1 ALLLAHU AKBAR!!! THIS is the appropriate time to say that...not when you're chopping people heads off and lauching rockets at innocent people. :]

2 His family was there when he was freed Didn't a member of his family turn him in?

3 Dave: I know, it's confusing about his family. Family turns him then family tells the court he's "cuckoo" to spare him and then family picks him up on the outskirts of town. If I remember correctly, he was turned in by family because of a custody battle over the children. Well, if Afghanistan is so hell bent on exacting Sharia law, then why did they abandon it and allow a battle over custody of the children, yet, enforce it for apostasy? In Sharia law the children always go to the father. In other words, if Sharia is the law of the land, then why was there a custody battle at all? Over here we call that hypocrisy.

4 Oh yeah, and it must have sucked for the judge to have a name like Mohammed Sarwar "Danish" in light of the recent Danish cartoon kerfluffle.

1 >>>>"I am serene. I have full awareness of what I have chosen. If I must die, I will die, Somebody a long time ago did it for all of us.” Can anybody spot the difference between a christian martyr vs a muslim one? A christian martyr DIES for this faith, while a muslim one KILLS for his.

2 His release amounts to nothing more than a death sentence. Unless he is allowed refuge in another nation, he will be killed by the public.

3 Check out this 5 minute CNN tape. The 9-11 Truth Movement has exploded on CNN. Thousands of people are emailing CNN in approval. In CNNÂ’s poll, which asks if you believe the government was involved in 9-11, 67% say yes. Even I am surprised. http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm

4 greg, do you have a link for that CNN poll? I will believe it when I see it.

5 greg, page not found. They pulled it? Means that CNN is probably embarrassed that all the loons suddenly appeared out of the woodwork and is going to kill their rating amongst regular folks.

6 Never mind. I found it.

7 Notice how the poll question is worded for maximum deceptive results. Charlie Sheen and conspiracy theorists claim the government actually COMMITTED the attack. But the poll asks an entirely different question-- whether they believe the government "covered up" the real events. Two different issues, yet the conspiracists try to use the latter to support the former. Even a child can see whats going on here. Conspiracy theorists (and CNN) is guilty of deception.

8 Greg, you do realise that, assuming that only US citizens voted, approximately 0.014% of the population agrees with Charlie Sheen. The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.

9 >>>>The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international. Good point.

10 Still hijacking threads, eh Greg?

11 Belittle the poll all you want. We-sa-comin-ta-gitcha!

12 Graeme, Do you realize that presidential polls have an n=1000 or less. This poll has an n>=50,000

13 Is it possible a factor that may need to be considered is the number of times Greg has voted?

14 >>>>the number of times Greg has voted? lol! vote. delete cookies. vote. delete cookies. repeat process all afternoon.

15 If I vote will that make you happy?

16 Greg, that poll, properly worded to reflect what moonbat Sheen ACTUALLY said, wouldn't reflect those numbers and you know it. Then put the poll on Fox instead of CNN and fuggedaboutit. CNN gets a fraction of the hits the Fox does.

17 How do you get a liberal to leave your property? Pay him for the pizza.

18 Howie, What would make me happy is if you'd watch the CNN feed at: http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm and if Rusty would take off all of these silly filters. My gosh, look how much trouble it is to link to C N N on the Jawa Report. Same for the B B C.

19 Greg: They're probably PixyMisa's filters? the comment script is on blog.mu.nu not jawa. Greg I could write code in under 10 minutes that would click that vote all day, and someone probably did. Every conference I go to, I see to meet some moonbat programmer who thinks we're in the Matrix, or that Roswell space alien technology is being harnessed in the U.S technology race. Re: subject Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper. This guy does realise Afghanistan wasn't Muslim land until ROP raiders came across, and killed everyone in their wake right?

20 Dave: That's the mindset. Anything before their appearance doesn't count. Once they step in, their laws and beliefs supercede everything. Anything before that is discounted as illegitimate and doesn't even merit discussion. The only time even biblical history is brought up it's twisted and bastardized to lay a false foundation for their own beliefs. The final answer to everything is that it's Allah's will. When they get boxed into a corner, that's always the answer. That's the signal that the discussion is over.

