FCC6c)
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TxMxP-
Nor do I. And I don't see any gas chambers today, either. Seems like the only ones committing mass murder are the islamists, the ones you seem to be inclined to defend.
Posted by: jamsler at May 23, 2006 02:47 PM (ZVOFa)
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txmxp. The difference between an educated punk and a punk is very little. Punk.
Posted by: greyrooster at May 23, 2006 05:05 PM (BEvWK)
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>>Seems like the only ones committing mass murder are the islamists, the ones you seem to be inclined to defend.
I fail to see why I need to defend Muslims. Being a Muslim isn't inherently a bad thing.
Of course, if you meant to conflate terrorists with Muslims, I wouldn't know. I don't conflate the two anymore than I conflate the KKK and Protestants.
>>txmxp. The difference between an educated punk and a punk is very little. Punk.
You know, Dirty Harry was a stupid movie. Clint Eastwood did far better elsewhere.
Posted by: TxMxP at May 23, 2006 07:02 PM (ZNd6p)
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>>>Of course, if you meant to conflate terrorists with Muslims, I wouldn't know. I don't conflate the two anymore than I conflate the KKK and Protestants.
Isn't it odd then how Liberals DO appear to equate muslims with terrorists when they say terrorism is the result of U.S. policies in Arab lands. The conclusion: that terrorists are acting on behalf of the legitimate interests of those Arab lands (and presumably its people). So who's really conflating terrorists with Muslims? Not conservatives. Liberalism is such a mess. It's amazing it can survive with so many internal contradictions. That's one of them.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at May 24, 2006 09:03 AM (8e/V4)
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