September 25, 2005
H5N1 what I have learned this week
The story that seemed to kind of hang under the radar this week is the
Bird Flu has reached Indonesia and bird culls are taking place there. I decided to see just what I could find out about H5N1 and flu vaccines and treatments in general. H5N1 is expected to follow the same path other flu does. Starting in chickens and ducks and migrating to swine and humans although direct jumps to humans are possible. I was able to find no one saying this is all a bunch of hooey. So while IÂ’m not panicked and donÂ’t think anyone else should there are a few issues that need attention here.
IÂ’ve collected a big pile of links and will post them below the break so you too can be informed and make your own judgements. Because when you rely on the government or the drug companies, Well you get the idea. Howie also has his commentary below.
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Perhaps the fact that the US doesn't have enough bird flu vaccine is proof of some evil Chimpy McHallibacon/Global Jooish Conspiracy™! Since poor people are barred from medical care by armed Nazi's keeping them from seeing doctors, and only the richest of the rich, and registered Republicans to boot, can afford health care, it's only natural that this is a plan to kill all the black/poor/gay/bi/transgenered people that the CIA weather control machine-created hurricanes failed to take care of. I wonder if the bird flu was created by Joooos to kill the aliens that Minister Farrakan of the Religion of Peace™ says are here to save people who give him money?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at September 25, 2005 08:38 PM (0yYS2)
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Do you think it would help any to insulate the vaccine makers from class-action litigation, or provide some other safe harbor that would permit then not to have to factor in litigation costs to their manufacturing estimates?
Posted by: Bill Quick at September 26, 2005 02:29 AM (IjtGq)
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I check this link everyday www.recombinomics.com/News/0924052/H5N1_Jakarta_Zoo_12.html and can only wonder why this isnt in the news like SARS was. Should H5N1 go to phase 6 it will be a nightmare.
Posted by: Cami at September 26, 2005 07:48 AM (oEKp+)
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Yall will have to forgive me I'm not only a computer geek I'm a science geek too.
The more I look at this the more interesting it gets.
We have a kind of catch 22 going on here with current production techniques.
Produce all you need and if the flu season is mild you loose your ass and commit a type of capitalist suicide.
Dont produce enough and you have a big flu season you get a capitalist DOHH!!! I could really sell a ton of this stuff if I only had more.
So therefore the bottleneck is the current production technology. No one in in the west ever dreamed of producing smallpox virus at the scale the Russians achieved for their boi-warfare program. But after the iron curtain fell there it was.
So I being a big fat geek think it's not only possible but probable there is a better way. Once this is achieved where vaccine production cam be ramped up on demand it should be sustainable. New flu virus comes along all the time. So the basic demand will always be there. Then when a bad one comes along we could just make more quickly. Sort of an apple to oranges I know but you never know till you try.
No one is better at the just in time better faster cheaper that the good old USA this is a problem tailor made for us and maybe some Russian help.
If no I should say when flu virus production advances past the current methods it will be no sweat. Until then I feel we should at least maintain some domestic production using the current methods so as not to be at the mercy of foreign suppliers. If you want somthing done right many times you have to do it yourself.
I think private industry and gov research can and will solve this problem in a sustainable capitalist fashion in the next 20 years or so possibly faster. Cpaitalist may not get rich like with Viagra but there is a public braggin right here as well as a sustainable demand for a good product. Goevernments can and are doing what they can but the key is innovation and the demand, not more government support and shortages.
Posted by: Howie at September 26, 2005 08:26 AM (D3+20)
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September 13, 2005
Death Sentence for Aussie Embassy Bombing
It's about time is all I can say. I've seen some terrorists get like 3 days per victim.
Looks like Iwan Darmawan will get his just deserts. But wait appeal in progress. It's also worth while to note that many local Indonesians were killed in this bombing. I can't help but wonder what the sentence would have been if the vast majority would have been Aussies.
"Your punishment will be worse than mine," Darmawan shouted as he was being led to a prison van.
I doubt that Mr. Darmawan, death right back at you sir. Inthebullpen has more.
Rois(aka Mr. Darmawan) said he would be happy to die. He was defiant before the verdict, saying that the bombing could be justified as defending Islam
Ok so we're all happy, good deal.
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How long will it be before he is exicuted i mean will they do the same as they did with the infamous ROBERT ALTON HARRIS? i mean they dragged that out for so long it was pathetic and the bleedinghearts will be out protesting against the exicution and lighting their candles for him as well
Posted by: sandpiper at September 13, 2005 08:27 PM (g0rz7)
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Works out well, doesn't it? The nuts want to die for their religion, and we want to help them do it. Almost Pattonesque--"You don't win a war by dying for your country! You win by letting the other son of a bitch die for his country!"
Posted by: See-Dubya at September 14, 2005 02:02 AM (jV2ep)
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