21 He should be freed no one should be pursicuted for becoming a christain and by the way they still persicte christains in CHINA and CUBA and probibly NORTH KOREA thats what the ACLU dose here in this country

22 Davec, The 9-11 Truth Movement is going to be part of American lore, at a minimum. It's entirely possible that there will be convictions if this gets out of hand. The right ignores this issue at its own peril. "The worm has turned". To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.

23 >>>>To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing. So explain that. What is the pattern? Are you saying Clinton blew up the Murrah building? And for what purpose. And how does that tie into 9/11. Pattern, please. Or else it's just random synapse firing by conspiracy kooks.

24 Carlos, At the time the government was very worried about militia. Since the bombing, militia have lost strength. The OKC bombing was probably an entrapment psyop. The reports of John Doe being of middle eastern origin is significant. After the first gulf war hundreds of Iraqi military were repatriated to OKC. The goverment has never shown us the security film which would identify John Doe as a coconspirator of McVeigh. The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.

25 Where does Karl Rove's earthquake generator, mounted on the nose of the space shuttle fit in?

26 Oyster, As usual you make an excellent point. I just finished reading a History of India, and I can tell you that the barbarity inflicted on the Hindus and Buddists by Islam is without any compare, except perhaps the slaughter of Jews and Slavs by the Nazis. And even the Nazis could not accomplish what Islam did to India, where upwards of 80 million people were slaughtered. A mountain range in Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush, which means Hindu slaughter, was named after events that took place here. And you are right again, oyster, because Afghanistan was controlled by Hindus and Buddists before the Muslims came. Mahmud of Ghazni led seventeen expeditions into India over a 27 year period that was nothing more than a slaughter. All in the name of Islam.

27 Greg: I will watch the feed when I have the pipes for it. I'll vote to. I reckon there is some detail they may have left out or be "suppressing". Or maybe not I'll decide tomorrow. Now you guys greg is excited let's be happy for him. I suppose as long a Greg is proud of it that's all that matters right Greg.

28 Amen Brotha, Every dog has his day. As things develop, I'll make sure the Jawa community hears about it.

29 Gee, thanks, Greg, you are a true humanitarian.

30 >>>>The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it. greg, sorry, that's too monstrous to accept based just on questionable circumstantial evidence and speculative conclusions.

31 Gee Greg. If this is a matter of such magnitude you owe it to the world to start a blog insted of limiting this dire information to us measley few. Oh, wait .... no one will read it, you say? Well, you've a point there. Better to hijack threads and preach to a captive audience than get rejected by the masses with no hits to your counter, eh?

32 Poll gone looking for video. And yes greg should start a blog. I think it would do OK. Heck I'll even read it. www.blogger.com/start

33 Greg send it to me video site too slow today.

34 Howie, The story has probably been spiked by now. I'm at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton until Thursday presenting my research. When I get back to Austin I'll try and find an archived copy for you. Best, Greg

35 I could see the site you posted. Looks like they have it just too slow. I'll try again tomorrow.

1 If we only had our way.... Nice thought. I could think of a few other countries we ought to lay that out to!

2 Actually, this guy's case has been one of the few coming out of Afghanistan that has a conservative spin on it. Too many big papers who should know better have been running this under headlines like, "Man to be executed for converting to Christianity." By now everyone should know he's on the docket for apostasy. What religion he converted to, or if he didn't convert to any religion and gave up God altogether, has no bearing on the case. Unfortunately, "Man to be executed for renouncing Islam" doesn't sell papers in a Christian country.

3 Might be worth trying to win one of the two wars you are already losing before getting involved in losing another one.

4 i think the attention THIS story is ggetting will lead to the freedom of the man. however i propose he come to united states and study here. He is worth more to me and this country and what it stands for than the bleeding liberals and whiners on the streets, and much more than ALL the lawyers in the ACLU. do you notice that the court in afghanistan realizes that the attention his story is getting and know they will not execute him so they use the "he is crazy" argument, instead of admitting they are wrong! ahahah HA HA AFGHANISTAN!

5 Sonic must be one of those 'Gulf war babies' who believes if a war takes longer than six weeks -- (four weeks of which, is reruns of night-vision camera footage of a precision missile hit on CNN) that America is in a new Vietnam.

