Okay, so, Jill Carrol arranges her own kidnapping with her Islamist buddies, hangs out with them for three months, gnawing on falafel and gettin' funky with that down home Ashura thang, you know, chips dips chains and whips. Or she realizes the Sunni really does rise in the East, and bows down whenever the hell Achmed says it's time, because, well, she left her watch back in the room. Or maybe she just likes Kurds with her whey.
Wow, that's some anti-American sentiment right there. That's right up there with ole Giuliana Srgena. Nay, dare I say it? That is downright....Nazi propaganda.
If you want to be judged as a journalist, ok, well, I think you suck at it. If you wanted fairness and accuracy, you would have gone out like Ralph Peters did and rode with the troops. You didn't, you rode with your translator, and now he's dead and you're an ex-hostage.
But I'm going to judge you as a hostage, despite your plea. You did what you needed to do with a gun to your head. You said what you said, and wrote what you wrote, under duress. You wore the hijab as ordered, you conductecd yourself in the manner which was prescribed for you.
Not because you're some inane leftard moonbat (although you may be, but, that's irrelevant) but because you wanted to live. And the desire to live overpowers everything we do in the course of our days. Even, yes, our basic ideology.
5 minutes with Schlussel in my basement, and I'd have her singing the praises of Stalin. It's just that simple.
Could you see the blog titles on that one? "Schlussel endorses Stalin." "Schlussel embraces Marxism." "Schlussel says: Lenin, not such a bad guy after all."
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of people sitting behind a computer trying to divine the intuitions of someone thousands of miles away. People who do it like Schlussel does it are no different that buzzards circling a decaying corpse.
BTW, I just have to wonder if Schlussel would have even bothered to post anything if Jill Carrol's headless body had appeared on a Baghdad street one day.
We at the Jawa Report do, and always will, hope for the release of all hostages held by Islamofascistpricks. Better to celebrate the release of one Giuliana than to lament 10 Nick Bergs.
F.E.T.E.
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Nope. Don't buy it for a second. Anyone who isn't a complete idiot can tell which way the wind is blowing. If she wants to sell that book/movie deal, she's gotta have a sympathetic market. Call me a cynic, but
cynic is the opposite of
sucker.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at April 02, 2006 07:32 AM (0yYS2)
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Oh, ye of little faith and reading comprehension skills. I never mentioned the video, only these facts, which remain the same.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/04/premature_artic.html
Jill Carroll's an extremist. And you apparently have a problem with premature articulation. Next time, read first.
You got something wrong, though. More than thirty seconds in a room with you, and I think I'd have to kill you.
Debbie Schlussel
Posted by: Debbie Schlussel at April 02, 2006 01:04 PM (Awh+P)
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Uh, actually Jill Carroll DID travel with U.S. troops as a journalist for a month. The captain of the company was even quoted by the CSM shortly after her release and he spoke pretty well of her.
BTW, how many of you have actually read her articles? I'm sure some of you have, but I only detect a moderately liberal slant. And no, she did not portray Iraqi officials in a necessarily favorable light nor did she paint the insurrection in glowing terms. Suffering civilians appeared to be the burr in her saddle.
Posted by: David at April 02, 2006 01:24 PM (wZLWV)
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Nothing that anybody says while a gang of fanatical thugs stand behind them sharpening their scimitars counts for anything at all.
When your head is about to roll you tend to co-operate.
Jill Carroll may well be an extremist (she's a journalist after all), but she did what 99.999% of people would have done in those circumstances.
Including Brave Debbie Schlussel.
Posted by: Martin at April 02, 2006 01:30 PM (7T22U)
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You got something wrong, though. More than thirty seconds in a room with you, and I think I'd have to kill you.
With what? The exploding Silicone Implants Of Doom? Or would you grab a trowel and remove the makeup.
That would scare the piss out of me.
Sounds threatening, maybe I need to hire a lawyer.
Posted by: Vinnie at April 02, 2006 02:08 PM (/qy9A)
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Wow Vinnie.