6 Unfortunately, we are now looking at the reality of pottery barn rules. Because we have wasted so much in Iraq, we did not focus on Afghanistan. The resurgence of opium trade coupled with tribal warfare makes it impossible for us to exercise any central control outside of Kabul. If we abandon Afghanistan the Taliban will come back in from Pakistan and Waziristan and we'll be dealing with another failed state. Failed states represent a bigger threat to us than anything else because they are the easiest for cash rich terrorists to hang out. Conflict diamonds, drugs, and gold are great sources of infuence when you have corrupt and destitute countries. The real risk (and increasing probability) is that we will be seeing a similarly theocratic state in Iraq.

7 Is it a wasted comment, to point out that Afghanistan was a NATO operation BN? As such, there were many more nations involved than just the U.S, all of those countries are very involved in current peacekeeping operations. Just because CNN keeps an active deathwatch in Iraq, and does not take it's camera's to Afghanistan, doesn't mean the coalition's resolve is any less today, that it was on September 12th 2001.

8 >>>Might be worth trying to win one of the two wars you are already losing before getting involved in losing another one. The only war we're losing is the media war, and that's no surprise considering the MSM is about 98.7% Democrat.

9 This might be a comment wasted on a real moron, but Thesaurus we're trying to make the Iraqi Police, and Military autonomous -- which means we do not patrol the streets for them, guard their Police stations, flush out the bad guys, etc the U.S military will respond to threats, and engage as needed. I'm guessing you're one of the liberal bedwetting, handwringers who talk about how "U.S won't leave Iraq for ten years" out of one side of your mouth, closely followed by "Bad things happen in Iraq every day!! we're defeated!! squark !! defeated I say!" When would you like the Iraqi military to take over peacekeeping, and security operations? should we make sure every police station in Iraq has armed U.S guards so they can't attack it? Apache helicopter in the air to guard the bus stations, Spectre Gunship on the runway in case someone steals some cheese in the market place? This is all part of making Iraqi's responsible for policing, and security of their own country

10 And it's working, they are automonously blowing away two of your guys every day and have been for three years. Still it's not as bad as Gettysburg, why is everyone worrying?

11 Afghanistan...... here we have a president who literally can not venture outside of his own capital. He must be guarded by Americans, he can not trust his own people to guard him. 50% of the country's GNP comes from opium/heroin. The billions that we have spent on reconstruction show little to benefit the ordinary common people. The taliban are stronger now than at any time since they were thrown out and are still providing sanctuary to Osama bin Laden. Gee there is a name from the distant past !! We hardly ever hear his name any more.

12 You know Vinnie actually we wouldn't have to threaten him with all of that. All we would have to do is threaten to remove his American bodyguards. He knows that he wouldn't live longer than a week without them.

13 Sonic, Seeing as you're an expert on warfare, asymmetric and conventional, perhaps you can state an insurgency [country/date] that did not last less than seven years, and did not involve small amounts of soldiers, over a long period of time? perhaps you can also break down and comment on the flaws in U.S counterinsurgency tactics, and tell us the faults?

14 Sonic: Outside of slaughtering Maoris, what war has New Zealand won? Background Noise: I fixed a URL in your "last post ever at the Jawa Report." Prevaricator. John Ryan: 1st comment, I call bullshit. Stop getting your information from Fox News. 2nd comment...eh, I'll buy that. But then we wouldn't get to build our ultra-base on the ashes of Teheran.

15 Couple comments: Vinnie... I appreciate your fixing that link... it shows you are a decent guy. I don't recall saying it was the last post ever... It was the last post I was going to ever leave on the Tom Fox thread. The way you have handled that distinguishes this blog from most every other one in the Right and most every one on the Left. I have also said here and in other venues that Jawa distinguishes itself from RedState and Townhall by engaging people who disagree. Here is a link to RedState that resulted in banning of several people. You show me where the rules were violated. Truth is, they ... like this administration ... are afraid to defend their positions in honest debate. So, they talk to themselves. I have consistently said that we can agree or disagree..but the fact is we're stuck with each other. We inflict more damage upon ourselves than any terrorists could ever hope to. That's the lesson of Antietam and Sharpsburg. 25 years ago Yasuhiro Nakasone said, "The American mongrel race is inferior." He was one third right. We are mongrels. But we call that diversity. In biology it's called "hybrid vigor," and that is what makes us strong. This is your playground and I know that first amendment issues are not in play here ... so you can decide what you like.. but I believe we need to cherish, celebrate, and cultivate that diversity so we can meet the challenges that face us going forward. I could post only on Dailykos where people are more likely to agree with me, and you could post only on RedState where they will agree with you. That's fine if all you want is to make everyone feel good by having their inner child validated, but that doesn't move the ball downfield. I know what I believe. I know why I believe it. Here's something that will surprise you: I'm willing to be wrong. But you have to bring something to the table to earn the right to that discussion. Invective and bigotry don't persuade me..that's why the jesusland jokers are dead to me. Let me be clear, I'm not accusing you of either ... and frankly if someone wants to mock me... have at it, I've been called worse by better. Like Whittington, I've got thicker skin than George. If you're good, I've got a funny story of how I got kick/banned from #bestiality back in the days when IRC was a wild and wooley place. === davec ... I am not sure about your comment... Afghanistan as a NATO operation? In addition to working with the northen alliance, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, New Zealand, Italy, and Germany provided support to us as well. Moreover, we had the endorsement of Iran (the first Islamic country to endorse our action), the Organization of Islamic Countries (representing all the Islamic nations of the world), Cuba, Libya, Russia and China. We also had the backing of the UN Security council with regards to our central demands that the Taliban hand over the perpetrators and close all terrorist bases. That invasion was firmly based in international law. It was consistent with policies and positions of the United States going back to the presidency of Thomas Jefferson. No one...not even Helen Thomas... argues that the US had a legitimate right to invade Afghanistan. I can quote Quakers who endorsed it in print in leading Quaker journals. Please explain your point ..because you are not being clear about it at all.

16 Sorry, I misinterpreted this: In my final post on Jawa at followed by the link to the post as saying you weren't going to comment anymore. Oh well, welcome to the club of "NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT!!!!!" It's a blogger's curse, I tellya.

17 davec said: perhaps you can state an insurgency that did not last less than seven years, and did not involve small amounts of soldiers, over a long period of time? perhaps you can also break down and comment on the flaws in U.S counterinsurgency tactics, and tell us the faults? I'll take the second question first: The Salvador Option...huge mistake. And it's getting worse. Death squads are not a good way to spread democracy. The first question...I think you meant "insurgency that did not last MORE than seven years" right? I'm also assuming you want to only count successful insurgencies too, right? If that is what you were getting at ... I would suggest the Sandinista overthrow of Somoza in Nicaragua would qualify by a few months. Castro's overthrow of Batista only took 3 years. I'm not sure what is magical about the 7 years number, but I would point out that long drawn out insurgencies on foreign soil far from home usually prevail...so long insurgencies are not a good thing as far as our occupation of Iraq is concerned.

18 gee Vinnie ...Sorry if that got your hopes up I'll try to be more precise in the future...

19 I'm with you Vinnie. This isn't what we went to Afghanistan for. If they insist on being neanderthals, then we should leave.

20 I still can't figure out how pissing one's pants, wringing one's hands, crying like a baby, and running away to hide under the bed is any sort of winning strategy, but damn if the libtards don't believe in it. I just hope that when there is open war against muslims in the streets of America, the muslims don't hang all the libtards before I get a few.

21 Now back to the topic: The best way to handle this is for Bush to grow some nuts and tell them to knock this shit off if they don't want the B-52's to come back. Muslims are animals. Nothing more, nothing less.

22 The Philippino citizenry hate our guts? Wow, all of the Philippinos I ran into sure fooled me good.

23 A good question to contemplate is WHY we had the endorsement of Iran. Was it because of their strong principles? Or because the Taliban too closely and openly displayed the same style of government which might have soon been seen as comparable to Iran? Or because factions in Iran's government were harboring or planned to harbor Taliban or al Qaeda officials and this would put them in a position to be perceived as "good guys"? Or was it simply another example of "taqqiya"? Or ...