That saggy titted, sow faced shithead Schlussel just threatened to kill you. I would pass that little tidbit on to the FBI.
Oh wait, she gives regular freebie blow jobs to the FBI so they probably wonÂ’t arrest her.
Anyway, I sure that was a warning not a threat. I suspect she meant that if she were in a room for more than thirty seconds with you, the stench emanating from her crotch would kill you.
Posted by: Ranger 6 at April 02, 2006 03:33 PM (o+/cZ)
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Debbie Schlussel - Definitely, we should "call the fbi" on her - as she threatened to do to me. . The beeatch thinks that anyone who disagrees with her on anything should be in jail. Bwaaaahahahahaha
Posted by: Beth Donovan at April 02, 2006 04:10 PM (9FPYz)
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Really, why aren't you on medication? You're the right's version of the unhinged moonbat. Quit pretending to be right of center--you are an embarrassment, distressingly like Fred Phelps. We're all tired of your deranged, negative bloviating. Is there ANYTHING you actually support?
While I will note there are profound areas of disagreement between my views and many who post here... I applaud the intellectual honesty of those who call out the purveyors of manufactured outrage. It shows me there is reason to hope we will finally stop gravitating towards the extremist poles and lobbing grenades at each other.
Nobody's going to have any "reading comprehension" problems with that crack.
Goddamned nutcase.
I will forego the obvious jokes that such comments call to mind... I have never heard of Debbie Schlussel. However, a couple minutes on her site and it is clear she is a low frequency in the echo chamber ...seeking to till the same fields where Malkin and Coulter run wild ... she isn't worth commenting on further.
On to a more substative matter:
Vinnie and I see eye to eye on virtually nothing... so the areas of agreement are notable.
The point he makes, which is particularly worth noting by those on the left, is the fact that most American soldiers see their mission as protecting Americans...without regard for race, sex, religion or creed.
As I have noted before, it was the US Army that found evidence of death squads operating in the Interior Ministry basement. It was Maj. General Joseph Peterson who provided the
first official confirmation that death squads are operating within the Iraqi police force.
I believe there is a material distinction between the leadership of Gen. Petraeus and Gen. Peterson, as significant as the difference between Westmoreland and Abrams. Unfortunately, I think it is too late to change the reality on the ground...things have spun so far out of control over the last year and a half.
However, the point worth remembering...especially as reports of torture and abuse continue to build... those who participate or condone such behavior deserve to be punished. Those who have the courage to reveal or rebuke such behavior deserve our support. Remember, the only reason we even heard about Abu Gharib was a young sargeant from a small town in Maryland knew this was not what he was there to do. He and his family have paid dearly for that.
They have been the victims of harassment in their community. They have been shunned by friends and neighbors. Their property has been vandalized, and they now reside in protective military custody at an undisclosed location. On May 16th 2005, he received a John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award, recognizing his bravery in uncovering the abuse at Abu Ghraib.
That is the kind of soldier that Americans should be proud of. They are a clear concrete example of why I am so opposed to the present administration. The policy makers of this administration are not worthy of the men and women who serve them.
Posted by: 8ackgr0und N015e at April 02, 2006 04:11 PM (K5Ko+)
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Oh wait, she gives regular freebie blow jobs to the FBI so they probably wonÂ’t arrest her.
Freebie blow jobs? Who would ever do that?
Posted by: Feisty at April 02, 2006 05:38 PM (HYxlu)
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Debbie Does The Blogosphere strikes again. It's reactionary feces flinging idiots like her that makes me want to give up blogging and politics completely.
Vinnie, do us all a favor and use amend the post with basil's handy link redirect trick. I hate to think of Debbie getting off on the referrals from My Pet Jawa.
(Sorry for any visual images that might have produced. Feel free to poke out your mind's eye now.)
Posted by: Janette at April 02, 2006 05:44 PM (OcgcA)
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Schlussel's a pathetic propagandist. She keeps using words like "documented" to mean "in a previous post I vaguely inferred". She uses racist nicknames for
white United States attorneys she doesn't like. She throws out words like "Islamist", simply flaunting her ignorance of what that ideology is or means.