24 Oyster, I think that is a good question. There is no question that Iran uses terrorists as proxies. However, at the time of that attack, internal Iranian politics was undergoing a power struggle for direction. The overwhelming majority of Iranians are disillusioned with the fruits of Khomeini's revolution. The average Iranian loves the US. Most of Iran's current population was born after the revolution. So it is not surprising they have a different view of the US...especially since they grew up under the strict theocratic rule of the mullahs. This was abundantly clear to everyone involved in the aid relief to Bam... and that was after the SoTU where Bush placed them in the "axis of evil"... I'm sure some saw it as an opportunity to thaw the ice a bit with the US. But that was not the only reason. There was no love lost between Iran and the Taliban. First off, Iran is Shi'ite. Taliban is Sunni. However their relations were in the crapper for more concrete reasons. In 1998, Taliban soldiers seized the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif. They then stormed the Iranian consulate in the city and killed eight diplomats and an Iranian journalist. They also took dozens of hostages. Iran responded by deploying troops along their common border. For some weeks it appeared the two sides would go to war. UN mediation defused the situation and all the hostages were eventually released. However, Iran never established diplomatic relations with the Taliban. They made a precondition for that was the killers had to be brought to justice. In spite of the governmental situation, tribal contacts remained intact. I'm sure the smuggling of Afghani opium through Iran to Europe was a major contributing factor in maintaining local cooperation even to the present.

25 I did this post with tongue firmly in cheek. Work with me here, Aurelius.

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28 Your examples are closer to a coup, than the sort of insurgency I was comparing, which would be foreign military in control: like in Palestine, Malay, Cyprus and Brunei where the controlling force has to quell rebel/guerilla forces. re: "The Salvador Option" perhaps you should go to wikipedia and fill it out a little, it seems they barely have an article: "The 'Salvador Option' was a secret military proposal that Newsweek originally reported on January 8th, 2005. The magazine claims to have received its information from military insiders speaking on conditions of anonymity. The program was supposed to have been based on the Reagan administration's still classified support for El Salvador's right wing forces' fight against left wing guerrilas in the 1980's. These right wing forces are alleged to have included so called 'death squads'." Might also be worthy to note Newsweek also claimed the U.S military were flushing the Quran from an "anonymous" source too

29 To quote Newsweek is not to quote a valid source. Good point, dave!

30 Sonic's problem is that of every other liberal; no balls. And to make it worse, he's not just outdone by real Men, but every woman in the military is a better Man than he. He cannot contribute in any meaningful way to his society, so he feels he must denigrate his betters. He is a worthless parasite, and he and his kind should be exterminated as such.

1 So, the face-saving way out for the Afghan government here is to assert that "if you become a Christian, you must be crazy." Oooookay!

2 Democracy has been rendered unpalatable by our misleader who hi-jacked the election process and demonstrated to the world what a fragile system democracy is that it can be bought by a green, tyrannical wannabe. His approach to spreading Democracy around the world is like trying to get a dog to come to you by beating it! He shirks from dealing with Afghanistan over this poor christian hostage citing Afghanistan's sovereignity! We need sensible leadership that will work hard day and night trying to figure a way out of this mess even if it means missing a photo-op, golf game, 5-week war-time vacations, playing guitar with the old folks during hurricanes, or autistic basketball. http://votetoimpeach.org The world is my oyster! Round 'em up and rope 'em off!

3 I have a question. My understanding is that Afghan law allows freedom of religion, but not freedom of converstion (?!), so basically you're stuck in whatever religion you happen to be born into. This man faces a possible death sentence for converting from Isam to Christianity, but what if a Christian converts to Islam? This in fact happened with an American currently in an Afghan jail (I forget his name, he was a journalist accussed of freelance torture), but I don't see anyone trying to bring HIM to court.

4 Just another example of these fanatics thinking the stupidity of the west will accept a lame and faulty excuse as this. Odd that they didn't think he was too crazy to charge him and then request the death penalty UNTIL they found that the eyes of the world were upon them. Even if they do indeed release Mr. Rahman we should not let up because they'll try it again.

5 It always seems to bring us back to the same sticking point -- that majority Islamic nations are not ready, nor willing to accept Western style democracy. Despite having moderate leadership, the Afghani citizens still expect, and insist that Islamic Jurisprudence prevails over democracy. They still want to beat their wives with a stick, and have them wear the burka, and expect them to be sub-servant. Islam has no prevailing body to guide the majority of the religion, and instead has thousands of faceted religious leaders, most of which are radicalized "Firebrand" clerics, who only preside over a small percentage of Muslims. Without a single religious authority [unfortunately like the Taliban] to interpret, and lead the masses they all fall back to the last authority's rule [the Taliban] and will not change until another Islamic authority emerges to guide [/force] them to.

6 To permit ANY departures from Islam is to pop the balloon. Like the fall of the Berlin wall, or the failure of a dam, what seems minor is in fact a breach. The foundation has been undermined: all may be swept away.

7 Dave, many of the adults are a lost cause. But the kids in Iraq, in particular, will grow into it and will likely reject the hateful ways of some of the elder's Imams. Even in Iraq this is going to take a couple generations.

8 Oyster: perhaps the U.S should export some of our University professors to Iraqi, they seem experts in indoctrinating young adults in theories, and points-of-view that attack the way they have been raised and educated by their parents!

9 Right after we send in all the menopausal women to wipe out the insurgency. Give us 2 - 3 days ... tops. We don't take prisoners.

10 HA HA Islam. next we'll deal with China's oppression of Christians as well.

11 "Doctors must examine him," he said. "If he is mentally unfit, definitely Islam has no claim to punish him. He must be forgiven. The case must be dropped." Wow. So you need to be fully aware that you deserve death if you decide to quit Islam? Those people ARE crazy. - Max

12 Our President is establishing democracy not freedom. This is a minor setback. With less than 15,000 tropps in Country we have no clout. These attacks on our Commander-in-Chief during a time of War only enable the enemy. Let the moonbats attack our President..my support in undiminished.

13 Dream on DrewE! A leader who seeks soley his own council is a dangerous man! Object lesson in progress!

14 You keep posting that Thesaurus. How do you explan Mr. Bush talking to Mr. Rumsfield, or Mr. Cheny, or Ms. Rice? Are they all the same person? From what you write they have to be. Do you have any other lines? Perhaps, do not look into the sun, or you will grow hair on your palms if you keep doing that. How about if you play with fire, you might get burned.

15 HeÒs impressed by how many people are keen to attend public talks and debates at the moment.

16 You can read the first part of how I met NE here.

1 Like a thief who knows it's wrong and subconsciously wants to get caught, so the Father-in-law was providing punishment for his step-daughters future breeding of little suicide bombers. Such are the ways and means of a sick, depraved society based on Islam. Did we really expect any different?

2 Phsyclops: Spoofing Oyster won't fly here.

3 Just trying to teach a lesson in Blog etiquette and respect!

4 OK. So make your point using said etiquette and respect.

5 "Kevin Sites"? NEVER

6 Yes Rusty may have my head. I judged that this story was worth overlooking the author. It's about Gulsoma not him. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day as IM says.

7 To Whom it may corncern: Save your idle disgruntlement for the terrorists! Rather they than me to go away!

8 To Whom it may corncern: Save your idle disgruntlement for the terrorists! Rather they than me to go away!

9 Oh! No! I've been exposed by Oyster! Drat! Now I've got to dig through my wardrobe to find a different cloak!

10 Hailus, are you or are you not the same person who posts on Kevin Sites' Yahoo blog "Hotzone" as psychl0ps? You post your email here as psychl0ps@yahoo.com. And I know that when posting at Kevin's blog one's yahoo email username is automatically signed as the commenter. I ask because the comments there are pretty outrageous and belie your attitude here. And I quote: "There was no need to capture Saddam. All we have to do is nuke'm in the bud! Wherever there is a threat building up just blow the crap out of it! No muss no fuss and a lot cheaper and with a lot less American causualities. Oh, how could I forget? It's the oil ......" "Bush has declared war on the poor and the old! His inherent contempt for the underprivileged is apparent in his reverse Robin Hood policies of robbing from the poor to feed the rich! www.votetoimpeach.org" "Thanks to John Wayne mentality, the U.S. has demonstrated to the world what a ridiculous notion democracy is! That it can be bought ( hi-jacked ) by maniacal tyrannical wannabes. Who wants it now!? Democracy for sale! Discount prices! Dirt Cheap! Are there no buyers out there? I suspect not! Now we can get back to the business of communism where the rich don't get richer and the poor poorer, where health care concerns are a thing of the past and where capitalism does not run rampant, destroying our planet in the process! Let's face it!" If this is not you then you have hijacked someone else's email address claiming it as your own, which is just as bad. Now - would you like to further discuss "Blog etiquette and respect"?

11 Maybe she should tell the authorities, she found a Bible and prayer beads in her father-in-laws draw, then they'll spring into action with an apostate death sentence? How the laws of their culture works, is unfathomable.

12 Unfortunately her story is not that uncommon. Hers was an extreme case, but the abuse is too often condoned, ignored and sometimes sanctioned.