You're smart to disassociate yourself from such a wack-job.
Posted by: Dan Hartung at April 02, 2006 06:12 PM (WVHXm)
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Hah, I'm using Basil's redirect link for her too. LOL.
Posted by: Donnah at April 02, 2006 08:13 PM (1q3hZ)
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Wow Debbie Schlussel you threatened the life of one of my friends (Vinnie) who is also my Blog brother. Debbie you are totally fucked up! I knew that before but this confirms it even more.
OH and Debbie, you are the perfect example of a woman that ONLY got ahead in her career because of HEAD if you get my drift! In other words girls that work on the street have more class then you have in one of your fake eyelashes. You are truly pathetic!
Posted by: Wild Thing at April 02, 2006 09:24 PM (tj1zH)
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As a chef (a person who gets paid to cook things and must continually suffer white collar retards explaining to me earnestly that they would be a great chef) Feisty I feel your pain, but for some folks it's more of a hobby than a profession.
Posted by: Jake Jacobsen at April 02, 2006 11:02 PM (X2ChO)
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Since Debbie Schlussel keeps asking people to apologize to her I decided to step up just so she could see how it's done:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/04/premature_artic.html#comments
Posted by: Jon Swift at April 03, 2006 03:09 AM (fNQUw)
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Dear Debs,
You are clueles. Completely clueless. You couldn't get a clue if we doused you in clue musk and set you to dancing the clue mating dance in a field of horny clues.
STFU, would ya?
LindaSoG
Posted by: LindaSoG at April 03, 2006 05:27 AM (TET2s)
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To bad the cunt didn't get the Nick Berg treatment...
Posted by: juandos at April 03, 2006 06:14 AM (2bfAx)
Posted by: rightwingprof at April 03, 2006 09:05 AM (hj1Wx)
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I think I misunderstood the Carrol story, thinking she had made those statements _after_ being rescued, and safely outside of Iraq. Usually what a hostage says while having been a hostage seems to me to be suspect; if they confirm the stories once they are safe & sound, that's different.
Posted by: h0mi at April 03, 2006 04:42 PM (zpJBl)
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The whole thing with Jill Carrol seemed strange from the start. The people who "captured" her wanted women prisoners released. We released several women and then we heard nothing from her. Then several weeks later after the "deadline" we heard from her again. This time she was seen alone crying but, she only said that we must do what the people holding her said. She never said what that was!! What did these people want in return for her release?
So she was released. I saw her when she was released and she looked great next to most that are/were being held. She said that her captures never threatened to hit her but, they held guns to her head while she was making those statements? There were no guns anywhere near her in those videos. I have seen others make statements that are captured, like the ones that have their heads cut off, and they have men standing next to them holding guns to their heads.
Today, I saw Jill when she came home to see her family and I wondered when she had time to get red highlights in her hair. I know that most people wouldn't care about that after they were held by brutal animals like those who take Americans in Iraq.
I know a thing or two about the war in Iraq and the people that do this sort of thing and I can't understand why these people would pass up the chance to use this person to get everything they want. Why is it that no one has heard of this group? Why did they just let her go? The only thing that "they" got was the release of some women.
I am glad that Jill is home with her family and safe but, I can't help wondering if maybe Jill made this whole thing up just to make a story or try and free some women because she doesn't like the war. That would be horrible and the worst kind of journalism I have ever seen. Something someone should spend many years in jail for doing.
I really hope I am wrong. I want to believe that this whole thing really was true. I hope that the men and women in the military didn't spend countless hours looking for her for no reason.
Until I have proof I am going to wonder.
Posted by: scooterbell at April 04, 2006 12:31 AM (rZTWE)
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Vinnie, to put it in as few words as I possibly can: you're a prick. You're the kind of limp-wristed dweeb that used to get the hell beat out himself in highschool. Yeah, actually, I do think Debbie could bitch-slap you around the parking lot. I know I could.
Posted by: Tanker at April 05, 2006 08:50 AM (6G6z9)
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