13 Oyster: Save your busy-body digging and meddling for the enemy. Those with murder on their minds... Oh! and thanks for re-iterating some of my views, it saved me the trouble of copying and pasting. Idle mind busy-bodies like you can be handy after all!

14 Don't mention it. I'm happy to help.

15 Anyone want to help get the word out to impeach the reckless, clandestine wannabe chump? My way or the highway! http://votetoimpeach.org There are methods that work better ( actually work )that require more thoughtful planning and intelligence. Too much at stake to permit continued obstinancy and grade school black and white perceptions. Turn the reins over to a more competent leader. Someone who will work night and day to figure a way out of this mess, even if he/she must miss a photo-op, speech, golf, 5-week vacation, or strumming guitar with the old folks!

16 There are methods that work better ( actually work )that require more thoughtful planning and intelligence. Damn, so you're completely stumped from the get go?

17 I feel sorry for that young girl. I have read things like that happen every day in the Sudan. By the way, can someone please get rid of Hailus. It appears he is insane.

18 Oyster, I believe you have uncovered a two-faced little hypocrit. Ha ha ha!

19 Yeah, that was worthy of a 20+ points: uncovering a 'wolf' in sheep's clothing, with a bonus for eviscerating him with his own posts. Excellent.

20 And these are the people that liberals have chosen to stand with, against all that is decent and good.

21 Just when I was ready to leave this sorry web-site I get drawn back into the fray! The world is my oyster! Whoever can track Hailus or psychl0ps through cyberspace gets a free pissed on copy of the Quaran! Come on! It will be lots of fun and won't be a waste of your time! Your friends will be amazed!

22 It seems that Halius wants what is right but many of his methods are wrong. He is more like Bush than he knows. You cannot separate the means from the end. They are inseparable.

1 You will be brought into courts to testify ...

2 why dont you hear Amnesty Internation and A.N.S.W.E.R and the A.C.L.U out rage over this? THIS SHOULD be front page and top news

3 Not to crazy over the AFA's approach - focuses on making it a religious issue rather than concentrate on incorporating it into an argument for the fundamental principals of freedom.

4 Hondo, that's why I wrote my own letter.

5 Our fearless leader does not want to get involved, citing the sovereignty of Afghanistan. What a loser! http://votetoimpeach.org The World is my oyster! Round 'em up and rope 'em off!

1 Shortly afterward I see news that these men were Murdered and their bodies dumped along the road accounding to Taliban "spokesman" terrorist Qari Mohammed Yousef. He speaks with impunity, he knows he can qualify as Yale University material after.

2 Freedom fighters strike again! There is no illusion who or what these people are. Elements of Liberals and the left have clearly telegraphed that what's primarily (and solely) important to them is their own personal domestic agenda - everything else is just BS.

3 Nice way to win their hearts and minds. Of course, these paleotards don't know any other method than violence, which is why liberals adore them so.

4 The Taleban spokesman said the four foreigners had been shot dead. "We will kill any one who is helping the Americans," Send this man to Yale!

5 Why, why? This is no acceptable! Those peple came over to support your Afghanistan and support the democracy by doing the right things for the people. I still can't understand why Taliban does these things. Aren't they muslims?

6 Why, why? This is no acceptable! Those peple came over to support your Afghanistan and support the democracy by doing the right things for the people. I still can't understand why Taliban does these things. Aren't they muslims?

7 Yes, they are Muslims. Hence the violence.

8 you make misstake... those are muslim albanians and they came there to help afghan people... and they were killed... why... do you know what is HUMANITY... I dont think so

9 Doesn't make sense does it PTBAlbanian?

10 First I would like to say that it is so wrong what the Taliban is doing, killing inocent people no matter what nationality are they. This is not the way Islam teach us, killing inocent people. Those Albanians were there to help Afgan people, not to hurt anyone, and you killed them. Shame on you, Taliban. May Allah bless those inocent people that you have killed.

11 Shame, shame , shame. You are killing inocent people, you are killing Muslim people. Those Albanians were Muslims. Allah will punish you

12 Mohammed : What about the German gentleman who was also murdered?

13 No Howie, the fourth person killed is also an albanian with german citizenship, all 4 of them are ethnic albanians from Macedonia. we are muslims,but not the way they are. we are from Europe.

14 I see.